In your judgment are Ahmaud Arbery killers guilty or innocent of his death?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Ahmaud Arbery was jogging through a neighborhood, when 3 men suspected him up to no good, so they got in their truck and chased him down to confront him.

One of the men had a shotgun in his hand, when Ahmaud closed the distance between him and the would be shooter, Ahmaud reached for his gun and they both began to tussle for the weapon.

The would be shooter out muscled Ahmaud Arbery for the possession of the gun, and shot and killed him during the scuffle.

*Graphic footage of the shooting and death of Ahmaud Arbery

Innocent.

Guilty.

Other.

[Naydyonov]

There is more context as to why they chased after him. Basically, someone had already trespassed (maybe also stole something, don't recall) and Admaud Arbery fit the description.
In their attempt to do a citizen's arrest, they thoroughly fucked up.
A situation was created in which both sides had cause for self-defense: Arbery because he was chased by 3 guys with guns, the 3 guys because Arbery reached for the gun.
I can't say how the law would view this, but from a social perspective, I think they are guilty, but not entirely. Maybe 90% their guilt, 10% Arbery (for reaching for the gun).

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Arbery logically has every right to think these men might kill them at any moment.

If someone is chasing you in a truck and continues to chase you after you evaded them once then logically you're going to think they are going to kill you if you see them holding a gun.

Arbery had no choice but to try to take away their gun because he could've been shot at any moment.

[Naydyonov]

Well, by going for the gun, he ensured physical action would be taken. The best bet for him would be for the police to arrive. I don't know if they informed him of why they were chasing him. I will assume they didn't, in which case making an escape would still be the best option. Running off the road would have been a good move, as these guys were in their truck.
Not saying he's at fault, just that there may have been better options for him.
Anyone attempting a citizen's arrest should make it clear why they are pursuing the person so that in case of confusion, there isn't a violent confrontation between two non-criminal sides.

[Texaskid1]

Imagine if those guys would of picked up the phone called the police and just let the cops do their thing.

They would not be facing a lenghty prison sentance.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Right.

[t-8900]

He was trying to flee so it was cold blooded murder, nothing more.

[BillyBalls]

It appears they are guilty however not many people are paying attention to this trial due to the Rittenhouse trial

[WhiteBoyChill]

Georgia does allow for citizens arrests. Innocent. He fit the description of a crime that occured nearby and was stupid enough to try grabbing a gun and thinking he could overpower them.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

They didn't see him committing a crime though.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Oh well if that’s the case than they should’ve minded their own business and been charged with something else. But still clearly self defense

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Self defense isn't applicable if you start the fight or altercation.

If you pull out a gun or knife at a person being very close to them and that person ends up killing you in that moment then it's he or she is innocent of your death.

[WhiteBoyChill]

They were just chilling though. They weren’t threatening the guy

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

The video above is the second encounter, Ahmaud evaded them once and they continue to follow him.

One got out the truck with a loaded gun, to me that's aggressive behavior.

[007kingifrit]

they didn't intend to shoot him and didn't plan to. it was only after he grabbed the gun that they did

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

There's no way to know that. If someone is chasing you with a gun drawn then logically you are going to think they might shoot you at any moment thus your instinct is going to kill in to defend yourself.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

*defend yourself

[007kingifrit]

that's true. but they didn't intend to shoot him either. so they're in the same boat

they weren't pointing the gun at him i don't think (haven't watched the video in a long time)

and all they said to him was stop right?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

They started the confrontation with a gun drawn, self defense doesn't apply on their behalf.

[007kingifrit]

stopping someone to question them isn't really a confrontation though

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

With a gun drawn is.

[Soleil8000]

Looks like most crimes are either committed by or because of a transgender

[Anonymous]

Come on he wasn't jogging lol
Those men will be charged.

[Pterodon]

Guilty to me. This was nothing but a lynching

[exitseven]

they did it.