What do you think of the three men being found guilty in the Ahmaud Arbery case?

[Texaskid1]

Interesting case. I bet these three men are now wondering if it was a good idea to try to make a "citizen's arrest". They should of picked up the phone and dialed 911 and let the cops handle it. From what I heard they thought he had robbed them at some time in the past. Maybe he did - maybe he didn't. Regardless, this goes to show that you should never play the white knight.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Citizen's arrest doesn't equal chasing the m*f*ker down and shooting him dead for petty theft, execution-style! As satisfying as it may be to do. To call what they did "citizen's arrest" is cynical, and a threat to all who might have to do it legitimately. Just another buzzword, being thrown around as a psy-op, to fuel more of the insanity we are seeing in Wisconsin. The Globalist demons don't want us united against them to defend what's left of our independence. It destroys their delusional bids for godhood. They know we teeter on the brink of another civil war.

They'll do anything to push us over the edge, knowing we'll be too weak to resist them if we're too busy killing each other off. And that bloodbath seems more and more like a certainty.

The whole Mark Rufallo nonsense of calling Rosenbaum "JoJo" just proves the elites are mostly pedos. It's all about the adrenochrome. And they have to keep us distracted with this race BS... so we will ignore Gislaine Maxwell's trial. What She-Epstein knows, could send celebrity heads rolling down the street! The Hulk could end up like Louis XVII!

The sleeping giant needs to wake up, and go Ghost Rider on Hollywood, Antifa, etc. They love the Devil so much, time to arrange a date!
"You... GUILTY!!!"

[lightbulb27]

have not watched the trial, only seen parts of the video, nor jury instructions.
I understand the law permitted citizen arrest... since repealed.

First blush... thought the shooter was guilty as he created the scenario, could have stayed in car, backed off, etc.. and the other two... did not kill him, so not guilty.

Watching video again, it's a fine line. Watch the shooter backing up and arbery punching him. This is another case not all unlike Trevon Martin. I thoguht Trevon killer should have gone to jail.

see his behavior in 2017... he managed this ok, but has a short fuse.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1v7o_6uI9R0

[ChefPapiChulo]

stupid racist fuck

[lightbulb27]

We’ve not agreed on anything as yet. It’s not race. I supported Trayvon. Did you lose someone to gun violence?

[Anonymous]

Georgia repealed their citizens arrest law because of these idiots. It’s an enormous risk to apprehend someone yourself with a firearm……especially for the grievous crime of trespassing in a vacant property. It’s no longer self-defense when you initiate the confrontation with a gun. I’m sure Arbery was frightened and reacted the way he did. The whole thing evoked images of the past in the Deep South. It was a tragedy that didn’t need to happen.

[dustybiker]

Thank goodness there is some justice in this world.

[JohnK123]

Only a little bit sadly

[FakeName123]

I think the defendant they had was absolutely horrible. Even worse than the persecutor in the Rittenhouse case.

I also disagree with the verdict. To me it was involuntary homicide.

Why? Because the guys may have been morons, may have played help-sheriff, may be racist. But at the end of the day the video footage clearly shows that Arbery runs around the car to try to tackle the gun from the shotgun wielder - who then acts in self-defense. Someone grabbing your gun - no matter how much of a prick you are - is a direct threat. End of the story.

But wait i hear you say. If you say it is self-defense, why involuntary homicide? Because these guys were morons and forced a situation like this to occur. It wasn't like Rittenhouse being at the wrong place and wrong time, but they did escalate the situation themselves.

[lightbulb27]

Moho

[LikeALog]

In general, citizens arrest is not something to do without witnesses to a crime. All you can do is hold the person until the LEO arrives. If the LEOs doesn't arrest the person or the DA doesn't prosecute, you can be sued by that individual.

As a citizen, depending on the state you live in, deadly force is only allowed in self defense and to protect others from being harmed. I am unaware of any state that condones using deadly force on a fleeing suspect.

From what I know about the case, it was a correct verdict.

[MuddyMole]

I'd say they didn't have a leg to stand on.
It's actually pretty much the same as the Rittenhouse case though - they turned up with a gun, trying to do the police's job, and when the situation got out of hand (as could easily have been predicted) they shot someone in self-defence. As the prosecutor said: "You can't create the situation and then go 'I was defending myself'".
Aside from the verdict, the big difference is that in Georgia, the law was changed to try and stop it happening again, and send out the message that vigilante justice is not acceptable - the most important thing that should have happened in Wisconsin, but hasn't.

[Avicenna]

Not the same as in the Rittenhouse case at all, and you've completely mischaracterized what Rittenhouse did (for starters, police do not generally guard businesses unless they're moonlighting off-duty as security officers).

[globetrotter22]

There is evidence that arberry might of burglarized that home that was under construction (he did trespass several times). However their decision to try a citizens arrest with pickup trucks and shotguns was incredibly asinine. They did NOT witness arberry actively engaging in a crime. At best they could of just walked up to him with no (visible) guns and asked him what he was doing calmly. But they went full on vigilante which was asinine.

So this is the RIGHT verdict. Justice served. They got a fair trial too (unlike Chauvin who I think while guilty was overcharged).

However notice how the prosecution did not EVER bring up racism during the case. Never. And yet the mass media spins this shit nonstop. Now why is that?

[anylolone]

They didn't thought he robbed, it's burglary. And they knew he shoplifted in the area, and they called 911.
And it was 2 guys attempting a citizens' arrest, not 3, the third was just filming in case something happened.

No idea why the third was convicted of anything, and no idea why malicious homicide, and even weirder, for just travis.

But yeah, they shouldn't have gone with the objective of a citizens' arrest if they suspected no felony that day. They could still just follow the dude to report on his whereabouts.

[ZackBan]

Honestly citizens arrest is dumb. When people resist arrest from cops cops can use deadly force but citizens can't.
Aubrey resisted them because he had no reason not to and they poped him guess they deserve the verdict.
Not saying he was innocent that we don't really know but the law exists so people don't go around killing eachother on a whim

[goaded]

He was jogging, what was he supposed to have stolen from a building site? A screw?

Citizen's arrest isn't necessarily a bad thing; the seventh Peelian Principle is:
"To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, ***the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.***"

Of course, the police aren't allowed to kill people who aren't threatening them (or someone else) with deadly force.

If Arbrey had taken a gun off one of them ***and pointed it at them***, they might have had a self-defence argument. (Which suddenly makes me wonder about the other case; can you walk up to someone and shoot them because you say you were afraid they might take your gun and shoot you with it?)

[ZackBan]

From what I remember he was jogging in boots. Not exactly a workout attire which does raise suspicions plus there had been neighborhood robberies in the weeks leading up to the event so like I said his innocence is not confirmed.

As for the citizens arrest I'm with you it's not a bad thing but it has a major flow which is what happens when someone resists it but still is unarmed.
Personally I would have let him go their civic duty was complete without actually shooting him

[goaded]

No. He was jogging in running shoes. The boots were a lie put about by the right-wing. On here, by a monster who put up a picture of a child with a machete through their head (which didn't result in a ban, and took some time to get removed). Here's a video from the place he supposedly robbed.

https://youtu.be/rg8CaecNJI8

Armaud Arbery, a man taking a jog, and gunned down needs justice. What do you think of the situation? ↗

[bamesjond0069]

You cannot citizen arrest someone because they may have committed a crime. That is for detectives to collect evidence and make a determination. Citizens arrest is if your neighbor is on vacation and you see a man climbing out of a broken window of their house with their jewelry and you tackle him because you're standing right there. It gives you the right to detain or use force on someone actively and certainly in the process of committing a crime.

Not the right to play detective and go searching for clues and put together a case. If you're not witness to a crime you cannot citizens arrest.

These 3 men were in the wrong and the victim had every right to self defense, unfortunately his self defense failed but the justice system worked in this instance.

[loves2learn]

The only thing Aubery was guilty of was being black while jogging through a white area of town. Those men men were not trying to make a citizens arrest or be white knights. They were being hateful racists.

[loves2learn]

All that to say I wish they had gotten harsher sentences.

[Jersey2]

They haven’t actually been sentenced yet

[loves2learn]

My bad lol

[Prettygurl12]

It was the correct verdict. I'm glad that Georgia didn't let them get away with it.

[BillyBalls]

Two cases.
Two proper verdicts!!!

[Prettygurl12]

@BillyBalls Yes! I'm very pleased with the justice system this week.

[JohnK123]

Yeah because you are white

[joesheks]

@JohnK123 as if blacks could have developed a better Justice system —- just look at how they’ve handled South Africa since 1994

[JohnK123]

@joesheks because of the slave trade did u learn nothing in high school history

[Exterminatore]

@pretty

It wasn’t Georgia that did anything. It was the prosecutor who from what I know of the trial made the right call, and the jury who made the right call.

[Exterminatore]

@John.

The Slave trade ended way before 1994. That’s a very uneducated statement.

[JohnK123]

@Exterminatore the effects were devastating long term. Guess who introduced guns into Africa in exchange for slaves: Europeans. That’s why Africa is what it is today full of violence and corruption I can’t believe Ik more than adults holy

[Exterminatore]

@曹鹏joe

I’m not sure what you mean? Stealing land from white people just for being white and murdering white people just for being white isn’t racist. Everyone knows black people could never ever be racist.

South Africa is a great example of what happens when you let idiots run things.

Soon America will be no different. I’d hope by now after everything that’s been done under the Biden administration, and the riots last summer what I’m about to say is crystal clear. With woke ideology and CRT there will soon be an ethnic cleaning of whites. When you teach people that whites are automatically racist upon birth and automatically oppress all other races by their existence and people believe what you are teaching you are headed in the direction of genocide and mass murder. That includes teaching that all white people are subconsciously racist due to living in a system of systematic racism. Yeah, sounds far fetched and crazy I know. This is how things started in Nazi Germany, and South Africa is a great perspective model for what’s coming if this nonsense isn’t suppressed.

[Exterminatore]

@john

No dude. Slaves were no longer allowed to be imported to America after 1808. They were freed on paper in 1864 with the emancipation proclamation and effectively freed with the end of the Civil War in 1865.

Yes, European powers introduced guns to Africa. So what?

Africa is what it is today because it’s poor and often poorly run by warlords and dictators depending on where we’re talking about. As the continent is divided into countries most of them are not farmable in a way to adequately feed the majority of the people on the continent. Can’t grow wheat in most places there. Additionally much of it in the north is sand. Nothing but desert. In the center it is mostly jungle. Additionally when they ousted many European powers form there they ousted stability right along with it.

This does not fit your statement about guns destabilizing it. People there like everywhere have been killing each other since the dawn of time. Guns only made the process more efficient. It wasn’t until 94 the ruling class of Dutch in South Africa were basically deposed. Ethiopians kicked Italy out of Ethiopia in the Early 1900’s, and the French were kicked out of North Africa in 1962. The Brits were forced out of most places by 1900.

[JohnK123]

@Exterminatore did u take AP European History in high school?

[Exterminatore]

I took AP classes all Social Studies classes why?

[JohnK123]

@Exterminatore because that’s what they taught european history

[Exterminatore]

@john

What do you mean that’s what they taught? Can you specify? What I said or what you said?

[JohnK123]

@Exterminatore they taught that the introduction of Europeans killed their society because each tribe turned on one another and divided the continent which would make Africa Africa Today

[Slingblade1126]

@JohnK123 exactly how has the justice system failed you this week? I can think of over 50 people in my state it failed because of a virtue signaling prosecutor that let a violent repeat offender walk solely 'cause he was black. You are not a victim. You actually contribute to the victimization of others.

[JohnK123]

@Slingblade1126 by letting armed people who shot and murdered people walk free

[Slingblade1126]

@JohnK123 what murder walked free?

[JohnK123]

@Slingblade1126 you know who

[Exterminatore]

@john

I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that it’s not a matter of you being mistaken or not paying attention, but rather that they did in fact teach that.

Let me be the first to tell you that is a steaming pile of horse crap. You must understand there is a rabid agenda to teach white people are evil and everything the do is evil and all other races, most especially blacks are good and perfect and just and pure who are never ever capable of great evil and racism. The fault of everything on the planet is white people.

Let’s examine history together.

To first Europeans to be in Africa in a capacity to conquer or make war were the Romans to the best of my knowledge. They fought and defeated Carthage, A mighty power, during the Punic wars which were fought from 264-146 BC. That’s well over 2000 years ago. To the best of my knowledge, that’s when Europeans were introduced to Africa.

Now. Do you really believe that events that happened in BC times with the introduction of Europeans have any real impact what so ever on what is happening there currently?

I myself participated in a military operation in Africa and did encounter armed resistance in 1998. During Operation Safe departure when we evacuated the U. S. embassy in Eritrea and several of our citizens and several from other nations. The Ethiopians even strafed our embassy with their fighter jets.

People the world over have been fighting and killing each other since recorded history. Africa is no different. It is as it is due to poverty and due to being poorly run. The tribes and peoples there have been fighting and conquering each other since forever ago. Africa is as it is not because the introduction of European powers but it is lacking in everything. Food, technology, and modern medicine on the whole.

Guns had nothing to do with anything. Guns have been in Europe in the most primitive form since the 1300’s. Since then countless wars have been fought in Europe, including 2 World Wars.

[Slingblade1126]

@JohnK123 oh, you mean Kyle? That's another example of how faux victims create real victimization. Let the city burn, let peoples entire lives go up in smoke and stand by and do nothing because virtue signaling is more important. It's funny how the left didn't care about the looting and violence until a pedophile and career criminal were shot and killed. That's their voting base.

[Exterminatore]

@john

Europe has been no less of a competing group of tribes and peoples and nations since the first humans there than Africa has.

Yet Western Europe and the places that have been colonized by them for the most part are the most successful nations in terms of standard of living, technology and wealth.

To say the introduction of guns into Africa is the result of its current state of affairs is absolute garbage. A gun is an inanimate object. It’s user depends on how and what it will be used for. Of those peoples weren’t already fighting each other or didn’t intend to, the guns would have had no effect.

Yes, European colonization has been extremely exploitative in terms of resources and subjugation of its peoples, particularly in the 1700-1800’s That however would not be the cause of most of Africas current problems.

[Anonymous]

Arbery was know as “The Jogger”. He would rob convenience stores by running in and out with items and cash if he could. He robbed many places. The store owners called him the jogger because that was both his cover and his means of escape. He had also fought off people trying to stop him in past robberies. This information was not allowed to be brought into the trial.

Now that he is dead and gone, robbers will go down in the area for sure. If he were still alive, he might have eventually hurt or killed someone. I a, glad he is gone but it was a steep price.

[Opinion Owner]

Robberies will go down in the area*

[Heartache0405]

I think it was the correct verdict, however, people shouldn't have cheered. It's nothing to cheer about. The way I see it the people who cheered only want to see white people be put down in favor of any other race. No one cheered for Kyle Rittenhouse when he was found not guilty on all accounts, right? So how should this be any different?

[BillyBalls]

Good point.

The man is still dead!

[jaysumlin]

I just people would learn real science and stop using the idea that skin colors represent races for humans. Scientific Racism was invented by Europeans who invented the white race and classified all humans as inferior to their construct, who in their right mind would believe in this rubbish? Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, Carl Linnaeus and some other idiots like them came up with this very stupid and ignorant idea and yet people still believe in this rubbish as it was true, but real science proves it isn't so.

[ManOnFire]

"From what I heard they thought he had robbed them at some time in the past. Maybe he did - maybe he didn't."
- That sounds like a load of shit and a made up excuse to kill the man.

Justice was actually done for once in Georgia and we can rejoice in that. Stacey Abrams for governor 2022!

[josephinelcajon]

Justice is suposed to be blind. Its not! They were found guilty only because of the race war going on. I feel both the shooter and victim were both at fault. It was obvious he had nothing from the job site. Following and then shooting him off site was not good! If you are not guilty of stealling why run and fight!

Question is why are blacks so extremly violent when confronted if they are inocent? While other races are not at all!

[readyplayer001]

they are all scumbags, thinking and knowing are two very different things, what evidence did they have and has come fourth, nothing? nothing, morons, hope they get life

[Danny_dan92]

Rightfully so. They’re idiots. Just like Derek Chauvin.


Kyle Rittenhouse sure people say he shouldn’t have been there. Which I agree. HOWEVER, the cops were literally not doing a thing about people burning down businesses and looting. Cause politicians told them to stand down.

[sage2021]

They said on the news that Georgia is taking the citizens arrest off the books so it won't be a law anymore.

[Anonymous]

I just like to see how many racists try to compare this to the completely unrelated Rittenhouse story. Another mostly white jury, but THIS time, "mostly white juries" are no longer racist, when just a short time ago, I was told that they would always rule in favor of white people. Maybe it's time for racists to stop projecting their racism onto innocent white people.

[askandgiveAnswers]

Many opinions, yet through a proper court system a difference of opinion means a different outcome or even friends u will or won’t hang out with anymore. Gossip doesn’t help in dealing with what type of possible deadly outcome. A true investigation if needed u can be damn wrong. Called in some forms immature, bad judgment, if you made a bet, what does that say about u as you lost or won the bet of forecasting what happened?

[askandgiveAnswers]

When no police are available, the people have rights under the Declaration of Independence and through the constitution. If the people read up on the the laws as constitutionally, we will be better off with reality. THEPBI. us

[DaveToo]

White Nationalists chased down a black man, beat him then shotgunned him when he fought back. The one that got Murder with malice should get the needle. What he'll get is life without parole. His daddy will get life with the possibility of parole in 30 years. The driver won't get that much.