I look at things from an unbiased perspective. Also, I read the actual police reports instead of major media outlets who push an agenda. I don't think this is a race thing, and I hate that the media likes to pin law enforcement against black and Latino communities. It only hurts the issue at hand and creates a racial divide. Anytime I say this, people tell me I'm racist. The thing is- I actually want blacks to prosper in society more than most people given that I work as a reserve sheriffs deputy in a predominantly latino/black neighborhood. Blacks were treated like absolute crap by the American people for a long period of our history with slavery and the Jim Crow era. I think that we're starting to see a shift as blacks are now given equal opportunity to succeed in this country. Let's not hinder the progress by creating a racial divide and making every issue in this country a race issue.
Here's what I believe that happened. I think that there was a huge issue with robbery and burglary in the neighborhood, and these people wanted to help. They see a man sprinting away from an area in which this has been going on and wanted to be good people and stop what was going on. Having said that, even with the best intentions, they handled it incorrectly. They didn't approach the situation with tact. The ex cop forgot that he's not in uniform anymore. When you approach someone yelling from a pickup truck saying to stop and we want to talk to you with guns hanging out the window, then you're a threat. I think this put the man in a fight or flight mode, and he chose to fight thinking they were a threat to his life. I think one thing led to another, and things spun out of control very quickly.
In the video, the man is clearly trying to grab their gun, and that calls for lethal force. If you grab anyone's gun attempting to disarm them, then that other person is forced to use lethal force unless they want to get killed by their own gun. The dad in my opinion, was attempting to protect his son in a life or death situation. Had he not been shot, that man would have disarmed his son, and most likely killed him.
I don't have footage of the video that shows the events leading up to the combative situation. All we have footage of is the combat. What if they approached him and just asked to talk and Armaud became combative and hostile right off the bat? Then they had him dead to rights to shoot him. Who knows what happened? All we can do is formulate a rational perspective based on the information presented.
I think the situation was handled poorly, and they should have approached it with much more tact and thought things through. They should have subtly trailed him and waited for police to get him. Or at least conceal their weapons and talked to him face to face instead of screaming at him. I think the situation spun out of control quickly, and I think they're going to have nightmares of that day for the rest of their life. I don't think it's cold-blooded murder. A very very small percentage of the worlds population get off on taking someone's life. It's an extremely traumatic thing to have to invoke or witness. It's ugly and very unpleasant.
I disagree with the murder charges, and feel as if it should be reduced to manslaughter.
Honestly surprised at the downvoted. Felt like I posted a pretty rational opinion
Where did I state that it’s easy to kill someone?
@Bananaman177 What about his right to self-defence, when he was threatened by two armed men?
@tonybologna25 I didn't say you did say it was easy to kill someone, but I know it is easy not to kill someone, I do it every day. Step 1: don't point a lethal weapon at anyone.
One of them was an ex-cop, he should have known how to deal with such a situation, he wasn't a scared civilian, who could be forgiven for acting stupidly. I don't think they'll be haunted in their dreams, at all, I think they're probably proud of what they did, like bananadick is proud of them for saving the taxpayers some money.
Wait you kill everyday? Lol. And from a cops perspective, he was well within his rights to take the shot after the guy started reaching for the gun. The problem wasn’t that he was scared. The problem was that he chased down this guy prior and acted like a uniformed cop without being one.
Lemme just start by saying that I don't know a ton about this situation. I know is what news reports have told me.
Now, having said that: here are my thoughts.
1. The incident took place in February, and we're only hearing about it now. I find this fact strange. Even stranger is that someone happened to have a video camera rolling, and the footage shows enough to look incriminating as hell, but doesn't show the actual shooting. This story comes to the national light right after Joey B. gets caught sexually harassing women. That timing sounds hella sketchy to me.
2. The police couldn't decide if they should charge the men who did the shooting, which would also be hella sketchy, the older man wasn't an "Officer of the Court." That video should be enough for the cops to know that some criminal nonsense was happening.
3. This dude dies in an alleged hate crime in pre-outbreak, racially charged America, and there is seriously so little information to read about this story that part of me honestly wonders if Armaud actually died.
There's little doubt that the struggle resulted in his death, and if you're questioning the entire incident and even IF the man is dead, you'd be a voice in the wilderness. It's not going to make much difference if the actual "kill shot" isn't on video when a jury looks at it. The cover up started immediately after the incident. The mother stated she was told by police that her son had been in a struggle with a resident earlier that day, and that it involved a gun, and that's how he was killed. The Brunswick Chief of Police and 3 other officers were indicted by a grand jury on Thursday for other narcotics related corruption. The Brunswick police department has a long history of being among the most corrupt in the state, so it's no great surprise arrests were not made immediately following the shooting. Whether it gets moved to Federal court and prosecuted as a hate crime or not, is sort of irrelevant. The father of the shooter was a retired cop with 27 years experience. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and thought he could get away with it based on the citizen's arrest law in Georgia, and stand your ground. When you're followed and a guy jumps out of a truck with a shotgun, who's the one standing their ground now? This was a lynching without a rope.
@loveslongnails Yeah, this is why I started my answer with "Please understand that I barely know anything at all about what I'm talking about." Thank you for sharing that information.
You're welcome.
The fact that I'm no longer surprised by these events is what's really sad. Desensitization to the killing of black people is becoming a norm. The fact that this happened in February and it is just now gaining attention is disgusting. These men have gotten to sit comfortably for over 2 months after killing someone. Someone that they decided was guilty for let's face it, the color of his skin. He was minding his business, just like Trayvon Martin was minding his business and these two men painted him as a criminal based off him being a black man. And the man recording was also in on it. America is a shitshow. This ain't no land of the free. Black people ain't free here. Period.
Its ridiculous i dont really know the ins or outs of this case i just caught a bit on the news. But there is absolutely no power on earth that gives you the right to gun down anyone. May he or she be green or a fucking polka dot color. I am white but mix within European countries i do not understand this racist crap that America runs on. I was married to an African from Kenya and i was the only white woman in a small vilage just outside of Mombasa. And they treated me with love as one of their own. Why can't people just look past the fucking color of their skin. We all bleed red dont we?
Now that is one sided. Plenty of white trash all over the states killing and torturing their own young. I am not siding with neither color. You do wrong u go to jail. It has nothing to do with color. You do wrong you take your punishment like a man and seek forgiveness. I spent most of my adult life in middle east and going to jail was a life long experience not a holiday like here in states in some counties. But no one no matter the color deserves to be shot while jogging, shopping, walking or simply existing.
He wasn't jogging, that's the whole thing. He was sneaking around looking in people's windows. Then when some of the people who live there and are tired of getting robbed tried to put him under citizen's arrest, THEN he started jogging. In boots. 12 miles from his house.
As i said above i do not have enough information about the whole case what am getting at is you do not shoot willy nilly at anyone white black green or polka dot. You call the cops unless the guy enters your property. Than stand your ground law is appropriate. I carry my self and know my rights. but id never unload on a street with people present. Stay bullets kill more people every year. This is why police officers do not just start blasting on a streets. If you can not handle a hand to hand combat than do not approach the assumed criminal.
You should have stopped at "I do not have enough information."
Let them rob your fucking house, and then come sing "Kumbaya" at people just trying to defend their homes, lives, and livlihoods.
The only thing the Middle East ever got right was chopping the hands off of thieves. Here in this country, we shoot them, and that's too merciful, in my opinion.
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Unfuckingbelievable. AGAIN.
Also, not for nothing, EVEN IF this dude was sprinting away with their TV, and EVEN IF he posed some sort of physical threat short of producing his own deadly weapon, that’s absolutely insane that anyone would consider that grounds to kill somebody. That is just a BANANAS mentality we have in this country. I don’t mean to downplay the probable racial prejudice that was involved, but I more just say that to say “are these really justifiable reasons to kill someone?”, that’s the mindset these people are walking around with everyday? “Somebody stole from me. So now I will kill them and that’s totally cool and rational.” That is a FUCKED mentality.
So you have these locked and loaded hardos out here who CAN’T WAIT to shoot somebody and get away with it, and thump their chest about “muh self-defense” afterwards, and +1,000,000 points if it was a black dude, fuckin’ fantasy camp, they’ll jack off to that memory for life, a lot of them. I don’t want to go too overboard with generalizing, I guess that’s no better than the “well, what about Chicago?” crowd, but fuck, man, I’ve seen these too many times for too many years.
Exactly my thoughts. This is exactly the argument that seems to be entirely missing in all of the debates currently happening around this case. It's all about "was he a burglar or not?". In what kind of fucked up country (spoiler: America) does that matter when somebody was MURDERED?
And you absolutely nailed with your description of the two in your second paragraph. Aybody who doesn't at the very least recognize the kind of mentality these two fucktards clearly have, is either extremely naive or extremely disingenuous because they have the same fucked up mentality.
Just a quick note to counter all the repeated lies on here; especially the stupid meme that says he was wearing boots (I expect that will now have been "just a joke"). The video of the victim in the construction site clearly shows him wearing running shoes, and just looking around, not taking anything.
The owner said there hadn't been any burglaries, that nothing was taken, and, tellingly, that they probably won't move into the property because they've received death threats.
There were NO burglaries reported in the area, in the weeks leading up to the murder, as the murderers claimed:
"USA TODAY filed an open public records request with the Glynn County Police Department for burglaries and home break-ins in the Satilla Shores neighborhood between Jan. 1 and Feb. 23. The department's records office said in an email Thursday it had no records matching that request."
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2020/05/07/ahmaud-arbery-shooting-video-prosecutor-arrest-mcmichael/3089040001/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/09/georgia-attorney-general-investigate-local-officials-handling-ahmaud-arberys-murder/
I hope there will be many convictions, not just for murder, but also obstruction of justice or even accessory after the fact. I won't hold my breath, though, if the jury is of their "peers".
Exactly - do not hold your breath. This is Georgia, a place where plantations would re-open, slavery would be voted back into law, and they'd still secede from the Union, if it were possible. We'll see what happens.
It's not a hate crime just cause a black guy is shot. It's only a hate crime if the person did it because of there color.
But it's not a hate crime to kill a guy who is black for any other reason even if the reason is i killed him for the fun of it. That is not a hate crime.
that's just a guy killing.
Also if a guy is running away resisting arrest you can shoot if you tell them to stop otherwise you can shoot.
And i ain't gonna complain when a criminal gets killed you can if you want but still i ain't gonna.
Assuming he is a criminal from what others have posted articles of down below.
It should not have happened but the killers won’t be punished because one of them worked for the DA. I’ve read a claim for justification that the shooter was justified because Arbery grabbed the shotgun which can turn turn into a lethal struggle for both parties, but they shouldn’t have went after him in the first place. Merely matching a description doesn’t exactly scream reasonable proof or whatever to me. Hell, I bet that all they heard from the description was “(height) black male” and just went out and went after the next black man they saw.
It’s in Georgia. What a fucking hillbilly state.
What was he smoking dust? What did he think would happen when he physically attacked someone that was holding a gun and tried to take it from them? That’s one dumb motherfucker… He had no street smarts whatsoever. When you initiate a physical attack and give someone reason to fear for their life (i. e try to grab a gun) stand your ground laws instantly come into effect. As to the details that lead up to that supposed “citizens arrest” that’s probably questionable. They were obviously on the phone with the police at the time they were following him. I don’t know when the actual crime occurred or if he was involved. If he hadn’t done anything wrong and just kept his cool the guys that chased him down would have been legally accountable and would spend 5 years in jail for pointing a loaded weapon at him. Instead he went full retard and got removed from the gene pool. You can’t fix stupid.
I think people's instinct is always to side with the victim and that's due to how we were raised.
We always believe that there is good and there is evil and only evil men do evil and good men so good. Sure we outgrow this childish way of thinking eventually but it never goes away.
The reality is he wasn't killed because he's black. Him being black in that neighborhood combined with a thousand other factor lead to the misunderstanding that then lead to his killing. It wasn't a hate crime the one who shot him truly believed he was doing the right thing and that's often how shootings go. I'm not saying he shouldn't be charged but I'm saying he shouldn't be condemned by everyone around the world. This wasn't premeditated. It wasn't racist. It wasn't a conspiracy agaisnt black people. This was an incident that happenes all the time and NON of us here know the full picture
Aren't you fucking brilliant? The full picture IS readily available. Do you live there? No. Do you know the neighborhood? NO. I do. Brunswick is one fucked up police state with nothing but a ton of corrupt cops led by a Police Chief who was just today arrested. You don't know jack shit. And there's not a thing unusual about a black kid jogging in the street in the middle of the day where he was. He was killed because two yahoos thought they could get away with some shit. Premeditation doesn't matter. So what if the charge is aggravated manslaughter instead of murder. I don't care if someone is crying conspiracy or not... that doesn't matter. What matters, is what happened. There's nothing CHILDISH about the notion that evil men do evil things. These men had NO business doing what they did. None, whatsoever.
See you just proved my point. I don't know what you do and neither does the rest of the world. I'm not saying they're innocent. I'm simply stating that no one is looking objectively at the situation and instead they're all jumping on the bandwagon of defending the victim.
But what you just told me just begged a question. If this town was so well known to be full of corrupt cops and is a town of mainly white racist people.
Why did that guy decide to go jog there (now he was within his rights of course) but why ask for trouble when you can avoid it. End of the day no matter what the judge decides Ahmud Aurbery will still be dead and that alone is a shame
" no one is looking objectively at the situation and instead they're all jumping on the bandwagon of defending the victim." Here's what you don't know. Brunswick is a town of roughly 22,000. 56% are black. Predominantly white neighborhoods can be a block or two from predominantly black neighborhoods, as many of the older ones are. It's not like white folks never see black folks, or deal with them on a regular basis - it's commonplace. He was shot in Satilla Shores, a mostly white middle to upper middle class neighborhood adjacent to the south city limits of Brunswick, near the Jekyll Island causeway. If you're a runner, or biker, it's not unusual to go into a community and get off the major highway. One report claims that a caller to 911 said he was seen on a construction site of a new home, and he'd been there before and it was on video. That is not a crime in Georgia.
Why he chose to run through there we'll never know, but it's irrelevant because he wasn't committing any crimes, except perhaps poor judgment. The men who chose to confront him however, had even worse judgment and mishandled the whole situation. The one guy who was a cop for 27 years should have known exactly what to do, and that would be to CALL the cops if you suspected a crime had been committed. Instead, they grabbed guns, chased him down, and shouted out that they wanted to talk. When that didn't happen, the kid exits the car with a shotgun? No weapon was found on the deceased after the shooting.
The man who shot the video is said to be the man who made the 911 call days earlier. He followed the chase and recorded it. Now that he's turned over the video, he too is under investigation, and he's also receiving threats.
Well thank you for actually bothering to lay it out for me so clearly. Now I know many things I didn't know and therefore erasing many assumptions.
But what I can't figure out is why did those two men and one was a cop for three decades storm out of their home and take it so personally that they jump the guy with guns eventually killing him?
I mean he also had a record let's not ignore that there are mug shots of him.
Anyone stop to consider maybe the shooters are involved in something and mistook him for someone sent to steal from them? Or even that he actually WAS casing that construction site and they figured they'd get to him before the cops? I mean without that video there would be no case it would be easy to plead self defense. Either way this is uncommon and not just a racist mugging gone wrong
It's pretty bad when the Georgia Bureau of Investigation actually thinks it's worth looking into. It's still the good ole' boy network down here from Louisiana, Miss, Alabama, Georgia and Florida. Let's see what happens now that there's a full, all out inquiry, and the police chief is in jail on non-related charges.
Granted I didn’t see the video depicting it but I heard that they were actually fighting over the gun and Armaud accidentally shot himself with it in the middle of that struggle.
I think those guys were father and son cops who were looking for suspects for a break in from what the owner of the broken into house described the robber as being African American and they just wanted to ask Armaud a question because they saw him as a potential suspect and he got defensive. Based on that, I can’t really say this is based on racial profiling (not with malicious intent anyway) because I’m sure if the robber was described as white they would be looking for white people.
I think justice should indeed be served. I just personally don't believe in spending my anger and time on black men as they don't spend their anger and time on black women.
Hopefully they sort it out themselves. I guess this is an unpopular opinion, but whatever.
It's disgusting. Period. The racism and hate crimes against black people needs to end. Innocent people are being killed and for what? what do they gain from killing an innocent person? do they think they're doing something for society by doing it? All they're doing is proving that white men are the crazy ones, killing innocent people and hurting families and communities.
Boy, is this going to trigger (and identify) the bigots here? Make note because they'll cry like babies if you call them out later.
Lol is this a joke?
those are examples of the right-wing mentality
He already got his justice.
His name even sounds like, "Armed robbery" lol.
@jayden888 If you want to see the evidence, you'll have to start by turning off the news. 
https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/256700452
@jayden888 The DA has it.
Are you thick in the head? I asked you for video evidence of the burglary. I had a friend who lives in Lewisburg WV and he was harassed by 4 white men, who sliced his truck tires, called him "terrorists" and almost broke his house door once. The police did nothing. In places like this the police abet such things. So once again, where is the evidence that this guy burglarized the place before they went behind him?
How could Arbery have started the fight? He was on foot, these three went to him with guns in a pick up truck. So they started it.
An American tragedy. Whether it was profiling or vigilantes. Would they have reacted the same if he was white? I think not. Especially, since profiling and discrimination still exists. On the surface, it makes them not just murderers but racist murderers. To be fair. It is a systemic problem all 3 men were caught in. Charges should be reduced to manslaughter. And discrimination finally needs the death penalty.
Although think the McMichaels are idiots, do deserve life in prison and will get it, based on what's been reported so far I think it's a mistake to see this as a race-based hate crime.
As a regular jogger myself, I can certainly put myself in his shoes and definitely wouldn't take two armed men who cut me off as just wanting to talk.
This was infuriating. People in my neighborhood walk, ride their bike, and take jogs all the time. Now I'm shaking and thinking about never taking a walk in my neighborhood again. And the audacity of them to say they thought he was a "burglar"... really? smh society is just fucked man. Hopefully something comes from this. Funny how people have all this energy to protest so they can get a haircut, but don't have that same energy for a hate crime.
He WAS a burglar, they have it on tape.
@Akachan It doesn't matter whether you or I are convinced, the DA has seen it and he is convinced, that's why these guys weren't charged all the way back in February when this shooting actually happened. These guys were arrested and charged just days ago, and I'm sure the reason they were is to protect them from a lynch mob since so many people like Shaun King are making terroristic threats against them.
I think the media probably has the video and won't release it because it destroys their race-baiting narrative. I'm also sure that it WILL be released now, and even after it is, people will still continue to believe that they simply murdered an innocent "jogger" because he was black for absolutely no reason besides them being "big meanies!"
I'm convinced that he wasn't "jogging" by the fact that he was jogging in untied, unlaced work boots and sagging pants, carrying a hammer, standing in people's yards and looking in their windows, 12 miles away from his house. 
The man and his son both deserve the electric chair.
Weren't they arrested and charged for murder?
I think it's pretty terrible. They said he fit a description of a guy who had been breaking into houses in that area. They were trying to make a citizen's arrest. But isn't vigilantism illegal?
They actually caught him looking in people's windows. He claimed to be jogging. . . in boots. . . about 80 miles away from his own house.
They shot him when he tried to wrestle the gun away from them. They were going to hold him until the police arrived, but he decided to get violent. It's on the cell phone video.
Unless you would rather believe that he was just "jogging" in work boots and SAGGING PANTS. You'll believe anything as long as it isn't true, apparently.
The perpetrators walking free for over 2 months after killing him is what I like to call insult over injury. Crime is bad, but a blatant miscarriages of justice on top of that only makes things significantly worse.
Young one, you are in the wrong forum.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZncGCCZzMkIWhether Arbery was a robber or not really doesn't matter anymore, shooting a man in the middle of the street in broad daylight is f*cking disgusting behaviour. I truly hope those two men who shot him get the worst punishment imaginable for the crime.
I will absolutely say that the situation is absolutely disgusting. I demand that justice be served instantly. This said, I do not think to promote some supremacy and racism is NOT the answer. I hope we use this opportunity to better as a society. I don't think one bad apple represents an entire race...
I live there. It's disgusting, and the guys who did it are going to rot in jail, as they should. Sadly, it goes to what I've always said "humans are stupid".
The dude got murdered and the killers should go to prison for a very long or life.
You can't claim self defense while chasing someone down the street with guns drawn and shoot them dead if they confront you to defend themselves.
@bannaman you can't just kidnap people and say your going to hold them til police came. Pulling a firearm on someone and telling them you can't leave is kidnapping
Check the law, dumbass. It's called a "Citizen's Arrest." Look it up.
Yeah, I have no problem believing you're too dumb to know how to do it but one of the guys who tried to arrest this guy happens to be a former police officer, so I think he knows how to go about arresting somebody. He even knows what to do when the person you're trying to arrest decides to assault you and try to take your gun.
That's why he was never arrested or charged back in February when this actually happened, it was found to be justifiable homicide. They've been arrested and charged NOW, all the way in fucking May, purely for their own protection since idiot race-baiters like Shaun King are now trying to whip people into a frenzy and making terroristic threats because they can't accept that one of their pet Dindu Nuttin's got nutted.
Just like Trayvon, just like Michael Brown, just like Eric Garner, just another black thug who thinks being black gives them a license to commit crimes and you're just another mark who thinks white people defending themselves from a black thug is "waythism."
Thank fucking GOD he's dead. There hasn't been a burglary in that neighborhood since, so they obviously got the right guy. They deserve medals.
I live clear on the other side of the country and the whole community where I live is shaken up that this can happen without proper investigation by the district attorney in that area. There is just so much wrong with this.
They did do a proper investigation, they have video of this guy burglarizing homes. 
@Bananaman177 where is this hammer coming from?
Thank you
@TienShenhan Well, it turns out he was stealing the fucking copper pipes. 
@TienShenhan They scrubbed his social media off the internet before the start of this media campaign, but unfortunately, they didn't do a good enough job:
Is this the kind of guy you want "jogging" in your neighborhood?
@Bananaman177 wow. This is why I dont jump on media bandwagons immediately and start shouting racism and "he was just jogging!" People believe whatever the fuck the media wants them to with no standards of proof
@TienShenhan The man's still dead with no evidence of a felony, other than the one committed against him.
@goaded Reaching for someone's gun during a citizen's arrest is a capital offense. Also, they shot him in the hand first, since he grabbed the barrel, and he still kept attacking them, which is why he was shot fatally. Being an aggressive, belligerent criminal retard is what got him killed. If he had waited for the cops like the nice white gentlemen asked him too, he could have gotten away with maybe a couple of years in jail. If that. I know that ALL burglary is a felony in the great state of Georgia, including attempted burglary. And they had him on tape burglarizing multiple times. How was he going to carry the pipes? Well nobody ever accused this guy of forethought, now did they? Maybe his plan was to hide the pipes in the nearby wooded area and then come back for them later. Maybe he was going to run with them stuffed down his saggy pants. He's a criminal, not necessarily a criminal mastermind. From everything we know about this case and his previous arrest for trying to sneak a gun into a high school basketball game and running from police, and the way he reacted to being placed under citizen's arrest at gun point, I'd say this guy was pretty fucking stupid, to be honest. And them pictures of him holding "gats" with his gangbanging buddies and selling weed ain't memes, those are pictures recovered from his own deleted social media accounts. He was in a gang called "CGM," Coastal Georgia Mafia. Real nice guy. Real upstanding citizen. I'm sure he'd be welcome in your house, he could bang your missus for you while you watch.
@Bananaman177 No, it's not. They could have stayed in the truck, they could have taken photos of him, they could have done a whole lot of things that didn't end in a death. His death is down to them, not him. Hell, the police were there in a couple of minutes, it's not like they were way out in the sticks somewhere.
@goaded Sure, when seconds count, police are only minutes away. They got out of the truck to head him off because he was trying to ESCAPE. It was a clean arrest and a clean kill. People who refuse to abide by the law can't come crying when they get shot. He took his life in his own hands when he decided to live a life of crime. Well, gamble long enough and you'll lose eventually.
@goaded Four-part question:
1. Yeah?
2. And?
3. So?
4 What?
It's objectively a good thing that he's dead. One less burglar in the world, and the taxpayers don't have to pay for his three hots and a cot for the next 5 years. Everybody wins. You should try living in a bad neighborhood where you have to lock and brace your doors and put bars on your windows to keep people from robbing you and stealing everything that isn't bolted down.
You want this son of a bitch to live forever and be free to terrorize people that WORK for a living? Fuck him and fuck you too, stupid.
@Bananaman177 Well, the video made by their friend of them shooting him, for a start. Ask yourself why that was being circulated privately. I'd love to see the comments that went around with it. I'm sure they were full of remorse.
Then there's the little detail of the person who decided not to prosecute later had to recuse themselves for this prosecution (but still wrote that letter); that's not the way it works - if you'd have to recuse yourself, you have to do it before you make any decisions in the case. Not after you declare your friends innocent.
i just posted a question about this.
this is sad. i don't understand how this could be within their rights to do this.
this has to stop.
This is sad that we got live in this world where this is still going on
I hope that Man is prosecuted and brought to justice and placed in jail
I'm sorry for this guy :/
I’m not surprised anymore. A white former cop and his son, in the south, murdering an unarmed black man. Disgraceful
I dont have enough information to support claims one way or the other. But I'd only shoot the guy if I caught him in my house, chasing him down is murder. And if you are going to chase a guy down, dont use your gun unless he pulls one out too
They placed him under citizen's arrest and were holding him until the police came, but he attacked them and tried to wrestle one of their guns away, and that's when he was shot. Why didn't he want to stay there and wait for police? Because he knew he was guilty and would go to prison. 
Yeah I'd like to see the surveillance tapes that recorded break-ins. Have those been released?
@Bananaman177 fucking gold lmao
What the fuck? That was cold blood murder. You see how the guy just walked away after Armaud Arbery stumbled to his death? I’ve been sensing this shit, white people are ready to start killing off the minorities.
It’s so sad it’s honestly so scary living in America right now where justice depends on the color of your skin and who your are.
I don't get why the police continue to pull these things
It's so messed up. The two guys who chased him need to be trialed and put to death. The killing of black men is taken so lightly, it's not fair.
Read this:
@Bananaman177 "A private person may arrest an offender *if* the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. *If* the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion."
@Bananaman177 Same as goaded said. You know I've been to a small town named Lewisburg in WV, I know what sort of people shot this man - the type that call blacks negros and chimps. These people do crimes with impunity because they know even the cops in the small town won't bother.
"USA TODAY filed an open public records request with the Glynn County Police Department for burglaries and home break-ins in the Satilla Shores neighborhood between Jan. 1 and Feb. 23. The department's records office said in an email Thursday it had no records matching that request. "
eu.usatoday.com/.../
@goaded Every day, all day long, and if anybody shows incontrovertible evidence that you're lying, you disappear and then come back tomorrow and tell the same lie over again as if nothing ever happened.
You're a provocateur. I just hope you're actually getting paid for it, and not doing it pro bono.
@goaded Here is a handy-dandy link to all of them:
https://www.girlsaskguys.com/user/goaded
They submitted the video evidence to the DA way back when this shooting took place in February, and the DA reviewed it and decided not to arrest or charge them as a result. It hasn't been released to the public and they were just arrested and charged now (most likely for their own protection) after a massive public outrage campaign fabricated by the same corporate media that pulled this same shit with Trayvon and Michael Brown. I'd be willing to bet money that even if the media DID have the tape, they simply wouldn't play it because it would destroy their race-baiting narrative that you've swallowed hook, line, and sinker. You could try asking the Georgia DA directly to release the video. I've posted documents here that have his name on it. I don't see why he would withhold it from you, you and your good opinion are so important to this case.
@bananaman177 Once again, there weren't any burglaries or home break-ins in the Satilla Shores neighborhood in six weeks or so of the shooting.
eu.usatoday.com/.../
"USA TODAY filed an open public records request with the Glynn County Police Department for burglaries and home break-ins in the Satilla Shores neighborhood between Jan. 1 and Feb. 23. The department's records office said in an email Thursday it had no records matching that request. "
Right, because if there were, you'd be the first one to have seen it, yeah? How dare they leave you out of the loop?
Just released:
www.ajc.com/.../
Fuckin' A, he goes "jogging" right into somebody's fucking house. Post your address, I'd like to jog over to your place and come see if you have anything worth stealing, ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
@Bananaman177 You didn't read that article, did you? Here are the relevant parts:
"[GBI:] "It is important to note that this footage was reviewed at the beginning of the GBI investigation and before the arrests of Gregory and Travis McMichael.""
"Former Fulton prosecutor Manny Arora, who reviewed the video, said entry of a construction site is not necessarily a crime. At most, it may be a misdemeanor, unless anything was taken, he said.
Georgia law allows for a citizen’s arrest in a felony crime committed in one’s presence, said Arora, who is currently a criminal defense attorney in Atlanta. But a citizen can only use reasonable force to detain a person and deadly force cannot be used unless it’s to prevent a forcible felony or for self-defense.
Since the McMichaels initiated the confrontation with the weapons it will be difficult for them to claim self-defense and what appears on the security video doesn’t justify their actions, he said. The footage also demonstrates that police were not far from the neighborhood when the incident occurred, he said."
@goaded Good thing you're not a lawyer, I wouldn't hire you. It doesn't matter what crime he was suspected of, they placed him under citizen's arrest and attempted to hold him until the police came to sort it out, if he had been innocent I'm sure he would have been all too willing to wait for the police, where he could have argued that he wanted to press charges against the men for harassment or any other bogus, made-up thing, but he knew he was guilty and that is why he attempted, quite stupidly, to assault them and wrestle a gun away from one of them, and it was for this assault that he was rightfully and justifiably shot, more than once because the first one to his hand didn't manage to deter him, the dumb bastard, ha ha ha, and therefore he necessitated his own justifiable homicide, where he did the only decent thing of his entire life, getting himself taken off the streets for good. Amen. Now hard working Americans can all breathe easier knowing there's one less burglar in the world.
Score one for the good guys, you simpleton! Your Heebish pilpul couldn't save this filthy degenerate scumbag and now he will never victimize anyone ever again, which must torture you like the twisting of a thousand knives in your guts. Drat! Foiled again by the great second Amendment, eh Moshe? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! Now if you'll excuse me I have to go make myself some breakfast burritos to go with this wine I'm drinking in celebration. It's a great day.
Jayden, here is the link to the video of him jogging onto the property:
www.ajc.com/.../
@goaded You know what I think makes a person disgusting? Being a fucking burglar. You know who else is disgusting? People who advocate for burglar's rights. Fuck him and fuck his mother and fuck you, too. Thank God he's dead. Let me tell you something else, not all blacks are human garbage, but this dead bastard definitely was and decent blacks know it, and they know the people who are trying to turn this into a race-war are not doing it out of care and concern for the black community:
@goaded Don't forget people who defend and enable burglars and insult and defile people who are defending their own homes and their own neighborhood. If anything, those are the people who should be put against the wall first and foremost. One of you is worse than a thousand burglars on the street. A traitor is far more dangerous than an enemy. Snake in the grass. A pox on your tongue. Go back to the shadows. 
@Bananaman177 Nothing in that footage shows it was that guy near the property. So you cursing him and his mom is baseless. Here are some things that will help:
1. Does Arbery live in the area?
2. Does he jog by that route often?
3. Is there clear footage that he was seen in the property? (The video doesn't show him. It shows some figure who is probably at least 100 feet from the camera).
So we are back to square one. These men killed a man, tracking him down on a pick up truck with no evidence that he was in their property.
@bananaman177 You know what's messed up. You know there is absolutely not conclusive evidence that this man burglarized the place. But you'd still say things like "justice is served", still say, "he deserved it".
The burden of proof is in the men who chased him down. Because the ONLY clear footage so far shows the site of the killing nowhere near their property.
Just wait, there's more videos, they haven't been released yet. Here's a screenshot, though:
I'll post these videos as soon as they are forthcoming. Keep painting yourself into a corner.
Look, Jayden, look at your buddy:
Mmmm, yeah. Suck it.
Ok, now I know you're being stupid on purpose, not just ignorant and well-meaning. He's a fucking GANGBANGER, not a responsible gun-owner, and YES, that is him in the screenshot. The full video will be released shortly and your race-baiting narrative will continue to fall apart like a house of cards. Ask yourself why all his social media was scrubbed in the first place, you lying sack of shit. Imagine how many other incriminating photos there were. Remember that the shooting took place all the way back in February and the case was already closed until his mother hired this hot-shot law-firm and they're the ones who completely erased all his social media first and then started pushing this false "jogging" narrative in the news trying to pressure police and courts to arrest the heroes who were already investigated and cleared way back when it happened. 
More and more evidence continues to be released, so keep making up retarded bullshit that will all be proven incorrect, it really helps your credibility, you cocksucker, you.
More photos recovered from his hastily deleted social media accounts:
My personal favorite:
CGM stands for "Coastal Georgia Mafia." That's the name of his gang.
When are you going to retract your race-baiting bullshit? I have more to post, I suggest you stop making a fool of yourself, cunt. I can do this forever.
@Bananaman177 When are you going to retract and admit a man has been killed without evidence? "Video will be released soon". Okay, why not now? The fact is simple - there is no evidence he burglarized the place and they went to the extent of following him in a truck and killing him.
Stop posting stuff and wasting yours as well as my time till the point you have the video of him INSIDE the property and showing without a doubt, it was him.
The guys who arrested him are the ones who witnessed him, they had eyes on him the entire time, which is why they were able to chase him down. And since one of them is a former cop with 30 years on the force, that lends them a great deal of credibility.
@Bananaman177 No it doesn't. In small towns like this cops are bigoted - which is why justice isn't served. You yourself have no video of him burglarizing, but readily call him a "GANGBANGER". I know people who call blacks, "negros", "monkeys" - so when you see a human as an animal, and you like hunting you'll end up justifying such things. This conversation is going nowhere. You haven't produced the evidence I asked for.
Dude, can you not see the pictures? The FUCK are you talking about, Moshe?
What fucking evidence do you have for any of your wild assertions? NOT ONE GODDAMN THING!
@Bananaman177 Those picture prove nothing. I can show you pictures of white people having guns - how does that proved he burglarized the place in this incident? CCTV camera footage of it, or it's murder. The jogging man didn't even have anything in his person. So what did he burglarize? It's all made up. You know it's a lie too.
You really are a Moshe.
Right, it takes mountain ranges of evidence to convince you of anything and no matter what evidence is presented, it's never good enough, but you feel completely confident making wild and baseless assertions of your own and never provide evidence for anything you say. That's a dead giveaway that you're a Moshe. Another one is that you think criminals and degenerates are always right and their victims are always wrong. Criminals deserve to be protected from their victims defending themselves and their property, but victims should just roll over and let themselves be robbed. Fucking disgusting. Make me want to PUKE! You've obviously never lived in a bad neighborhood where criminals like this are a dime a dozen and your place gets broken into every week and they steal anything they think they can pawn for money to go buy drugs. It's so easy for you to look down on victims, because you've never fucking been one. Pampered and sheltered and protected all your life and you want to lecture to others about what life is really like and how things should be. Make me want to fucking PUKE, dude. For real. Not hyperbole. You fucking SUCK.
You're right, he's a drug-dealing gangbanger with a criminal record for bringing a loaded gun to a high school and running from cops and stealing a TV, and the water company had to come shut off the water to the place immediately after he jogged onto the premises because the pipes were ripped off the wall, and there's screenshots from multiple videos of him burglarizing places, but that is ZERO EVIDENCE that he actually burglarized the place. You suck, bro. And you're brainwashed by lying media and you can't admit that you're wrong.
@goaded I resent the implication that I was hiding my bigotry when I called you "Moshe" and "Rabbi" and "Heeb" and God knows what else, just because Jayden is a retard who literally needs it spelled out for him. I wasn't hiding shit. It's sad and pathetic that I can TELL you're Jewish just by reading a few lines of text that you wrote, bro. Stop pretending I'm the one who should be ashamed. 
@Bananaman177 Says the person who lies all the time.
"Mr. Arbery was wearing a white T-shirt, khaki shorts, Nike sneakers and a bandanna when he was killed."
www.nytimes.com/.../...rbery-shooting-georgia.html
@goaded Wait, hold oh, ha ha ha. . . Did you just accuse me of having no critical thinking skills. . . for thinking critically about the credibility of KNOWN, PROVEN, DOCUMENTED liars and frauds?
You guys are fucking hilarious. . . I promise, when I hold the axe of vengeance over your head, I'll give you a little wink before I chop your goblin head off, lol.
@Bananaman177 As opposed to you, who's lied repeatedly and unapologetically about things that are really simple to disprove. He lived 80 miles away? Really? In a county that's less then 40 miles across? There's video of him in the house (wearing running shoes), but he was wearing boots?
@goaded I think it's funny how you people think that getting the last word in means you win the argument, but I seriously doubt anybody will ever scroll all the way down to this post, let alone the next one you make, and I'm just no longer interested in playing pilpul with you, or "bandying crooked words with a witless worm," as Gandalf might say.
It's enough to me that you know that I see right through you and people like you are the reason anti-Semitism is increasing globally and will continue to increase until you all get holocausted again. It's just amazing to me that you people can never learn the error of your ways, and you just keep repeating your History. You must really love to be persecuted and genocided, there's just no other fucking explanation. You must crave it. Some. . . suicidal instinct of some kind must be the defining characteristic of your race or culture or however you want to phrase it.
America is the country that supposedly saved your people from the holocaust camps and look at how you repay us, you hate us worse than you hate the Germans, you work day and night to undermine and subvert and corrupt and damage us in any way you possibly can. And it just never occurs to you that that's the reason you're the pariahs of human History, unwanted and unwelcome wherever you go. Hunted and persecuted, hated and despised, constantly under attack. Is it really so much fun to play the villain? Is it really so much more satisfying to destroy and corrupt and befoul? Do you really think it profits you? Explain it to me. What is it about Evil that you find so lovely?
I think you guys are really stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime, winning battles only to lose the war, and using your intelligence only to outsmart yourselves.
@Bananaman177 "You people"? What a stupid ass you are.
I won the argument ages ago, you just don't have the critical thinking skills to realise it.
You know, it was people like you who turned away Jewish refugees from America, don't try to pretend you're anything to do with the people who fought and died to defeat other people like you.
Apparently he was fighting with the guy... I'm interested to know why they were fighting, because I'm having a hard time believing they just rolled up on him and blasted him
They admitted doing just that but are claiming self defense.
If you were out for a jog and some stranger pulled a gun on you with his relative loading up in the back of a truck to take a pop shot at you, you might be compelled to resist a little.
And if you do, apparently, that's then okay if you're killed.
I'm a little out of touch been working from home but working hard just the same so I didn't know this happen but this is unacceptable behavior and he should be punished severely
I don't know anything about the story but if what you are saying is true and he was gunned down while minding his own business jogging then yes someone does need to be punished for the crime.
America.
MAGA.
Land of the free, home of the brave, and if you don't like it, you can leave, bitches.
Yo.
Terrible and Sad nothing done about it because killer is son of an ex police officer. Gives me another reason not to visit to Georgia.
It's actually because the DA already has video of Arbery burglarizing someone's home, as well as video of him trying to take the guns away from them while trying to place him under citizen's arrest. CASE CLOSED.
A lynching that should be a hate crime. Suspicious that one racists was a cop...
This idiot wasn't taking no jog 😆 he was looking to rob. The guys who shot him should be charged though.
Yes the murderer should go to jail and stay there forever.
Jogging 40 miles from his house. I read the story. He had broken into several cars and was fleeing a crime scene. Why you guys always think you killed only for your skin color?
@goaded I got it from someone who lives in the neighborhood where it happened. I don't know who that is
@goaded No I'm not. It was some guy in the Yahoo comments section, on the article about it.
@goaded Why on earth would he do that? And proove it
Why don't you? I'm not about to try and doxx his parents' address, although it might be online, but the fact that the county is only about 40miles across, so it's extremely unlikely he lived that far away. Oh, wait...
"On Sunday, Feb. 23, shortly after 1 p. m., he was killed in a neighborhood a *short jog* away from his home after being confronted by a white man and his son."
www.nytimes.com/.../...rbery-shooting-georgia.html
Why would you believe an anonymous commentator over a newspaper?
Shit happens. If a white guy was jogging & got gunned down by a black guy would anyone even notice?
Just heard about that. Its on video hope you like prison dude
If this was in America I'm not surprised... corrupt af
2 accusers were arrested today. Thankfully:)
You shouldn't jump to conclusions. There is no evidence the shooting was racially motivated.
Ah Anonymous.. Hiding behind your anon pic.
@legalboxers Ahmaud better run, better run!
@Anonymous I think you better run partner...
I hope the dad/son and accomplice rot in jail.
Don’t know who that is 🤷🏻♀️
I don’t think we was just ‘out for a jog’.
All crimes need justice
He’ll get it. Be patient
I think this proves that Bush did 9/11
Very sad that he lost his life like that
They are trying to Keep Trump GREAT AGAIN
aww 2 downrates..
Why was it clearly a hate crime?
Black lives matter. Stop being racist its 2020
Huh?
I think the video looks confusing af. I dunno why a guy jogging, and potentially looking like a suspect in a robbery, has to end with them shooting him.
I've seen countless of cases where police have been blamed for a shooting. Only to see the body cameras show a completely different side of the story. Like when a woman accused police of beating up her black boyfriend, and throwing him off a bridge. But in the video, he just runs away and jumps off by himself.
I don't want to sit around and read a bunch into this case. But from what I can see. It's obvious that people are getting mad if it genuinely happened the way we see in the clips shown by media.
didn't you clearly see a guy taking a jog and getting shot? If you support the dudes who killed him for no reason your just supporting them no matter what idc. Because the evidence is there. Why can't you guys see that what was done was unfair. If it was reverse, you would see what I mean.
Death penalty
Oooookey Dokey!
*ahmaud
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