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The right to bear arms should never be infringed. I’m personally not a fan of abortions if it was my kid, but I don’t really care if other people are doing it. Republicans don’t seem to be trying to ban abortions though. What they are fighting for are state’s rights. They want states to be able to make their own laws on the issue being that it is not a federal matter to begin with. I think that is appropriate. It would not change the laws in blue states and likely swing states that support abortion, but would overall allow states to make their own decisions. If an individual does not like the laws of their states they can always relocate to a different state or go out of state to get a procedure completed. That makes the most sense to me. That is how the founding fathers intended the states to operate given that America is such a geographically large nation with diverse populations that are bound to disagree on many issues. Democrats seem to be pushing for a centrally controlled economy and dictatorship though so they don’t like state’s rights.
Democrats did the same thing with alcohol prohibition and the marihuana tax act… Those decisions should have been left to individual states. Today we see a resurgence in states rights to decide their own drug laws, but and Democrats seem to want that for the most part, but they don’t can’t comprehend the same sort of action for abortions. For the most part they are mentally deficient.
Can't we ban both? That is what I would go for.
yes, that would be fair. then everybody can shut the fuck up
why would you do that
@israelisevil Because they are both methods used to kill people, that's why.
Guns are needed there's people who will get caught lacking and be violated if they go outside without a gun. The police dont save people gun save people. id rather shoot someone then have cops get there after im dead. Abortion idc about in my teenage times i responsible an abortion it no big deal idc if its a human life its not worth ruining someone elses life for what might be miscariage anyway.
Ditch abortions and keep guns. Best case scenario someone creates a abortion gun to shoot babies out of there and then everyone will be happy
best response, cruel, but a fair one at least
Ban guns. Doing so doesn’t involve strapping a woman down to a bed and pulling out a fetus against her will.
Ummm... the woman is there by choice not force.
@AFellowWeeb ban the f-ing abortion or put a limit to how many they may have
Uh... no to the asker
I get that you are anti abortion. You could have just voted to ban abortion then so why did you vote to ban guns instead? Am I missing something here?
"pulling out a fetus against her will"
I've never met a woman who was 9 months pregnant who wanted the baby to stay in there longer.
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Neither. And yet, by that I DON'T mean there shouldn't be any restrictions on either.
The problem is that due to the toxic polarisation in the United States, both of these issues are seen in black and white by both sides. In reality, there is a vast grey area in between in which the opinions of most people (including myself) fall.
For example, most people don't want to ban guns. But they DO want to have background checks and licences for guns. Guns are lethal weapons, and allowing anyone to walk into a store and buy them like candy is insane.
Similarly, when it comes to abortion, very few people agree with the radical feminists about it being a fundamental right. At the same time, abortions may be beneficial in a wide variety of circumstances. So, a midway position is best, where abortion is allowed if the mother's life is in danger, if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, or if the fœtus has severe congenital anomalies.
16 and you gave the most educated response
I think bothe guns and abortion are a right. Nobodys coming to save you you got to save yourself. there's people who will get caught lacking or get killed if they dont have gun on them when they outside. Abortion is needed if not we'd be overpopulated.
@israelisevil Using abortion to control the population is the cruellest imaginable thing in my opinion.
Not forced if we didn't have abortion thered be 60 million kids in orphanages every year or they would just dont home abortion
Do you own gun have you ever aborted a child I've done/do bothe so try something befor you judge it
@israelisevil Contraception and education about non-coital sexual practices is a much better way in my opinion.
Non Coital? You saying you want teach people fuck up ass. We did that it hurt her a lot. Contraception yah but not just condoms birth control works better.
Question: why would people need guns anyway? What is so great about it that we have to pry it off your cold dead hands?
Protection? Well I dont think a civilian needs a gun as huge as their ego just to protect themselves. Also, without guns there'd be less gun-related violence (well duh).
Recreation? Dude we dont need more dead trophy animals. Go play a video game if you want a trophy.
Also, I say ban guns because look at how stupid many people are.. just look at that picture, just see some replies over there. Shoot down a rapist? well damn you just made a family of murderers. See? Some would take the law into their own hands. Some even shoot themselves in the nuts, in the face. Some accidentally shoots someone else. You might be a responsible owner but I assure you there will be another crazy psycho who will shoot down random people for the heck of it and there will be another one who accidentally kill or got killed by his own gun.
Interesting, everything you said was incorrect. I hope you're 7 years old because that's how you sounded throughout that whole thing. Guns are used to save far more lives than they take, gun control only hurts innocent civilians by making them soft targets because criminals don't care about those laws. My right to self defense won't be taken by anyone, especially not a mob of cowards with not one pair of balls between their army of pussies who've never worked a day in their lives and want to force their opinions that are completely absent of facts onto others.
You're seriously asking why we need guns in THIS era, of unprecedented government corruption and oppression, why people need guns? You must be from Europe, we're they're already used to oppressive government. We can at least see you're young, so maybe that's why you don't understand having free autonomy over potential government oppression.
@Rangers the thing is the US dug itself into a hole it's hard to get out of. If you can guns now, there will always be many people who will continue to sell and buy them. That doesn't happen anywhere else but you already made it such a large business that you can't kill it now or like you said the rest of the population will become a easy target.
Guns have always been a good thing, nowhere else in the world do people have a right and ability to defend themselves and we're a country that was founded by armed civilians who had enough of a tyrannical government and fought them off. Far more lives are saved through the defensive use of guns than taken, and it allows us to better restrict our government from becoming tyrannical, which is something nobody else in the world has the ability to do and now you're all as good as slaves to your governments.
The problem there is lack of security in schools which has been changed and we haven't had a mass shooting in a very long time, seems like we were right all along. Nowhere else in the world do people have a right or ability to defend themselves, this is the only country in the world where criminals are afraid of civilans. Guns save far more lives than they take. I'll happily trade 200 lives for the several million saved with guns every year in this country. It's the parent's fault those kids died, they voted for politicians who refuse to secure their schools and create gun free zones for shooters to hit soft targets.
Security that should be at those areas but aren't because those people vote for anti gun politicians who need these tragedies to happen so that they can take advantage of it to gain power. There about 5 million defensive gun uses in the US every year which save an estimated 500,000-3,000,000 lives every year, compared to just 2,000 innocent lives lost, the rest being accidents, suicides which can only be prevented through improving funding for mental health, justified self defense shootings where the attacker or attackers were killed, or police shootings which are almost always justified.
I would rather have guns with no abortion. Because then if a woman gets raped, she can just get her male family members to shoot the guy. Or she can shoot him herself. ... Better yet, shoot the guy before it even happens. Either way, that's one rapist taken off the streets who won't bother any other women ever again.
However, if you ban guns but keep abortion, no woman will ever be safe. You'll just have a bunch of rapists running rampant across the countryside attacking women left and right, with zero repercussions. And society will view that as OK or acceptable because, well, "she can just have an abortion, so she'll be fine."
So if a woman get's raped, she should be forced to be an incubator for a child that's a remnant of a bad person? No, I want the rapist's existence to be purged from the gene pool entirely.
@BazookaTrouper Where did I ever say that?
The whole abortion argument is a catch 22. People refuse to support killing an unborn child for any reason, YET refuse to support a government that attempts to dictate what a woman can do with her own body.
IKt's a moral dilemma that should have never been decided by the courts.
Guns, on the other hand, are necessary tools to ensure our Government doesn't get out of hand. It should not be infringed in any way.
Given the EXTREMELY tough choice between guns and abortion... I ban abortion.
if you're stupid enough to believe gun laws will save anyone, then I feel so sorry for you. You might be those dumb asses who think you can just ask a mass shooter to drop his gun so you can hold hands and sing kumbaya. You need therapy
@gabboo now imagine if it was incredibly difficult for that 16 year old mass shooter to get a gun? Amazing right? Sadly no amount of laws in the US will prevent that from happening due to the insane amount you already got into the population hands all this time.
Background checks are required for all sales of firearms unless it's a private sale between family members. Failure to do so is a felony for the buyer and the seller punishable by up to 20 years in prison. Criminals typically don't know a single thing about shooting, hell these days you see them running around with PGO's and AK pistols holding their guns sideways, which is why it's no surprise that armed civilians win over 97% of all gunfights against armed attackers, especially in Texas that number is even higher. Lawful gun owners in Texas are the most law abiding group in the country by a mile, too, nobody else even comes close. When crimes with guns are committed, it's almost always someone with a mile long rap sheet who obtained it illegally and rest assured their reign of terror won't last more than 2 seconds anywhere that security measures are in place and civilans are allowed to carry.
Ban abortion and sodomy. Let the pink-haired elephants get mad about it and riot, then charge them with insurrection. Reform family courts, so that marriage is seen as less of a trap. Such, that men are less afraid to take it seriously. Make the undermining of the importance of fatherhood into a crime against civilization, and a banned obscenity on television on par with f-bombs and explicit nudity.
The more degenerates this pisses off, the better! Let them be driven desperate!
LOL after this year if they try to ban guns, police departments will be refusing to enforce the laws on account of they want to make it to retirement age lmao. Federal Ammunition has $1,000,000,000 worth of back ordered bullets alone. people won't be surrendering their Ar-15s after seeing how useless cops were during the eric garner terrorism earlier this year--and who is going to be scared after seeing how cops couldn't handle just angry mobs?
I am old school girl yet kinky for sex, I would ban abortion cause we got no right to kill a newborn.
And even for those that consider that first cell to be equivalent to a newborn, there are contraceptives that prevent fertilisation.
Dont foeget about her Swallowing too... once of prevention...
@michael1469 oohhh ok lol
;) she is a keeper... lol
I’d rather you ban guns. We have other means to defend ourselves. But we only have that one recourse to deal with an unwanted pregnancy.
or, merely make better choices.
we all have a choice.
Agreed. And abortion is a choice, same as gun ownership. But abortion, at its core, prevents a tragedy. Unregulated firearms does and has cause mass tragedy. Abortion takes a life, sure but it A life. Mass shootings kill many people each time. Hell last year we lost 16.5 thousand people to just plain old murder and negligence. :/
one life is no less important than the other-a less we've learned over and over this year... to those who've paid any attention. you're talking about murdering an innocent life because you couldn't keep your legs closed-that's a level of selfishness that is extremely high.
''lesson''
It’s not murder hon, learn the difference.
Selfish? It’s selfish to try and remove someone’s bodily autonomy and right to choose their destinies as they see fit, because you don’t like that it terminates cells.
Also, a thought. Maybe if you don’t like abortion, keep your fucking pants on so girls like me don’t get pregnant, and aren’t forced to make that choice to begin with.
you just said you're taking a life. you can't pin the responsibility of your own actions to us.
that's wordplay and you know it. and the one who spreads their allows it as you-take some damn responsibility for your own damn actions.
yes... let's all pretend that all guys can telepathically convince a girl to drop her panties while she can't so ''no''... if only fantasy was reality... sure would be nice.
Like I said, regardless of what we do or don’t do, the ones that knocks us up and puts us in that position, are men. We take our responsibility by making a literal life and death decision. What do you do? Oh that’s right, shame us for not keeping our legs closed so you don’t have to take your responsibility.
because you allow them to.
you're not doing yourself any favor with these arguments.
Like I said, it doesn’t matter if we allow it or not. At the end of the day, we are pregnant because of you. It was your actions that caused it, regardless of what we wanted. But it is rather telling that all you can do is shame us and can’t even admit that you, men, are the causal factor in the abortion choice even being a thing.
these arguments aren't making you look good. instead off accepting responsibility for your own damn body-you make yourself look too weak to be able to even control your own body-that's basically what your argument alludes to.
must me great to live a live free of responsibility.
you gotta learn to take responsibility for your own action. plus, i've never put anyone in that position.
this is only making yourself look bad.
i could except my SHARE. but i don't control your body, your mouth or, your mind-you do-the message your sending is that you're incapable of doing any such thing and would rather blame the guy for your decision.
Good, about time you accept responsibility for your actions.
Hon we don’t decide to have an unwanted pregnancy. That’s not our choice, clearly. That is a biological function that was enacted by a guys direct action. So thank you for taking responsibility for that. :) so since you handle your responsibility how you can, don’t judge us for doing what we have to do for our health and safety.
you allow yourself to be put in that position-no amount of deflection, wordplay or whatever tactic you want to use can change that. all you're telling me is that you're too weak and too lazy to take responsibility of your own body-so, you'd much rather kill an unborn child instead.
Correct, we do usually provided its consensual. We want to have sex and enjoy it. But that doesn’t mean we want pregnancy, and birth control does fail. It failed me twice in 5 years :/ so one does what one must, make a choice.
Hon it’s no tactic. You legit agreed to take responsibility for your share. You admitted to being the causal factor as that is your sole responsibility. Our responsibility lies solely in its aftermath.
Unborn child is an oxymoron. It’s a fetus, hon. A lump of cells without sentience.
oh no, nice try-but i never claimed to be solely responsible. do you even know what a fetus is? i'll tell you: A fetus or foetus is the unborn offspring of an animal that develops from an embryo. Following embryonic development the fetal stage of development takes place. In human prenatal development, fetal development begins from the ninth week after fertilisation and continues until birth. you're killing a life... as you've already said a few times in our debate.
You said you accept your responsibility for what you did, your slice. Your slice of responsibility is the fact of causing pregnancy.
Our responsibility as women is to make a choice of life and death, for the fetus and for ourselves. So we don’t need shit mansplained to us, we don’t need to be shamed for being the receptacle of something you caused and we don’t need you interfering with our choices.
Correct. It is killing. But a child is already a born offspring. Semantics does matter.
so, essentially, you're unable or unwilling to take responsibility for your own body. that's what your argument amounts to.
you chose to have sex knowing the risks.
you consented to the risk.
Again, correct. But consenting to risk doesn’t mean you consent to it actually happening. When you go hiking, you consent to some risk, but I doubt you consent to getting eaten by a bear. When you go to the store, you consent to some risk, but you don’t consent to getting shot by a mugger.
Nope. Can't answer either one. It's like asking do you want the government to control your body (keep in mind, I'm no female) or control your life. I am a Centrist and support both laws. But maybe me being a misanthrope and just "pro-death" is the real reason why I do.
And Brooke Tinibaby, huh? Interesting.
Banning any of them won’t solve anything but if I had to pick one I’d say abortion. According to Guttmacher Institute, the vast majority of abortions are done because of reckless sex and they couldn’t afford to have a child and I believe that this is one of the reasons that people are now dying at a faster rate than people are being born.
Even if you do want abortion back, you can use the guns to fight for it.
Very few people need to own a gun. I'd like them restricted to those people with a legitimate need. I believe those who own them for self defence or political reasons are demonstrating they lack the mental capacity to be trusted with firearms.
guns.
having an abortion is a choice, you can't take that option away, it wouldn't be fair.
"having an abortion is a choice"
Wouldn't owning a gun be a choice? Both abortions and gun ownership are choices.
@rocksongwriter I understand what she means, you can't make a woman have a baby, it should be her choice. its her option
Neither, and I will not choose. I often vote 3rd party as I simply will not buy into either rhetoric.
that is very oddly split lol, most guys want the kids to stay alive, and most girls want the guns to leave, but don't care about the kids.
Abortion for sure.
An abortion guarantees a life lost every time.
Only guns in the wrong hands results in loss of innocent lives, not every gun.
Ban babies. We need stronger guns for killing babies.
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Neither. Sorry you will take my guns from my cold dead hands.
How about both , that's what needs to happen , people don't even have respect for nature to have a damn gun they should shoot themselves instead 💯😒
As a Canadian, I don't think I need to explain my choice. 😂
hahaha
This question only proves how stupid 75% of women are...
lolll
Ban neither.
I'll go with ban guns if I have to take a side though.
Well, abortion is certainly un-natural. Guns - that's a complex topic (if you could remove all the illegal ones, the legal ones would not be half as required - but that comes down to ending all crime first - and there is always some monkey who prefers to punch or shoot than to work for their meal)
Neither because I love freedom!!
Stop banning things
Obviously abortion, anyone who says guns, put your money where your mouth is and meet me at my doorstep and take it from me
Guns. Because you can't really ban guns, technologically we almost seem to be beyond the point.
guns (depends honestly), abortions are a womans right
Yes abortions are a womans right but guns are a womans right too. Police do nothing if you got save yourself our gunna need a gun.
I have a better idea: LET'S NOT BAN EITHER OF THOSE THINGS
Neither, I don’t think either is any of the gov’t’s business.
Well, I'm pro abortion. If a woman doesn't want to carry the baby she should have the option to get an abortion. I also feel like abortion should be easier for women to access everywhere
Ban neither. More dead people on an overpopulated planet is good.
Let's be clear about the difference. Guns can be used for good or bad, and sometimes they are used to kill a person.
Abortion ALWAYS kills a person.
That should answer the question.
@MCheetah Person = human being. Seems pretty clear to me.
Lmao, wow the girls on here sure do love killing babies.
Wow that is amazing girls want guns bad and guys want abortion ban. Why can't we just have both
By "Why can't we just have both" do you mean can't we have both banned or legal?
Eh, just making sure.
Abortion for sure, and this is coming from a Canadian gun laws are strict. Don’t trust US cops to have firearm power and take it away from the people.
Ban abortion. The premeditated killing of babies is simply wrong.
Let's NOT ban the one that is protected by the Constitution. That just opens the door to doing away with other Constitutional rights like freedom of speech.
second amendments exist for a reason
Because making swiss cheese out of people and animals is fun?
Because it's the last defense against tyranny. At least that's what the founding fathers would argue.
Yet when the black panthers exercised their first and second amendment rights, Reagan passed the strongest gun control act in us history.
So shut the fuck up
And besides it doesn't matter how many assault rifles you have when the prezzy can just order 25 drones to bomb you while he wanks to cp
Are you referring to the Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986? The National Rifle Association actually lobbied for passage of that legislation. It banned the ownership of fully automatic firearms, sure, but I think that was the only thing it restricted.
@michael1469 Shame that is what you think it is for. Bad people will always kill. They do not need a gun to do it. It exist, so when someone like George Floyd puts a gun to my pregnant belly I can blow the mother fucker away.
@GoCommitDespacito Are you telling me to stfu? All I said was it exists for a reason. lol "CalmYourTits"
Yeah and then you write a moronic comment just 3 minutes before this 🖕
American conservates barely fucking qualify as sentient life
@GoCommitDespacito I think you should mind your own business. Stay in the UK with your pedophilia fetish Queen and Prince.
Bro both Epstein and trump have been seen with Epstein. At least our pesos don't have political power you fucking hypocrite. Go eat your tenth burger of the hour mfker
@GoCommitDespacito LOL hahahaha
Neither my girl needed abortion and bothe me my girl carry guns. Never lacking.
I think this is an obvious choice.
I'm for the banning of Abortions. In a word, it's Murder.
Their goal was never woman empowerment as they clearly are murdering future women. No, it has always been about reducing the population. So pick your poison.
I’ll use my guns to keep my abortions.
Why ban abortions it's their body and their life so they should choose which route to take has nothing to do with someone else never understood why it's even a debate
Fetuses aren’t babies.
Abortion (guns don’t guarantee death)
Abortions, obviously.
Guns are Constitutionally protected.
Ugh, America.
Neither
Do both for all I care
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