Would you support a compromise to ban both abortion (except rape or Mom's life in danger) and the private ownership of guns?

[dmgstarfleet]

A good compromise leaves both parties unhappy. What if a "Grand Bargain" were reached where both private ownership of guns and abortion were banned? Both sides would hate it but would you be willing to accept the one in order to get the other? No name calling please.

[doopayo]

I wouldn’t. There’s no such thing as compromise when we’re talking about human rights, I have no intention of hindering a woman’s right to an abortion. I have no say in what woman does with her own body, that’s between her and her doctor.


Plus this compromise is highly unrealistic and would never work out, the same pro life crowd that want to ban abortion are pro guns and aren’t willing to give up their precious firearms

[dmgstarfleet]

I concur it is highly unlikely-so was the Compromise of 1850. Abolitionists, especially, were enraged. And I concur that the Pro-gun crowd (primarily MAGA) would never approve as they intend to impose their agenda whether the nation backs them or not (see Jan 6).

[UCrayCray]

So if a woman supports both abortion and gun rights, she would have to give up both for this to work.
Sounds like she’d be getting a raw deal, all in the name of fairness.

[dmgstarfleet]

Some people will not get their desired outcome, that's nothing new.

[UCrayCray]

True. But only women can get hit negatively by both.

[Uannoyme]

What about those that aren't trying to ban either?

[dmgstarfleet]

Some people will not get their desired outcome, that's nothing new.

[SmokinAces2000]

Neither should be banned

[dmgstarfleet]

Some people will not get their desired outcome, that's nothing new.

[Neko_Nya]

Nope

[dmgstarfleet]

Why bother to answer if you do not explain your reasons?

[Neko_Nya]

Cuz I don't have to

[dmgstarfleet]

I didn't ask why you didn't explain your reasons I asked why did you bother to answer if you didn't. Grow up.

[Neko_Nya]

"Why bother to answer if you do not explain your reasons?"

No you said this

[dmgstarfleet]

obviously you did not do well in reading comprehension-it asks why you bothered to answer. A 16 year old's childish opinion given without reason is just noise

[Pterodon]

Fuck no

[Pterodon]

Abortion is not a constitutional right. Guns are

[dmgstarfleet]

Actually, abortion IS a constitutional right under the present law. The Supreme Court might overturn that but as it stands now, it is a protected Constitutional right.

[Pterodon]

No it isn’t. Because the SCOTUS determines something isn’t always to do if something is constitutional or not. RVW was not about constitutionality

[Pterodon]

Besides for it to be constitutional there has to be an amendment PERIOD

[dmgstarfleet]

No, RvW declared a constitutional right based on the 14th Amendment. You may not like it but that is the ruling. You obviously know nothing of Constitutional jurisprudence and I suggest you cease commenting on things that just reveal your ignorance.

[Pterodon]

No it didn’t. It made it a federal law not a right. Overturning it doesn’t not automatically do away with it. It just lets the states choose. Some will obviously outlaw it while others will actually expand on it. The 2nd amendment which is a constitutional right has several states like California and Maryland enacting laws that are clearly unconstitutional but you don’t give a fuck about that

[dmgstarfleet]

Again you reveal ignorance. Laws are passed by legislatures-Congress. Tie was a constitutional pronouncement. Go to law school or just listen in any basic class on government. You are speaking on things you quite obviously do not understand.

[dmgstarfleet]

Roe, not Tie

[Pterodon]

Have fun with that