Trump received the COVID-19 vaccine in January. Does any other Trump supporter (like myself) feel betrayed, double-crossed, hoodwinked, duped or swindled?

[Anonymous]

[Meldrum]

Welcome to reality. I've known of Trump since living in NYC and his racist policies concerning his rental properties. Now it's come down to his supporters realize he's a conman, a misogynist pedophile, a traitor to his nation. I'm sorry if you've been hoodwinked but we all have had to learn about this man. He's destroying the Republican party, he tried to destroy our democracy, and if he ever gets in an office of authority, he'll work to finish the job.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Trump supporters are ignorant. Trump could shit on one of their yards and they’d find an excuse for him. It’s almost like a cult.

[loveslongnails]

It's not "almost like", it IS a cult.

[saud1998]

What about Biden supporters?

[ChefPapiChulo]

@saud1998 Biden’s following isn’t as hardcore as trumps. Trump would essentially been a dictator in a much less developed country.

[loveslongnails]

@saud1998 You're totally missing the point. No matter who you support, if they amass a track record like Trump's, you'd be a fool be keep supporting them. However, this is not unusual in politics, but Trump went so far beyond just "bad politics" it became criminal.

[nightdrot]

Very brief reply. I am not a particular fan of Mr. Trump, though I am a Republican. Moreover, to give Mr. Trump all due credit, it was his Operation Warp Speed that resulted in the invention of the vaccine and the beginning of its distribution.

It is not clear what there is to be feeling betrayed about as regards the vaccine. Mr. Trump is in the age bracket that was to be given top priority according to Federal guidelines. Not to mention that he was President. Also, unlike perhaps yourself, you may recall that he contracted the disease.

This hardly seems like a gross betrayal of some trust. Indeed, by and large, the Biden Administration has pretty much carried out the Trump program. Mr. Biden's protestations to the contrary notwithstanding.

Finally, the American system is a Federal system. The CDC issues guidelines to the state on optimum distribution of the vaccine, but it had and has no authority to make those guidelines binding. Thus many states - see also New York - went their own way and right now, as you may have seen, teacher's unions are "jumping the line." This Mr. Biden has meekly accepted with barely a whimper.

Bluntly the country is wallowing in enough unnecessary hair pulling panic mixed with self-pity. Grow up. Put on your big boy - or big girl - pants, and get on with life. Simpering in a corner whining that the "big meanie" got his shot and you did not will not accomplish anything.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

Actually Pfizer didn't tool his money to develop the vaccine. From him or any other private or public entity.
They said they would finance their own research to make sure they didn't own any "favors" to anyone.
They inclusive made a statement saying they had nothing to do with such operation.
What Trump did and well was pre order a shit ton of them.

[nightdrot]

@ThisIsMyOpinion Actually, it was not the money that was the issue. Mostly it was the streamlining of the regulatory process.

Normally, that would have stretched out the process of development and distribution into almost years. As it was, Operation Warp Speed cleared that all out and allowed Pfizer and others to move forward.

You are right, it was not a money issue. However, that does not lessen the point. If Pfizer had had to jump through all the regulatory hoops, it is not unlikely that there still would not be a vaccine.

[007kingifrit]

@ThisIsMyOpinion yes they did take "his money" they recanted that statement. you're uninformed

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@nightdrot I search ot and you are right. They did help to speed up the process of development and distribution. Fair enough then the operation did help.

@007kingifrit as far as money is concerned, no. They really didn't got a cent. But don't take it as a bad thing. They did help them with part of the process.

[007kingifrit]

@ThisIsMyOpinion that's a lie, the U. S government pre purchased 100 million pfizer doses of the vaccine for 1.95 billion

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@007kingifrit yes they did pre ordered many vaccines yes.
But that money was to buy vaccines not put into their research.

[007kingifrit]

@ThisIsMyOpinion lol what do you think enabled and justified the spending on the research? the PRE ORDER.

you either have no business sense or you're being dishonest

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@007kingifrit the millions of people begging for a vaccine across the world? The thousands of people dying? The fact that we were facing a world wide virus? Maybe that justified the research.

Also they did not need money from anyone. They were a multi millionaire company before they had the vaccine.

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@007kingifrit the German company that they had a partnership with was the only entity that also gave money to the research.

[007kingifrit]

@ThisIsMyOpinion you're making shit up now. no, the pre order helped

[ThisIsMyOpinion]

@007kingifrit look... He did all that he could. Not only he pre order lots of vaccines for his people, he also help speed up the vaccine regulatory process. That was all he could do and he did it. Props to him there.

[fjh80]

Very brief reply he says... lol

[nightdrot]

@fjh80 Compared to the fact that whole books have been written on the subject, not to mention volumes of newspaper articles and hours of television, radio and social media, mine was a brief reply. To be sure, not meant for those with short attention spans, but hardly disproportionate to the mountains of material that has already been said or written on the subject.

[Earthi]

Actually the vaccine of pfizer was invented by a german biotech company called biontech with money of the german goverment. Pfizer bought the rights to produce it in mass. Sooo that program of trump wasn't really influential for the development, more likely to help pfizer to buy the rights of that vaccine. Which is also a fuck up by the way. Because it would've been cheaper if the government bought them for all of the US and everyone who could produce it would be able by now.

[007kingifrit]

@Earthi i'm sure its vastly more complicated than that

and its ignorant to suggest the government has the expertise or knowledge to "buy a vaccine", the government does not have the expertise, technology, infrastructure, or know how to mass produce vaccines... that's why we have the private sector

[Earthi]

@007kingifrit That's not what i meant. Many Countries can confiscate the patent to a vaccine. The only one who did that was india with minor results (because they only got partial informations to produce the vaccine). Other countries bought the information needed to produce the vaccine and gave that information to the private sector in their country for free. So basically the Country bought the information and rights for producing the vaccine and outsourced the production to everyone in their country who could produce the vaccine.

The problem of course is: its very difficult to produce and you need the personal and equipment.

[OlderAndWiser]

No, not at all. Why would I feel that way?

[ObscuredBeyond]

I warned everyone that the best way to throw off the Establishment's plan was to Blankenship 2020 when they had the chance. No one would see it coming in the swamp. And he'd drain it a lot faster than Trump. Not just firing the rats, but prosecuting them too! It'd be our first real president since JFK!

He would also declare war on the Alphabet Soup gangsters in government, a war long overdue, which Trump barely put a dent in! The thugs with badges ignored Trump's tweets, and even sometimes his executive orders , and continued behaving as if Osama were still in charge! The FBI bailing out an ISIS camp in Texas and destroying evidence so these cannibals raising Islamic terror rings on our soil could casually walk free? UNFORGIVABLE!!! As was the way John Brennan and his buddies treated Millie Weaver! And Trump was too busy pardoning the impenitent felon Blagojevich! While he left innocent men like Brian D. Hill, Bob Miner, and Schaeffer Cox to rot! And while Blankenship was left to his own devices to sue the cable fake news networks run by tampon-earringed freaks for libel! Including Fox News!

Once you go Tim Brown , Bradlee Dean, and Scott Alan Buss, the rest just seem pitiful. Even Michael Savage is less aware!

Trump and Q are psy-op, so Dems can keep committing treason with impunity, while Americans are too busy believing in storms and krackens to stockpile ammo and explosives, and understand rightly what Solomon meant by a time to kill, and be prepared to give Jefferson's Tree something to drink, as the Declaration makes clear is our duty!

Now, the traitors in Congress (may vultures peck their eyes out!), want to make it illegal for you to craft a gun yourself, after they criminally shut the shops down! HR1454 must die!

And Americans more than ever need to ready the tar and feathers, and coordinate a real offensive to make the traitors scream like the damned as justice catches up! The pied piper must be paid! But instead, Americans are getting their photos taken with a golden statue of the distactor! While Osama's third term plays out. Still obsessed with raiding kindergarten to chop Johnny's dick off, and have Jane strangled on the toilet by a burly freak in a dress! All the while, a senile puppet signs one crime against the Constitution after another after another , as Osama instructs him to, inside a movie studio pretending to be the Oval Office , so that there is zero accountability! When heads need to be rolling and blood of tyrants and traitors flash flooding the streets... we get the Golden Calf instead! #MayApophisFallOnYellowstone

[BeMuse]

In general I am in favor of vaccines. As a biologist, I am not in favor of the current run of vaccines that are being distributed and administered under FDA emergency use authorization. I won’t take them period. That said every adult has to make their own decisions on how they run their own life. That includes Trump. He is man and can decide for himself. I don’t agree that everyone has to do the same thing and hold hands. I’m not a communist. I believe in freedom of choice, not group obedience. Different people have different risk factors, expected years left to live, lifestyles, etc. I do agree that the mark is pretty high to achieve heard immunity and that an effective vaccination program is necessary, but the current strategy isn’t proven to be effective or safe long term. If the evidence changes, then I might change my mind in time, but there are vaccines on the horizon that are based on better science and which will likely yield a better result. The first vaccines are a half-assed attempt at doing anything possible as quickly as possible to get the ball moving. I don’t jump out of planes with a pillow case and hope that it will work as a parachute even if it sort of resembles one.

[guesswhoseback]

Wait I thought you don’t trust the vaccine to begin with since it was developed under the Operation Warp Speed during the Trump administration. So why do you care?

But now we got magic grandpa in office I’m sure everything will magically be okay again (because the mass media says so). After all Democrat politicians are always the best among us and beyond reproach.

Just look at what Joe Biden called the “gold standard” governor Andrew Cuomo. He had such a stellar performance of shipping covid positive seniors back into nursing homes, lying about it, bullying/threatening people into silence (which might be criminal) and sexually harassing women while he is in office.

But again he was still the best of the best among governors in 2020 for one reason and one reason only: he openly criticized Trump. Seriously that’s all that matters.

When you are useful to Democrats the mass media gives you the magic pass to do whatever the hell you want. All of the sudden “follow the science” doesn’t matter (Covid is a “woke” virus and would never infect the massed of people gathering for BLM protests), empathy doesn’t matter (it’s impossible for a Trump critic to be a sociopathic bully or a rioter) and last but not least #metoo doesn’t matter. Who cares what Tara Reid has to day. Really.

[DJB72]

This was your step too far?

Seriously?

He's lied his way through 4 years in office, often about things where it was so easily checked he basically was begging to be fact-checked because there was no reason to lie - crowd size being the most obvious.

And now you're shocked & disappointed that he jumped ahead of first responders and people who have to deal with the mess he made by denying the severity of the issue to make sure he's alright?

Narcissistic Personality Disorder in that position.

[loveslongnails]

Shocking how many can disregard and ignore SO much, isn't it?

[pajamasam]

This is the kinda instinct a lot of people who never liked him could feel. I never liked him from the point he said "nuke em till the sand glows" in a 2016 republican primary.

When I heard that it I had a gut feeling he didn't have a clue what he was doing and just hyping a crowd to sell merchandise.

It doesn't surprise me at all that he sneaked and got his vaccine early even though he claimed it was all fake for so long.

I also know their are democrats doing the same shit. I hope feeling cheated doesn't ruin politics for you though every vote is important keep voting

[boombastik]

No because he has the military at his dispose to test it to make sure he knows what he is putting in his body. Also there are several different vaccines and the Sputnik IV vaccine is nothing more than a flu vaccine to give to those who are gonna take a vaccine regardless so that they have something safe that will make them feel unafraid which is fear is more deadly than the virus. So we don't know what he took but for us to take a vaccine that is killing people in minutes and causing lifelong reactions, some which are permanently disabling would be ludacris. That's if he really took it. I've seen some of the results of vaccinating and they aren't pretty. They are lying about what is doing to people.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

What I can't figure they say if one has had COVID they can't get the Vaccine for 90 days now all of sudden Trump was in the hospital with COVID from what I hear at times he couldn't breathe then he was in the hospital for 3 days then discharged so that wasn't much time now all sudden him and his wife got the Vaccine and again this makes no sense
If you can see the clear picture with Trump is he creates his own fake news so people will put this around he figures well let the media get what I created which is me and my wife got the COVID Vaccine.. He out fake news out that Biden stoled the election of 2020 no the reason why he lost is cause people are tired of an asshole in the White House he talked about creating his own third party to run in the year 2024 for US President now that was fake news so you see Trump is his own Drama King?

[fjh80]

I don’t see the problem with him getting the vaccine.
He was the president at the time. He made “operation warp speed” happen. He couldn’t NOT take the vaccine. It would have looked bad.


People are already, cautious of vaccines, especially when they come out this fast. Normally it takes years for a vaccine to be developed.

[Sabretooth]

'' in secret''.

[Anonymous]

I'm not a Trump supporter, but I try to be fair. I also don't go out of my way to bash the guy... I dunno. I just try to live my life independently of my feelings on him, or Obama, or Clinton, or George W Bush.

The issue of getting a vaccine, no matter who it was, as president would make some sense. Having earlier access to it doesn't bother me in and of itself. I'd assume most "elite" people would have access to things regular people don't, and if they're leaders of a country, I'd assume they'd be first pick to get whatever medical care they can. I'd assume Queen Elizabeth had access to all the vaccines in December. I'd assume Barron would also have that kind of access at, what, 15? Same with Pence. Same with George W Bush. Same with whoever.

That doesn't bother me much - there are other things that I feel are unjust, having access to a medicine that isn't publicly available for a month or two doesn't bug me, or at least, not on a level that other things do.

[Anonymous]

You know I don't know what's for your fucking liberal retards the motherfuker had something they're claiming covid-19 in October may have cost him the election and he has 70 years old maybe near 80 and you expect him not to take the vaccine especially after he got priority funding for it before HIV came around it would take 20 years for one drug to make it to Market 20 years that was probably the only good thing about HIV forced the FDA to get off it's fucking ass where many with HIV back then did not even have two years.

[MeghanL]

Politics aside he is an age bracket putting him in one of the first priority groups.

Another thing is (or rather was) his position. The President being incapacitated for whatever reason is not a good thing. While there are constitutional provisions to deal with such events I think everyone would agree that it's better such events do not occur.

[Anonymous]

How did this question get elevated to the top of the pile with zero context? What's your point?
During an interview, Trump was asked if he would get the vaccine. He said: "If I get it, the media will say I cut in line to get it. If I DON'T get it, they will say I'm afraid to get it. I can't win either way."

The libs said it would take 5 years to create this vaccine, but Trump got it done in under a year. And now the libs are taking credit for something they never wanted to happen.

[supercutebutt]

I am a proud Trump supporter who also feels betrayed :( President Trump told us the virus was a hoax and that wearing a mask is stupid. I guess he is a liar. I wouldn't be surprised if the Proud Boys turned on Donald. Seriously. I mean why should the patriotic heroes of January 6th have to rot in jail for the insurrection that President Trump himself asked us to do for him? Not cool. :(

[yofuknutz]

Everybody get sold out sooner or later that's the way it is you have to be prepared for

[RingOfFire]

You feel feel "betrayed, double-crossed, hoodwinked, duped or swindled" by the man who saved you and all of civilization from the Communist Red Chinese bio terrorist attack with his record setting Operation Warp Speed and the fastest most successful vaccine development in history (an accomplishment many "experts" said wasn't even possible right from the start)?

You may want to think that through.

[Levin]

I don't get your question.

Trump was in favour of a vaccine as a strategy out of what was happening.

Also, Trump never had a sense of moral right or a coherent firm belief emanating from a deep place. He'd get swept up in whatever fancy. Therefore, the shite he came out with was pretty irrelevant noise, really.

[loveslongnails]

Very true. Trump has NEVER in his life had a moral compass. Seeing him hold up a Bible makes me want to puke. Even common decency is beyond him, but what else should you expect from the guy who denied the virus was going to be a problem, and thought it would just "go away"?

[NamerOfStars]

I'm not really what you'd call Trump "supporter", but I did vote for him- and no, I don't feel betrayed, double-crossed, hoodwinked, duped or swindled. Not by this, anyway; he's the guy who authorized Operation: "Disregard Logic and Medical Ethic"- er, "Warp Speed" in the first place. Plus, the guy's in his seventies and not exactly in the best of health generally.

[abc3643]

I'm not sure that this is true and it might actually be a case of "fake news" for once.

Considering that former President Trump had COVID-19 and got sick and recovered before January 2021, he'd have the anti-bodies in his system so that he wouldn't need the vaccine.

[abc3643]

I guess it's real...
www.forbes.com/.../?sh=372bbd057950

[Anonymous]

wait. so you're mad because he didn't make a big public spectacle of it like Biden did? Trump has repeatedly said it's up to everyone to decide if they want the vaccine or not. Or did you forget the facts because you watch too much brainwashing mainstream bullshit media. You can watch any number of Trump's speeches and hear him say those words himself. But something tells me you've got a bad case of TDS. Did you want him to force the American people to take the vaccine? You are aware that would be unconstitutional, correct? Or am I giving you far too much credit? He probably also pooped several times over the last 4 years without making a global announcement.