Is “Cancel Culture” today’s equivalent of book burning?

[Jersey2]

Society has started “burning books” again with Cancel Culture and the destruction of other ideas

No, other ideas are not allowed if we disagree with them

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And now they go after films:

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[doopayo]

Cancel culture doesn’t exist in the form that most people believe it to exist in, a lot of people believe that cancel culture exists and say it lasts forever and ruins peoples careers. I believe this is true but it only extends for a certain period or moment of time before people just stop caring about the issue.


An example I’ll give of this is Ellen degenerse, I’m not sure if I spelt her name right but I don’t care if i didn’t spell her name right because she’s a horrible person.


She treats her employees like absolute shit and has an extremely big ego. I’m not gonna go into much detail since this is old news so if you’re interested feel free to do some research yourself, plenty of resources are on YouTube. She was outed for a while and her apology wasn’t well received however she still has her show and everything.


Canceling is something that happens for a period of time, but the most important thing I believe can be taken out of cancel culture is for example in the old days the majority of canceling was done by the rich and powerful so the middle class and lower class had virtually no say, if the rich said you where a witch you’re getting burned to steak no matter what. They didn’t have the power to overthrow the rich but with cancel culture now a days it’s evolved into a thing where now anybody can be canceled. The rich and influential now aren’t protected from being canceled and can now therefore be held accountable for their actions.


A good video that explains this can be found here

https://youtu.be/tykqQcA09ko

[Jersey2]

It’s not a short term thing when you can’t find a job because a quick google search shows all the hateful messages that were posted about you at the time. Then it becomes very current for the reader and no job for you. Ellen will walk into a restaurant in 20 years and people in the restaurant will start to whisper about what she did. She is cancelled for life but we will talk about other things in the meantime. No one will watch her future shows. But she was one to cancel others so is the shoe fits wear it.

The rich didn’t kill the witches. Actually it was other young girls in Salem spreading rumors about women. It actually is the same thing as today’s cancel culture.

Great points though.

[loveslongnails]

I disagree. If you can't get hired by an employer because they are influenced by a Google search and found "hateful messages", you probably don't want to work for them in the first place. There are still libel and defamation laws in place too.

[btbc92]

It really all depends on the intent from both sides. There are people who publish things to change society in demonic ways. Then you have people who are trying to protect their children from it. Then you have things tossed on your child in school '"Catcher and the Rye", but don't want you to teach anything of God in school, or not allowed to have in school. Your forced either way. Cancel Culture from what I am gathering is trying to use "morals" to cancel out something that may have shouldn't have been done from the BEGINNING. NOW that it has escalated all of a sudden it's not acceptable. Porn is everywhere on social media, you can't do anything about it. But they want to "cancel" Dr. Suess's books? This is crazy. I don't even agree with everything. But I mean, really? I don't even want to know what is next.

[okeydoke]

No one cancelled the Dr. Seuss books. They’re just no longer recommended for children due to egregiously insulting caricatures of Asian, Black, and Arabic people.

[modelUN242]

Yeah, exactly.

[Caunsos]

You claim cancel culture is useing "morals" but they seem have completed forgotten the moral value of forgiveness. Willing to attack someone for transgressions that person has already repented for it in the past.

Also it not schools place to teach god its church's places. If you want your kid to learn about god take them to church.

[btbc92]

And this is why this country is failing, a laughing gag in other countries, is hardly even respected anymore, and people are dying and going tp hell everyday.

The church is not the building. The church is the people. That's why they killing out people not Church buildings. You going to soon learn that the only churches that's going to be standing basically when it come down to buildings or places that's already sold themselves out the NWO system. It is schools place to teach that, they have done so since my grandmother coming before that, it is no difference now. They refused to do so because they know that is power in the things of God and in the name of Jesus. You think is religion and it's not religion. Why do you think all this stuff is happening because they are trying to cause more issues. How long would you want to talk about completely forgotten the moral value of forgiveness and you're doing is talking about is not schools place to teach God oh, and how is the church? As somebody who grew up in the 90s and experience both things I can safely tell you you are wrong on so many levels. Without having the foundation of God Church, those children don't have any place to go to. Churches don't like you, the schools don't like you, then why you are left isolated and by yourself. You cannot see my child because I have different belief in you. And you should not sing the parents for having a decision of wanting to have their children grow up in a place of a solid foundation and you don't even have it in your own home.

But somebody like yourself are not even that educated about it.

[btbc92]

@okeydoke

Again, we will see this stuff go on every single day regardless. And first of all saying how is no longer recommended for children isn't going to help those children. They still going to be seeing and witnessing these things every single day. When I read similar books like that I didn't see it as that. My innocent mind at the time did not look at it like that. To tell you the truth most children would not even be affected by looking at that. They will only be so if they are around things that's really pointed out in a manner that a child can easily absorb, and it doesn't help with the parents add on to that mess either. I have not seen any of that stuff regarding to any so-called black person, let alone Asian or Arabic people. If people would stop be teaching the kids a black and white person, a lot of people would not be having this issue because at the end of the day there's no such thing as race. We as human beings are One race in general. You start teaching your kids all the stuff that don't even matter you can't teaching the difference and they will grow up in the same so cool world that have racism in it to begin with the courage of feeding into it. Unless a child ask you certain questions then you address it. You do not have to hide all this other stuff unless for obvious reasons. If it's hyper sexualized and there are things that is inappropriate if that's the case you need to get rid of Disney you also because it shows all that also. You going to need to get rid of a lot of cartoons, a lot of video games, a lot of other stuff also if you want to do stuff like that. There is no point if you're not even going to teach your kids right from wrong. I was told to stay away from a lot of things growing up for a good reason. As an adult I never got to make my own decisions if I'm going to expose myself to those things or not. You cannot go around doing all that stuff have it published as I said before and then all of a sudden you don't want it around.

[btbc92]

It should have never been done in the first place. But then you people be saying how is your free will and your right to indulge in anything you please. That also includes pornography and erotic material. That's wrong you shouldn't be watching it, but you're an adult you can make your own choices. But then if we say we say you want to learn how religious we are. Make up your mind because the hypocrisy is real.

[Caunsos]

@btbc92 having a lot of words dose make your arguments more valid. I invite you to clarify what the point you are trying to make is.

As your claim of growing in the 90s give your personal experience validity, do know i too grew up in the 90s and based on the age on your profile i have better memory of the 90s as i was 5 in 1990 and you were possibly born in 1990 or 91. By your standard 90s experience make my experience more valid than yours.

Next defining a church as a community instead of a physical building doesn't invalidate my point. For my argument Church and schools are a settings. Weather they a setting composed of a physical building or a community of people their function in society remains the same. School (k-12) function it to educate children on the topics reading writing math science and social studies. The only time religions should be cover is in regard to they roll in history. Religious ideology is something to be learned about in church.

If you want learning about Christian ideology in school how you feel if they had to also learn about Jewish ideology or Muslim, or buddhism, or Taoism or any of the other number of religions that are practiced.

[btbc92]

God is in control. Of you people want to play God, then stop complaininv. It's not religion and it's not religious ideologies. Are they understand that all learned the hard way. It's not religion. If people was taught the right way how to live life right we wouldn't be in this mess. That's what you seem to forget I don't want to seem to understand. You know what I mean by 90s meaning I started to see in the downfall in the turn of our society starts to have a problem with it my parents don't know has nothing to do with this. After do with the reality you yourself don't seem to understand for somebody who wants to claim was 5 years old. Again, enough what religion. It's not about having a lot of words about having the fact. And you're not making a fact. What you're showing is proving my point. You were taught wrong about things about life this is why we have cancel culture going on.

[btbc92]

Oh no, you too caught up with religion that's why you have this issue separating that it has nothing to do about a community of people. It has something to do about you as an individual. Your body supposed to be a temple. I can tell you we don't even know half of the stuff even talkin about. We are not learning ideologies we are learning about how to live our life. Look how you choose to live your life and please tell me where is it benefiting you.

[okeydoke]

You literally wrote walls of indecipherable word vomit. I don’t understand almost anything you wrote.

[btbc92]

I did not word vomit.

Turn to God and stop playing games with life. It's as simple as that. Is nothing confusing about what I had to say. Stop assuming everything is religion and stop being brainwashed with that nonsense they want to tell you trying to tell you how God don't exist when he does exist. He's not playing games down here. And anything that happens is going to be left on you to figure it out. Because time is running out. And this old whole world is falling apart. Wake up.

[btbc92]

Its a reset.

[btbc92]

This is what you people wanted.

[okeydoke]

I’m Jewish.

[btbc92]

Your Jewish. But are you saved?

[btbc92]

Do you know Yeshua hamashiach? Do you know Elohim? Do you have the Holy Spirit? Are you born again? Or are you saved?

[okeydoke]

I’m Jewish. Not a Christian, evangelical or Messianic.
Yeshua (Jesus) isn’t a part of Judaism.

[btbc92]

You realize that is not going to get you to heaven if you are not saved?

[okeydoke]

Judaism doesn’t have heaven and hell, so no skin off my back.

[btbc92]

Yeshua is in everything that is of God. So yes he is there. You just don't believe that he is. But that is not going to get you to heaven if you are not saved. Does it matter if your Christian Evangelical Masonic or whatever you want to call yourself. You must be saved and you must be born again. That's it. Genealogies is not going to help you.

[btbc92]

The fact that you actually think that really makes me question all you even Jewish.
Because what you're telling me is that all you have is religion but you don't know anything about heaven or hell so please explain to me how does this have anything to do with what we're talking about? By the you know that God exists or according to you is how the way you view God? Which is it because this is very confusing of you.

[okeydoke]

Genealogies? What are you talking about?

I’m not going to convert. So thanks, but no thanks.

[btbc92]

I didn't say anything about conversion. I ain't here to convert you. You make your own choices. What I am trying to figure out is what do you mean by saying you're Jewish. Because when you say that either you're saying you of religion or you're just Jewish by label.

[btbc92]

Because no matter how you see it I'm just telling you how it is. Because you can't talk about God and you don't know God for yourself.

[okeydoke]

Heaven and Hell are Christian and Muslim concepts. You don’t know much about Torah and nothing about Talmud if you think Olam Haba refers to heaven or is considered a reason to conduct ourselves in a certain way.

[btbc92]

I'm sorry to break it to you buddy. They're not Concepts. They are very real places. You really do not know what you're talkin about. They're not Concepts they are actual places where you may end up going if you are not saved.

[btbc92]

You don't want to see what hell looks like. Some people you see walking around is already there and their minds. I highly suggest you know what you're talk about because from what you're saying it tells me that you've been doing nothing but religion but you haven't been taught to actual basic Foundation of the real things is going on around you. And trust me when I say is going to happen sooner than you think, what people's eyes are going to be forced opened to be seeing a lot of things that's going to be coming through into this world. It's already been happening and you're not even paying attention.

[okeydoke]

i am both culturally, genealogically, and religiously Jewish. I used to work as a Jewish educator. We don’t believe in “being saved”. And we certainly don’t think Jesus was the messiah. And we don’t believe in heaven or hell. You clearly don’t know anything about Judaism.

[btbc92]

Sigh. Know what I can tell is that your carnal-minded and you've been taught of a concept of religion but you don't understand exactly what you've been teaching or here. That I can very much say. I kind of figured you had cultural in you. But I doubt your religiously Jewish. So no I know very much innocence what your belief system is. You're stuck with the Old Testament ways but I can tell that you haven't really been taught much on it. But I'll tell you now that way of thinking is what leads you to hell. Because you being Jewish is not going to really do much if you're not saved. If you don't think that Jesus is the Messiah if you don't believe in being saved then you're already stuck. You're educating something you don't even know.

[btbc92]

You have no idea how very much of a big responsibility you have on people's Souls right now because you're educating something is going to damn people to hell. And I'm not here to try to blame you I'm here to wake you up. You're free to do whatever it is that you choose to do in this life and then close and what you personally believe in. But I am seriously honestly asking you to please rethink about what you're saying.

[btbc92]

Because even the Torah has power when it comes to the word of God. And you need to be careful how you choose to use it.

[okeydoke]

😂 I spent 18 years in religious day school studying Torah, Prophets, and Jewish Law. I know the hell out of my Tanakh (old testament+ Psalms).
You just don’t know about our views.
And you’re being antisemitic. Which is pretty old school not cool.

[btbc92]

No, im not. I know about what you've used. You spent 18 years in religious day school. Studying the Torah. Spend 18 more years getting to know being in the presence of God. That's not being anti-semitic. That's just telling you the truth. Because what you're saying and what you're showing is that you prune the word of God to be true. Even you people hated your own. And that was Jesus.

[okeydoke]

There is no hell and heaven in the Torah.

[btbc92]

I love the Jewish people. And I have love for all of God's creation. I have Jewish friends who themselves became Christian. And I can safely tell you that they would say that that's not being Godly of you. And nothing of what I say it's anti sematic I'm only telling you what the word of God says. What the Bible says. Since you don't believe in the Bible, I'm not surprised you actually think of that.

[btbc92]

It is Heaven and Hell in the Torah. You're too blind to see that. If you were so educated you would know that more than half of the Bible comes from the Torah. Not just the ancient Scrolls what was written in Aramaic.

[okeydoke]

Wow! The last statement there was old Catholic style antisemitism. Hard core.
Jews are not fond of Christians telling them they’re going to hell for killing Jesus and to convert. Which is exactly what you’re saying.

You’re a bad person.

[btbc92]

No I'm not. I'm not being anti-Semitic. It's right there in the word of God. If you don't even want to read that much then what does that have to do with me? I know my place in God. I know my place in Christ. Did I say that you were going to go to hell for Killing Jesus? No. I told you exactly, exactly what is the reality. And no not all Jews are like you because I know there are many sects of Jewish people. That's just somebody like you who takes offense because you have so much pride and ego in you.

[okeydoke]

Jews who become Christians aren’t Jews. They’re Christians. Meaning you have Christian friends.

[btbc92]

That's the problem you have so much pride you are so blind to the thing that you do with your own people. And this time I'm not talkin about Jesus I'm talking about people that's right around you your own family's you're in your own temples, you do the same thing. Your people like the rest of us and you're no different than the rest of us. You may be God's chosen people, but you don't even see how you carry yourself. Not to do with Catholics. I have nothing to do with them. But truth is truth.

[okeydoke]

I know. The Christian bible. The Jewish bible, the Tanakh, just includes the Old Testament, Prophets, and Psalms.

[btbc92]

No I have sisters and brothers in Christ. They are Jew in heart and Gentile in body. Jew and Gentile become one flesh. If you read the Bible you would know that.

[okeydoke]

Jews for Jesus are Christians. Christianity is literally Judaism severely altered to follow Jesus.

[btbc92]

Jew who you are on the inside it is not your flesh. That means, as long as you are a creation of God, and you are a child of God, and you convert into the things of God, you're Jew. Even I just learned it.

[btbc92]

And Jesus have said follow me. Do you know that you're supposed to get to your own new body? It's not Judaism severely altered. It is the creation of a New Covenant. Christianity now if you want to talk about that you can think the Catholics for that. But the Gospel of Jesus is the word of Truth. But because you did not want to hear the truth, then how can the truth be in you? Or do you read in vain?

[btbc92]

You have no idea how very serious this is. Do you want to sleep think God cares about on us doing stuff down here? Know he doesn't. He cares about one thing and one thing only. You're so. Whether you're saved or not, whether you going to serve him or are you going to serve Mammon because you cannot Serve Yourself. And you cannot save yourself. How many times have God divorced Israel because of disobedience and adultery? How many times have God had to rectify problems because of sin? Or do you think Abraham's bosom is going to last forever? Whatever it is that you are seeking Jesus already holds the keys. This world is soon to pass away, and the kingdoms that are in it. Either it will be converted into the kingdom of God or it is going to fall as Revelation says. God still reaches out to the Jewish people as he reaches out to all nations of the world. But it's simply your choice. But he's not tolerating all that stuff down here.

[okeydoke]

We (Jews religiously and culturally) do not believe that Jesus is important, the messiah, the son of God, the bringer of a New Covenant, or anything else. We do not concern ourselves with Jesus and are not interested.
It’s amazing to me that you don’t even see how egregiously antisemitic you are.

[btbc92]

No that's what you believe because I operate in the things of God the same God as you claim that you serve and yet you do not respect. I don't believe in an anti-semitic nonsesne because I'm not of the world.

[okeydoke]

“I’m not of the world”? What does that even mean? 😂😭

[btbc92]

I'm not like you people. Carnal minded full of hate.

[btbc92]

Can't fellowship with a person who takes God for granted.

[okeydoke]

I’m not full of hate. I just know my religion that I’ve been studying and working in for decades.

[btbc92]

You are full of hate. You are literally full of hate you don't even see your own self. Oh you guys religion but you don't got God!

[okeydoke]

That’s fine. We don’t want your god. We just want you to leave us alone.

[btbc92]

No light in that hard-hearted body of yours! Full of Darkness. We're not even bothering you but is very clear you're the one that bothered by it.

[okeydoke]

You’ve told me at least 20 times now that I’m going to hell because I don’t accept Jesus.

[btbc92]

Read in Matthew! I did not have to say it, Jesus already said it in the word of God and you don't even accept him!

[btbc92]

And I did not tell you 20 times. I told you at least three times. Anything else but I guess after that I asked so I can get an idea where your mentality is. Now I know where your mentality is. It's toxic I don't see the point you're embarrassing your own people. I have met some really good Jews that don't behave and act like yourself. A complete embarrassment.

[okeydoke]

We don’t read Matthew. We’re Jewish.
I didn’t insult you about your religion or tell you to change your beliefs. You’re angry at me because I’m turning away your religion and pointing out your bigotry.

[btbc92]

Buddy. This is how ridiculous you sound. I don't got religion. I got Jesus. You getting mad at me because of what I told you what Jesus said. You say you don't read Matthew. Shame on you. Maybe you better read instead of assuming about a person. Know I'm angry at the fact that you want to try to push your foolishness me and you're the one that has bigotry not me. Everything you want to say about me that's who you are yourself as a person. And you being Jewish have nothing to do with it. That's just who you are as a person and I highly doubt you was taught to be that kind of person. You must be born again. I did not say that. Jesus had said this multiple times. I'm only repeating back what was already written long before I was even born before you was even in existence. That's why I said you got hatred. You got so much hate when you want to talk about how you're so cold turning away my religion when I'm not even dumping religion on you. You're just mad and bitter as a person.

[btbc92]

You yourself better with something instead of speaking stuff in ignorance.

[okeydoke]

Or maybe, just maybe, you stop trying to convert people and leave them alone. I haven’t insulted you, but you keep on insulting me.
Keep your religion to yourself.

[btbc92]

Better read something*

Your level of response is not only disrespectful it is highly inappropriate. How the heck are you going to be teaching and educating something and you don't even know that much? I think at this point you just need to leave my comment feed because you're just embarrassing yourself. And I do not appreciate the way how you're talkin to me when I have done nothing towards you to warrant that kind of response

[btbc92]

You don't go around trying to tell me what to do. God is in control and he told me what I need to do. You don't like what I got to do, then you stay away from me. You're the one that used to come on my feed so therefore the devil operates in you. I don't have to try to convert anybody. That wasn't even my intent to begin with. Need to go get yourself some help. And I already told you for the last time already I don't have religion. I have Jesus and I have who I am in God. You're the one that keeps on insulting me and I highly suggest you stop. Before I have you blocked.

[okeydoke]

I actually have no idea what I said that offended you so greatly. 😂
Was it when I told you to stop trying to convert people or when I told you to stop telling me I’m going to hell?

[btbc92]

You behaving like an a**! Now you got to have a 😂 thinking that is funny! I don't care what personal problems you have you take it up with God do not drag your baggage on to me call me auntie some medic and it's like I'm going to tolerate your BS. Now get off my comment feed, before I have you blocked!

[btbc92]

Calling me anti-Semitic*

You don't tell me what to do. The person that is anti-semitic is yourself and you supposed to be so Jewish. Ridiculous. No real Jew speaks like you!

[okeydoke]

You can’t blame your bad behavior on god. And Christianity is a religion. Like hundreds of others.
I haven’t insulted you or your religion. Yet you just called me the devil. How deeply ironic.

[okeydoke]

You ARE being anti-semitic. It’s not an insult. It’s an observation of your attitudes and actions.

I am Jewish. Should I have invited you to a Megilah reading on Purim last week to prove it? Do you even know what those words mean?

[btbc92]

I don't got no bad behavior you better look at your crazy a**. I find it to be an embarrassment how you call yourself or do and you act like like you're below dirt! Behaving dishonorably to all and bringing dishonor to your family. I know you are of your father the devil you are not of God. Nobody never said cuz she had his religion buddy. I'm a Child of God. Not what you're talkin about. And I will tell you no more I do not have religion. Get that checked in your head. I do not have religion I have gone. I have Jesus. You don't like it? Go kick rocks I do not care.

[btbc92]

Oh I do understand what that means and it ain't who you claim yourself to be. I am being anti-Semitic. Because if you try to invite me anywhere I'll tell them exactly who the hell you are. How the hell you treat me, how you see me. And you just respect everyone around you. I rather be around them then to be anywhere around you.

[btbc92]

So don't talk about Purim or megillah and you don't even have in your heart. You're too religious for that.

[okeydoke]

People who follow Jesus are by definition Christians. And Christianity is a religion. That’s the the English language and nomenclature.
You now you’ve cursed at me, called me the devil, told me I’m going to hell, and tried to convert me.

Didn’t Jesus say to turn the other cheek?

[btbc92]

I know about the Book of Esther! I have read and study it well. I think you better look at yourself in the mirror before you want to talk about Purim. Don't talk about God's love and you don't even accept it.

[btbc92]

Ian caring about some definition. I didn't curse at you. I told you exactly what you're being and that is being what I told you. I said you are of the devil. I did not call you the devil. I said you are of the devil. Learn simple English if you want to what English language so much. And I told you already it tells you right there in the Book of Matthew area so I'll talk about how I told you that you're going to hell when that's exactly what the word of God says Eric I don't tell me how I'm trying to convert you when I never try to convert you. Go get your head checked. And I highly suggest you know what that word means about turning the other cheek. Because next you going to try to cut off my head.

[btbc92]

The word of God already said that. That's you don't read the book of Matthew Pierce's you don't want to read the Bible, don't talk about how I'm trying to convert you, don't talk about how I told you you're going to hell because you didn't whatever it's already there in the word of God. The way how you behave is as I said before I'd only embarrassing and you're an embarrassment to the Jewish people. At that point I don't judge them. Any for me to be judging anybody. But by your fruit I could tell you're not Jewish at heart you just Jewish in flesh.

[btbc92]

Learn from Hadassah, she's a real Jew! Respectful, honorable, obedient. All in the image of God!

[okeydoke]

Ironically god isn’t an active character in Megilat Esther. You called me an ass. And, unless you meant donkey, it is a curse. And you censored yourself, making me suspect that you think it’s a bad word.

It’s amazing the mental gymnastics someone has to do to explain away bad behavior and use religion to justify it.

[btbc92]

Have you fallen so short that you have forgotten the days of old! That's why I like the older Jews more because a lot of you young ones are very disrespectful and you think you know everything.

[okeydoke]

Ah yes. Nothing says “I’m not bigoted” like pulling a “you people” statement.

[btbc92]

That's not a curse. That is fact! And you using God with a lower "g" and you want to say he's not an active character? Talk about disrespect. And no I didn't send them myself, I just do not find the point and me having to actually go that far. And secondly you have to censor yourself on here, because anything you say can get taken down. Which also tells me you don't know nothing about the website's rules. You are not allowed on this site to display profanity without logical reason.

You're the bigot, not me. You're using words you don't even know the definition of.

[okeydoke]

Go reread Esther. You have Haman, Mordecai, Estcher. Ahashverosh, and Vashti. God literally doesn’t play an active role in the story.

[okeydoke]

I meant every word I’ve said.

[btbc92]

No you need to go read in your Torah and have some respect for the Creator. I don't need you to tell me go re-read after I know that God is active and all things. He does play an active role and it's not a story. The fact that you are a so called you and you disrespect God. You disrespect your culture, you disrespect your community, you disrespect your family, you disrespect yourself, you disrespect your traditions, and you disrespect your ancestors. Not only where you being racist towards me because I'm not Jewish you're prejudiced towards me because I'm a Christian woman. And been a bigot and on top of that you don't even know half of the stuff you're saying!

[btbc92]

God does not always need to be mentioned in order for you to feel and know his presence. You can literally see his presence and the Book of Esther. You're the one that took offense of me because it's the truth. I never once took offense of you saying certain things about what you have not have been shown up for it. But you yourself had shown and proven to me you have no desire to learn except for what you want to know. You obviously do not care! I would have no doubt even your teachers would have been happy with you. If they want to hear how you're talkin to me, what you're saying to me, how you're behaving you would have been reprimanded. And I would not blame them.

[btbc92]

I can tell right now you don't even understand the Book of Esther. Which also leads me to assume you know nothing of the things you teach. You're just reading things you know nothing about.

[okeydoke]

Most Jewish bible scholars don’t take all bible stories literally. Megilat Esther is one that is difficult to prove the historicity of.
Thank you for a pretty profound insult on my character and role in my community. Awfully kind of you.

I’m mot sure how I’ve been racist against you. Considering I have no idea what your race is. And I didn’t discriminate against you for being a Christian. I told you to stop discriminating against me and other Jews.

[btbc92]

I never was discriminated you. But you have done so to me. So enough is enough. No you insulted your stuff and you embarrassed yourself. So no it's awfully kind of you for showing me who you are.

[okeydoke]

Say what? What is there not to understand about Esther?

[btbc92]

You better go back and everything you wrote because you're a liar.

[okeydoke]

😶 😂
This would be hilarious if it weren’t so disheartening and disappointing.

[btbc92]

You're going to find out what is so hilarious when it's too little too late. I pray for your salvation, but I'm done. I'm not getting treated like dirt.

[Caunsos]

If god is in control how is he being forced out of schools. It almost like your god is not all powerful. And it is your god because it only exists in your head. You think other people share your god that he is everyone's god. And i know they is is no all powerful all knowing and all loving beings that want a relationship with me because i dont believe in it.

[btbc92]

You don't want him. So he will be where is wanted and anything that ends up problems. You have no idea how very serious you people do not see the situation is. I promise you now everything you think, you got to look at yourself. You think that he only exist in people's heads I can safely tell you he exists more than just people's minds. Even in your own children long before they are born. You people are just bitter and upset. It's crazy how you want to blame him for everything and meanwhile he the first thing you want to talk about, but according to you if you don't exist. Can't blame somebody who supposedly don't exist. Don't know y'all people know he exists, you just mad at you are too caught up in your own since you don't want to change. And then when somebody dies, when somebody gets hurt, with somebody and it would have problem, who do you want to blame instead of blaming yourself? You want to blame God.

[Caunsos]

How can i blame something that is not the real. I blame people like you for letting you concept of reality so twisted that simple act of having a conversation is impossible.

[btbc92]

You need to grow up and have respect for who wants to serve God and do right to him. You want to talk about concept of reality being Twisted you better look around you because you're the one that's twisting it. Stop blaming people of God for something that you allow on what you choose to do. This is not a simple Act of having a conversation this is you being rude and you being nasty. You don't want to serve God and you do what you do. That's what you want you are free to do it. Leave the rest of us alone who don't want to bother with your nonsense. Do you want to talk about where God so much God has always been involved in people's lives even when you personally think he in it. You're the one that don't want him in your heart you make that very clear. Especially since you want to end up saying how he only exists in my head. I highly suggest you really think about that since you want to act like you really intelligent.

[btbc92]

I can have conversations with any person that designs to have a conversation with me. The problem with people like you is that you're not somebody that's one for conversation with cuz all you want to do is start fights, debates, and arguments. What makes it even worse you can't even learn that have an intelligent one.

[LegacyRXT]

@Caunsos religion omegalul

[btbc92]

Y'all people keep on making fun of those that is truly of God. I ain't talkin about any religion here I'm talking about the real deal. You people want to continue on with this stuff than y'all do what y'all do. Stop complaining about how God supposedly isn't doing anything, and this is what you wanted.

[zagor]

@okeydoke Do you think it was flattering the goofy way white people are depicted in those books?

[Alexandrubaschet08]

! ATTENTION!
"Dort wo man Bücher verbrennt, verbrennt man auch am Ende Menschen" - "Where books are burned, people will eventually be burned". These are the words of the 19th century German author Heinrich Heine, from the play Almansordin 1821-1822. Heine had no way of knowing that a century later, in May 1933, his books - considered "anti-German" - would be burned at the stake in a market in Berlin and that in a few years after that, millions of people will be gassed and cremated in German concentration camps in the name of the German spirit and purity of blood.

[Jersey2]

Very true. It seems to be going down the same path.

[Hermes-Paris]

Cancel culture is just another form of hate. It's been going on for thousands of years and will continue to be a part of humanity well into the future. Neanderthals didn't just die out. They were canceled. The Romans canceled most of whom they conquered. The Christians canceled the Romans. The Muslims canceled the Christians. The Christians canceled the Muslims. I see nothing different here. Those who are doing the canceling today will have their ideas and culture canceled in 60 years. Enough lecturing for today. I'm off to get a beer! I hope someone cancels my tab!

[Jersey2]

I think far less than 60. 20 at most. Enjoy your beer!

[Hermes-Paris]

Thanks Jersey2. I am enjoying a nice IPA on tap! Happy Friday Evening!

[goaded]

"... grassroots anti-Dixie Chicks backlash. It began with thousands of phone calls flooding country-music radio stations from Denver to Nashville—calls demanding that the Dixie Chicks be removed from the stations’ playlists. Soon some of those same stations were calling for a boycott of the recent Dixie Chicks’ album and of their upcoming U. S. tour."
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/the-dixie-chicks-backlash-begins

Did you know that the authorisation for the National Guard to intervene on Jan 6th was slow-walked by people at the Pentagon? That's what all this pearl-clutching about "cancel culture" (aka people choosing not to buy a product) is all about; to distract from the news.

[goaded]

Can you really not tell the difference between a mass of people being told what someone has done and individually deciding not to support them any more, and one person telling people that they shouldn't support someone any more?

[Jersey2]

Jan 6th was a protest. No mass shootings, no burning, no executions. It was signs, flags, chanting and a few windows broken.

[goaded]

... and a couple of hundred police injured, and the national guard called for, but not deployed for hours because of obstruction in the Pentagon. Then, police, and even, possibly, congresspeople coordinating with the attackers. Isn't it more important to listen to the investigation into the attempted overthrow of the democratic process, rather than a decision not to keep re-printing century-old books?

[goaded]

THE CAT IN THE HAT IS SAFE, PEOPLE! Go watch the investigation into the attack on the Capitol!

[goaded]

So, the films are still being shown, but with extra commentary?

[loveslongnails]

Does social media have the "right" to govern its own content, just as a news station does, or are they required to accept and post all points of view? How much of that is governed by "free speech", and what "kind" of free speech are we talking about? We haven't answered those questions fully yet, and even when we do, it won't satisfy everyone.

"Cancel culture" is a catch-all phrase for too many different things. And why all the fuss now? Hasn't THIS "cancel culture" idea been legal for years, and still is with certain restrictions (1964 Federal anti-discrimination act and individual state acts against protected classes): "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" ?

[Jersey2]

Because it is out of control. It is head spinning nonsense at a rapid pace going through 20 year old text, comedian jokes, differing opinions on sexuality, differing opinions on race or anything else, children’s books, movies, school curriculum, university speakers, toy store aisle markings, it’s nuts! It’s nuts, that’s why.

[loveslongnails]

I agree it's gone overboard in some areas, and it seems like a waste of time. It's yet another knee jerk reaction to try and satisfy every single person's viewpoint. If you were to watch some of the commercials from the 1950's you'd be saying "holy fuck", as well as some of the TV shows.

[sp33d]

I can see the analogy, but I wouldn't exactly call cancel culture an equivalent of purging anything and everything that is even remotely opposed to some ideology - e. g the book burning by the nazis. The most that cancel culture achieves is labelling, but try as they might, there is no purging. We are not collectively any closer to accepting the ideas forced on us. Cancel culture creates turmoil, (as if there wasn't any, but I digress..) a group of individuals might be targeted because of X, Y, Z, but that's the extent of it.

[Jersey2]

They burn people’s careers and literally cancel shows. Now they are after children’s books and films. It’s a never ending purge of whatever suits them.

[RingOfFire]

"Is “Cancel Culture” today’s equivalent of book burning?"

Yes, it is about installing totalitarian government. First you censor any speech that doesn't support the dictatorship, then you take away their means to defend themselves, then you install the dictator.

It seems like every generation has to learn the same lesson all over again (and often the hard way).

The Democrats have thrown in with totalitarianism. One by one they are trying to take away our rights. First burn our books, then take our guns, then put us in concentration camps.

[Jersey2]

I think you are right.

[Caunsos]

There many similarly but they many key differences.

Book Burnings are typically organized by a governing bodys to control the populous. A cancel mod can be formed by any one very often by people that no status to loss.

Book burning would target books and ideas and some level authors. Canceling targets people and will use anything to justify the canceling.

Book Burning with not engage with material of the Burning. Cancel mob will engage with the target inorder to document and persevere the targets wrongdoings.

[Jersey2]

I think the Internet Mob is the new driving force. They decide what is allowed. The US government, Biden’s Administration, cancelled the books out of a government sponsored reading program. The tail wages the dog now.

[modelUN242]

Keep all paper copies of it before the Internet wipes them out. I'm definitely homeschooling my kids, it's much worse now compared to when I graduated in 2018.

[goaded]

I bet you've never even seen those particular books. Nobody's getting rid of The Cat in the Hat!

[modelUN242]

@goaded I have and read them as a kid.

[goaded]

Which ones stopped getting published, then? And who decided?

[modelUN242]

@goaded Donno, I'm not really upset by this but just a suggestion.

[Kas19]

@goaded 6 Books were removed by the Dr. Seuss Estate. Their decision.

[Jersey2]

@Kas19 Kinda like their decision with a gun to their head so let’s not pretend.

[Kas19]

@Jersey2 Wym? Who forced them to do it? I haven't found anything on that.

[Jersey2]

@Kas19 As soon as they were getting blacklisted from the government and others they did it. That contained the damage to the overall brand.

[Kas19]

Blacklisted? Hm, I didn't see anything about that. Do you mind sending me a link or something?

I think I interpret it differently because I grew up reading Dr. Seuss. They removed the few older books that were racist or whatever, understandable, no big deal. But most of his books taught about acceptance and a change of heart, and loving one another. Like the Grinch, for example. Not sure if that makes sense. Maybe Dr. Seuss was racist at some point and grew out of it over time. Then again, he also cheated on his wife that was dying of cancer 🥴

[Jersey2]

@Kas19 www.foxnews.com/.../biden-erases-dr-seuss-read-across-america-proclamation

[normalice]

I mean it literally was back when Christians used to burn books. You should Google what happened to the Dixie Chicks when they spoke out against Bush Jr.

But now the far right has borrowed the term to keep trump supporters mad (and donating) about trump losing the election. The instant trump supporters stop donating is the instant the cancel culture myth is canceled..

[Jersey2]

Fair point.

[zagor]

BS dude. Live in San Francisco or Berkeley for a year and then tell me it's a myth.

[normalice]

@zagor I live in Iowa. It's a myth here.

lie down with the dogs..

[Soteris]

The whole idea of being against "cancel culture" is insane. Say a company did something I did not like, am I not allowed to choose where I do my business? Am I forced to go there just because I went there previously? Cancel culture is public action, it only exists and works because people DONT WANT to associate with something because of something they did. How is that bad?

[Jersey2]

Because it’s pervasive and too far reaching. Everything is getting banned, pulled, shut down, cancelled, fired. It’s out of control. It’s hate driven. Intolerant. Ridiculous.

[Soteris]

Why is that bad? Its literally people making a choice for themselves. Are you going to limit their freedom?

[Jersey2]

As someone pointed out, they use it to get people fired... and not just fired but destroy their jobs prospects and hound them through years. It’s wrong.

[DragonXR]

Are people making choices for themselves or the internet mob collectively going after people and business?

[Jersey2]

@DragonXR The internet mob.

[Soteris]

Why is it my concern as the consumer if lives, jobs or companies are destroyed? The whole point of capitalism is that the company is supposed to appeal to ME in both service and product. If they employ people I do not agree with they have failed to appeal to me and I am in my full right to refuse their product or service.

[DragonXR]

That's the most insane thing I've heard. Lol So Kevin Hart life should have been destroyed for those old tweets of his?

[Soteris]

@DragonXR Why not?

[DragonXR]

You're okay with destroying ppls lives?

Have you ever done/said anything wrong in your 30 years on this planet?

[Soteris]

@DragonXR That is not my problem. If the company makes a mistake and goes into bankruptcy its not my fault. If someone makes a mistake and tweets a bunch of racist shit its not my fault, its theirs.

[DragonXR]

Can you answer my question?

[Soteris]

@DragonXR Which one?

[okeydoke]

I definitely agree with you. Boycotting is capitalist power at work.
As Republicans often say, go to a Communist country if you don’t like the free-market regulating itself.

[Dontaaa]

Definitely not, cancel culture is way to extreme to be compared to that.

Cancel culture ruins people reputation and lives over the most ridiculous shit.

Does book burning do that?

[Jersey2]

Good point.

[Anonymous]

Like book burning "cancel culture" is designed to keep people ignorant & just plain stupid. Sheep incapable of thinking for themselves. That is a main reason for book burning... could not read them and form ideas different from the bleating masses.

Take Dr. Seuss for example. Racial aspects in the books. WHAT exactly are you teaching children by not allowing them to read them? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. In fact you're teaching them less than nothing. You can use these books to educate the children from a young age that the concepts in Dr. Seuss are wrong.

[EmperorRetribution]

Yes!!!
though I believe it was started for good purposes
it has ultimately become a hindrance to society
we can no longer have open dialogue about important issues...

it started as a way to give people voices
and has now become the number 1 way to remove voices

[Jersey2]

I agree.

[DrunkAss]

I made YT response on this today:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ejNMqw2tgFw

[Jersey2]

I don’t click links on here but I am sure it is good 😀

[DrunkAss]

Cheers. Well, if I try to cover that one, I see it rooted in a form of "applied postmodernism". It's a dangerous philosophy as I see it because it views everything in the context of power hierarchies, even the very language we use. It's not just a matter of hyper-sensitivity that "woke" people want to ban Dr. Seuss books, or constantly reform the dictionary, or cancel all sorts of people, or anything of this nature. They are seeing everything through the context of power in maintaining a status quo of what they might call a "toxically-male-dominated, white-normative, heteronormative, cisnormative patriarchy". It's anti-liberal and anti-modernist/Enlightenment in nature and, at least when it comes to the vanguards of this movement, much more sinister than a bunch of hyper-sensitive types wanting to ban everything.

[Jersey2]

Excellent points! Insightful!

[Feelicks]

It's worse because they're also destroying people's lives.

I think when they go after people their goal is to drive them to suicide.

Witch hunts are disgusting.

[Jersey2]

I agree, it’s vicious. This era will be looked back on as an example of what must not happen again.

[Feelicks]

It's like going back in time 70 years the way leftist jack wagons make everything about race.

[SirJohn42]

I would say so. They dont want us to educate ourselves. They want to suppress us.

[Jersey2]

It’s true.

[EssenceOfLight]

I've never read those books as kids.
Is there any credible conclusion what is so "racist" in those books?

[Jersey2]

I don’t think so. Michelle Obama was pictured reading to children from those books.

nypost.com/.../

[exitseven]

It is worse because it is not just the government that is driving it. The media and big technology companies are piling on.

[worldscolide]

I would have to agree with that assessment. I mean look at what they are doing to Dr Seuss.

[Jersey2]

Even eBay cancelled auctions for the book as it shot way up in price.

[BeMuse]

Yep, that is a good parallel. The entire purpose is the subversion and destruction of culture by the communists.

[Dargil]

Yes it is. The Left wants to erase culture. Soon, we will have to erase them. Trump's re-election would have delayed it. Now the clock is counting down.

[Dargil]

The left knows commoners are eventually wreak vengeance on them. And even the strongest military in the world cannot stop 100 million privately armed citizens.

[empiresex]

cancel society cancel state cancel goverment full anarchycomunist