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Is it right to force boys to apologize for their gender? (Page 2)
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I would never apologize for that. I would have an issue with anyone who would try to force my son to.
Why the fuck can't schools teach kids to read, write and do math? Because they waste all their fucking time on this shit.
Well done tards!
I think it's silly because they're not responsible.
Why should guys apologize for their gender? There could be misunderstanding which forced guys to apologize.
I am not following on what you mean. There was no misunderstanding here.
Let me clear please. I didn't say that you have any misunderstanding. I mean misunderstanding found in girls' mind about guys. For example, we guy friends smile and at the same time a girl passes by us, she may think that we guys are smiling looking her. It is misunderstanding.
That’s ridiculous. And troubling.
Only one person agrees with this and she didn’t even have the guts to use her real name
A troll for sure.
Exactly!
No fucking way! I’d take them out of that school and school district. Home Schooling
Not conforming to this is worth dropping out of school (or changing schools) and get some legal actions involved for child abuse/coercive control.
If we're going by who commits the most crime, should we have black kids stand up and apologize for their race? No, obviously not. Your school sounds stupid as hell.
This was not my school.
Definitely not , they are abusing children nobody should apologise for anything they didn't do
It will actually impact them negatively, not much good will come out of it
What kind of dumb ass crap is this?
welcome to the 2020's... the peak of human stupidity thus far. Sadly more to come before the end of this terrible decade me thinks.
@t-8900 i miss the 90s
omg you aren't kidding.
most criminals are men because the laws are stacked against violence and not other types of just as damaging aggressive behaviors
What other behaviors do you think should be considered crimes?
slandering another person for one should be considered the same as stealing. its a conscious choice to run around crapping on others for your own benefit. dressing in bikinis and other semi nude clothing, should be same as rape, since everybody has the right to choose when and where they are sexually attacked. and make no mistake, semi nude clothing is an attack on your sexuality. its deliberate and to my knowledge only medieval Europe, ancient asia and current day muslims understand that
None of that makes sense.
Slandering has no real effect that justifies prison.
And chosing to wear a certain outfit, revealing or not, is very different from being forced into sex.
Guy in swim trunks are showing more body than girls in bikinis are.
dude I've talked to you before you're a simp you constantly make reasons for whats already normal is completely correct and everything else is just ridiculously nonsensical even when its completely logical and seen as normal in many other cultures. i haven't invented any idea, im just telling you what I've learned
Where could you possibly have learned that wearing a bikini is the same as rape? Do you know how crazy that is?
its an analogy and no its not crazy, its easy to see when seeing the abstract ideas behind what is criminal and not.
It is very crazy.
Think about what you are saying. A person using some clothing... is as bad as forcing someone to have sex against their will?
yes because they are the same thing taken in the most abstract form, a sexual assault.
A bikini is a sexual assault? A piece of clothing is a sexual assault?
Do you know what a sexual assault is?
dude you're so emotional and subjective it hurts to talk to you. who pussy whipped you
I made a simple question. How can a bikini be a sexual assault?
a question with an argument with the premise that sexual assault can only be what's currently emotionally triggering to you. because logically, and maybe your emotions would warm up to this if given the chance, a girl in a bikini is sexually assaulting everyone who looks at her
For there to be sexual assault there needs to be done something against another's will. A girl using a bikini is not forcing anyone to do anything.
Also the word "assault" implies that there was some form of violence involved. Verbal or physical. A girl wearing a bikini is not applying any form of violence against anyone.
Do you have any idea how little sense you make?
I am a hot guy. I have a good body six pack included. If I go to the beach in a revealing outfit am I sexually assaulting anyone?
im making sense and im hotter than you. and yes it is wrong to be shirtless in public around kids, because its either gross seeing a guy with a beer gut or a hairy back, or its inappropriate and uncivil
but i also would say its the equivalent of rape in women because more women have more sexual power through their appearance than men do and men are way hornier
1. I never said I was hotter than you. I am but that's not the point. It was just to show your double standards. To you a girl in bikini is sexual assault but a hot guy in trunks isn't.
2. Did you read my explanation on the why bikinis are not sexual assault? There is no violence and no one forced against their will. So it is not sexual assault.
@TruthBringer have a laugh.
omg just stop. you're using fallacies to understand your reality
you're asking a guy who quotes plato to laugh at me. plato. PLATO
I am using fallacies?
Then tell me how bikinis fall under the definition of sexual assault if there is no violence, verbal of physical, and none forced to do something they don't want. Go ahead I wait.
number one no one would wear a bikini if the latent purpose wasn't to turn someone on and to make themselves attractive using sexual means. theyre triggering your sexuality which we all know from years of being an early teen severely limits your rationality. and as it isn't a choice to have a reaction to a naked woman, it is therefore rape of the senses to see one when unwanted. the difference between me and you is that you enjoy being raped
Did you notice that in your description you didn't include violence? So it doesn't fit the definition of sexual assault.
Also men are perfectly capable of keeping their rationality when they look at a girl with a bikini. So she isn't forcing them to anything.
Men and teen boys can look at a hot girl and not look again. There is nothing forcing them to look again or to keep thinking about her. They do it if they want to.
@TruthBringer He is about to call you a simp for that.
@TruthBringer attack on their own gender? what a fucking... seriously, i thought youd just join in with your friend to be nice but youve actually tried to craft an argument. what a...
you realize i can delete what you say
@TruthBringer Agree
Solution: homeschooling
A-fucking-men.
That's the plan!
For this particular incident it would be wise, yes. But homeschooling for long-term is counter-productive since kids needs to be exposed to other people outside of their household
@TruthBringer Actually not true. Social skills can be learned by the media and yourself as a parent. Some of the smartest people I know were homeschooled and very successful in careers and social life. One that I know is a lawyer and the the other is a writer.
@HawkPerception So because you happened to know a few home-schooled who happened to be succesful career-wise, that applies to the rest of the population? Pointing exceptions to the rule does not disprove the rule itself. Being around other people outside home is crucial to develop social skills and get exposed to certain forms of criticism and intimidations. Which especially for boys/young men is something they HAVE to be exposed to
@TruthBringer It's not exceptions. If there's one there can be many. Assuming that kids have no social skills just because they don't go to school isn't a rational thought. When there wasn't school back in the day (a time before pioneer times) you think people had zero social skills? Also it depends on how you raise your kids. If you focus a lot of their social skills growing up, why would they have a problem with it?
@TruthBringer Hmm well that's already been happening since public schools have become retarded and the result isn't any better. I mean it could work if the parents still instill good values but most parents are divorced and there are broken families. I did go through the public school system myself personally.
@HawkPerception I never claimed kids have no social skills when they stay at home. I'm saying that it's part of a child's development to be around others, especially his own age. Staying around papa and mama and siblings is a very limited way to expose a child to new kind of people, personalities and ideas. Pulling strawman isn't going to get you anywhere.
@modelun242 Yeah unforunately the damage that has been done to the nuclear family here in the west has caused much collateral damage to western society...
@TruthBringer You're contradicting yourself. You say you're not claiming kids have no social skills when they stay at home and then right after you basically phrase it in another way with your latter sentences.
I'll say it again. You can teach your kids all kinds of ideas and how to interact with others based on how and what you teach them. Also... I wouldn't exclude them from social activities. I'd have them play sports or go to events where they can interact with others anyways, because that's what a rational home schooling parent would do to give their kids hands on experience. They don't need school to learn it.
@HawkPerception Kids can still have social skills to a degree. Just not to be compared to when they are growing up learning to communicate with the outside world in a person-to-person manner. Reading comprehension mate. This is common sense you're arguing against. The fact you don't even want to acknowledge that growing up socializing is a crucial part of developing social skills is actually quite sad.
Parents can teach their kids many things. Often experience will be a better teacher. What's the point in teaching your kids something and while they don't take the opportunity to put that into practice. It's like someone explains to me how to fly a plane and then claims I know how to fly a plane even without me ever stepping into a cockpit.
As long as kids are interacting with others out there, whether it's through school or other social activities, it's fine. School just happens to be that very easy and regular access to such. School is not the thing that teaches them how to interact, it's them being among their peers that helps them learn. That is my point...
@TruthBringer They have homeschooling communities, you can put your kids in extracurriculars or boy scouts. Also, I find that homeschooling provides kids with more independence since they're not restricted too much by school. Schools nowadays is influenced too much by gender politics and since both parents work, kids are raised by the school system (the government).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFpYj0E-yb4
@modelUN242 💯🔥
@modelun242 There indeed is an upside for homeschooling. I'm simply mentioning the downside. Then again here in the Netherlands, schools are far better than what you guys have in the US. Here kids are allowed to be kids and aren't being involved with politic nonesense
That would be punishment for both there should be interaction for boys and girls or they will grow distant and have social awkwardness
@Aakash_Hangargi There's already that with regular schooling.
Not as much as home schooling though
@Aakash_Hangargi Homeschooling is a super old tradition and people still got married. You can meet people of the opposite gender outside of school and a lot people don't really date in school anyways. I think having good parental models would help though but there are homeschooling communities and clubs that you can encourage your kids to be apart of. Also, a lot of people use virtual communities and go online to meet people.
I didn't say people who got home schooled didn't marry or like didn't see any other people lol they just find it harder to mingle with kids there age or to relate with them.
Awarkdness is there and the interactions would differ especially with opposite sex
@Aakash_Hangargi Very well said!
No I don’t think that’s right. All that needs to happen is some basic education.
Tall about consent? Sure! But this is another level.
What are you implying? Are you totally ignoring my comment and making out I agree with it? I suggest you read it again.
What I got from your comment is that you don't agree on guys saying sorry for their gender.
Well they shouldn’t if they weren’t personally responsive.
*responsibe
No it's just divisive, maybe boys could wear a dress to school one day a week instead,,,
Lets hope they don't do that!
some boys might like it, I would have done, much more comfortable lol,,,
Hell no. Im a man and you can suck my dick if you dont like it. 🤪
For once we agree.
I didn't watch the video but it sounds like child abuse.
Close to that.
That would B my response!
Thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Extremely sexist and thats toxic feminism at its finest
Guess its a Crime to have an Y Chromosome these days.
what a ridiculous question. how would we give birth to trouble-maker kids if there weren't any damn men?
Several things here...
1. Many people want kids including women.
2. The world would not function without men.
3. What does that have to do with the question? It is about if is right or wrong for men to apology for their gender. For being men.
it is not true and I went a little further and such an opinion came out. Actually i mean why do we wash everything down to men?
Dash*
What is not true?
And for the record I am not trying to bash or blame women for what happened on that school. Is just a question. Not everything needs to be washed down to men.
Not everything need to be about men. This question happens to be. Is that wrong?
Okkie
This is so insane I can’t help but hope your being sarcastic. If not you’re an idiot.
It is wrong. These boys should not have the freedom to speak. They should be in jail.
That teacher should be immediately fired and banned from having any contact with children for life.
No? You know if you did something wrong or bad, don't have to apologize if you haven't done anything wrong
the teacher should be raped and stoned to death for this
It was the principal.
my answer is only slightly therefore changed
it is all bullshit pushed by a bunch of fucked up women who think everything gender wrong. With the shitheads in office everything becomes wrong
That, my friend, is a maoist struggle session.
That's how china can enslave it's population.
What China has to do with this?
A lot.
A similar technique was used in the cultural revolution.
no. what the fuck. If this is the case, girls should all apologize for the fact some of their gender act like dirty sluts.
Sadly we live in a generation where you are not individualized by anything anymore not even gender.
What school was that? We need to get all those teachers fired and banned fromvthe classroom that did that!
Double standards. Women are untouchable just like childeren.
Men? Shoot them in the head.
If true, of course not. But like America’s historic sins we should always be open to correct them.
Yeah... another example of the sexist hypocrisy straight from the cult of right think.
The fact you either consider this means you are a beta soyboy.
I am not considering. I know it's wrong. I wanted to know what people here thought.
Of course not, that is sexist.
If they want to exhibit sexism, sure.
Men need to say sorry for they are poor. That’s all
No of course not that’s ridiculous
because women are only good for one thing and someone thinks this will make up for that
Welcome to America! Getting more fucked up by day.
Australia and Canada too
This happened in australia.
Yes! Similar shit happens here too
I have a dick, and proud of how I use it.
No that's not right
Is good that even a young girl like you understands that this is wrong.
And people wonder why I home-school my boys.
Hell no. That's taking it ONE step TOO far.
This is fucked up
Lol apologising for being a boy 🤣
feminist is not about... men hate... ;)
No. This is as bad as critical race theory
The fuck? It's retarded.
My kid would be right out of that school.
Mine too.
No it's not
I don’t think so.
Nah, this is stupid.
Typical simp question.
No wonder MGTOW exist.
That sounds really stupid.
That's awful
Only if girls apologized too.
Its liberal nonsense.
maybe after Women apologize for Eve