I idolize Slobodan Milošević the former president of the federal republic of Yugoslavia and greater Serbia because he helped pave the way for nationalist rule and began his fight against socialism, under him Serbia invaded Bosnia to fight and destroy Albanian and Saudi terrorists and return Serbian land from Bosniaks back to the Serbs, Billy (Clinton) was an ally of Croatia, Bosnia, Saudi Arabia and NATO so they brought their B2 bomber to drop bombs on innocent Serbian citizens but the army of republika srpska shot down the American plane and saved countless lives, he was a true patriot who fought against foreign tyranny and forced removal of sovereignty by forced EU integration, may his soul rest in peace.
I relaly liked Jose Mujica when he still was the president of Paraguay (I hope I'm not mistaken). A common man, who didn't rose to vanaglory for the role they covered, and knew how to fix the standard man's condition for he was indeed one of them.
It's only a war crime if you lose, which we did sadly after resisting for a decade fighting against the UN, 7 nation NATO army, America and Saudi terrorists.
It's a crime against humanity because what he did was inhumane.
To show that I will use an unbiased source, I will avoid an American site and go with the German news site Deutsche Welle ("DW") who documented the charges against him in an article right after he died in 2006.
Former Yugoslav president Slobodan Milosevic, who was found dead Saturday in his cell at the UN detention unit near the Hague, had been on trial before the UN war crimes court since February 2002.
Here is an overview of the charges he faced for allegedly masterminding the wars in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo that tore apart the former Yugoslavia in the 1990s.
Croatia (1991-1995)
Milosevic was charged with 10 counts of crimes against humanity including persecution, extermination, torture and inhumane acts during the war in Croatia which left more than 25,000 people dead.
He was also accused over the deportation of at least 170,000 Croats and other non-Serbs and the unlawful confinement of thousands in inhumane conditions.
The indictment named more than 700 people who were killed from the Krajina region, eastern and western Slavonia and during the 1991 attack on Vukovar hospital.
After Serb forces took control of Vukovar in November 1991, they took 255 Croat and non-Serb patients from the hospital and allegedly "beat and tortured the victims for hours". Eventually all were shot and killed on a remote farm and buried in a mass grave.
Milosevic also faced 22 counts of war crimes related to the same atrocities.
Milosevic faced two counts of genocide and complicity in genocide, the gravest of war crimes, for the 1995 Serb massacre of more than 7,000 Muslim boys and men at Srebrenica and the detention of thousands of Bosnian Muslims and Croats in camps in inhumane conditions.
He was further charged with 27 counts of war crimes and crimes against humanity including persecution, murder and torture.
The Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, adopted by the United Nations General Assembly in December 1948, defines genocide as "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group."
The genocide charge specifically listed "the widespread killing of thousands of Bosnian Muslims during and after the take-over of territories", specifically naming the 1995 massacre of Srebrenica, the only period in the Balkan wars officially ruled to constitute genocide by the UN court.
Milosevic was also cited for the killing of thousands of non-Serbs in detention camps, such as the infamous Omarska and Keraterm camps in northwestern Bosnia.
The indictment listed more than 9,000 dead and stated that the former president participated in a "joint criminal enterprise", the purpose of which was the "forcible and permanent removal of the majority of non-Serbs" from certain areas in Bosnia.
In all more than 200,000 people were killed during the Bosnian war.
Milosevic, together with four of his allies in a "joint criminal enterprise", was accused of having "planned, instigated, ordered, committed or otherwise aided and abetted in a deliberate and widespread or systematic campaign of terror and violence directed at Kosovo Albanian civilians."
There were four charges of crimes against humanity and one of war crimes against Milosevic, including deportation, forcible transfer, murder and persecutions on political, racial and religious grounds.
In 1998-1999 the Yugoslav government cracked down on ethnic Albanians living in the Serbian province of Kosovo. During the conflict more than 10,000 people lost their lives.
The prosecution alleged that Milosevic, Yugoslav president at the time, was individually responsible for "the campaign of terror and violence directed at Kosovo Albanian civilians" and also had superior responsibility for the acts of his subordinates.
By June 1999, approximately 800,000 Kosovo Albanians, or about a third of the entire Kosovo Albanian population, had been expelled from Kosovo. The indictment listed 900 known dead, killed in separate incidents or mass killings such as the January 1999 massacre in Racak which cost 45 lives.
As for being the bad guy because they lost the war, then he should have realized that you don't get into a fucking war you can't win. He didn't realize that and that the rest of the world would be outraged by the worst genocide attempt since Hitler which just goes to show how fucked-up he was.
Well sir I was in Yugoslavia and was really aware of the situation since I was in Bosnia in my fathers balls and now I sing these songs proudly and they should explain it all to you. https://youtu.be/TUXpN7_xa5U
Yugoslavia stopped existing before you were born. If you say that you lived in a place, presumably Serbia, that was part of Yugoslavia, then say that.
The problem with being Serbian is that you are seeing things through Serbian eyes and not from the objectivity of those who had not a direct stake in the matter. Furthermore, because you were a baby when Milošević died, that indicates that you know nothing except the biased "history" you were taught. I witnessed what was happening while it was happening. For me, that was current events on television, not some biased fake history lesson you were given.
I don't understand Serbians... For 31 years, I've known Serbians and almost all of them (or their families) all seem to have this air of superiority and that anyone who isn't a Serb is scum. Furthermore, Serbs assert that they did nothing wrong. At least the Germans owned up to the Holocaust and apologized for it. Serbians instead deny what happened and think their ethnic cleansing was justified.
This is rather disturbing.
Son, look in the mirror and ask yourself about the nature of what you "know".. Consult other sources for your history. My parents lied to me telling me about the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and Santa Claus, so I learned to be skeptical about what I was told and became a science major - so I could understand the universe without someone spoon-feeding me their version of bullshit. I am not telling you to become a scientist, but I am telling you to do "due diligence". Since English is not your first language, that means taking the time to investigate things further to verify what reality is.
I've made my point and have no interest in reliving this unpleasant time from the 20th Century, so don't bother replying - I am muting this question.
She's a horrible and biased leader, the only reason new Zealand beat covid was because of their sparse population and excellent education but she has destroyed any means of resistance against her government and literally banned the kiwi right wing all that's left for support is the Australian defence league. She banned all semi automatic and fully automatic weapons which were once guaranteed in their constitution to fight against tyrannical leaders like her. New Zealand faces attacks everyday online by China yet still she being a labour leader doesn't retaliate and that fumes up the patriots, while Australia, Japan, south Korea and India practice in the south China sea she just pretends that everything is fine.
I mean, you are welcome to your thoughts of course, but I happen to agree with those bans. I also strongly believe in better education all around that is made available to all and not just those with money.
In all fairness I have a lot wrong with your pick, but I didn't call you out for it. Maybe extend the same courtesy if asking for others favorites or people will be less inclined to answer. 😊
Don't take that as an personal attack that's just how we conversate politically nowadays. Well I agree with Benjamin E Franklin, "He who sacrifices freedom for a little bit of safety, deserves neither". She's a immoral leader who attacks her opposition viciously and her supporters fly the communist flag and refuse to fight wars that kiwi patriots have volunteered in for decades. You were oppressed growing up because America is a right wing nation with religious values, I'm oppressed here in Sweden because this is a left wing socialist government that doesn't respect it's native citizens and destroys them at the cost of saving terrorists. I'm unable to express my political opinions in school because of this woke culture and the people I talk to online made me realize how stupid I am for supporting refugees that are terrorists and rape women and kill native men for fun. Europe is experiencing a cultural suicide and as I am the future of the right wing I want to liberate it before it's too late. We stormed the Reichstag in Germany before Americans stormed the capitol, we have more supporters here but Americans are armed and can bring about a coup against Biden's tyranny. My history teacher in 9th grade made me think that we're being taught left propaganda that tells us to not be proud of ourselves in our own damn country he motivated me to be more political and choose my stream of subjects accordingly. I dislike democracy and want to see a single party nationalist leader in every European country and change the EU's policies to be beneficial to Europeans and not to Arabs and Asians, we won in Poland and we won in Slovakia here in Sweden we grew from 2% of the national vote to 19% after the migrant crisis and I believe we will win and ban non European influences and people here and achieve that through a civilians coup. I welcome criticism if you have the time. Thank you for sharing your opinion that I annoyed you to share by inviting you I hope you forgive me.
No, I am perfectly fine having a debate about policies and no offense was taken. Mostly just saying the phrasing seemed off, it didn't feel like a question that was being set up to debate others answers.
You know I am perfectly good at getting deep into the weeds about topics. We have done it before 😊
Sorry but I mostly talk about this debate with people my age and the second argument is a new civil war, that's what both the modern left and modern right want. I hope our American brothers provide us with arms to fight of tyrants like they provided the IRA rebels in Ireland to bomb and destroy the British army so they could be independent. Do you want to have this debate here or on pm because I don't mind but I get flagged and lost my old I'd because they censor me.
Dream on kiddo 🤭 Also didn't israel support Azerbaijan against Armenia lmao And israel also recognizes Kosovo as an independent country lol Seems like you're not aware They don't care about you
Bureaucratic nonsense, at least they gave us arms back in '92 and still provide to this day betraying their evil jihad sponsoring sky daddy America. It's astonishing to see they beat 6 Arab countries in 6 days.
Also to me Armenians are meh, don't really care about them even though they are orthodox. Turks and Armenians different religions same annoying people.
It's not really astonishing when you're backed by the world's only superpower! Ain't it kiddo? I don't think that you know what bureaucracy means! It's foreign policy not bureaucracy :)
By bureaucracy I meant leaders before Netanyahu that we're forced to do so and without the support of the Ashkenazi Jews and Israeli Christians ( I don't like all other kinds of them) and their elected officials.
Vučić is a shit autocrat we need either martial law or someone like kapetan Dragan Vasiljković to be our leader since the allegations of war crimes were dropped against him and was subsequently released from prison. Kosovo isn't being sent technological support and military aid by Izrael unlike Srbija. Sadly as you said because of shit foreign policy and aid from 'Murica they support Kosovo because of NATO relations. Israelis come to saint Sava in Beograd and we Serbs go every to Jerusalem building our strong communal ties.
"but.. but... but" Doing mental gymnastics to "own me" but not working pal. Jews come to my country every year to do a holy pilgrimage in la Ghriba synagogue, it ain't mean shit rlly. No hate huh, js, you are still young and angry and not fully mentally developed yet, not well equipped yet in terms of historical or political knowledge, this is why you don't really have a refined thinking yet, so I'm not gonna be too harsh on you My bestfriend in real life is a serb and I couldn't care less about this stuff just saying, But I get a quick laugh at triggering all kinds of nationalists online, it's just fun, but imma stop now
Option A: They join some other useless war somewhere around the world like in crimea or something and die young as anons, as if they never existed in the first place.
Option B: Grow up and realize that they can't larp forever as it doesn't pay their bills. Get a job and end up being forced to hide his political sentiments so he can keep a job in the real world. Will just end up being some standard angry racist nationalist grandpa that lives in his fantasy world until he dies.
Option C: End up committing a terrorist attack like that Australian or Norwegian terrorist and go to prison.
So really, I'm not opening the songs you're sending, but I'm unbothered and enjoying this funny interaction although I'm starting to feel bad for you.
see, I don't even know their names! History won't remember them, born anon, die anon. no changing of the status quo... But hey, at least it gives fapping material to neckbeard teenage Deus Vult larpers!!!
And for your information I don't reenact things pre-ww1 If you were thinking about larp like that. Novorussia is not useless neither is Donetsk. I don't reenact with Airsoft or swords, but blank guns following my nations laws while doing so, swords are only reserved for folk dances.
I like JFK, it takes real balls of steel to take on the banking cartel even if it didn't work out for him. He even stopped some false flags that might have sparked an atomic war.
Slobodan Milošević was so hated that when he was put up in front of the firing squad, the soldiers started shooting even before the command to shoot was given. This jackass was the man who actions gave rise to the term "ethnic cleansing".
It's funny to see Arabs and Turks being patriotic when they leave their own nation behind to come and live in Holland, Deutschland, Brittania or Sverige. Entitled criminals the lot of you.
Patriotic? Does average arab call for the ethnic cleansing of their minorities? Nope. And if they do they are labelled as terrorists and get shunned. Nationalism is retarded, it's for losers who have nothing going on in their life so they look for pride in the nation or the past.
The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority. Arthur Schopenhauer
@NorthAfrican " Does average arab call for the ethnic cleansing of their minorities? " Yo are goddammed right they do! Muslims slaughter anyone they see as the "Infidel". Just stop with your babbling bullshit.
Can I seek refuge in an Arab country then commit rape and murder then cry racism and whitephobia will I be lynched or given free money for existing? Because that's what you do here.
Most arabs in arab countries don't even know about these stuff You are so ethoncentric you think people in other countries care about you say Anyways my country actually hosted lots of euro, mostly italian refugees during WW2.
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