Southern States start to declare independence after Texas , will you volunteer to fight the Northern States and California forces?

[888theGreat]

I would be ready to sign up. No digital currency. Keep freedom for Religion. Save babies lives by banning Abortion. Keeping gun ownership legal. Electing presidents , not appointing one. Preserve the Constitution, not destroy it. No closing economy to put small businesses out of business. No illegal immigration. No more foreign wars. Fewer taxes. Being able to have inheritance. Freedom of Speech. Put God first not last. No lies like Global warming or over population. No deviants like homosexuals or devil worshipers taking over the majority. No giving certain groups more rights than everyone else.

Yes , I would be willing to fight for my freedom and rights

No, I am sacred of liberal socialists

[WindAtMyBack]

This goes on all over the world. Large population centers control the politics, and the other 99% of the county/state/country are told how to live by people who know nothing about it and have completely different lifestyles and priorities.

I've lived in ten different states, and this was true in every one of them. I have no doubt it's true around the world.

In Oregon, there is talk about most of the eastern state joining with Idaho. When I lived in Oregon, there was talk about east and south Oregon joining with northern California.

The eastern 2/3 of Washington State gets told how to live by big cities in the west.

NYC controls New York State.

It goes on all over. The only states that don't deal with this issue are states that don't have big cities, like Wyoming, Idaho, N Dakota, etc.

[Curmudgeon]

You assume the Rockies, Midwest and Heartland regions would not be with you? Think beyond the Johnny Rebel paradigm, please. Hell, a lot of us stuck in once great states that have become Demunist Commiecrat cesspools would be with you.

[888theGreat]

No Idaho and Dakota's will join South too. Most of the states actually.

[Curmudgeon]

Think of it as Heartland vs. BiCoastal instead. Less historical baggage.

[888theGreat]

There wasn't 50 states then, or 51 like Obama thinks.

[Qdbrown]

I think a lot of Red States have some fantasy leaving the Union. Texas could do it barely, but it would be challenging. It would not be the same life, and there would be a lot of issues that would force many to rejoin the union later on, if they could leave.

Foremost, not many people are willing to die just yet. It would have to get really bad and Texans feeling enough pain to want to put their lives on the line. Now if the Constitution was done away with, and government officials started shooting and hauling people away all over the Union, is just about what it would take. The current political issues are just not enough.

[Daniela1982]

The eastern counties in Oregon want to be part of Idaho because the western part's government sucks and the eastern counties, mostly rural, don't feel they are getting represented as all the state's power is situated in the western half including the capitol of Salem.

[888theGreat]

You live near Sac? Limbaugh lived there for a while.

[Curmudgeon]

Actually, 888thegreat, I live near there, Roseville area.

[ilikefrogsalot]

Dude, just leave America if you hate it so badly. I'm not in the mood for a civil war, I doubt anyone is. Take your traitor (loser) pride elsewhere because no one finds your inbred, redneck, hillbilly, sister-fister, cousin-kisser shenanigans amusing.

[888theGreat]

quit kissing frogs and you might be ok, but you are a bit stupid right now. We are very close to civil war. Closer than you can imagine.

[ilikefrogsalot]

You're just butthurt I fucked your mom and turned her into an atheist liberal stoner lesbian. Go ahead and cry about it just like how your mom cried when I was pounding her from behind.

[888theGreat]

oh you are an IT , a freak.

[ilikefrogsalot]

So is your mom. She's freaky as hell in bed.

[888theGreat]

after reading your moronic immature responses , maybe age should be 21 and under

[ilikefrogsalot]

Do you think your mom would like me more if I was younger? 😏

[888theGreat]

I think more if you disappeared

[ilikefrogsalot]

If I disappeared, who would peg her then? She might be your mommy, but I'm her mommy if you know what I mean 😏

[888theGreat]

you are not 21 but 10

[ilikefrogsalot]

That means your mom is a pedo 😱 I'm reporting her to the FBI

[NightHawk99]

How does a chick my age make a 50+ aged man act half our ages?

[888theGreat]

@NightHawk99 it is a guy

[NightHawk99]

@888theGreat You must be a girl then.

[888theGreat]

@NightHawk99 you are them too probably , just another fag that wants to be a woman

[NightHawk99]

@888theGreat Is that a nerve?

[Red_Arrow]

Recently a lot of the Republicans voting to make abortion illegal have been shown to be getting them for family members. We had an election but the big loser has been trying to overturn the results and get himself appointed. And by trying that, he and his followers are trying to destroy the constitution. But show you the scientific proof, like global climate change, and you can't follow science and will find yourself under water eventually.

[888theGreat]

You are funny boy. Democrats want to appoint 30 Supreme Court Judges , democrats want to do away with electoral college to take state rights and representation away. Conservatives are for constitution , bible, and rule of law. Democrats are for socialism, mob rule , and total control of everyone's life and hate the constitution. Get your facts straight.

[Red_Arrow]

They have been considering more Judges because the Republicans prevented Obama from using his appointments when he was president using made up bullshit which they then ignored when the tables were turned. Republicans have gerrymandered away the voting rights for groups because of color or wealth, and used the electoral college to give ruling power to the minority group. The constitution is clear on most election rules. Trump and his squad have been suing to overturn the constitutional laws and lost at every turn, so now they are having Republicans push through unconstitutional laws and controls in states where the governors are Republicans, though the law abiding ones are refusing to follow the lead of the Trump brigade. Our constitution guarantees the right to gather and peacefully protest. And often when they do, the Republicans send in the police to initiate trouble and beat the legal protestors. As for the bible, the constitution guarantees separation of church and state, allowing people to have the religion they want. The Republicans are for only THEIR bible (which is against the constitution) and not allowing freedom of religion. The democrats are for prosecuting those who attacked, vandalized, and stole from the capitol on January 6th, while the Republicans are calling them peaceful protestors, and are fighting having an investigation into it, because the Republicans are fine with mob rule! You are the one who needs to get your "facts" straight.

[888theGreat]

Bush Republicans helped Democrats cheat

[Red_Arrow]

More nonsense bullshit!

[888theGreat]

go back to your bull shit communist meetings or leave the country.

[Red_Arrow]

This is my country. I fought for it. A lot more than you have ever done. And you are far closer to communism that any guys I know.

[Avicenna]

You know, when I see the level of hate leftists in the US have for their political opponents, I wonder why the leftists don't want to just peacefully split the country so each side can go their separate ways and each run their own country as they see fit.

[888theGreat]

You sure you didn't get scrap metal in your head?

[pajamasam]

Take this qanon shit somewhere else. No one wants to join your cult.

[888theGreat]

just most of the country

[pajamasam]

Oh shucks how did I forget? I know your full of shit. Have fun destroying democracy.

[888theGreat]

we don't , one party just appoints Presidents. Votes no longer count

[pajamasam]

I guess you were hoping they would appoint your dusty cheese man as king woops I mean President judt admit it you want trump to be king of America do that he can make it a white Christian ethnostate you don't really like democracy or rule of law because you'd rather have a government that kisses your ass and tells you your special. You aren't. I'm not. No one is. We are all Americans and your making all of us look bad because the last I check America wqs devoted from its founding to the ideas of democracy. And political cults, attempted coups, deliberately twisting information, racism, sucki f the teet of strong arm politicians, promoting the removal of voting rights is EXTREMELY un democratic... just like you. Your making the USA look bad you aren't a patriot your a motley fool and I don't wish you bad luck... no... I wish that one day you'll wake up and realize you are I a cult. I hope one day you wipe your eyes and have to live with the guilt that you were part of the problem. Your the bad guy in the current political climate and the only reason you can't see it is because your stuck inside an echo chamber that your cult masters built for you. Wake up from the cult and come back to the real world wirh the rest of us.

[888theGreat]

Global warming is a cult. Promoting homosexual lifestyle is a cult. Socialism is a cult. Denying Christ is a cult. Giving more rights to minorities over majority is a cult. Population control is a cult.

[ilikefrogsalot]

@888theGreat I bet you think fucking your mom is a cult too because my liberal ass did that last night.

[pajamasam]

Thats called "changing the topic" 101 you donf have sufficient talking points to refute my claims so all you know to do is to spin the debate to me. But sure let's give it a spin. Homosexuality is perfectly fine among consenting of age adults no one among us has the right to tell another what they can and cannot do in their bedroom. Denying christ is Hella fun actually and the USA is not a Christian nation and your an idiot if you think it ever was. Sure there's been some Christians in the white house and in congress but did you ever consider that maybe they are "lying" about their faith because they know an atheist has 0% chance of getting elected? And surely you know that more people equals more mouths to feed so at some point we gotta stop popping out babies just for the sake of popping out babies. Global warming is going to happen wether we believe it or not and personally I'd prefer the sea levels to stay where they are and coal is extremely disgusting not even a global warming argument. Just coal is just gross it makes people sick, it pollutes the air, it turns mountains into giant holes, and miners work in pretty awful conditions just based on that alone I think coal deserves to be gone. I'm not a proponent of socialism. But I also know that you can accept parts of another government that work and leave the bits that don't. If we gave a different countries Healthcare model a shot to replace ours I don't think thats socialism. That's called trial and error if it works great if not we can elect new people to develop a new system.

Anyway now that we are done with changing the topic can we get back to the original topic? About how you don't really agree with the founding ideas of the United States of America?

I'm guessing you aren't too excited about a government of the people for the people by the people because you want it to just be all white Christians. Send all the rest of then somewhere else. Is that right?

[Gray-Wisp]

What you listed is too liberal for my taste. I think purely digital (crypto) is best, citizens should own weapons on par with the military so that militias may form, a Dictator or Monarch is preferred over a temporary caretaker, Constitutions get in the way of progress, and immigration should be banned entirely.

[NorthwestRider]

Lol southern states are shitholes. Who cares about abortions and what people do in the bedroom when these states need massively help

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Kb62fpsyhC4https://www.youtube.com/embed/a5XSsfiG8Okhttps://www.youtube.com/embed/eqceHviNBC4https://www.youtube.com/embed/mCnyUlXVvDY

[888theGreat]

Everyone is tired of your Socialist crap and moving to Texas. California and New York are collapsing , while Texas is booming, a Southern State. Keep living in your make believe world.

[NorthwestRider]

You think these videos are fake news? They all are from states that voted for Trump

[888theGreat]

if you like them, they are fake. I would rather be poor and free. I am sure this was after the Gov't shut down country over the colds.

[NorthwestRider]

Why be poor, Poverty should be wiped out

[CuteLingsAppreciator]

You have never read a research paper in your life, you have been fed propaganda and you eat it up like a strarving man. Form my documentation, men like you often feel inadequate socially and sexually. Are you a troll, or do you not realize the obvious oxymorons?

[888theGreat]

You are the one with the propaganda toots. Believing all that liberal/ Socialist shit.

[CuteLingsAppreciator]

I can actually conduct my own research to confirm what I learn, not only in college but in real life too. The fact that you think socialism and liberalism are the same speaks volumes.

[Avicenna]

Some of the comments on this question from leftists make it clear, IMHO, that a negotiated partition of the country into two new countries would be best for all involved.

[NathanDavis]

funny how you like to think the USA is only red and blue... and nothing else... lol.

[Jackblue]

Maybe I could wash the dishes as a mess cook. I am too old to fight and even in my younger years wasn't very fit, nevertheless I would try to do my part.

[Nikolai2004]

I will come to America and help you.

https://youtu. be/G-aGaD7Gc7Q

[John_Doesnt]

Enjoy starving to death. Most of the USA's food comes from California.

[najekim]

I'd agree with 75% of what you stated. But it's the other 25% that would prevent me from participating.

[Snakeyes7]

Isn't some parts of Oregon wanting to become part of Idaho to escape some the policies put in place?

[Sevenpointfive]

i wouldn't. i'd become an assassin

[summiter]

Just weird. We all live in the UNITED STATES.

[888theGreat]

we live in the divided states of America

[summiter]

Not me dude

[Jamie05rhs]

What are you talking about?

[888theGreat]

talking about Conservative getting tired of Liberals and leaving and kicking Northern Liberal Ass if necessary.

[exitseven]

Sign me up.

[KrakenAttackin]

Liberal heads on sticks would be heart-warming.

[OddBeMe]

Ehh…we could live without those sucky states.

[NightHawk99]

Are you okay sir?