There are plenty of cultural achievements that white people have made and should be proud of. I don’t think a group like that needs to be like the KKK. In fact, groups like the KKK have a very distinct vibe to them.
Europe has thousands of years of white culture. If you only want to talk about America you have poets like Walt Whitman, musicians, architects, sculpters, inventors, political movements like abolition, space travel, white chefs cooking American variations of wonderful cuisines. the vast majority of the society and fine art you enjoy today was built by white people.
Um. Europe isn’t white culture, Europe is a continent with different ethnic groups and Europeans can be an race so no. Europe isn’t white culture.
And showing the achievements of white people isn’t white culture? Nor is anything else that you gave me examples of cultures.
“American variations of cuisine” American food is not white food. Pizza is consider American food but it’s origins are Italian and It’s apart of Italian culture not white culture.
Explain to me how the vast majority of society and fine arts was built by white people, or was it just that white people take the credit for everything through imperialism to promote white supremacy.
None of this is culture. It’s just appropriation and trying to pass it on as “white culture” this is text book definition white supremacy and you my friend hold white supremacist ideologies.
“The vast majority of society” wasn’t made by white people. This is white supremacy beliefs at its finest.
I honestly dislike people like you to put it bluntly. I’m not arguing with a white supremacist.
Europe is a continent with a bunch of different ethnic groups. That’s literally just like saying Asian culture is the entire continent of Asia when Asia has a ton of different ethnic groups inside of it with different cuisines, practices, social norms, traditional clothing, etc
But America was settled by a mishmash of those European people, combined with Native American, African American, and Mexican culture. The White people of America, along with those other groups have developed paintings, poems, technologies, and white people specifically developed the governmental system and legal documents that allow you and I to have the opinions we want to have.
America is its own cultural blend, and white people have definitely influenced and contributed to that blend.
Paintings and poems aren’t apart of culture. Literature such as folk lore can be apart of culture but not just random poems and paintings. Culture would have to be something that influences a large group of people, hence the name “culture”
Ooph.. I just looked it up. No wonder this conversation is going the way it is. I just checked your age and figured out that you're only 15. Everything is making a lot more sense. That culture wheel is an extremely new idea.
The poor little things just feel left out. I suggest when black people come across these people they should give them a big hug and tell them white lives matter.
@Blacksareugly get off my page you racist clown. Literally you’re obsessed with us, if you hate black people so much than don’t talk about us all over your page 😂 you even have black in your username.
no it is not. Only the first photo showed white racists. We should be more concerned with the tens of thousands or blacks rioting in our streets, looting, murdering, burning, assaulting and destroying the cities. We should also be concerned about their Marxist revolutionary friends, Antifa. Thousands of white communists rioting in our streets, looting, murdering, burning, assaulting and destroying the cities.
Most if not all of the people starting these riots of white and believe it or not I’m not surprised but black people are getting blamed for it. When are we going to ever be left alone
BLM should refuse their "help". By accepting them they become complicit in their crimes. Also, There is much video evidence which show blm committing many violent crimes
White pride, black pride, Asian pride, latin pride, feminism, and MRA are all problematic for the same reason: their collectivist nature. Individualism and liberty is the solution.
I can't stress it any more than I already have. BLM was not invented to “praise” their own race. It’s to stand up to racism and discrimination, specifically against black people, since of all the horrible things being done to them, and continue to be done. White people, I’m also white by the way, have not experienced segregation, racism by a whole other race, harassment, death, or even worse maybe. The whole point of white pride is to point out that their race is more important or just as important, meaning it deserves just as much attention as BLM. Wrong. White people are born with privilege, and yes, every race has their own privileges. So don’t tell me “well, black people have privileges too” cause the difference between them is huge. When people think BLM is about “defining people’s skin Color” it’s absolute bullshit. Like I’ve already stated, BLM and ALM or any race being discriminated and harassed is NOT to point out their skin Color
@Zzmaex Yes, the average black person has historically been treated worse than the average white person in the U. S. and most other western countries. My point is that, *despite that*, clinging to racial identity is not going to help improve race relations and obtain civil liberties. There is no reason to treat what is simply an issue of civil liberties as a racial issue, and to do so is in fact counter-productive and unnecessarily divisive. Can we not just say "Everyone should have more civil liberties. Period."? The government, corporations, and military industrial complex *want* us to be divided. By racializing every god damn issue for no good reason, you are playing directly into their hands.
I’m not saying that anyone is racializing everything, and yes there is some people who do. But we continue to prove their points by making unnecessary white pride movements. White people are protected, many other races in the US are not. That’s why pride events were made. NOT to define skin Color. NOT to praise anyone. It’s made to stand up for themselves. I’m proudly a white woman, but I do not go around saying “WLM pride is the same as BLM” cause it most certainly is not.
@Zzmaex "I’m not saying that anyone is racializing everything, and yes there is some people who do." - But that's exactly what BLM is doing. It is turning a police brutality issue into a racial issue, for no good reason. White pride is doing the same thing. BLM and white pride are exactly the same in my view, and both are retarded.
They’re not the same thing at all. I explained that already. I don’t know how else to tell you. But I agree with you to a certain extent about “white lives matter.”
I don't see anything wrong with being proud of yourself, we've contributed most to this world, heck we're speaking English right now a European language lol. If white pride is racist then BLM is racist too and gay pride is sexist.
White pride is racist because it was first started, and popularized by white supremacists and neo nazis.
Europe doesn’t equal nor is apart of white culture which arguably doesn’t exist. Irish people have culture, polish, Scottish, etc. Yes they have a culture but white people don’t.
White people historically never had to band together based solely off of their race.
You have different countries YES. But if you want to claim their culture as being white culture than that would just be stealing & contributing to white supremacy.
But yes, be proud of being apart of whichever culture you were raised in.
Blm and Gay pride aren’t comparable. Blm was started in 2013 after the death of a unarmed black teenager “Trayvon Martin” was shot dead by a police officer. And gay pride is irrelevant to the subject as any race can be apart of the lgbtq community and it has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.
The specific case of the organisation white pride world wide is based in America where European settlers are manly responsible for its success and independence from Britain. In those times the settlers most were British and Irish people and later many Europeans migrated and bought plantations in America, many Irish people were kept as slaves. I'm half Swedish and half Serbian and I take pride in both of my cultures, Serbs in America celebrate orthodox Christmas with our European traditions. I say European because the orthodox culture is spread around half of Europe and a lot of our countries have similar traditions that are still viable in American society today. White isn't a race since Europe has several races but a broad classification bases on the color of our skin and used as an alias for American. Here's how Serbs in America still follow our traditions.
If Serbians practice their culture than that ok but their culture doesn’t equal white culture since it’s only Serbian culture/a Serbian practice.
Irish people where indentured servants, not slaves. Though some where forcibly deported and sold the majority of Irish became indentured servants in the colonies willingly.
Many indentured servants were treated poorly but still, this isn’t specific at all to white people. This wasn’t a shared experience for all white people, it’s only the shared experience for Irish.
And of course Europe is diverse and has many groups of people.
White pride worldwide is a slogan used by neo nazi white supremacists. And has had many disgusting things happened in the name of “white pride”.
As for white genocide, that in and of itself is a white supremacist conspiracy theory. It’s a myth based off of pseudoscience, pseudo history, and hatred.
There’s no evidence that white people are dying out or facing extermination. The purpose of that entire theory is just to get white people scared and indoctrinated into commitment for a white nationalist agenda with violence.
The white genocide theory was created by a white superset advocate, neo nazi, and convicted felon David Lane.
Which just promotes miscegenation propoganda, anti Semitism, and a whole bunch of xenophobia.
@doopayo Martin was slain by a Hispanic guy who wasn't a cop, And Got off. This is the cornerstone of BLM Dogma and you don't remember that? The Jesus thing was a simple Literary Simile, Shit I learned in Middle School. I know basic Literacy is a white and Colonial institution, but holy fuck you should remember the BLM Gospels by now.
@doopayo I'm sorry but I don't understand why being racist is wrong, I'm European and I don't like and want Africans to live and work beside me. America is stolen land so those people have no say against blacks but this is my country and if I refuse to live beside a foreigner it's not bad in my opinion.
I can't stress it any more than I already have. BLM was not invented to “praise” their own race. It’s to stand up to racism and discrimination, specifically against black people, since of all the horrible things being done to them, and continue to be done. White people, I’m also white by the way, have not experienced segregation, racism by a whole other race, harassment, death, or even worse maybe. The whole point of white pride is to point out that their race is more important or just as important, meaning it deserves just as much attention as BLM. Wrong. White people are born with privilege, and yes, every race has their own privileges. So don’t tell me “well, black people have privileges too” cause the difference between them is huge. When people think BLM is about “defining people’s skin Color” it’s absolute bullshit. Like I’ve already stated, BLM and ALM or any race being discriminated and harassed is NOT to point out their skin Color
@Zzmaex Canadians are the smuggest, self-righteous cunts on the whole internet. You frosted Narcissists will but in at any chance just to feel important and involved. You don't even know the whole story or that BLM's last President just bounced with millions of dollars. They Exist to exploit these outbreaks of violence and makes it look like its for a worthy cause. nypost.com/.../
Without reading everything you wrote, ill answer with a question as well. Isn't the Black lives matter racist and problematic? Which one has been in headlines more with more issues? Ill answer that last question for you, BLM.
How is the media anti black, when the media shows more headlines and news about the BLM movement? Media shows more negative news than positive news. Thus, making the BLM a more problematic movement than this White pride movement. Correct? Media likes to show more negative things happening in this world because it brings in higher ratings. People want to see others suffer. Thats why you don't see a whole lot of positive media.
Blm doesn’t just protest for black issues. It promotes Asian issues and native issues as well. And the two were started by different things. White pride was made by a bow nazi white supremacist where as the blm movement was started because of the death of an unarmed black teen in 2013.
That is in theory but until someone demonstrates the practice. The white pride has it's own seemingly harmless theory until how they demonstrate their movement. All races have issues and even issues have nothing to do with race. Anyone can easily hijack those kind of movement and take it to the extreme which is exactly why it doesn't accurately be described as equality for all. Unlike supporting equality itself, no matter how extreme equality, is it always equality as a result and it doesn't have to be any of those movements.
I can't stress it any more than I already have. BLM was not invented to “praise” their own race. It’s to stand up to racism and discrimination, specifically against black people, since of all the horrible things being done to them, and continue to be done. White people, I’m also white by the way, have not experienced segregation, racism by a whole other race, harassment, death, or even worse maybe. The whole point of white pride is to point out that their race is more important or just as important, meaning it deserves just as much attention as BLM. Wrong. White people are born with privilege, and yes, every race has their own privileges. So don’t tell me “well, black people have privileges too” cause the difference between them is huge. When people think BLM is about “defining people’s skin Color” it’s absolute bullshit. Like I’ve already stated, BLM and ALM or any race being discriminated and harassed is NOT to point out their skin Color
That is the very same thing that alm is not invented to exclude black people. Also for the very same things at white pride was supposed to mean not insulting anyone. And also because every other race experience discriminations of their own not just black people. Like what i said it all seems harmless in theory but when it is acted on, it's going to cause some controversy. And do you think blm is not even a bad thing because the theory said so? Yeah sure it's not a bad thing until they started breaking windows, vandalizing walls, burning flags, starting tantrum, even bullying white people because you think they are so privileged that you don't care if they are oppressed or etc. And how about if i say black people also has privileges? You're the one who supposed to make your own privilege and the difference is so big because a lot of you don't even bother and keep blaming it on discrimination. Always is thinking that white people are the most privileged, but in fact Asians are actually the ones that earns the most and the most successful people in USA despite facing a lot of discrimination. So you have no excuse reallty.
I have studied history, extensively, and no I asked who they are oppressing as in present tense not 150 years ago. In fact I have studied history so thoroughly that I would never argue about who oppressed who as literaly no group has managed to avoid oppressing and enslaving others. Africans, yes Africans, enslaved whites for thousands of years (from ancient roman times to 1860s when we finally had the naval might to crush the white slave trade once and for all). So did the ottoman muslims who took over spain for hundreds of years among many other regions. The term slave is derived from the word slav, itself a short hand of the word slavic as in white europeans, specificaly because they where enslaved so often that their very name became synonymous with forced subjugation and oppression. Which is why I asked you if you have ever studied history because you claim that whites have never been oppressed but we can argue that this is the exact opposite of reality as slavery was actually not common in Europe but was the norm in africa and the middle east (as well as asia in general).
What does that even refer to? I stated their is no group that has not oppressed another, then went through a list, did you ignore that? Also women have NEVER been oppressed at any point in history. Women have always been treated better then men have and the idea that they where not while men slaved away to give htem their money and died defending their "honor" i. e. would fight and die if a woman was so much as insulted, is laughable.
sounds like a problem with you if the first thing you think of is the kkk when you hear white pride. white pride is a good thing. why shouldn't white people be proud
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Its just as bad as ALL other radical activist groups.. Yes this includes BLM and Antifa, as well as the KKK, the skinheads and a myriad of others. I hate them all personally, thy do no good for society as a whole and create further division.
well they clearly are "anti police", insinuating that police is "white supremacist racist". being that lots of black people are in the police, that's quite a bullshit racist claim. nobody thinks black lives don't or shouldn't matter. the fact that black people are disproportionally involved in criminal activity points to the issue, which is the black community.
you know they constantly make the case that black people are disproportionally the victims of police brutality but they sweep under the rug, that black people are also disproportionally the criminals that are responsible for the deaths of other black people. it's not "white hate against black people". it's a crime issue with black people. i'm not being racist. that is statistical fact.
so let's look at how those problems arise. the single most important factor in this is: habitus and social spheres. in black communities, single motherhood is rampant. single motherhood is THE biggest pedcitor for problems later in life considering criminality or lack of success. so we need to strengthen the family values in black communities.
another issue which i touched on with the habidtus. look at Asians. why are they so successfull? cause they're "not black"? no! because they have templates for success that their families socialize their children with. work hard in school. have good grades. have aspirations. then you'll succeed.
look at the mentality in black communities. "we're black. the world hates black people. don't even try".
if you're doing the best you can in an Asian community, you have the respect of your peers and are encouraged by your social sphere. if you are doing your best in a black community, you're the nerd. you're shunned. you're discouraged.
those are the issues! not "racism". sure i'm not denying that racism exists. but blm makes the case that "the whites are suppressing them", which isn't the case. i mean if that was the case, you would have to concede that Asians are just suppressing all of us, which is of course bullshit. attack the issues. don't blame random people left right and center. don't make "whites" responsible for the shortcomings in black communities. asking for support and for the acknowledgment of the issues that black communities have is fine. but that's not what blm does. blm blames white people and the police particularly. thus they're racist.
Blm doesn’t blame anyone, it states facts and the fact that unarmed black people are being disproportionately killed by police is true. I’ve already included links to data on other people’s posts with info
well we must have liestened to different self proclaimed BLM members then.
i'm not denying that black people are facing more police brutality. but that's not cause the police is racist (which is the claim of blm), it is because the majority of violent firearm involving crimes is committed by black people. you nkow that actually more black people die by the hands of other black people than whites? that's what nobody sees. the criminal statistics aren't racist. they describe facts. and it is for that fact that it is more likely that police is more violent with black people. because they have to be more careful with black people as those are statistically more liekely to threatten their lifes.
look i'm not trying to make the case that no policemen ever missconducted themself and i'm not trying to make the case that there's no racists in the police. those things exist and it's not ok but also not common. so i'm just trying to put your eyes on the real issues. not the blm racist propaganda bullshit reasons.
ok. i'll give you a hint as to what you should try to find out. i don't know this myself, i'm just taking an educated guess. if you don't wanna be a racist yourself, you should try to look at statistics that show the percentage of incidents of police brutality by race and by the number of criminal offenses.
my argument is that black people do more crimes, thus are more involved with police, thus have a higher chance of suffering brutality. i would claim the chance of suffering brutality is the same for whites and blacks. you know there was only recently a white guy that was killed in much the same way as george floyd was. does anyone speak about that?
Black people aren’t inherently violent. I’m honestly tired talking about black pepper in a convo that doesn’t concern my people.
Talk about how your people went and did a terrorist attack in the capital and than proceeded to assault a black officer, than we can have a conversation
And if you actually cared about the white guy that died than you can make your own movement. If anything that white fit dying literally is proving to you that the police is fucked up and needs to be defunded and reformed?
see you're missconstruing what i said like those sick BLM people are. it's applied racism and intentional twisting of words. it's dangerous to do that. listen to what i said.
i did NOT say that black people are "inherently violent". humans generally have the potential for violence. whites, blacks, yellows, reds. doesn't matter.
FACT is that black people do commit more crimes and do show more violent behavior. and i also previously told you why this is the case. and the reason for it is NOT "because they're black" as i previously said.
you need to pay attention and think. not try to see the malevolent thoughts that you are presuming in everything someone says. that's a problem!
i don't want anyone to die. but i don't want "some deaths" to be seen as "more important" than others... death knows no colors. it's as bad when a black person dies as when a white person dies.
“I did NOT say that black peoples are inherently violent”
“Black people show more violent behavior”
😐 and you still don’t see where you might be wrong? You still don’t see where you might come off as racist? You still don’t see where the ignorance is showing?
“I don’t want anyone to die.” Than vote laws in place that’ll reform the police cause right now if you have enough money you can open up your own prison and profit off of people going to jail.
People are profiting off of people staying in jail for extended period times. The entire point of the US prison system is to keep people in their for an extended amount of time cause of capitalism.
Or try to make it so that police aren’t able to just falsely convict people and get away with it scot free.
The reason why George Floyd death is popular is because of the reality that many black people are being killed by the police and no ones cared for so long and the fact that the minute people care you want to cry about how white peoples aren’t getting news coverage.
You really don’t see how ignorant that comes off? White deaths have been portrayed on the news for forever.
In fact, the most popular murder cases are literally almost all white people.
Dude i explained what is behind black people being statistically more involved in violent crime. I told you how that connects with habitus and upbringing. Not with them being black. You're not listening. This conversation is pointless.
And when I'm saying that black people are statisitcaly more involved I'm quoting a statistical fact. That's not racist. Specially not when I tell you that them being black isn't even the reason. I don't know what to tell you. If your Brian is unable to process that information, i can help you.
all I know is the democrats and leftist have made this situation far far worse then wait It was. we need to cut this white vs black war, remember this country is extremely mixed, we will not pick sides. we see good in whites and blacks. the democrat Marxist want this war. in my opinion and a dude who is neither black or white, the way it's turning out I'd pick the republican side with conservatives of all races with good values (pro nuclear family, limited government, low taxes, freedom, free speech, right to bear arms, etc). I'm sure most of us would want that as well. in my opinion the left have no chance if a civil war breaks out.
With all of the anti white crap going on, I support them 100%
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yes it is racist but so is brown pride and black pride and all the others. Its just a racist mentality that is common with people. I don't think white pride is any more or less dangerous.
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Some are racists but the rest are just pissed that their people get treated as expendable.
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There are plenty of cultural achievements that white people have made and should be proud of. I don’t think a group like that needs to be like the KKK. In fact, groups like the KKK have a very distinct vibe to them.
Please explain white culture to me because white people as just a race don’t have culture in my opinion.
Europe has thousands of years of white culture. If you only want to talk about America you have poets like Walt Whitman, musicians, architects, sculpters, inventors, political movements like abolition, space travel, white chefs cooking American variations of wonderful cuisines. the vast majority of the society and fine art you enjoy today was built by white people.
Um. Europe isn’t white culture, Europe is a continent with different ethnic groups and Europeans can be an race so no. Europe isn’t white culture.
And showing the achievements of white people isn’t white culture? Nor is anything else that you gave me examples of cultures.
“American variations of cuisine” American food is not white food. Pizza is consider American food but it’s origins are Italian and It’s apart of Italian culture not white culture.
Explain to me how the vast majority of society and fine arts was built by white people, or was it just that white people take the credit for everything through imperialism to promote white supremacy.
None of this is culture. It’s just appropriation and trying to pass it on as “white culture” this is text book definition white supremacy and you my friend hold white supremacist ideologies.
“The vast majority of society” wasn’t made by white people. This is white supremacy beliefs at its finest.
I honestly dislike people like you to put it bluntly. I’m not arguing with a white supremacist.
How could you possibly argue that european culture is different from "white" culture?
Europe is a continent with a bunch of different ethnic groups. That’s literally just like saying Asian culture is the entire continent of Asia when Asia has a ton of different ethnic groups inside of it with different cuisines, practices, social norms, traditional clothing, etc
But America was settled by a mishmash of those European people, combined with Native American, African American, and Mexican culture. The White people of America, along with those other groups have developed paintings, poems, technologies, and white people specifically developed the governmental system and legal documents that allow you and I to have the opinions we want to have.
America is its own cultural blend, and white people have definitely influenced and contributed to that blend.
Paintings and poems aren’t apart of culture. Literature such as folk lore can be apart of culture but not just random poems and paintings. Culture would have to be something that influences a large group of people, hence the name “culture”
That's exactly what culture is. Before the digital age; that was what people considered entertainment.
Look up what a culture wheel is?
Ooph.. I just looked it up. No wonder this conversation is going the way it is. I just checked your age and figured out that you're only 15. Everything is making a lot more sense. That culture wheel is an extremely new idea.
The poor little things just feel left out. I suggest when black people come across these people they should give them a big hug and tell them white lives matter.
Lol nah, I’m not trying to get myself killed
@Blacksareugly get off my page you racist clown. Literally you’re obsessed with us, if you hate black people so much than don’t talk about us all over your page 😂 you even have black in your username.
Honey, you’re obsessed. Get a life
no it is not. Only the first photo showed white racists. We should be more concerned with the tens of thousands or blacks rioting in our streets, looting, murdering, burning, assaulting and destroying the cities. We should also be concerned about their Marxist revolutionary friends, Antifa. Thousands of white communists rioting in our streets, looting, murdering, burning, assaulting and destroying the cities.
Most if not all of the people starting these riots of white and believe it or not I’m not surprised but black people are getting blamed for it. When are we going to ever be left alone
Leave black people out of stuff that doesn’t concern them, thankyou
BLM should refuse their "help". By accepting them they become complicit in their crimes. Also, There is much video evidence which show blm committing many violent crimes
White people don't care about there race. Therefore those who do are extremists yes.
White pride, black pride, Asian pride, latin pride, feminism, and MRA are all problematic for the same reason: their collectivist nature. Individualism and liberty is the solution.
I can't stress it any more than I already have. BLM was not invented to “praise” their own race. It’s to stand up to racism and discrimination, specifically against black people, since of all the horrible things being done to them, and continue to be done.
White people, I’m also white by the way, have not experienced segregation, racism by a whole other race, harassment, death, or even worse maybe.
The whole point of white pride is to point out that their race is more important or just as important, meaning it deserves just as much attention as BLM. Wrong. White people are born with privilege, and yes, every race has their own privileges. So don’t tell me “well, black people have privileges too” cause the difference between them is huge.
When people think BLM is about “defining people’s skin Color” it’s absolute bullshit.
Like I’ve already stated, BLM and ALM or any race being discriminated and harassed is NOT to point out their skin Color
@Zzmaex Yes, the average black person has historically been treated worse than the average white person in the U. S. and most other western countries. My point is that, *despite that*, clinging to racial identity is not going to help improve race relations and obtain civil liberties. There is no reason to treat what is simply an issue of civil liberties as a racial issue, and to do so is in fact counter-productive and unnecessarily divisive. Can we not just say "Everyone should have more civil liberties. Period."? The government, corporations, and military industrial complex *want* us to be divided. By racializing every god damn issue for no good reason, you are playing directly into their hands.
I’m not saying that anyone is racializing everything, and yes there is some people who do. But we continue to prove their points by making unnecessary white pride movements. White people are protected, many other races in the US are not.
That’s why pride events were made.
NOT to define skin Color.
NOT to praise anyone.
It’s made to stand up for themselves.
I’m proudly a white woman, but I do not go around saying “WLM pride is the same as BLM” cause it most certainly is not.
@Zzmaex "I’m not saying that anyone is racializing everything, and yes there is some people who do." - But that's exactly what BLM is doing. It is turning a police brutality issue into a racial issue, for no good reason. White pride is doing the same thing. BLM and white pride are exactly the same in my view, and both are retarded.
They’re not the same thing at all. I explained that already. I don’t know how else to tell you. But I agree with you to a certain extent about “white lives matter.”
@Zzmaex No, you really didn't explain it. You just made an assertion without backing it up with any data or examples.
I don't see anything wrong with being proud of yourself, we've contributed most to this world, heck we're speaking English right now a European language lol. If white pride is racist then BLM is racist too and gay pride is sexist.
White pride is racist because it was first started, and popularized by white supremacists and neo nazis.
Europe doesn’t equal nor is apart of white culture which arguably doesn’t exist. Irish people have culture, polish, Scottish, etc. Yes they have a culture but white people don’t.
White people historically never had to band together based solely off of their race.
You have different countries YES. But if you want to claim their culture as being white culture than that would just be stealing & contributing to white supremacy.
But yes, be proud of being apart of whichever culture you were raised in.
Blm and Gay pride aren’t comparable. Blm was started in 2013 after the death of a unarmed black teenager “Trayvon Martin” was shot dead by a police officer. And gay pride is irrelevant to the subject as any race can be apart of the lgbtq community and it has nothing to do with what I’m talking about.
White people can have culture but culture existing only on their race doesn’t exist to simplify it
The specific case of the organisation white pride world wide is based in America where European settlers are manly responsible for its success and independence from Britain. In those times the settlers most were British and Irish people and later many Europeans migrated and bought plantations in America, many Irish people were kept as slaves. I'm half Swedish and half Serbian and I take pride in both of my cultures, Serbs in America celebrate orthodox Christmas with our European traditions. I say European because the orthodox culture is spread around half of Europe and a lot of our countries have similar traditions that are still viable in American society today. White isn't a race since Europe has several races but a broad classification bases on the color of our skin and used as an alias for American. Here's how Serbs in America still follow our traditions.
https://youtu.be/QRf2fRzEWd8
White genocide is the reason why people are being "racist".
If Serbians practice their culture than that ok but their culture doesn’t equal white culture since it’s only Serbian culture/a Serbian practice.
Irish people where indentured servants, not slaves. Though some where forcibly deported and sold the majority of Irish became indentured servants in the colonies willingly.
Many indentured servants were treated poorly but still, this isn’t specific at all to white people. This wasn’t a shared experience for all white people, it’s only the shared experience for Irish.
And of course Europe is diverse and has many groups of people.
White pride worldwide is a slogan used by neo nazi white supremacists. And has had many disgusting things happened in the name of “white pride”.
As for white genocide, that in and of itself is a white supremacist conspiracy theory. It’s a myth based off of pseudoscience, pseudo history, and hatred.
There’s no evidence that white people are dying out or facing extermination. The purpose of that entire theory is just to get white people scared and indoctrinated into commitment for a white nationalist agenda with violence.
The white genocide theory was created by a white superset advocate, neo nazi, and convicted felon David Lane.
Which just promotes miscegenation propoganda, anti Semitism, and a whole bunch of xenophobia.
@doopayo Holy Shit, you fucked up the "Trayvon Martin" event? That's like saying Jesus Christ died of leukemia.
@Ryfylr um how? The Trayvon martin even was tragic.
And I’m not religious so I don’t understand the Jesus statement
Embrace Christianity and everything would be alright.
@doopayo Martin was slain by a Hispanic guy who wasn't a cop, And Got off. This is the cornerstone of BLM Dogma and you don't remember that? The Jesus thing was a simple Literary Simile, Shit I learned in Middle School. I know basic Literacy is a white and Colonial institution, but holy fuck you should remember the BLM Gospels by now.
@doopayo I'm sorry but I don't understand why being racist is wrong, I'm European and I don't like and want Africans to live and work beside me. America is stolen land so those people have no say against blacks but this is my country and if I refuse to live beside a foreigner it's not bad in my opinion.
@Nikolai2004 literally just admitted to being a neo nazi, alright buddy
I can't stress it any more than I already have. BLM was not invented to “praise” their own race. It’s to stand up to racism and discrimination, specifically against black people, since of all the horrible things being done to them, and continue to be done.
White people, I’m also white by the way, have not experienced segregation, racism by a whole other race, harassment, death, or even worse maybe.
The whole point of white pride is to point out that their race is more important or just as important, meaning it deserves just as much attention as BLM. Wrong. White people are born with privilege, and yes, every race has their own privileges. So don’t tell me “well, black people have privileges too” cause the difference between them is huge.
When people think BLM is about “defining people’s skin Color” it’s absolute bullshit.
Like I’ve already stated, BLM and ALM or any race being discriminated and harassed is NOT to point out their skin Color
@Zzmaex Canadians are the smuggest, self-righteous cunts on the whole internet. You frosted Narcissists will but in at any chance just to feel important and involved. You don't even know the whole story or that BLM's last President just bounced with millions of dollars. They Exist to exploit these outbreaks of violence and makes it look like its for a worthy cause.
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agreed
Without reading everything you wrote, ill answer with a question as well. Isn't the Black lives matter racist and problematic? Which one has been in headlines more with more issues? Ill answer that last question for you, BLM.
More headlines doesn’t equal more problematic it just shows how the media is anti black
How is the media anti black, when the media shows more headlines and news about the BLM movement? Media shows more negative news than positive news. Thus, making the BLM a more problematic movement than this White pride movement. Correct? Media likes to show more negative things happening in this world because it brings in higher ratings. People want to see others suffer. Thats why you don't see a whole lot of positive media.
Yes, it is very racist, and recently has become extremely problematic and criminal.
Any race movement like that is racist and that includes blm as well. Because all lives can't matter if all you protest for is yourself.
Blm doesn’t just protest for black issues. It promotes Asian issues and native issues as well. And the two were started by different things. White pride was made by a bow nazi white supremacist where as the blm movement was started because of the death of an unarmed black teen in 2013.
That is in theory but until someone demonstrates the practice. The white pride has it's own seemingly harmless theory until how they demonstrate their movement. All races have issues and even issues have nothing to do with race. Anyone can easily hijack those kind of movement and take it to the extreme which is exactly why it doesn't accurately be described as equality for all. Unlike supporting equality itself, no matter how extreme equality, is it always equality as a result and it doesn't have to be any of those movements.
I can't stress it any more than I already have. BLM was not invented to “praise” their own race. It’s to stand up to racism and discrimination, specifically against black people, since of all the horrible things being done to them, and continue to be done.
White people, I’m also white by the way, have not experienced segregation, racism by a whole other race, harassment, death, or even worse maybe.
The whole point of white pride is to point out that their race is more important or just as important, meaning it deserves just as much attention as BLM. Wrong. White people are born with privilege, and yes, every race has their own privileges. So don’t tell me “well, black people have privileges too” cause the difference between them is huge.
When people think BLM is about “defining people’s skin Color” it’s absolute bullshit.
Like I’ve already stated, BLM and ALM or any race being discriminated and harassed is NOT to point out their skin Color
That is the very same thing that alm is not invented to exclude black people. Also for the very same things at white pride was supposed to mean not insulting anyone. And also because every other race experience discriminations of their own not just black people. Like what i said it all seems harmless in theory but when it is acted on, it's going to cause some controversy. And do you think blm is not even a bad thing because the theory said so? Yeah sure it's not a bad thing until they started breaking windows, vandalizing walls, burning flags, starting tantrum, even bullying white people because you think they are so privileged that you don't care if they are oppressed or etc. And how about if i say black people also has privileges? You're the one who supposed to make your own privilege and the difference is so big because a lot of you don't even bother and keep blaming it on discrimination. Always is thinking that white people are the most privileged, but in fact Asians are actually the ones that earns the most and the most successful people in USA despite facing a lot of discrimination. So you have no excuse reallty.
It's problematic for a group of people to have a movement when they were never oppressed and are infact the oppressors
Seriously? Never oppressed (have you not studied any history at all?)? Who are they oppressing?
@hellionthesagereborn are you seriously asking who white people have oppressed... Have YOU not studied history? 💀
I have studied history, extensively, and no I asked who they are oppressing as in present tense not 150 years ago. In fact I have studied history so thoroughly that I would never argue about who oppressed who as literaly no group has managed to avoid oppressing and enslaving others. Africans, yes Africans, enslaved whites for thousands of years (from ancient roman times to 1860s when we finally had the naval might to crush the white slave trade once and for all). So did the ottoman muslims who took over spain for hundreds of years among many other regions. The term slave is derived from the word slav, itself a short hand of the word slavic as in white europeans, specificaly because they where enslaved so often that their very name became synonymous with forced subjugation and oppression. Which is why I asked you if you have ever studied history because you claim that whites have never been oppressed but we can argue that this is the exact opposite of reality as slavery was actually not common in Europe but was the norm in africa and the middle east (as well as asia in general).
@hellionthesagereborn women/anyone able to get pregnant, poc, lgbt, teens.
What does that even refer to? I stated their is no group that has not oppressed another, then went through a list, did you ignore that? Also women have NEVER been oppressed at any point in history. Women have always been treated better then men have and the idea that they where not while men slaved away to give htem their money and died defending their "honor" i. e. would fight and die if a woman was so much as insulted, is laughable.
I don't know anything about then but just the name alone pisses me off and I would think that they are
"Pride" is not racist. "Supremacy" is. It doesn't matter who's involved in that aspect.
What do white people as a whole collectively share that can be considered culture that they celebrate with white pride?
sounds like a problem with you if the first thing you think of is the kkk when you hear white pride. white pride is a good thing. why shouldn't white people be proud
Its just as bad as ALL other radical activist groups.. Yes this includes BLM and Antifa, as well as the KKK, the skinheads and a myriad of others. I hate them all personally, thy do no good for society as a whole and create further division.
if white pride is racist, then "BLM" is. and yes i think both are.
And how has blm been racist
well they clearly are "anti police", insinuating that police is "white supremacist racist". being that lots of black people are in the police, that's quite a bullshit racist claim. nobody thinks black lives don't or shouldn't matter. the fact that black people are disproportionally involved in criminal activity points to the issue, which is the black community.
you know they constantly make the case that black people are disproportionally the victims of police brutality but they sweep under the rug, that black people are also disproportionally the criminals that are responsible for the deaths of other black people. it's not "white hate against black people". it's a crime issue with black people. i'm not being racist. that is statistical fact.
so let's look at how those problems arise. the single most important factor in this is: habitus and social spheres. in black communities, single motherhood is rampant. single motherhood is THE biggest pedcitor for problems later in life considering criminality or lack of success. so we need to strengthen the family values in black communities.
another issue which i touched on with the habidtus. look at Asians. why are they so successfull? cause they're "not black"? no! because they have templates for success that their families socialize their children with. work hard in school. have good grades. have aspirations. then you'll succeed.
look at the mentality in black communities. "we're black. the world hates black people. don't even try".
if you're doing the best you can in an Asian community, you have the respect of your peers and are encouraged by your social sphere. if you are doing your best in a black community, you're the nerd. you're shunned. you're discouraged.
those are the issues! not "racism". sure i'm not denying that racism exists. but blm makes the case that "the whites are suppressing them", which isn't the case. i mean if that was the case, you would have to concede that Asians are just suppressing all of us, which is of course bullshit. attack the issues. don't blame random people left right and center. don't make "whites" responsible for the shortcomings in black communities. asking for support and for the acknowledgment of the issues that black communities have is fine. but that's not what blm does. blm blames white people and the police particularly. thus they're racist.
Blm doesn’t blame anyone, it states facts and the fact that unarmed black people are being disproportionately killed by police is true. I’ve already included links to data on other people’s posts with info
well we must have liestened to different self proclaimed BLM members then.
i'm not denying that black people are facing more police brutality. but that's not cause the police is racist (which is the claim of blm), it is because the majority of violent firearm involving crimes is committed by black people. you nkow that actually more black people die by the hands of other black people than whites? that's what nobody sees. the criminal statistics aren't racist. they describe facts. and it is for that fact that it is more likely that police is more violent with black people. because they have to be more careful with black people as those are statistically more liekely to threatten their lifes.
look i'm not trying to make the case that no policemen ever missconducted themself and i'm not trying to make the case that there's no racists in the police. those things exist and it's not ok but also not common. so i'm just trying to put your eyes on the real issues. not the blm racist propaganda bullshit reasons.
ok. i'll give you a hint as to what you should try to find out. i don't know this myself, i'm just taking an educated guess. if you don't wanna be a racist yourself, you should try to look at statistics that show the percentage of incidents of police brutality by race and by the number of criminal offenses.
my argument is that black people do more crimes, thus are more involved with police, thus have a higher chance of suffering brutality. i would claim the chance of suffering brutality is the same for whites and blacks. you know there was only recently a white guy that was killed in much the same way as george floyd was. does anyone speak about that?
Black people aren’t inherently violent. I’m honestly tired talking about black pepper in a convo that doesn’t concern my people.
Talk about how your people went and did a terrorist attack in the capital and than proceeded to assault a black officer, than we can have a conversation
And if you actually cared about the white guy that died than you can make your own movement. If anything that white fit dying literally is proving to you that the police is fucked up and needs to be defunded and reformed?
It’s an abuse of power and no ones being protected by them
see you're missconstruing what i said like those sick BLM people are. it's applied racism and intentional twisting of words. it's dangerous to do that. listen to what i said.
i did NOT say that black people are "inherently violent". humans generally have the potential for violence. whites, blacks, yellows, reds. doesn't matter.
FACT is that black people do commit more crimes and do show more violent behavior. and i also previously told you why this is the case. and the reason for it is NOT "because they're black" as i previously said.
you need to pay attention and think. not try to see the malevolent thoughts that you are presuming in everything someone says. that's a problem!
i don't want anyone to die. but i don't want "some deaths" to be seen as "more important" than others... death knows no colors. it's as bad when a black person dies as when a white person dies.
“I did NOT say that black peoples are inherently violent”
“Black people show more violent behavior”
😐 and you still don’t see where you might be wrong? You still don’t see where you might come off as racist? You still don’t see where the ignorance is showing?
“I don’t want anyone to die.” Than vote laws in place that’ll reform the police cause right now if you have enough money you can open up your own prison and profit off of people going to jail.
People are profiting off of people staying in jail for extended period times. The entire point of the US prison system is to keep people in their for an extended amount of time cause of capitalism.
Or try to make it so that police aren’t able to just falsely convict people and get away with it scot free.
The reason why George Floyd death is popular is because of the reality that many black people are being killed by the police and no ones cared for so long and the fact that the minute people care you want to cry about how white peoples aren’t getting news coverage.
You really don’t see how ignorant that comes off? White deaths have been portrayed on the news for forever.
In fact, the most popular murder cases are literally almost all white people.
Dude i explained what is behind black people being statistically more involved in violent crime. I told you how that connects with habitus and upbringing. Not with them being black. You're not listening. This conversation is pointless.
And when I'm saying that black people are statisitcaly more involved I'm quoting a statistical fact. That's not racist. Specially not when I tell you that them being black isn't even the reason. I don't know what to tell you. If your Brian is unable to process that information, i can help you.
If it’s a statistical fact than where are the statistics. I’m gonna at least need to have an article or something
And I’ve heard this argument before, it’s misinformed so I already have an idea of what kind of statistics your most likely going to show
sounds like the black supremacy anti-white hate group
all I know is the democrats and leftist have made this situation far far worse then wait It was.
we need to cut this white vs black war, remember this country is extremely mixed, we will not pick sides. we see good in whites and blacks.
the democrat Marxist want this war.
in my opinion and a dude who is neither black or white, the way it's turning out I'd pick the republican side with conservatives of all races with good values (pro nuclear family, limited government, low taxes, freedom, free speech, right to bear arms, etc).
I'm sure most of us would want that as well. in my opinion the left have no chance if a civil war breaks out.
Only if the black pride movement is. One can't be racism without the being racism.
You’re confused
With all of the anti white crap going on, I support them 100%
yes it is racist but so is brown pride and black pride and all the others. Its just a racist mentality that is common with people. I don't think white pride is any more or less dangerous.
Some are racists but the rest are just pissed that their people get treated as expendable.