Do any Trump supporters here still legitimately believe the 2020 Election was stolen from Trump?

[Physics-Man]

Yes

No

Other

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well, its hard to say exactly but I'm inclined to think so. Now I think any one who has reviewed the evidence even at a cursory glance can safely say that foul play was involved and their was in fact fraud (we can say this because that has been out right proven unquestioningly.). The real issue is to what degree. Considering that Biden got more votes Then Obama did who was the most popular president until Trump came along, despite literally every metric showing little support of him, him not campaigning, and all the shadiness going on with the election from the states open and flagrant disregard for the law (and the federal government endorsing it) to the issues of thousands of ballots cast from non existent locations, to counties openly refusing to turn over their voting machines and data, to democrats refusing to allow conservative ballot watchers, all of this does suggest heavily that the election was if not stolen, heavily modified in Biden's favor.

When you take into account all the tell tale signs of fraud listed by the BBC (originally to call out fraudulent elections in africa and other areas), you start to see similar patterns i. e. unusually high turn out rates (nearly 90% turn out rates in areas that traditionally see no more then 60% turn out. At least one county in pensylvania had not had a turn out like this since Lyndon B. Johnson, yet in those fifty years they had a massive decline in population which makes it doubly unusual to have such high turn out rates) and very selective turn out rates (Biden actually trailed behind in most blue states compared to what hillary did, yet in the swing states he got turn out rates as high as 90% which also happen to be the areas he needed the most), combined with him not campaigning in any of the areas that had such high turn out rates, plus an abnormal amount of time going by to count ballots in many of these contested areas despite their significantly lower population (Texas and california both have substantially higher populations yet got their counts done the day of, meanwhile michigan, arizona, pensylvania and georgia wouldn't get theirs done until days later.), all of these occured and all of them are signs of a rigged election.

So I cannot say definitively that the election was stolen. . . but if I was a betting man and we could actually have a proper investigation that could find out definitively what happened, I'd bet every dime I had that it was stolen.

[MCheetah]

Thank you for saying what I didn't feel like typing out earlier today (on my work break), but I 100% agree with you.

You don't even have to be this smart to see there was fraud: All you have to do is look at the fishy behavior of the media. They would've demanded for open and clear transparency if this was Trump or Trump Jr involved in the 2020 election, but they suddenly go all tight-lipped and demand social media start banning discussions of all of this, even in private messages! I literally can't fathom how stupid a person must be to think there is absolutely nothing strange going on, the moment they do that, yet spent the last four years crying about "Russian bots" and "Ukraine collusion." The cognitive dissonance of some of these liberals is literally too much for me to comprehend.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@MCheetah Oh yeah, the media is just the lefts "ministry of truth"(read: propaganda wing). Hell I just point out the difference in how Trump was treated when he won vs this time around, they investigated trump for two years with no evidence to justify the investigation and found absolutely nothing, now we have overwhelming evidence and provable misconduct and we are told it was the safest election in history despite the media and democrats telling us that the election was rigged in 2016 yet for some reason this time its safe because their guy won. I keep telling people you can't trust what people say, you have to trust what they do and the media and democrats/leftists tell you a lot about who they are with what they do and none of it good.

I'm telling you the level of brainwashing that has taken place is insane. I didn't even know it was possible to brainwash that many people in a country that has free access to information. I mean they deny this stuff even happened even when you show them videos of it happening. Its fascinating in a dear god we are doomed sort of way.

[MCheetah]

Oh I KNEW it was easy to gaslight and fool people using the media and wokeness. As cringey as it is to bring up nowadays, the first experiment on this crap was Gamergate. That was way back in August 2014. The TL;DR of all of that is, some super shady, super corrupt stuff was going on in video games journalism and they managed to (successfully) sweep ALL OF THEIR misconduct and wrongdoing under the rug by just calling their critics, gamers, "sexists and misogynists." And normies outside of video games 100% fell for it. Their next trial run with Virtue Shielding was Ghostbusters 2016. Nowadays, this sh*t has become commonplace, all throughout the American media.

The only surprising thing to me, isn't the fact that people are this easily fooled. But the fact that people are THIS F*CKING STUPID, in the face of overwhelming evidence. As emotional as I might be able to get, I could never let emotions and bias blind me to the level of the average American Progressive nowadays. Or, all the so-called "Biden Supporters." People's propensity for stupidity has surprised even me.

[hellionthesagereborn]

@MCheetah Oh I knew it could be done but I didn't realize it was that easy in a nation where you literally only have to change the channel/website to get the other information. If we didn't have all of the information avialable at the touch of one's fingers sure, this wouldn't be surprising but this still blows my mind because 90% of their narrative falls apart with just asking one question or looking at a different site/channel.

Oh I'm familiar with gamer gate and how everything got twisted and sjwed when it was originally about journalistic integrity. They tried to pull that shit with several other things (they even attempted it with the heavy metal genre claiming it was homophobic and hated women (despite the fact that Heavy metal has always been the outsiders music and has had gay musicians and female musicians through out its history. Thankfully the heavy metal people don't take shit from people and told the media to go fuck itself, but still the fact that they would even go after that when its not mainstream shows just how much they are trying to take over (as a metal head I'm kind of proud that the community didn't tolerate this bullshit).

And yes that was kind of what I was getting at, the level of stupid is overwhelming. When I first got on this site I was so niave, I thought that if you just presented your argument and provided hard data from reputable sources people would change their mind. Whats it been, eight years maybe, and a total of maybe three people in all of that time actually looked at the data and was convinced. I honestly don't know how people are able to just outright ignore reality, its almost a super power.

[Anonymous]

I never heard of a single person who ever wanted Kamala or Jo Jo to win in the primaries. What I heard were lots of supporters for Tulsi, Yang and Bernie. My guess is that the left wanted Bernie to win the most.
But the establishment swamp wouldn't let the Dems have the candidate of their choice, Somehow the dems were handed dementia Jo, and they just accepted their fate.
And in the previous election the dems wanted Bernie, but the shadow government gave them Hillary.
Only a fool would believe that there's no corruption going on in these elections.

[MCheetah]

This is entirely accurate. No one seems to remember that not only did Liberals sh*T in Biden, left and right, when they thought Bernie was going to be the clear winner, but they even called Biden racist and creepy (which to be fair, he totally is). Social media 100% censored people from even talking about Hunter Biden's crack pipe and laptop. They flat out LIED about Trump colluding with the Ukraine, and that's since been proven.

We see EVERY SINGLE DAY how much the mainstream media lies and makes up stories completely, and how little social media cares about free speech. And yet it absolutely BOGGLES MY F*CKING MIND how people can still be so retarded to support all of this, plus Biden, in the process. Let alone, support all of this and think *everyone else* are the "idiots and blind."

[Opinion Owner]

@MCheetah
Exactly

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks for the MHO

[ThisDudeHere]

It absolutely was. I'm not even American but I would be very pleasantly pleased if he were reinstated (or at least would win in the next election).

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Only a idiot will believe the election was fraudulent.

There's officials and cameras keeping
surveillance at the voting polls for it to be pulled off not to mention it will literally take hundreds if not thousands of people around the country to be involved.

Someone would (Republican or Democrat) would have seen or said something if things didn't seem right with the voting at the polls.

Moreover, leave it to the dummy Trumpees to believe whatever Trump says or claims since Trump is always "right" about everything he says or claims as if he is God himself.

[goaded]

At CPAC, he said that if the straw poll was bad for him, he'd call it fake news, but if it was good, it would be the most accurate poll ever. He literally tells them what we've been saying about him for years, and they applaud him for it!

[Frank_Woods]

I have no idea if there was mass voter fraud. But one thing for sure is the media protected Biden and lied and suppressed the Hunter Biden Scandal. If people knew, Trump probably would have won. Biden should be impeached for his corrupt dealings in Ukraine. He literally sold out his country as VP for dirty money from Ukraine.

[MCheetah]

I'm not exactly a "Trump Supporter" per se (not in the way people frame it), but when you have the media covering up news, en masse, you would have to be retarded to think there's nothing fishy going on there. The more they censor and hide, the more likely it is they stole the election.

[Dazed0N0Confused]

The stupidity is staggering. Federal Judges have thrown the cases out because there is zero proof of what is being claimed. If you have the actual proof, provide it, and pay for everything with your own money. The tax payers are done with the multiple recounts that have led to NOTHING!

[White_Boy_506]

They didn’t care to investigate it properly. Don’t believe the lies and BS they tell you

[Snakeyes7]

They threw it away due to legal standing.

[Lliam]

I'm not a Trump supporter or a Republican or conservative. But I'm certain that the election was stolen. There's so much evidence. And if it wasn't, then the Democrats would be eager to prove it by allowing recounts in contested areas of the country.
The Democrats have become despicable and lost all credibility.

[FilmGuy93]

Not stolen, but we know for a fact that voting policy changes in the years before COVID made all the difference in the world. The policies were practically tailor made to be exploited in a pandemic situation. I can't prove it, but I can't shake the feeling that Covid being released was not an accident. The Chinese had several hundreds of billions of dollars to profit from getting Trump out of office. They can get a way better trade deal now with Biden in charge.

[ThePolishKnight37]

Yes it was and Russia can prove it but they are the Evil Empire you do not want to listen to them. They hacked the elections this time because they wanted to find out who tried to accuse them the last time. Putin is not someone to F with. I am an American and I can tell you we are the Evil Empire not Russia.
It will eventually get out but the rich white people are controlling it for now, because the info can bring down the Secret Society and they know it can.

[joeldalton]

[MCheetah]

@joeldalton
I'm saving this. An unbiased recollection of everything that went down.

[joeldalton]

@MCheetah 👍

[Daniel-Lingl]

Well when you look and see voting turnouts only possible if children are voting, and records of deceased people casting ballots, I like to think it’s common sense at that point.

[Scotte1us]

If some one is claiming a cheat They must be sick , because We have been voting for centuries and happened to be just Donald Trump cheated!!! when some one blames you or suspicious of you doing something just like in our relationships it is always the ones blames there is a cheating are the ones cheated thats why Donald Trump thinks he has been cheated because he is the one cheated in 2016 against Hilary Clinton elections, thats why he thinks that way , and its obvious.

[bolverk]

There was too much mucking about in the urban polling centres for there not to have been something untoward going on and that the polling terminals were not secured are huge Red Flags

[Anonymous]

There's no way that disgusting pig got more votes than Obama.

[normalice]

None of them believe it. They are just playing dumb because they want the stereotype that they are dumb to be painful to everyone else instead of them.

[888theGreat]

We know so , like election in 1960 was stolen from Nixon. Democrats have been stealing elections ever since they were a party.

[SmokinAces2000]

Facts over feelings

[888theGreat]

@SmokinAces2000 thats me , you are the feelings

[SmokinAces2000]

Facts don’t care about feelings

[FiftyOneFifty]

You can't steal an election that is fake to begin with. They are all fake and the elite just put in their puppets.

[Snakeyes7]

I can't say for sure because the courts won't confirm the information.

[BeMuse]

Obviously. That facts show that to be the case.

[BeMuse]

*The

[SmokinAces2000]

I don’t know if the believe it or not but they sound stupid and ignorant regardless

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Sadly , they are living in a dream world