School teacher removes US flag because it makes her feel "uncomfortable." Tells students instead to pledge allegiance to the LGBTQ flag. Thoughts? (Page 2)
Honestly it's no crazier than a bunch of 7 year olds pledging allegiance to the US flag. Or having a flag In every classroom. There's pretty much only one other country who does these things... Any guesses?
Define irony, lives in a country that goes out its way to have gay rights, to say gay over country? You're right, there are not that many countries, except a handful of European countries.
Why are we concerned what other countries do, or do not do?
At least until the last 20 years or so, the US generally set the bar. We always came out strong and believed hard.
Now we are a country of weannies and cry babies. After this year it will be amazing if we don't get invaded. Probably in the last last 200 years of the Union, we are at our worse.
I don't agree with what the teacher had done. Personally, I support the LGBT cause. I believe all of us have the right to be what we want to be and to love who we want. However, I do know that many other people may not share the same views as me. I get she's proud of her beliefs but what she's doing is akin to "forcing" people to share her beliefs as well, which is not right.
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As a Native American, that flag is the flag of the people occupying my home. The flag that was flown as my people were forced arched thousands of miles, many dying along the way, to unknown, undesirable lands because of the color of our skin. That flag was flown by our captors as we starved on reservations, as our children were kidnapped by men flying that flag and brainwashed. It is the flag flown by men who tried to exterminate us for centuries. To ask us to pledge allegiance to it is another sickening form of brainwashing.
The LGBT flag represents love, inclusion, acceptance... Values I'd rather pladge allegiance to any day over hate, racism, and genocide.
How “ brave” of you to post anonymously. Maybe you’d have preferred the treatment from the Chinese or Russians had they landed here first. I can tell you, you wouldn’t be on here, they would have killed every last one of the natives.
Also, the Spaniards killed a lot more Native Americans than the Englishmen have. Unfortunately, some tribes practiced slavery. The Maya empire, Aztec empire, and Inca empire were conquering tribes, and some of those empires even sacrificed other natives to their gods. Not saying it was rightful to commit genocide. No genocide or murder is rightful. It is that which sickens me beyond measure.
@fr44c3iqqs , even the tribes in what is now the United States practiced slavery against all the other tribes, they also took white and Mexican slaves.
@rcljr it wasn't from lack of trying... Genocidal practices against Native Americans have been in place even into the 80s with forced sterilization of Native women...
Furthermore "somebody else would have been worse" is not a reasonable argument to justify atrocities that have happened within your lifetime that you choose to ignore as a society. Nor is incompetence a proper defence of ones actions.
There have been no atrocities against native Americans in my lifetime, AND President Trump, whom I’ll just go ahead and assume you hate did many good things for the Native Americans. After many decades he finally got tribal recognition pushed for the Little Shell Tribe that lived on a bluff outside my hometown in plywood cardboard “ hootches “ even in the dead of winter at -50 degrees (F) so the whole” America bad” “ white man bad” bull shit doesn’t fly with me.
Unfortunately, what you wrote is not accurate at all. There is quite a bit that went on during so called occupation. Some see native Americans as one whole people group, but they are not and they didn't view themselves that way either. There were many tribes, and tribes conquered each other all the time. There wasn't a genocide, but a brutal war.
Yeah well, to the victors go the spoils, be glad you weren’t exterminated as a race outright, or bred out of existence, which by the way is happening now. Tribes in Montana are marrying and breeding with Mexicans so the Mexicans can run drugs from the reservations- well, there goes your holier than thou, Mother Earth, pure blood Native American theory, right out the window of the taco van parked by the teepee…
I'm not American, so I lack any fucks to give here.
However, when I was a boy, we would stand and sing the national anthem every morning and the only person who didn't was this one girl who was a Jehovah's Witness and it was against her religion in some way? I don't know the details, to each their own, I hope to dear fuck if I ever have kids the school makes them do the same damn thing.
I said this when I thought she was pressuring her students to pledge allegiance to the LGBTQ flag. Now that I understand that’s not what the video shows, I withdraw my opinion. I do think she wanted her shot at being famous though.
That thing needs to be burned at the stake for indoctrinating children into her sick ideology. I have no problem with LGB people or even people who truly suffer from gender dysphoria. But I want to see radical, militant LGBTQ activists cry and hide in fear. Their sick agenda isn't about rights, it's destructive and subversive.
I think its past time for every flag to be replaced by the universal symbol of chaos. Give how as a species we seem to thrive on chaos and are constantly creating it. Why not pledge our selves to chaos or the Joker?
I think even as I watched it how she is doing it for show and attention. She fake giggles in the video. It is definitely a problem and she is using her position to try to make a point. This is an abuse of her authority and she should be removed as a teacher because of it. I don’t really care what the issue is, or what someone else’s politics are. Nobody should stand for people abusing their authority over people to try to push their ideas.
Why not put up both flags? Nothing wrong with supporting both the LGBT community and your country. This is very unpatriotic. I don't know why people like this woman have the privilege of living in America smh 😡
Schools should remain in ardent support of kindness and compassion to all, but strictly neutral about sexuality. That's why I don't believe there should be a pride flag in any classroom.
Also, promoting the gay agenda goes against some religious teachings. According to the 1st amendment the government is banned from promoting or discouraging any form of religion.
Yeah, because nothing is more patriotic than throwing away a nation's flag and replacing it with a fictional flag (which looks horrible by the way) in the pursuit of destroying the country by splitting it in half. Wait, didn't this happen before?🤔🤔🤔🤔 Oh yeah, it did, and the same party that did it then is doing it now, we'll beat you again, just wait.
A teacher telling students to say "to hell with America, support IMMORAL lifestyles"... she definitely needs prayed for, but at the same time the school board needs to dismiss her. She obviously picks her own gender, so there you go. She is actually saying, "Screw respect to our country, MY alt. lifestyle means more!". As far as I am concerned, she is a prime example of an A-1 Commie (A. K. A Democrat).
The qualifications to be a teacher have never been set so low before. Antifa is invading classrooms, now that rioting isn't working out. The old liberalism is too conservative for these nutters. So they need grade schoolers to be groomed for Clown World.
Someone should slap her soul to another realm, all this LGBT stuff is getting out of hand, It's all right to support it but they are going overboard with trying to force everyone to worship them, I'd never pledge a rainbow flag
She looks like a pedophile just like half of the San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus who said they were coming for your children. You should probably keep an eye on that one… She probably became a teacher primarily to get close to children.
without the people who died for that flag like my military family she wouldn't have freedom of speech, moron should go back to school or out in the world and get a real education
Please tell me she was at LEAST admitted into a psychiatric ward, and strapped to bed all day. She clearly has a condition that require extreme measures
No one should pledge alliance to any flags, you can do it to a cause. But a country has many agendas and you shouldn't blindly accept and fight for all of them.
Taking into consideration I'm in the UK and therefore amending the question to be an English or British Flag? My first thought was I'd take my kid straight out of there!
She needs to be removed from the class and made to sit in on a civics class. It's not one nation under gays and lesbians. According to the legislators in the 50's it's one nation under God. Choose whichever God you believe in or don't believe in and say the God Damn Pledge. It's your country.
But she didn't replace anything, they used to both be in the class, she removed the American flag, and he suggestion a student pledge allegiance to the pride flag was because the student asked where he should face for the pledge. She basically stated, a flag is a flag, just look at that one.
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Honestly it's no crazier than a bunch of 7 year olds pledging allegiance to the US flag. Or having a flag In every classroom. There's pretty much only one other country who does these things... Any guesses?
Define irony, lives in a country that goes out its way to have gay rights, to say gay over country? You're right, there are not that many countries, except a handful of European countries.
As far as I'm aware the only other countries that ritualistically pledge allegiance to their flag is the Philippines and oh uh South Korea
Why are we concerned what other countries do, or do not do?
At least until the last 20 years or so, the US generally set the bar. We always came out strong and believed hard.
Now we are a country of weannies and cry babies. After this year it will be amazing if we don't get invaded. Probably in the last last 200 years of the Union, we are at our worse.
You're missing the point... It's not normal. It's fucking weird.
I don't agree with what the teacher had done.
Personally, I support the LGBT cause. I believe all of us have the right to be what we want to be and to love who we want. However, I do know that many other people may not share the same views as me.
I get she's proud of her beliefs but what she's doing is akin to "forcing" people to share her beliefs as well, which is not right.
As a Native American, that flag is the flag of the people occupying my home. The flag that was flown as my people were forced arched thousands of miles, many dying along the way, to unknown, undesirable lands because of the color of our skin. That flag was flown by our captors as we starved on reservations, as our children were kidnapped by men flying that flag and brainwashed. It is the flag flown by men who tried to exterminate us for centuries. To ask us to pledge allegiance to it is another sickening form of brainwashing.
The LGBT flag represents love, inclusion, acceptance... Values I'd rather pladge allegiance to any day over hate, racism, and genocide.
How “ brave” of you to post anonymously. Maybe you’d have preferred the treatment from the Chinese or Russians had they landed here first. I can tell you, you wouldn’t be on here, they would have killed every last one of the natives.
Also, the Spaniards killed a lot more Native Americans than the Englishmen have. Unfortunately, some tribes practiced slavery. The Maya empire, Aztec empire, and Inca empire were conquering tribes, and some of those empires even sacrificed other natives to their gods. Not saying it was rightful to commit genocide. No genocide or murder is rightful. It is that which sickens me beyond measure.
@fr44c3iqqs , even the tribes in what is now the United States practiced slavery against all the other tribes, they also took white and Mexican slaves.
@rcljr it wasn't from lack of trying... Genocidal practices against Native Americans have been in place even into the 80s with forced sterilization of Native women...
Furthermore "somebody else would have been worse" is not a reasonable argument to justify atrocities that have happened within your lifetime that you choose to ignore as a society. Nor is incompetence a proper defence of ones actions.
There have been no atrocities against native Americans in my lifetime, AND President Trump, whom I’ll just go ahead and assume you hate did many good things for the Native Americans. After many decades he finally got tribal recognition pushed for the Little Shell Tribe that lived on a bluff outside my hometown in plywood cardboard “ hootches “ even in the dead of winter at -50 degrees (F) so the whole” America bad” “ white man bad” bull shit doesn’t fly with me.
Unfortunately, what you wrote is not accurate at all. There is quite a bit that went on during so called occupation. Some see native Americans as one whole people group, but they are not and they didn't view themselves that way either. There were many tribes, and tribes conquered each other all the time. There wasn't a genocide, but a brutal war.
Yeah well, to the victors go the spoils, be glad you weren’t exterminated as a race outright, or bred out of existence, which by the way is happening now. Tribes in Montana are marrying and breeding with Mexicans so the Mexicans can run drugs from the reservations- well, there goes your holier than thou, Mother Earth, pure blood Native American theory, right out the window of the taco van parked by the teepee…
What will she do if a student claims to be uncomfortable with the Pride flag?
It's the age of people with no hardship want to have some kind of strife.
I'm not American, so I lack any fucks to give here.
However, when I was a boy, we would stand and sing the national anthem every morning and the only person who didn't was this one girl who was a Jehovah's Witness and it was against her religion in some way? I don't know the details, to each their own, I hope to dear fuck if I ever have kids the school makes them do the same damn thing.
I support LGBTQ rights but that’s terrible. I suspect she wants her 15 mins of fame.
I said this when I thought she was pressuring her students to pledge allegiance to the LGBTQ flag. Now that I understand that’s not what the video shows, I withdraw my opinion. I do think she wanted her shot at being famous though.
That thing needs to be burned at the stake for indoctrinating children into her sick ideology. I have no problem with LGB people or even people who truly suffer from gender dysphoria. But I want to see radical, militant LGBTQ activists cry and hide in fear. Their sick agenda isn't about rights, it's destructive and subversive.
In your first sentence, I honestly didn't know, about which flag you were talking.
I think its past time for every flag to be replaced by the universal symbol of chaos. Give how as a species we seem to thrive on chaos and are constantly creating it. Why not pledge our selves to chaos or the Joker?
I think even as I watched it how she is doing it for show and attention. She fake giggles in the video. It is definitely a problem and she is using her position to try to make a point. This is an abuse of her authority and she should be removed as a teacher because of it. I don’t really care what the issue is, or what someone else’s politics are. Nobody should stand for people abusing their authority over people to try to push their ideas.
She wants her 15 mins of fame
Why not put up both flags? Nothing wrong with supporting both the LGBT community and your country. This is very unpatriotic. I don't know why people like this woman have the privilege of living in America smh 😡
Schools should remain in ardent support of kindness and compassion to all, but strictly neutral about sexuality. That's why I don't believe there should be a pride flag in any classroom.
Schools should not support any agenda.
Also, promoting the gay agenda goes against some religious teachings. According to the 1st amendment the government is banned from promoting or discouraging any form of religion.
Yes! This I agree with. And make the pledge voluntary.
Yeah, because nothing is more patriotic than throwing away a nation's flag and replacing it with a fictional flag (which looks horrible by the way) in the pursuit of destroying the country by splitting it in half. Wait, didn't this happen before?🤔🤔🤔🤔 Oh yeah, it did, and the same party that did it then is doing it now, we'll beat you again, just wait.
A teacher telling students to say "to hell with America, support IMMORAL lifestyles"... she definitely needs prayed for, but at the same time the school board needs to dismiss her. She obviously picks her own gender, so there you go. She is actually saying, "Screw respect to our country, MY alt. lifestyle means more!". As far as I am concerned, she is a prime example of an A-1 Commie (A. K. A Democrat).
The qualifications to be a teacher have never been set so low before. Antifa is invading classrooms, now that rioting isn't working out. The old liberalism is too conservative for these nutters. So they need grade schoolers to be groomed for Clown World.
Someone should slap her soul to another realm, all this LGBT stuff is getting out of hand, It's all right to support it but they are going overboard with trying to force everyone to worship them, I'd never pledge a rainbow flag
She looks like a pedophile just like half of the San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus who said they were coming for your children. You should probably keep an eye on that one… She probably became a teacher primarily to get close to children.
She is trying to get children to swear allegiance to homosexuality already. That is part of sexualizing children...
Here's another infiltrator...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83b_u5V51U8
without the people who died for that flag like my military family she wouldn't have freedom of speech, moron should go back to school or out in the world and get a real education
Please tell me she was at LEAST admitted into a psychiatric ward, and strapped to bed all day. She clearly has a condition that require extreme measures
No one should pledge alliance to any flags, you can do it to a cause. But a country has many agendas and you shouldn't blindly accept and fight for all of them.
Taking into consideration I'm in the UK and therefore amending the question to be an English or British Flag? My first thought was I'd take my kid straight out of there!
She needs to be removed from the class and made to sit in on a civics class. It's not one nation under gays and lesbians. According to the legislators in the 50's it's one nation under God. Choose whichever God you believe in or don't believe in and say the God Damn Pledge. It's your country.
I deeply disagree, because I am German. What you describe isbbasically how Hitler rose to power.
@witness1 the NAZIs also tried to rise in the U. S. during the 1930s and never came anywhere close to doing it because americans aren't Germans.
But she didn't replace anything, they used to both be in the class, she removed the American flag, and he suggestion a student pledge allegiance to the pride flag was because the student asked where he should face for the pledge. She basically stated, a flag is a flag, just look at that one.
A flag is a flag? Would she say that about the swastika? About the Stars and Bars?