Why are democrats “my body my choice” with abortion yet are also pro vaccine mandate? Isn’t that hypocritical?

[Pterodon]

They claim my choice to not get vaccinated affects others. Well doesn’t abortion affect another inside you and a fathers rights?

[Lliam]

It's totally hypocritical. It's mindless.

The proven fact is, getting vaxed does NOT protect others. The only claim that the manufactures make is that people who get the jab "may" have milder symptoms if they catch covid. But they can still catch it and transmit it to others. And if they do catch it and have mild symptoms, they are the most likely to be asymptomatic carriers.

Plus, those who have received the jab are responsible for the new variants. In fact, the new variants may actually be material from the vaxes, themselves.

When unvaxed people catch covid and recover, they have killed the virus. They didn't manufacture new variants. Think about it. Did those who recovered from the original SARS create SARS-2 (covid-19)? SARS disappeared within two years as a result of natural herd immunity.

On the other hand, the bodies of those who get the jab are programmed to manufacture spike proteins, and the spike proteins ARE the pathogen.

[Anonymous]

Vaccine mandates are constitutional, laws restricting abortion are unconstitutional. Nuff said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacobson_v._Massachusetts

[Pterodon]

We’ll see

[Pterodon]

You’re missing the hypocrisy which is my point. How can you be my body my choice yet demand I get a vaccine?

[Snakeyes7]

Anon, there is a court case that declared that female rapists can sue their male rape victims for child support, even if they are underage. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermesmann_v._Seyer

Just because there's a court case that allows it, doesn't mean it's moral.

[Opinion Owner]

@Snakeyes7 Which is the moral thing to do get vaccinated so you can protect yourself, family, and community from disease or death, or put yourself and others at risk by not getting vaccinated because one is brainwashed by anti vaxxer lies and conspiracy theories?

[Pterodon]

Not all are brainwashed. It’s a personal choice. You will never prove someone died because of me personally so fuck you

[BillyBalls]

Roe v. Wade was not a sound decision.

Many Constitutional scholars agree on that.

[Snakeyes7]

Anon, you put others at risk regardless of whether or not you get the vaccine. If anything, Biden himself said that we need to protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated. Does that mean he is an anti-vaxxer and a conspiracy theorist?

[Opinion Owner]

@BillyBalls bullshit.

[Opinion Owner]

@Snakeyes7 Your comments ranged from untrue to irrelevant.

[BillyBalls]

If you don't believe Constitutional scholars say Roe v. Wade was decided incorrectly google it.

[Opinion Owner]

@BillyBalls you're the one making that claim so you google it you lazy bitch.

[BillyBalls]

I know what I know.

I don't need to reinforce what I already know.

[Opinion Owner]

@BillyBalls You know what you know which is lies and bullshit.

[Snakeyes7]

How is what I said irrelevent or untrue?

[doopayo]

A father has no rights over his wife’s body. It’s called bodily autonomy, imagine you have a liver. You have a family member that really needs a liver transplant but you don’t want to give them that because the liver is yours. But the family member decides that they have a right to your liver despite it being in their body so you’re forced to have a liver transplant.


That’s the same exact concept when it comes to mothers who want abortion therefore the comparison to a vaccine mandate is lack luster. Conservatives right to not get a vaccine is killing innocent people, there are so many conservative radiohost that were preaching how Covid is a hoax and now they’re diagnosed with Covid or have died due to Covid. Many people just want to get this virus over with and get back to living their normal life’s.


Phil Valentine and Marc Bernier, both conservative talk radio hosts, both died of Covid after vocally opposing vaccination.

[Pterodon]

But a father does have rights over what’s in her body and you will never prove my refusal to get vaccinated killed somebody. Prove it was me that did it.

[doopayo]

Let’s change the question. Does the wife have a right to what’s inside her husbands body?

If she needs a heart transplant the husbands obligated to give that to her regardless if he consents to having it or not? Right

[Pterodon]

A wife cannot create another life in a man

[Pterodon]

I can produce another life in you and just because it’s in your body does not automatically give you the last say

[doopayo]

Says who, that concept disregards the bodily autonomy of the wife. If the mans not ok with her decision he can use his bodily autonomy to get out of the relationship.

“Just because it’s in your body doesn’t give you the last say” says only you and republicans who are pro birth.

“I can produce another life in you” you do realize men by themselves, alone aren’t capable of making a baby. The mothers the one that’s carrying in her womb, you aren't the one carrying a baby in your womb so your opinion on weather she should keep the baby doesn’t matter.

Abortion is one of the only medical situations in which people try to insist that somehow a grown woman shouldn’t have the right to choice what she does with her ow body. You wouldn’t tell a cancer patient they shouldn’t get treatment, “because just cause it’s in their body they don’t have the last say?”

[Pterodon]

No it isn’t. You try and tell me I must get vaccinated. It’s my body my choice right?

[doopayo]

You’re right, but you’re missing the point.

Increasing numbers of people who are not vaccinated. are potentially vulnerable to infection and simultaneously become the source of disease spread. Vaccinations against life-threatening diseases are one of the greatest achievements in the history of public health, thanks to which it is possible to prevent millions of premature deaths.

Which is why the existing epidemiological situation and the popularity of anti-vaccine movements force authorities to create specific methods, which will serve the health and safety of the community.

An example I’ll give is measles, mumps, and other old diseases are coming back even though they’ve been gone for a long time due to parents refusing to vaccinate their children.

In these cases it’s a public health concern which goes beyond public safety. It’s impossible for every single crucial decision to be made liberally, it’s a fantasy. We can’t let anti Vax people bring back old diseases just because they claim its their bodily autonomy.

[Pterodon]

You do not have the right to force me to get vaccinated period.

[UCrayCray]

But you do have the right to force a woman to have a baby?

[Pterodon]

@UCrayCray as a father yes because the baby is half mine

[doopayo]

You have no rights to an unborn baby, and technically a baby that’s been born would just be yours.. there’s no such things as it being half of yours

[Pterodon]

I’d win in court

[doopayo]

You wouldn’t, there are already laws on this. Sorry to disappoint you

Before a child is born, very little can be done from a legal standpoint. When a child is prenatal, or the female is pregnant, your rights as the father are very limited. While the mother is pregnant she remains the only one with rights over the unborn baby.

The Supreme Court does not give rights to the father of an unborn child to prevent abortion. Fathers do not have to be notified prior to an abortion, the decision is left entirely in the hands of the mother.

[Pterodon]

Times have changed

[UCrayCray]

Why are you “my body my choice” with vaccines yet feel that you tell a woman what she can and can’t do with her body?
Isn’t that hypocritical?

[Pterodon]

@UCrayCray what’s inside her isn’t just hers

[UCrayCray]

How many things do you carry in your body while being told it’s not yours?

[Pterodon]

@UCrayCray stupid irrelevant point

[UCrayCray]

To you it is. It’s easy to dismiss all a woman has to go through with pregnancy and child birth when you never have to worry about being held to the same standard. I have yet to talk to a pro-life man who gives any consideration to what a woman contributes.
“I can produce a life in you….”
All you, huh big guy. The women’s body literally does nothing huh?
Give me a break ffs. I recommend you learn how reproduction actually works. Your contribution to the growing of the fetus is virtually nothing. But you want all the say.
Typical

[Pterodon]

@UCrayCray again the child is half mine

[UCrayCray]

“ stupid irrelevant point”

[Anonymous]

It is

[Derekk]

The vaccine mandate means you have to vaccinate if you want to be granted access to a place that you don't own. You own your body. That's the difference.

[Gwenhwyfar]

No more than people who hate abortion but love the death penalty. It’s all a matter of context.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah, "my body, my choice" PERIOD.

Don't fuck with my bodily autonomy and I won't fuck with yours.

[jimmy2]

You want abortion but bitch about killing an imnate

[BillyBalls]

Stop it!!!

You are talking logic.

Liberals head explode when they hear logic.

[Iron_Man]

Yes they are and they’re very spoiled and throw temper tantrum‘s if they don’t get their way

[doopayo]

Ofc, I remember that time when democrats raided the capitol to try and overturn the election for joe Biden

[Pterodon]

@doopayo what does that have to do with my question? Stop deflecting. Since you brought up the capitol and my question is about hypocrisy, how do you explain blm burning, looting, defacing monuments in DC and not a single one prosecuted yet all at the capitol are being prosecuted with far less damage?

[Pterodon]

Want to scream white priveledge and racism some more?

[BillyBalls]

@Pterodon Doopayo can't handle logic.

She blocked me because she could not counter any of my points on racial issues.

[noohair]

A good observation. How about the people that are anti-abortion but favor the death penalty.

[Anonymous]

Like how conservatives tend to be pro life but also tend to be against vaccines and masks that are meant to keep people alive.

Every group has some level or hypocrisy. That's life.

[Pterodon]

Nobody agrees with you

[Pterodon]

We’re not against vaccines. We’re pro choice on that. Abortion on the other hand DIRECTLY affects another. Me not getting a vaccine you will NEVER prove my action resulted in someone else’s life

[Opinion Owner]

Tell that to those that are anti vax. I'm also not out to prove anything. It's common sense, but that's on your head.

[Anonymous]

Freedom only seems to apply to females. not males
and they are shitheads

[Nachowedgie]

Very