s Of course they won't be ok with it, but in the end all this was from anti-vaxxers was an opportunity to co-opt something and turn it into a parody of what it was supposed to be about. This happens way too often and shows little in the way of respect or creativity on their ends.
I do have to turn this around on the pro-vaxxers as well (I have already had both my vaccines in March for full disclosure). Should we have to force someone to willfully not put themselves at risk?
I know your next thought is about those who can't get the shot themselves and trust me, I am with you on that. The next thought after that is, "yeah but Bri, one is ending the life of one before it begins and the spreading of a pandemic has killed millions". Again I agree with you.
So why would I be defending anti-vaxxers/mask people? Well simply put, we can't have it both ways. If we want autonomy of our bodies to allow for our own choices in pregnancy or termination of one, then we have to allow them to make their own choices as well.
My only real problem is their inability to return the same courtesy. Their mindset of "Free speech for me, but not for thee" is maddening.
Also, two additional points.
¹absolutely should men be forced to have reversible vasectomies. A man in theory could impregnant several women a day. A woman can just get pregnant the once (yes im fully aware of the rare times a woman technically gets pregnant twice and has two different baby fathers at the same time). I doubt a lot of volunteers will step forward to give up sex so, if they are OK with a woman going through a medical procedure to ensure birth control, they should need to go through it too.
²for those using your religion to condemn others for their choices. Please return to your scripture for the part about not judging others. You may just find yourself with the same sinners you cast stones at.
I'm interested in seeing the replies. I'm personally pro choice, though I advocate for more proper sex education and birth control tools to prevent as many abortions as possible. It's dumb that people claim they want body autonomy on vaccines (something NEEDED to rpevent illnessess) but won't let a woman make an already tough choice. No woman WANTS to have an abortion, it's a choice they usually NEED to make.
People are 'my body my choice' when it comes to the vaccine, in response to those who are 'my body my choice' when it comes to abortion.
The latter tend to be a bunch of hypocrites and have no problem with circumcising a baby boy, because 'my body my choice' doesn't apply to them and combine that with pulling out the victim card and that makes for a great argument.
Opinions on circumcision?
'I say yes do it'
Why do you think it is ok to have an abortion?
'Because it is ok.'
The amount of hypocrisy is unreal 😂, but for some reason, it's okay
If people can do what they want to their own body, then they have every right to choice not to get vaccinated for a 'deadly' disease that has crazy high recovery rate and I mean what's going to happen, is a none-vaccinated person going to pass it onto someone who's already vaccinated 😂, yeah, that'll kill them, which would defeat the entire purpose of the vaccine, which doesn't even stop you from passing it on to people.
I love how people who claim to believe in freedom and yet want to control people's lives.
Well suggesting every man getting a vasectomy is violating men's body choices.
But I am all for abortion considering the number of kids born in misery to parents who never wanted them and were not fit to raise them.
I am agaisnt someone unable to provide a happy healthy life to a kid actually having one.
In fact I believe that men should either get a say in abortion or have the right to disown the kid entirely. So that no woman can get herself pregnant from a man and then hold that against him saying it's his kid and he has to provide for him.
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u I am vaccinated but don't feel that those who oppose should be forced to get vaccinated.
I also don't feel that unborn children should be forced to surrender their lives because being born would be inconvenient for someone else.
Completely missing the point. First off the argument is reversed, the left says her body her choice until it comes to the vaccine at which point to hell with the persons body and choice only the left gets to determine what you do with it. That is what the argument is. Second my body my choice doesn't apply to abortions because its quite literally NOT YOUR BODY. Thats like a mother murdering her ten year old child and saying its her body her choice, no one in their right mind would think that was rational. A fetus isn't your body, you chose to get pregnant (because in this day and age yes its a choice), you chose to have sex you chose to have sex with out a condom you chose not to have him pull out, you chose to get pregnant, now some one else exists and you dont get to murder them because you find their existence inconvient for you. So its not even an applicable argument to abortion. Completely separate genetic code from the mother equals not her body.
I support abortion, however, the issue with that is, the woman doesn't create the baby by herself. If we were to go by your logic, then fathers should have literally 0% responsibility for the child. Yet, you never hear women going "my body, my choice" when child support is ever brought up, do you?
Not to mention, the COVID vaccine is virtually untested and already proven to be unsafe, especially the Johnson & Johnson one. I'm all for "my body, my choice," but that bullsh*t works both ways. If the woman has 100% reproductive rights and the father has literally NO RIGHTS AT ALL, then the father also has no legal responsibilities to that child, as well (not that I agree with absentee fathers, but that's the logic).
@Dazed0N0Confused, what is your response to this, and do you think it's fair that two people make a baby, but only one has 100% legal control of all the decisions regarding it (except for monetary ones)?
"It is a fetus, a bunch of cells, ot isn't a baby until a heartbeat & brain function awake."
Liar.
God's Word says you have a soul, an anointing, and a calling before your physical body is even formed in the womb. (Jeremiah 1:1-5)
I got the vaccine, twice, and I'll take the booster too.
I think anti-vaccin crowd are disobeying God... and I KNOW abortionists are disobeying God.
You're all evil. The proof is in the fact you PROVABLY lie about your own beliefs. And the disgusting thing is now that you've been publicly rebuked for it, you'll report me to the moderators and have me deleted and banned, and then you'll post the same thing or something almost identical again an hour or a day or a week from now.
Get over it. You're evil.
They don't already. As long as the pay for their own abortions rather than saddling taxpayers. Should also be a rule that women are only allowed two abortions, after that you are a stupid bitch and should pay for your mistake rather than being a burden on the health care system.
Don't bother with these conservative bullshit spoutists lmao. They are unscientific enough to reject the idea that at the early stage of pregnancy the "baby" is just a bunch of cells, selfish enough to refuse a vasectomy and myopic enough to not recognise your comparison.
I mean let's not forget sperm cells are also cells with the potential to bear life, so should it be a crime to use spermicide? Or to lead to the death of sperm in any other way?
Note: "My body my choice" is just another anti-vax platitude to justify their views against vaccines.
Note 2: "Reversible vasectomy" does not exist. There's a chance that vasectomy may be reversed later in the future but it's an expensive and strenuous process and there's no guarantee it will work. Men who get vasectomies do so with the suggestion that they will never recover totally functioning genitalia again.
Fine by me!
Personal experience, again, proves to me that they can be necessary. I got my ex-fiance preggers once and, although we were hoping to keep it, her Dr. told her that, if she was going to keep it, she'd have to spend the rest of the 9 months in bed and, there's was a very good chance the kid would be another stillborn (she'd already had one with her ex-hubby before me and it REALLY freaked her out because, it was too far along to abort when it died so, she walked around in a daze for the last few months knowing she had a dead baby inside of her!!). Well, she didn't want to risk THAT again so, she had to abort. There was also a chance she would've died just having the baby. I certainly would've loved having a kid, especially with her but, I don't blame her at all for what she had to do!! The kid would've been 26 or 27 by now.
Fetal brain function begins around 22 weeks and responds to pain stimuli at around the 25th week. I suppose prior to that you are free to vacuum that bundle of cells out as you see fit. Frankly I favor self eugenic policy as those participants in this are doing the world a favor by removing their DNA from the human record. I just don’t care to be taxed for the practice or have it subsidized through paying higher medical premiums. Not it or any other voluntary medical procedure, say for example, sexual reassignment. It’s my lone bone of contention…
That's something totally different, it's your choice to get vaccinated or not but it ain't a woman's choice to have an abortion if she's married if there is no danger on her life!
The husband's decision counts which means a woman can't have an abortion if the husband doesn't accept it!
The vaccine ain't a life, the vaccine ain't made by 2 people and the vaccine have risks... etc
You combined a totally 2 different things under the name "my body my choice", this feminist slang should be burned!
This is silly because THEY pulled the uno reverse card out on YOU, now you're trying to do it back to them.
The reason they're saying "my body my choice" is to point out the illegitimacy of what (some) left-wing individuals claim. It clearly isn't about people having the choice over their bodies if they're trying to force people to vaccinate. They're literally using your words against you. They didn't randomly come up with the phrase, which otherwise should be something they're held to, they're saying "by your own standards, I should not be forced to vaccinate."
Lastly, you could argue a baby's body is not your body. So your argument is questionable from multiple different angles.
I support "my body my choice" when it comes to abortion but I don't support "my body my choice" when it comes to vaccines. There is a big difference.
People who refuse to get vaccinated are not only affecting themselves but it affects anyone in the surroundings. And for spreading the virus, they had the choice to get vaccinated or not but they didn't chose to. So they can still be at fault for killing anyone with their choice.
Abortion doesn't affect anyone else in the surrounding and of course the fetus doesn't count as an "anyone" because those "anyone" i talk about has to have a name, reputation and of course being born. So yes it's their body and their choice. It doesn't affect anyone aside from those people who just takes it so personally.
Your question is flawed. The vaccine really does ONLY affect the body of the person making the decision while abortion affects a baby who cannot make a choice. By comparing abortion to taking the vaccine, you are making an apples to oranges comparison. If I chose to have the vaccine or not, that choice affects me and only me. If a woman has an abortion, the baby dies whether or not it wanted to live. So "my body my choice" is not a valid argument for abortion but is valid for the vaccine.
I see the economy and political-social on the verge of collapse where the spoiled are going to get a serious taste of reality soon, and then I read that these f-ed hypothetical-s are still on some minds. “My body my choice” will be substituted with “my potato you starve.”
Haven't you learned yet that a lot of people only promote a narrative when it suits them/their interests? And use excuses, deflection, and exceptionalism when called out on the precedents and implications of their position?
I bet someone has already told you it's not the same thing, or it doesn't apply to stuff like abortion.
Maybe when some women stop using it as a form of birth control. I know of this girl that got pregnant three times because she was drunk and didn't use protection. Went and had them all three aborted. They need to learn to use protection or close their damn legs.
I think that abortions should be allowed if the woman was raped. If the pregnancy is a threat and could kill the mother or baby or both. It should not be allowed because some girl got crazy on Spring Break.
I've said this before that a great compromise would be, more gun rights... expand them, legalize them for everyone, no background checks and at the same time keep abortion legal.
Both topics are situations where the other side wants to restrict it... so compromise.
Okay first off, I am all for abortion. I think it's ridiculous force women to do something with THEIR body.
Secondly, I haven't taken the vaccine and don't plan on it. It's my risk to take. If you get the vaccine and it lowers your chances significantly of getting covid, that's your choice. My whole life, I've remained as natural as possible. No medication, no pills, etc. My choice.
It is not the same thing in that instance. If you choose to not vaccinate you still have to wear mask to help not spreading anything. However if you abort baby what about father's choice? Also did baby have choice either? If you chose different scenario it might have held more weight.
You can have your abortions all you like , i dont care.
My problem with abortion is how lightly women think of it.
Abortions wouldn't even be necessary if women were more responsible.
Remember: your body, your choice and your responsibility. You dont get to tell men to get a vasectomy because you're too lazy to get pills or condoms
Sure. But 2 things.
1. Pay for your own abortions. Don't be using my tax dollars
2. If a woman chooses to keep the baby, the man shouldn't have to pay any child support if he doesn't want to and he can opt out of fatherhood
You ain't making me look like a hypocrite 😉
