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While I understand the point the guy is trying to make, I believe in freedom of expression. I don't think having tattoos effects your ability to do the job. So what is she supposed to do? Tattooed people need to earn a living too.
Yes, absolutely.
You have freedom of expression, but that does NOT mean freedom from consequences. No one will stop you from getting tattoos, but when you get them, you already know perfectly well that visible tattoos are going to be a pretty serious roadblock for corporate or most "image"-focused work like sales. If you choose to get visible tattoos anyway, then YOU have CHOSEN to limit your future options.
Visible tattoos make many people uncomfortable (including lots of customers and clients), and are considered to be "unprofessional" in a great many professions. It's not going to be a problem if you're a roofer, but no one is going to hire you to represent their company unless that company is part of the "alt culture" already.
What you want is freedom from consequences - freedom from responsibility - and that, my friend, is a no-go. Getting tattoos is a CHOICE, and it's a choice that everyone knows comes with consequences. Being a porn star, or cross-dresser, or a slob, are all choices that come with consequences. No one is going to stop you from making those choices, but if you do, you almost certainly will suffer the consequences from doing so.
Yes it is if it’s going to affect the success of the company. And taking this woman with face tattoos and devilish satanic tattoos visible - Your staff having devil tattoos on their faces or throats will scare away some customers/patients/clients from the company/store/clinic/daycare or whatever, affecting profit and sales negatively. You can argue people shouldn’t care but reality is many people do so it makes no sense for companies to hire people like that, at least not for positions where you have to greet or work with people. What if someone like that works at a daycare and scare the kids with their devil tattoos or explain to the kids what they are, how do you think their christian parents will feel about their kids being thaught that, or do you think they even want to hand off their kids to people like that in the first place? They’ll likely to pick a different daycare. Or a 95 year old christian at a nursing home being cared for by someone with satan on their face? You don’t even have to be religious for it to make you uncomfortable. It’s just not appropriate or considerate. You carefully have to think about things like how it would affect your chances of getting a job or a career before getting tattoos. Especially if the tattoos are going to be visible (like face, neck, hands) and be controversial or provocative.
No one should be discriminated against due to something which is not under their control. Race is not under your control. Age is not under your control. Sex is not under your control. However the decision to get a tattoo IS under your control. It is a choice. Therefore, an employer is within its rights to discriminate against tattooed people, just as they would discriminate based on criteria such as education, experience, communication skills, personal achievements or scores of other benchmarks. Every potential employee has the right to work, and every employer has the right to determine who works for them. The only time workplace discrimination cannot and should not occur is when it’s based on something outside the individual’s control.
I do feel bad when someone gets a tattoo as the result of a single bad decision and they must live with that forever (tho it may be removable I don't know). That doesn’t make them a bad person or unqualified. It just diminishes their marketability and allows for justifiable discrimination.
I am very much into freedom of expression, however I am also realistic (which does clash with my right of freedom of expression).
if you are out shopping, there are two sales people a guy with full face tattoo or a girl with no facial tattoos, who do you think the majority of people will buy from?
Life is hard and it’s not fair, people can’t get jobs because of age, skin colour, clothing their wear to interviews, obviously companies will make the same decisions based on where the person is working and the role they will fill.
It’s not fair, however it’s also unfair they discriminate against skin colour, age, gender, clothing, piercings, etc, life is inherently unfair and to a level does not give a shit about individuals.
Similar thing, should a woman be allowed to wear a full Nigab or Burqa?
what about hiring a guy that wants to wear a dress or skirt?
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Most chefs are tattooed and have little problem finding a job. I think the problem is most of the time it's not about artistic expression, it's about wanting to look like a bad boy and that makes them think you'll be trouble. Personally I wouldn't employ anyone heavily tattooed incase they stole stuff.
If I was going to buy a new car it wouldn't be from one of these. Oh hell no!
I think it depends on the job really. If you're customer facing, it could scare off potential customers especially something like facial tattoos and some piercings. It's not right to discriminate, but I can understand not wanting to put them in that role.
yes, you have no right to make yourself all weird and then expect that I "have to hire you" when I think you might cause issues with clients.
do I have a right... no... a demand... to work in your tatoo parlor... If I smell like cow manure on a summers day, because that's the colone I grew up with on the farm?
of course not.
there are positions, especially customer facing once, where appearance is critical. And there people with tattoos in visible places rarely are hired.
so in the moment when a person decides about a tattoo should think about their possible future job and some limits which can appear...
it's normal... making a decision and bearing the consequences...
I think it's extremely fair. The way my employees present themselves in front of customers while acting on behalf of my business is a reflection of my business' image and values.
That person chose to get tattooed. At the end of the day, they have to be willing to live with the consequence of those choices; especially if they got tattooed in a way that can't be easily covered up. I'd be happy to employ a tattooed person for a position that doesn't deal with customers. But for anything forward facing; that crisp and clean image is too important to risk.
They aren't allowed to, doesn't mean some won't find loopholes.
I don’t think you should discriminate against anyone
No I think everyone should be equal so let the person work
Don't put tattoos where they can't be hidden. A company has every right to discriminate because you are essentially the face of the company. They don't need to get backlash or potentially loose customers because they have a dumb fuck with demon tattoos working there.
Getting gross tattoos that are visible is a voluntary act. Discriminating against someone of a particular race is very different. Many businesses don't want to be represented by people with gross visible tattoos and I can understand why.
Yes, because certain types of people tend to be more likely to get certain tattoos than other types of people. And not in a good way.
Getting a tattoo is elective. It goes against what mainstream culture and society considers professional. If a business owner doesn't want someone with a tattoo to represent their business then they have a right to not hire someone. A business owner isn't obligated to care about someone's feelings while hiring.
No, but some employers may believe tattooed folk would frighten away potential customers, i. e., business.
Your choice to cover yourself with tattoos, you are responsible for the consequences, not others.
Companies have the right to protect their image. In the corporate world it's very hard to take tatted people seriously.
Ehhh. They could have something racist tattooed on them and only find out when they start getting complaints.
Nope.
fair or not, it should be their right.
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