I don't feel bad for people that can't understand this simple math. Condoms are very cheap.
Do you have pity for people who F**k themselves into poverty?
I don't feel bad for people that can't understand this simple math. Condoms are very cheap.
Almost any license is actually a right that's been stolen and sold back to you.
We should not have to pay to heat our homes or put food on the table.
Mandatory stuff like sending kids to school should not also come with a hefty cost.
A family shouldn't have to sacrifice or have money drives to raise money for a surgery to save their child.
Making up 70% of the planet, why must we pay for water? A life necessity that one can die in as little as 3 days without that gets turned off and locked if the bill is not paid.
No average person makes enough to do everything without cutting corners somewhere or skipping something that month.
My main need for money at all all is all the people breathing down my neck wanting it from me so I can live on a planet that belongs to us all that we are born naturally onto as natural living beings as wild and free as any bird or tree.
Most struggle in the search for how to make more money instead of ways to make less need for it.
I find it hard to understand why someone struggling on their own would have a baby, struggle with child 1, then have child 2 and 3.
I realise there are valid reasons as to how this could happen but I must include blind stupidity as one of them.
@exitseven nothing wrong with that kids don't need everything
@exitseven if the two of you made it work (without killing one another), hats off to you - it couldn't have been easy.
I answered WowwGirl's question mainly in the context of serial single mothers rather than an atomic hard working couple.
@exitseven nothing good is easy
Many people make mistakes that get them into poverty.
Not agreeing with someone's life choices doesn't change the fact they are suffering along with their children. Them having something that is a weakness or making a stupid mistake or two shouldn't make them less of a person that doesn't deserve our sympathy. We all have flaws does this mean no human deserves sympathy
I think America is too judgmental of everything everyone does and only look at 1 aspect of that person's life and judge them as a person.
Some people can afford children have them and something causes them to lose their income and no longer can afford them.
All of us at anytime could lose our income. Nothing is guaranteed.
The real question is if you fell on hard times would you want people look down on the way you look down on them?
Yes I feel bad for the kids
I've been in hard times by things not caused by my own actions and no I wanted no pity
Not the adults, no. Kids yes
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We can't account for all the decisions a person is going to make and that does apply to people we are in a relationship with. You could have a couple that is stable and decide to have a child. Only for one of them to to make some decisions that lead to the other raising their child alone and fighting to keep both the child and themselves from falling into poverty.
Life be extremely complicated and it can get to the point where an exception has several exceptions attached to it. So if it's a case of people being stupid about sex and getting pregnant I have no petty for anyone but the child. I'm just not going to judge tell I know tell I know how the pregnancy came about and what happened after.
Yeah I have pity for most people. In the UK we have a prime minister who had the most expensive education going but still has loads of illegitimate children but his government punishes the poorest people who may have ended up being single mothers. So yeah I've got love for the people that find themselves in a situation that if they'd been born into riches they wouldn't of had to experiences. Don't blame the people, blame the society that allows the poorest people to be judges worse than the richest people.
Your so right !!! it pisses me off
They don't feed their kids and don't teach their kids they don't have no kids they don't love their kids when you have a child you have to raise that child to become bigger and better than you and that does cost money and it also takes time and patience and love and not being selfish I have a friend I don't even know if they're friends or not but if I'm in that neighborhood I'll swing by his house just because he has two kids and every time that I go over there those kids are hungry need you when I'm in the neighborhood I'll just stop by McDonald's and I'll buy them something to eat the kids not the parents they can go fuck themselves and every time that I have bought food and brought it over there to those kids they don't say one word except for thank you and they start eating. And sometimes I feel guilty cuz I know I can go over there every single night and feed those kids and they will eat it
Nope. Not even a little bit. If you know you cannot afford to care for children and you have them anyway, you're a piece of shit that hates your own seed to the point that you WANT them to suffer from poverty.
It's 2021. There are so many options for preventing pregnancy, choosing not to and to bring your kids into poverty makes you a piece of shit. Like seriously, if you can't even afford a $3-$4 pack of condoms, you shouldn't be having sex in the first place.
It takes more than 100k a year to raise a child that will enjoy its own life... a master's degree easily costs $250k...1st class flights to various destinations is expensive... just examples.
The sad part is the people who think all these "luxuries" aren't necessary to be really really happy also dont have the care, love, and appreciation necessary to have their own kids
Maybe your parents spoiled you with all that stuff. My kids never went to Disneyworld and when they went to college they went to good schools that were not as prestigious as others but were offered good financial packages. They were not 50K a year. We bought them good cars, not new but 2-3 years old. They all graduated with degrees in math and science and are doing well living on their own. We were not rich by ant stretch of the imagination but apparently we got more bang for the buck than your parents did.
@exitseven I've been pricing schools and it's sadly about 10+k a year. That's not even a special needs school
@exitseven yes
Same here, it's sad. I have a fily member that had their first child, can't afford it, had a second child, still can't afford it, and want a third.. They're on state assistance and constantly beg us for money which we won't give.
I feel bad for folks in poverty period. I used to be very judgmental.
Especially of other "Black" men. Last year, I stopped doing that. I actually started buying homeless guys breakfast or a cup of coffee that I met on the street.
Am I too hard on men? And am I too hard on "Black" men especially?
Of that I am absolutely certain. Everyone has to make their own decisions.
Nope. I grew up poor and stayed that way when I was first an adult, but I worked my ass off to make a better life for myself. People didn't feel sorry for me or help me so screw them. they can take care of themselves.
They already get benefits that my taxes pay for and since I am single I am taxed MORE than people with kids so I am punished for being responsible and others are rewarded for being irresponsible.
I feel bad for the children that will have to suffer cause their parents weren't prone to making smart decisions.
We got a show here where I'm from which when I translate it it's called "Make my wish come true" where the host and his camera crew collect money from the viewers and then they go to some poor family and purchase them groceries and stuff like that. And all those families have something in common, they most of the time have like 4/5 kids minimum, it's just sad to watch those kids struggle cause they didn't ask to be born under those circumstances.
I usually don't feel that much for the parents cause it's their fault that the children are suffering and are having a fucked up childhood and probably they will end up in poverty themselves.
Actually, as a guy I'm better off getting a lot of women pregnant than just 1 or 2. Technically, child support is calculated by taking into account the number of children, so if you have 1 or 2, you may be paying out 500-1000 per month. One guy has 27 kids and only pays $5 per kid per month.
I agree with you that is why it's best for these types of people to use protection I know this girl who has a mom who has special needs and here this girl turned to drugs and her mom was raising her kids well from what I can see this girls kid were placed in foster care or adopted out so sad
No but not for what you think I don’t because they don’t have a hustlers mentality children are a blessing it’s never their fault idc what you were doing before but once you have a child you gotta work for two nowadays people are too complacent and selfish and don’t think about the next man even if it’s their own sht is pathetic
I believe in redemption. A dumb woman who made dumb mistakes but it trying to do better work multiple jobs and go to school while raising a kid… I’ll help them if I can… but a lazy baby momma is a waste of time and space.
It is so easy to judge people. I had graduated from college with a high GPA, and suddenly it seemed everything turned against me. I could not find a job, ran out of money and my parents refused to help me, and then I was homeless and hungry. Many of us are a few paychecks from poverty. I have learned to be thankful and when I see a homeless person, I don’t judge them anymore.
Well, people with large families may end up better off in the long run unless you think that Social Security and Medicare are sustainable (and every economist, demographer or actuary will tell you they aren't even in the same universe as sustainable).
Nope I feel bad for myself that the government keeps raising my taxes to take care of them
Some of them are even so dumb they actually want the kids too.
Sex should only be between married couple, that's my opinion and if others wants to have sex, than they should take extreme precautions and safety, it's not all about the money, what about the baby who will come to this world without parents and family and to grow knowing that he was undesired or a mistake... etc
Not at all.
They are in turn also fucking the lives of their children.
Don't have kids if you can't afford it.
Same I agree. I also hate rich people who don't pay taxes and get away with it.
I know how to mind my business and not judge other people's situations that I don't know anything about. Especially not when there are people working 2 and 3 jobs and still struggling while the rich sit on their ass and get richer. 🤷🏾♀️
It's better off that kids are poor so they don't get spoiled. And 20k a year? That number seems a bit high. There is no way I spend that much on my kiddos a year
People circumstances change very quickly, empathy and compassion are free, I don't judge the choices of others, I have no idea what their circumstances were or how they ended up in poverty...
20K is an UNDERESTIMATE, especially when you take into account post-education or specialty training!
I have RADICAL views about this.
Sorry. This is a sore point with me.🤪🤣
I would never have a kid if i am not financially stable in life
I agree , those people
To me are scumbags and only care about themselves
I feel bad for them, but also feel disgusted with their stupid behavior.
I have 4 children, it is absolutely not $20K PER child. It is closer to $6K per child and we live in an expensive area.
So how do you afford designer baby clothes and new toys on an almost daily basis and hand made ethically sourced organic customized high chair with just $6000?
@bamesjond0069 I think more like 75k myself
@bamesjond0069: The marginal cost for the next children declines significantly, plus there are hand-me-downs and you can buy almost everything used. I have four kids too.
@bamesjond0069: I think that's a good option for some families, but it's hard to live on one salary, which is why I usually don't recommend it. I won't do it myself although I'm pretty qualified to.
Don’t get me wrong. A lot of people can easily spend $20k per child. If you factor in a Disney vacation, that’s easily achievable
I pity their children, knowing how eager people will be to keep the child starving and uneducated just to make the mother feel bad.
No they made their choices. We had kids young and were broke. But are young enough to enjoy our life now.
Condoms also fail sometimes. No birth control is 100% effective
condoms are only 98% effective. That means out of every 100 people who use them, 2 pregnancies will result. You can still get pregnant while relying on condoms. And there is no birth control that is 100% effective. There's just not. You can be medically sterile and still have children in some cases. Life finds a way and all that.
All I'm hearing is someone that doesn't understand how statistics work. Also just because you're financially stable at one point doesn't mean you'll always be financially stable. People in poverty with kids could have made any number of logical, smart decisions and still ended up where they are now because of sheer bad luck.
In real life, condoms are at best only 85% effective. If condoms are used perfectly, then they're 98% effective, but nobody really uses it "perfectly."
@tatianamay yeah for real, you think people that are about to have sex are gonna be like "oh hey babe I don't think you've got enough of an air bubble at the tip of the condom. Better take that one off and put on another one." or "was this condom kept in an ideal environment and not just in your wallet for the last 2 years?" 98% is at the best of times. I think the reason behind people insisting that birth control is 100% effective is just because they don't want to consider that they might do everything right and still have accidentally get pregnant. Kinda like those people that insist that chronic physical and mental illnesses only happen to people who do things wrongs
Nope, not an ounce.
Sucks for the kids, but what can you do? Sterilize one of the parents I guess, but that seems draconian.
No. NO ONE should have kids before they at least have a concrete plan of how to provide for them, and themselves.
Kids aren't that expensive. Smh.
I do feel bad for them and what's worse is I think we are looking to the wrong people to solve them.
I feel bad for the children, but also don't endorse abortion. This lustful world will be cleansed in flame soon enough.
Some people have poor impulse control. Also, condoms aren't foolproof.
no and I don't like how my tax dollars pay for their bad decisions
No because u srsly don’t know what Life brings what kind of twisted situations occur and how people can fuck u over
UK here. If you have kids the government will pay you to bring them up.
So only rich people should be allowed to have kids?
You’re right
Totally agree
I pity no one for the most part
Kinda guess it wasn't planned lol
There is a job at planned parenthood for you.
Well said!
That's why I support abortion
this is why im fine with abortions for the poor
I don’t hate on them, but it is their fault
I have no pity
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