"Wonderful to see Colin Powell, who made big mistakes on Iraq and famously, so-called weapons of mass destruction, be treated in death so beautifully by the Fake News Media," Trump said in a statement released Tuesday morning. "Hope that happens to me someday. He was a classic RINO, if even that, always being the first to attack other Republicans. He made plenty of mistakes, but anyway, may he rest in peace!"VOTE BELOW!
Donald's words warm the cockles of my heart. Former President Trump is a true statesman.
WTF? Are you serious?
This is pretty vile, even by Trump's standards.
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Colin Powell and others based their conclusions on lies that were told to the US government by an Iraqi informant. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant) Donald Trump told lies about COVID-19. He called the pandemic a "hoax." He also spent months lying that he won the 2020 Presidential Election. This caused the insurrection on January 6th.
Donald Trump just commented on the death of Colin Powell. How do you feel about what he said?
I don't have the words to express my revulsion. A few years ago when he first did the whole "Apprentice" thing I enjoyed it because I was under the impression that the personality he put across was a scripted caricature.
As the show went on and I saw how he treated people of colour and women I lost respect for him very quickly. His comments about grabbing women's genitalia and being allowed to simply because of his "success" was repugnant. I didn't think it could get worse.
Then his disrespectful treatment of a Gold Star family, his bullying stupidity at the UN and G8 meetings he went to, his treatment and statements regarding John McCain after it was so apparent that his cowardice and daddy's money bought him a pass from service I again thought it couldn't get worse.
Colin Powell was a great leader. He had his flaws as all of us do, yet he always came across with dignity and showed true moral character.
Drumpf shows his moral character every time he speaks. The US is a poorer nation for his "leadership".
"True moral character", you say. So where ARE those weapons of mass destruction? I guess his "moral character" didn't prevent him from telling lies that resulted in the direct deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.
The Western forces - not just America remember - were fed bad intelligence about WMD in Iraq. The whole war was based on Iraqi revolutionaries wanting to get out from under Saddam Hussein's rule. Powell and the other allied commanders weren't the ones ultimately that made the call to fight. That decision was made by the presidents and prime ministers of the allied nations based on bad Intelligence.
That story just isn't true though. "Bad intelligence" won't cover it, because they were actually given GOOD intelligence by the U. N. weapons inspectors who were sent into Iraq and who tried to tell everyone that Saddam Hussein didn't have WMD's. They were unceremoniously withdrawn (not "kicked out") of Iraq because there was a Neo-Con agenda to invade and remove the Iraqi leader and his B'aath Party ministers. The West wanted a new, puppet regime in Baghdad, and lying was something they were willing to do in order to achieve that.
That still wasn't Powell's call. The decision to take military action was made by the political leaders at the time in their capacity as "leaders" of their respective nations. And remember, it wasn't the allied forces that executed Saddam. It was Iraqis.
The Kurds in Iraq are still as oppressed by the new regime as they were under Saddam. Nobody has done anything to seriously help them.
Colon Powell was a difficult man to pin down. He was no doubt extremely smart and an extremely talented statesman. He has made many, many grave mistakes in his life though that has cost the lives of many people. Unlike most people, I still remember the real Iraq and Saddam Hussein. Iraq War 2 may have been a debacle in the way it was reasoned out. It was fought on a false premise and with an aimless objective. Proving once again illustrating that war is not a tool that can be used for good. However, if anybody thinks that war with Iraq would not have happened otherwise, they are massively mistaken. I don't care to get into all the details, but Hussein violated every condition of the peace treaty from the first war, was a massive antagonist and a massively destabilizing force in the region. War was coming to Iraq sooner or later. But certainly, the bureaucrats could not have done a worse job initiating and conducting the war. War is not a decision to be made lightly and when you do finally decide to go to war, there is always one objective, destroy your enemy fully to the point they can never make war on you again. Anything short of that is a waste of time, lives and money.
I don't like or dislike Colon Powell. May he rest in peace with the Father in heaven.
I'm really still amazed people are still listening or reading anything this guys has to say, let alone talking about him. He was relevant when in office because his moronic actions and words impacted this country. But frfr he's just trying to cling on to any chance of relevance by saying stupid shit in hopes of pissing people off so they talk about him
Why are u amazed, though? Half of our population is comprised of stupid people. The Republicans want Trump to run again in 2024. Sadly, Trump's assholishness is STILL relevant. :(
This may sound callous, but I'm not going to mourn the death of a murderous, war-loving neo-con who lied to the U. N. about "weapons of mass destruction" that directly led to a pointless war that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and the rise of ISIS. May that son-of-a-bitch roast in the lowest depths of hell.
SCB, how many times am I going to have to tell you this? I'm not - N-O-T - a Donald Trump fan. I'm not even American. I don't like Biden either. BOTH parties are bloody awful!
Well I seem to recall a post about Australia and how you think it's going bad because your government wants people to get vaccinated and wear masks, etc. and then some dude on here recommended you get some guns to take care of the issue. Your ears perked right up.
You are one of those "screw society, I have freedom to spread diseases" people. Am I right?
No, my ears would not have "perked up" at the suggestion we arm ourselves. I don't own a gun, never have and never will. I don't like guns, and believe they should be regulated to such an extent that no one would even want them. You must have me confused with someone else who responded to that 'MyTake'.
"Colin Powell and others based their conclusions on lies that were told to the US government by an Iraqi informant." My own update. Are you seriously trying to say here that the decision to go to war, to invade another nation, was entirely based upon the advice of a single, unnamed Iraqi "informant"? That wasn't the case at all, and if it had been then that would be cause for concern about the decision-making process in the U. S. and British governments, the two nations that were pushing and propagandising the hardest for going to war. The alleged WMD's were not there, and everyone knew that, because the U. N. weapons inspectors confirmed that fact, but it didn't matter to the neo-cons, because those blood-thirsty psychopaths had an agenda, which was the removal of the B'aath Party from power in Iraq and the installation of a puppet regime.
WATCH AND READ: Colin Powell criticizes Trump's response to protests in 'State of the Union' interview Updated 12:30 PM ET, Sun June 7, 2020 www.cnn.com/.../index.html
I understand that some are easily duped because they don't understand the basics of society, so these people need help being taught about that. Thus, I am here to help...
Yes, CNN but it could have been Fox or anyone else. So, how do I know it's not "fake news"? Because there's a video and a transcript. Furthermore, if they were not true, the Colin Powell would have sued CNN for libel, slander, and defamation. But he didn't because it's true. Furthermore, if it wasn't true, Trump would have sued both Powell and CNN for slander, libel, and defamation.
Yet, Powell and Trump didn't initiate any lawsuits over this article which is a year old. Why didn't they sue? Because it's true so they'd have no legal basis to win a lawsuit.
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"CNN? Really?" -@Rachelspiks And this is how I know you are Trump's kindred spirit. :)
CNN is a news source. If they fuck something up, they have to correct it or they get sued. FOX is an opinion source. They can tell you lies all day long and say "only stupid people take us seriously." And they have 100% used that defense in court.
Oh right, because I don't like CNN I just have to be a Trump supporter. That's hilarious. Do you know what the real reason is? I don't like the mainstream media because THEY TELL LIES. It's that simple really. How do I know they tell lies? Well, here's a classic example: "Let's Go Brandon". Look it up. The crowd was clearly saying, "F*** Joe Biden", but the ditzy interviewer gushed, "Oh, listen to that! They're saying 'Let's Go Brandon'". In other words, in the age of the internet, it is extremely easy to check whether or not something that is being said is actually the case. The big channels like the ABC and CNN consistently fail to remember that, thinking we are all stuck in the 1970's or something, when people had a choice of only 4 TV channels and that was it.
@Rachelspiks I won't say you are a Trump supporter or not.
However, your dismissal of CNN and other news media indicates some misunderstanding regarding news media.
One should be careful of course when assessing the information they get from any source. And, as far as I am concerned, CNN does have liberal media bias. But bias in news media reporting doesn't make their reporting false. Indeed, news media have to be careful because there ARE lawsuits related to libel, slander, defamation, etc. Happens all the time.
In this particular case, it just happened to be CNN doing the Powell interview, but it doesn't matter. There's a video recording of the interview and a transcript. If anything was false or doctored, there'd have been a lawsuit. There hasn't been and that interview is over a year old.
Anyway, yes, one should check the quality of the source of their information. So, you may wish to check on various media bias checking sites. I have found that this one is very good and detailed: Media Bias / Fact Check aka "MBFC" https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ Not only does the site do good analysis, but it also explains the nature of biases.
So, let's take a look at CNN according to MBFC: ... (more)
LEFT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward liberal causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage liberal causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Left Bias sources.
Overall, we rate CNN left biased based on editorial positions that consistently favor the left, while straight news reporting falls left-center through bias by omission. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks by TV hosts. However, news reporting on the website tends to be properly sourced with minimal failed fact checks
Detailed Report CNN Bias Rating: LEFT Factual Reporting: MIXED Country: USA (45/180 Press Freedom) Media Type: TV Station Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic MBFC Credibility Rating: MEDIUM CREDIBILITY
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So, yup, CNN has left bias but, again, that doesn't mean their reporting is fake - and certainly not in the case of a videotaped and broadcast interview.
"However, your dismissal of CNN and other news media indicates some misunderstanding regarding news media." - abc3643 No it doesn't. It happens all the time. I'll be watching a story about something I understand quite well or have extensive knowledge about, and the reporter, or the one sitting behind the desk will say something that I just know can't be real or true. Alternatively, they will make a comment that is designed to skew perceptions.
"CNN is a news source. If they fuck something up, they have to correct it or they get sued. FOX is an opinion source." - SCB CNN is a propaganda disseminator with a clear bias. One well known and notorious example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klVhCkhOTRQ Those buildings behind him are mostly burning peacefully :D
@Rachelspiks I said my piece, young lady. You are intelligent, but your passions cloud your thought processes. Please exercise some discipline in this area. Do not bother replying; I am muting.
THIS: "I'll be watching a story about something I understand quite well or have extensive knowledge about, and the reporter, or the one sitting behind the desk will say something that I just know can't be real or true. Alternatively, they will make a comment that is designed to skew perceptions. "
Yes, I agree. This is something that we as viewers/readers must be vigilant for. I am glad you noticed this.
Trump didn't need to be as crass in his comments, but... what he said about Powell is true.
When Obama was elected, Powell turned his back on Republicans and fell in with all the liberal ideas Obama pushed. Effectively, for the Republican party, Powell was a turncoat. He was, as Trump correctly pointed out a RINO (Republican In Name Only).
@EnglishEuropean - Powell never really espoused Republican values. That was evident when he decided to open his mouth concerning Obama and his policies. When he became Secy of State, his political views were on full display. He definitely followed Democrats.
@EnglishEuropean - In general, it still is. There are party platforms that are still adhered to. Powell simply claimed to be a Republican while promoting Democrat ideals. When he did that (hitching his political ideas to Obama's stupidity), most conservatives and Republicans knew he wasn't fighting for Republican values. That's how he got the RINO moniker. It fit him as well as other current and former Republicans.
Because he did that, Republicans for the most part, ignored any future political aspirations Powell had, specifically running under the Republican banner. Wasn't ever gonna happen!
@supercutebutt - Trump is all you keep blithering on about - 99% of the time with lies. Why don't you quit listening to the mainstream media and start getting the REAL FACTS? I know its difficult for socialists like you to actually do your own thinking, but try.
Trump has no class, no tact, no decorum, so he is acting out just as expected! Trump is also the Paulie Gualtieri of the political world, everything has to be about him and his fragile ego. Just read this excellent article in The Atlantic magazine about Trump‘s behavior towards fallen soldiers or the military in general: https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/615997/ I really „like“ the part with Trump and John F. Kelly standing at the grave of Kelly‘s son and Trump‘s complete obliviousness. But as his minions would probably pout, „it‘s all fakey noose“!
The "insurrection" was the result of anger towards the Government about their handling of the BLM issue. If right wing terrorists seized the capitol hill zone they would have been crushed not aloud to linger for weeks. It is BLM who has barbarically destroyed Americas commercial neighborhoods. The Capitol riot attacked not civilians only a cruel government. As for Colin Powell well Trump should not be speaking ill of the dead no.
Trump was Prez during the "BLM issue," my racist friend. Then he and others falsely blamed Antifa and BLM for the Capitol riot. Truly pathetic. You should feel deep shame for your ridiculous comment and for your allegiance to a narcissistic sociopath. You are in a cult. :( www.usatoday.com/.../
I have no allegiance to Trump, I don't personally like that man, but lady have you ever been to a Liberal Arts college (pardon me the question mark button does not work on my computer). Do you have any idea the kind of things Franz Fanon and Mao Zedong who are idealized by BLM leaders said and did. BLM is a savage terrorist movement all its members should be in cuffs.
"BLM is a savage terrorist movement" But QAnon and the ProudBoys are awesome peaceful protestors whose only crimes were smashing apart my Capitol, threatening to murder lawmakers, and injuring and killing cops over the lies Trump told them that he won an election he lost in a landslide.
Get it together, friend. You have lost all perspective.
What do ya think? The disgraced, twice-impeached Prez. Pussy-Grabber is not eloquent with words, & can be trusted only to say the most vile, inappropriate things about people. He's an ill-behaved moron blow-hard & everything he says is CRINGE-WORTHY..
@f_ckjoebiden yeah duh... I'm probably opening Pandora's box by asking, but what do you have against Joe? -- with a screen name like that, we know who you voted for as well
He has made the great cornholio presidential call for TP a reality, I might be starting to come around. youtu. be/axRhyayii4o? t=24 His butt's been wiped!
Powell was a great guy and I wished he ran for President but he said he wouldn’t put his family through that. He did indeed make the case for war based on Weapons of Mass Destruction. But that was due to ridiculously bad intel from the CIA from an African scam for money if I remember right.
Powell wasn’t a Republican to the core but I am fine with that. We can all have different opinions and Powell was certainly an American who had the county’s best interests in mind.
Trump has his imperfections but I think he was thinking about how he would be treated in death. I don’t expect him to be treated well by the media. I do think he sacrificed for this country and had a much better four years than the Left will ever admit.
I just like everything that Trump stands for but I had to accept him as a president the man had an opportunity of a lifetime to become the greatest president ever and he totally fucked it up if you would have been on his own show The Apprentice he would have been fired
I'm really surprised that he hasn't gone on national TV talk shows seeing how corrupt her how all other politicians are dirty at least the cleanest I don't know if it was the Bible or if it is Nostradamus but in there someplace I remember hearing say something about the four horsemen and the trumpets will sound I would like to find that again just to see what it said because the trumpets have sounded and I don't know if that's the start of Destruction or what he had his chance to prove himself and he blew it 100% after all these years of his mouth running about the parties Democrat or Republican and he has been both of them he has an opportunity of a lifetime to become the greatest president ever and he blew it
If the news isn't about him, how great he his, how big his dick his, how his crowd size is and how he won 2020 he dont care. Its all about him..
And those who will attack me as if I attack their family members because these assholes consider the Orange Turd basket family in 3. 2.. 1.. and go you Trumplet ThinSkinned menstural pads...
There's a time and a place to express his views on the political aspect. Not his hest move. I don't know the political aspect but I wouldn't have shared my views about that so soon after his death. If anything it's not so much the person - if thst can be helped - but the behavior that could have been criticized.
That was very cruel. Jeez, what an ass. That is NOT how someone offers their condolences! This only reflects badly on his character. He has no manners 🙄
It's the fake news media that is politicizing his death. Once it's politicized it's entirely fair game for others to comment freely too. Everything Trump said was true. The Media hated Powel not long ago and the moment he died the media decided to use Powel's death and past comments to attack Trump.
Why do Democrats like you care so goddamn much about what Trump says? Get over him already no one cares anymore. Powell served his country I salute him for it but he was a shitty politician. His legacy will always be remembered for selling a BS lie and he’s just as complacent like the other congressman who voted for the Iraq war.
Colin Powell and others based their conclusions on lies that were told to the US government by an Iraqi informant. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant) Donald Trump told lies about COVID-19. He called the pandemic a "hoax." He also spent months lying that he won the 2020 Presidential Election. This caused the insurrection on January 6th.
You’re telling me the Iraq war was the result of what some dumb fucking Iraqi said? Stop coming up with excuses for scumbags like Powell just because he didn’t like Trump. The pandemic was overblown that’s a fact, can’t argue with CDC statistics. He was right about the lockdowns causing more damage than the virus. We’re still suffering with the current supply shortage because of it. The Capital break in wasn’t that bad and if the local police did their job they would have never got in.
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At least he is not a fawning simpleton like most of the politicians. However, I do not think he should have said that. My mother used to say that if you have nothing good to say about somebody you should say nothing at all.
It’s to be expected from trump he has no respect for anything or anybody. I mean all the crap he’s done and said in the past you can’t expect anything else.
Well tbh why should we venerate warhawks? I didn't shed a tear for McCain either, or Saddam, and I won't mourn W or Obama either. They're a burden to society and the human race. The world is a better place without them.
I didn't see what Trump said. Don't care. I have my own experience with Powell and he was a cowardly political opportunist. Educated, experienced... but just as unprincipled in private as a majority of politicians.
