I do think in a lot of ways women and men are alike. I’ll see women complaining about something men do and it will remind me of some women I know that do the same stuff and I’ve seen the same thing from men but there’s definitely a lot of things that makes it clear and more than just the obvious that we’re definitely different and I agree that so many are extreme if you have a different point of view but I would say different people will have different reasons for reacting the way they do maybe small man complex or are tired of being dismissed or a just passionate about things
It's usually based on the idea that we socially separate them and that's why the ones who act different act different. Means like typically if there's ever need for strength or aggression we look to make figures and if there's more of a nurturing kind heart we typically have that in women. But is it because of a narrative set to us all our lives or because it's "natural". TV, movies, games, magazines have all set a standard for women and men more or less through the past few decades. The most growing and changing generations thus far. And none of that even touches what all the households were teaching their kids growing up. Men were warriors who couldn't be seen crying or looking weak in any case without a whoopin. Tough strong, hero of women. Think we get it... I can't say I don't see more and more men act more womanly by those standards and women act more like men. And by all of that I say it is possible our personality traits have been controlled by majority for a long ass time. Possibility we are much more the same than opposites is accurate enough to me.
Well we are more alike than different. We are both humans, speak and use language, eat and drink the same foods and liquids, we want social contact with our fellow species, enjoy music, learning, entertainment, we each want companionship, love, sex... etc.
We have the same overall biology in that we have skeletons, over 90% of the same organs, fat, the same skin, the same eyes, nose, mouths... etc.
Once all of those similarities are established then of course there are tons of minutia differences, size differences, strength differences, genital and sexuality differences, broad shouldered, narrow waist male, hour glass figure female with breasts, our brains are hardwired differently, one is more problem solving oriented, working with things and building... the other sex is usually more empathetic, nurturing, likes to work with people and not with things.
I have never met a single person my whole life who believed that women and men are exactly alike. Are you telling me there's people who say that women and men have the same sexual organs and the same physiology? Or is this exclusively about psychology? No sure I ever met someone who thought women and men are psychologically EXACTLY alike. But how different we really are, that's of course up for debate. Especially what the causes are in terms of nature vs. nurture. Of course most traits are usually products of a mix of nature AND nurture, the question is rather how much bigger the influence of one over the other is in a given trait.
Because for generations now we've been taught the theory of evolution in school and have been forced to adopt a scientific worldview and surrender the utmost authority to scientists or so-called experts therefore when they say something is true there's no proper discourse to refute it because they shut down the other side and say they're being bigoted or racist or closed-minded so you've got a bunch of scientific agendas running off with this lgbtq stuff and no one can question it so the younger generations assume that that's the new normal or just how things are because scientists couldn't lie.
Even the people who say they believe this usually don't, and, in my experience, a LOT of the people who say this are manic with extreme ideals. To that end:
That brand of person is easy to manipulate. They choose an ideology they perceived as existentially threatened to feel like a hero. Above but to feel like an underdog. They feel ashamed of their inherent limitations and compensate with cultist behavior. They honestly believe they are not allowed to live how they want. They have responsibilities they can't/won't account for so blame society. It's a phase.
Men and woman are quite different physically. In that respect, they are so very NOT the same. It's that difference that contributes to different life experiences and different emotional qualities. But mentally, men and women are nearly the same, with some possible very subtle differences. Women are equally smart and capable of doing anything that men can do intellectually.
Does anyone really? Or does it take years of programming and lying to themselves to believe such a thing? You dont need to do anything more than put a group of men and women together in the wilderness to find out how different they are. In controlled environments more women will succeed, in chaotic environments more men will succeed. Maybe that's why men bring security and the woman brings chaos. XD
i have never met anyone who actually thinks that or ever seen it written anywhere either... are you sure you aren't confusing a call for equality as an indication people think we are all the same because the call for equality isn't about that. its about us embracing our differences
Equality between the sexes is one of the mantras of modern feminism. However, there is no evidence that this is the case. The biology of man and woman orient the brain to function in a completely different way. Making different choices and having completely different risk appetites. Both the hormones and the physical structure are completely different and have different results both in behavior and in other areas, such as the perception of pain, the evaluation of beauty, the processing of space. Some are annoyed when it is shown that this is not the case since this theory is a secular religion, and this is its basic assumption.
I suspect it has to do with a combination of the absolute rejection of nature in favor of nurture, and the foolish desire for the will to be totally dominate over the physical agent. By that I mean ignoring physical or neurological characteristics, such as women tend to be more of the caregiver type and liking those kinds of careers and have, you know, uterus's.
I noticed this only gets used when the context benefits people who argue such foolishness. Then suddenly men and women are different when it’s convenient.
For example did you see any men #metooing women during all that ridiculous a few years ago? Of course they didn’t and the very rare incidents that did happen were laughed or even defended by other feminists.
Because if they weren't, then that would make the idea of equality completely useless.
Men or Women aren't alike, but that's because everyone is different. Gender doesn't affect shit. It's YOU who makes your decisions and blaming it on someone else or your own gender just goes to show that you can't handle your mistakes or consequences.
So no, Men and Women aren't the same, but their gender doesn't affect why they aren't. It's because nobody was the same in the first place.
Fundamentally, IF YOU GO TO THE root BASELINE, BOTH genders NEED food, oxygen, physical & psychological 'safety' & shelter... DO WE BOTH NOT? beyond those, THEN EVERY OTHER THING... IS SOMEHOW AFFECTED (note the spelling) by the benefits and drawbacks that One's 'gender' and cultural roles, imposes~
Because they're both human? And fundamentally the certain differences that exist due to gender (in opinion) should be minute or at least very low given both genders are fully rational. Two parties regardless of even species might come to acquire similar beliefs if they are (perfectly) rational.
there's no explanation for that. it is just objectively and factually wrong. and whoever believes that is true, is mentally retarded.
and the "triggered" reaction comes from the fact that "being triggered" and "entiteled to not be offended" is the common method that gains more and more traction in the public realm which i think is also pretty damn retarded... signs of a declining society.
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I think many are misunderstood, and what most mean is that sex and biology does not have as much a say as others believe. But some people are just radical in their believes, maybe they like to simplify things so they feel they understand the world better or something.
Men and women are physiology are almost identical in physical and mental biology, but there's obviously a direct distinction between a man and woman that we can see with eyes that only a fool will refuse to acknowledge.
Probably the same people who think that a guy who chops his junk off, takes some hormonal therapy and wears dresses is now a woman, as if appearances and personal feelings overrule basic biology.
Tbh I think women are above guys. They have more potential, have jedi like brain funcionalitys like multitasking, are just more productive, stronger immu system and women give life and much more. Guys kinda do easily astray and can't focus as good as girls can. Many studies prove it. Who run the world? Girls!
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For some, we were told it as kids. We were told of a world that valued equality, and they neglected to tell us a lot of other things. For others, it's part of a philosophy which attempts to manifest sameness is all aspects of life -- believing that it would somehow make the world better.
No two men are the same either. There's a broad spectrum of ability across both sexes. What people object to is being told they can or cannot do something purely on thea basis of sex.
I don't think I can help here, I don't think we are exactly alike. I think we have evolved to compliment each other. But I also don't want to be told that I can't do something just because I'm a girl.
I think those type of responses are horse shit cause just look at all the times even just on here where women and men have gender wars and trade barbs toward each other. And mostly over the stupidest shit too.
they come from a ridiculous socialist ideology that believes equality must overcome all else. they think all inequality MUST be someone's fault rather than natural differences between men and women.
@ElizaPam Well, other men can feel that way as well. But they might just become asexual. Or gay (bottom). What made you want to be a woman specifically?
Such people hope to equalise their perceived inequality between the sexes by declaring that men and women are interchangeable. Presumably such people do not believe there is a pay gap...
well we both want to be loved and we are humans with desires and we just are people who want to be happy and to make others happy. deep down we are all the same in many ways.
It's more like the difference is social. For example spinster is the female version of bachelor. We just us bachelorette because spinster has a negative connotation.
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Because while they're not exactly alike. They all tend to be working from the same script.
Or more accurately speaking, people are individuaks, and biological sex has no bearing on things like intelligence, comprehension skills, memory, perspective, interests, hobbies, ideals, morals, tastes, etc.
Women’s brain is multitasking and men’s brain is specialized but it doesn’t mean that they can switch their roles. They are more or less same. Especially for desire and greedy they will all go same direction
It’s mostly the radical far left that believes that. They believe differentiating a man from a woman in any way is hindering the “progress” of society.
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