Why do people care so much whether others vaccinated or not?

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For me, I just don’t care. If you’re vaccinated cool, if not then cool too.

If you’re someone who runs an your own establishment and you REALLY want everyone inside to be vaccinated and/or wear a mask, then I understand why you would care.

But I’m talking about everyday folk or citizens.

They may say they care because those who aren’t vaccinated are endangering everyone else’s lives but I think this is false moralizing.

These people don’t really care about others’ lives like that.

It’s more about control/being different

It’s like, “why do you have to be different?”

Or “why can’t you just follow everyone else?”

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You’d be surprised how mad and HOSTILE people can become TOWARDS ANOTHER for being DIFFERENT

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@MrOracle

Great answer

@OlderAndWiser too

MrOracle · Accepted Answer

Per the data coming from the CDC, the UK, and Sweden, the vaccines gives you a 3 month period where you have a roughly 1/3 reduction (7 days to just under 5 days) of being contagious if you catch COVID and reduces the average length of infection also by roughly 1/3, compared to not being vaccinated. That's really what you're getting for all of this insanity. AND... those who have already had COVID or were exposed but fought it off will have the same antibodies in their systems naturally and are just as protected.

The vaccine doesn't stop you from getting COVID, doesn't stop COVID from mutating, doesn't stop you from spreading it, etc. It simply makes it easier to manage for about a 3 month period. This is why some countries are now talking about a FOURTH booster. Essentially, they've put your immune system on a subscription system, and thus want you to be under indefinite restrictions - forever!

in my opinion, if you believe that's a good idea - to allow yourself to be subject to ever more restrictive limitations, mandatory medical treatments, and having to show your medical papers every time you go anywhere or do anything, then in my opinion you're embracing a kind of slavery, and not just for yourselves, but for everyone. Oh, and NY wants those vaccine passports to now cover a mandatory flu shot and measles shot. Hopefully New Yorkers accept this further infringement of their rights, so that the government there can continue expanding what information you're required to show your barista or your WalMart greeter. Can you imagine mandatory STD tests and walking around with your results that you have to show to everyone? That's not far from stars and triangles on your sleeves. And don't think that the Left isn't anxious to expand and aren't already coming up with reasons why these things are "must-haves for the public safety."
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan
COVID is never going away, and COVID almost certainly WAS created in Wuhan with funding provided by Fauci - who lied to Congress when asked directly about this, only to have the NIH provide documentation otherwise - because Fauci has been obsessed with gain-of-function virus research for decades, and since he couldn't legally do it in the US, he funded it in China with US taxpayer money.

Do you really want to live literally the rest of your lives wearing a mask every day, "social distancing", and being subject not only to quarterly injections of whatever the government deems necessary, but also to vaccine passports and who knows what else they'll think of to control your life further? Are you that much of a slave?

I'm not telling you not to get vaccinated. That decision should be between you and your doctor and NO ONE ELSE. If you contract COVID, your treatment should be between you and your doctor and NO ONE ELSE. I'd understand screening if you're traveling abroad or, say, getting on a cruise ship where you'll be in tight quarters with thousands of strangers for weeks, but the Left has people driving around wearing a mask IN THEIR OWN CARS, ALONE! Or when out for a walk or jog or bike ride, alone! It's insane.

COVID is hear to stay. The vaccine won't prevent you from getting it. And being locked up and masked will only weaken your immune system, which is "exercised" by coming in contact with pathogens and fighting them off every day. Of course, no one cares if you die from that - only COVID deaths matter...

Joshua_L_Blackmon · Accepted Answer

its not a matter of being vaccinated, and both the vaccinated and unvaccinated know this. If you want to debate, or attack or yell or blame.. here I am , you can throw your stones. the vaccine for covid 19 introduced in the united states is not a mere vaccine, infact the definition was changed so that it would fit the description. There are traditional vaccines which are not offered here in the U. S. this is not a lie. Every alternative or prospective alternative that is sought or found out gets put under the glass.. just so this shot is perceived as acceptable . IF there were objective (and there are) alternatives , people would choose the one with the best outcome, least risks. The current shot has more risks.. and its death count is higher than all the rest through out history. Why is it important to me.. well i don't shrug and say hey it doesn't matter. You wear that uniform but you have dishonored your oath.. I kept my oath.. I quit jobs because of a mask mandate and got better ones to boot. I believe in Protecting myself and my fellow Americans. You could argue XYZ, but ultimately the tradition of this country IS LIBERTY. not life. I am not saying that covid hasn't killed people, but to offer a device that also has a death rate.. is not a solution.. is the option to pull the trigger on your own head, or shoot someone with a pistol far away.. if we ant to get in the most esoteric extremes.. all information says this shot doesn't prevent illness or spread , and more so.. not only would someone charge me with befriending someone who is vaccinated.. which I am happy to do, but also suggest.. i cannot pick the people who I date.. based on who took the shot.. what could they give me in exchange for their perceived recovery. It might be too much and even a lie to say this, but I once read an article that some people who took this shot got an HIV false positive. false positive.. thats enough for me.. you could Have Hiv.. I don't hate you. i dont even think you are unattractive.. and babies.. countless miscarriages and babies have died.. from these shots.. From their HUSBANDS getting the shots.. if a husband can miscarry his wifes baby by getting this shot.. then I don't to sleep in the same room with someone who has gotten this shot.. until its been the assigned time that the studies and trials are done which is 2026. that was the official date.. thatt is the date,, where we know all the risks.. then i might feel better about the other person.. and one of you women.. might go lets say its 95% of you.. go.. well your chances are slim bud.. GOOD FOR YOU.. thank GOD you aren't my fucking option , because I don't want Hiv.

BlackBeauty90 · Accepted Answer

I remember a colleague telling me that they didn't want to get the shot because a friend who was triple vaccinated got sick. I turned to them and asked well how & why did this person get triple vaccinated when triple vaccinations weren't approved and for all we know by taking the vaccine improperly they damaged their immunity. The colleague didn't have an answer worth much of anything.

And that is the typical aspects of people who don't get vaccinated. They're ignorant. Uneducated. Usually on the outskirts of social norms anyway, aka social rejects. I've heard everything from the shot gives you AIDS to it giving women extra periods and that anyone unvaccinated who hugs that woman will also get extra periods. Like use thy teeny brains.

Now don't get me wrong. If you don't want to vaccinate go ahead. Just stay out of my business and away from my relatives. If you cause an outbreak in my business or one of my relatives to become sick... You'll get sued for every penny. And people who are unvaccinated but claiming they are, etc are getting sued for one. In Canada a member of a sports team who fabricated his vaccine card is being sued.

Apulu_3 · Accepted Answer

All want that people will be like them. Not only in matter of vaccination but everywhere. In the end people just impress these I-want-to-be-your-rolemodel-with-forcing-you people. But the life is yours not theirs so you should think that you want the vaccine or not. It depends on the person if he/she thinks vaccination is harmful or helpful. People don't have work but to put nose in other's business so they "care" (note the sarcasm) about them but it is all time pass. In end they don't care if you had the vaccination or not.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

Everybody hates the black sheep!

Dragonpurple · Answer

I often wonder this myself, considering no one cared about forcing other vaccines on people. When is the last time you heard someone say, they have to take the flu vaccine or wear a mask?

pre-covid saw lots of sick people in public, runny noses, coughing, red and flushed and no one gave a damn. Even employees at restaurants or other jobs.

I hated that at my work sick people would come to work, rather than stay home for a week to get better. Instead they wanted to share whatever plague they had with everyone else and no one cared.

I personally hope mask requirements stay around after covid for food workers, and I hope restaurants still continue to do enhanced cleaning/sanitation. Wish they had done in the first place.

Besides if someone is fearful that someone without the vaccine might hurt them, can't I be fearful that someone who might just have the flu could hurt me and force them to stay home too?

What is stupid is vaccinated people can still spread and help mutate the virus, the best thing they got going is the symptoms are less and they recover faster if they even have issues.

I think people just like to control others.

Ad_Quid_Orator · Answer

First of all there's herd immunity, where a large enough percentage of the population is immune that the virus can't spread to members of the population that are susceptible to it. Second, it's not that the vaccine "either works or it doesn't", it decreases the probability of contracting the virus. So say the vaccination is 80% effective at preventing someone from contracting the virus, if only you are vaccinated you have a 20% chance of contracting the disease if there's an outbreak. And while many have speculated about potential long term impacts of the vaccine, even 2 years out from the outbreak of the pandemic many long term affects of COVID have been documented.

Second, a fight against pathogens are an arms race versus a timed dash to a finish line. They mutate into new variants and if more people get infected because fewer people have been vaccinated, you're giving the virus new chances to mutate into new variants that vaccination is even less effective against.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-95565-8

crazy8000 · Answer

It's pretty amusing how much some think they know still are so wrong and call them names, doesn't listen to learn, just listen to spead fearmongering made up thing's. can't discuss, only comes with something different or something that counterdict them, when they get confronted about it they say they didn't. even change little in what the other one say to pull a ridiculous to get right in something they have no understanding about.

Fear makes people delusional due to their feelings twist anything that doesn't correlate to their feelings. It always sounds accurate what they come with in their own mind. the stronger the fear is the more severe it becomes.
Stereotypical behavior. most of them aren't aware of it since it is a sort of psychose state.

To have that mentioned I'm gonna mention that vaccine doesn't make you immune from being a carrier that infects others.
Anyone that wants to argue about that in the comments do I say you have to take that with a specialist in that field IRL. just gonna give you a head's up. you not gonna like the answer you get if you pay attention.

ChrisMaster69 · Answer

You are planning to go for Officer course?

So you will basically have this attitude towards your command and say ‘ hey, I don’t worry if you are vaccinated for Hep, meningococcal meningitis, etc’.

You won’t mind if you are taking a detachment to do disaster relief in to a high risk area for malaria or Covid etc, where your personal run the risk of being hospitalised if not vaccinated?

Is this what you will say during say selection interviews ‘For me, I just don’t care. If you’re vaccinated cool, if not then cool too’.

DJB72 · Answer

I work in healthcare. We have immunocompromised clients that contracting Covid would probably kill.

I'm vulnerable to Covid. Contracting it last year nearly killed me and ended up costing me six months of my life and my right leg.

In my business you wear a mask - properly so it covers nose and mouth - or you leave. You sanitise your hands or I'm not opening the security gate to let you in.

This is non-negotiable.

Staff, including myself, are vaccinated and will have boosters as needed to keep immunity.

NamerOfStars · Answer

Fear has conquered their hearts. They have allowed Covid to become, for them, a great terrifying bogeyman, FAR out of proportion with the actual danger it poses. Consequently, taking an experimental medical treatment that stands to kill more people than it saves is, to their perspective, not reckless or even foolish- it's warding off a monster.

We saw the same thing with people supporting the Patriot Act and promoting the war with Iraq. In ten years, you'll be hearing "Oh, I was always against that rushed 'vaccine'!" from the exact same people who're insisting that you get it right now.

Shamiah02 · Answer

I understand your thoughts, but also we have to look at the potential problems antivaxx create for both unvaxx and vaxxed.
When unvaxxed you can carry the disease and allow it to mutate into a new deadlier version that could make the vaccine worthless
I usually stay out these convos, but tbh, not getting vaccinated can cause problems for everyone.
Just like trying to get a doctors appointment at one point was hard, going to the hospital for an emergency was like a marathon because of all the unvaxxed has overwhelming the medical field making what is already an unpleasant visit 10x worst.
I mean they wanna refuse the vaccine why they going to the doctor and hospital asking them to save them after refusing to do what the doctors said would prevent it.

And sadly i turned my replies off because the antivaxx are just as hostile towards us abd i don't want to be overwhelmed with hostile comments from them again

genericname85 · Answer

because the media has put in a lot of work, making people believe that the unvaccinated are somehow to be blamed for the lockdowns and draconian government measures.

i guess it's easier to be hostile to people around you than to fight the people who are actually responsible for your situation, which is the government.

the last time i've seen a government spread so much missinformation was when hitler made it a "science fact" that jews are inferior and to be blamed for the misery that the german people were in at the time...

LZPanzer · Answer

You claim it co. es from people wanting to control others. I thing it's more basic and primal.

Imagine your self as a caveman in a small tribe if people start dying of un known causes those that get si k are kept at a distance. We see this in other social species generally when a member of isolated group tries to engage with the healthy group the individual is often met with hostility as the healthy ones don't know if the individual could infect and doom the tribe

It's an evolved behavioral response to disease that is encoded into our very DNA. sacrifice the few so the tribe may live.

In the case of covid the cause of death is known and choosing to be vaccinated means you are a possible carrier of death itself.

Oigit · Answer

I don't care if people are vaccinated or not. I do care about people crying about their choice to not getting vaccinated causing issues in their life. Because we are free to make our on choices and never free of the continuances of the choices we make. It's like driving drunk, getting wreck and complaining about the fact you are in the hospital. If you didn't choose to drive drink you wouldn't be the hospital in the first place. Same thing goes for some one losing their job because they choose to not get vaccinated.

Bobsyoruncle · Answer

The vast majority of the *Karens* and the *Kens* out there who are mindlessly obsessed with the so-called ‘vaccination’ status of those around them are simply following the herd.

And the herd is led by a relatively small cadre of self-serving partisans who, like Jim Jones of Jonestown fame, may or may not actually believe the drivel they spew.

Thick books could be written about the utter lunacy that’s been loosed on mankind in these dark days.

And they WIILL be written, at some point. Men and women ALWAYS sober up after the madness du jour spends itself. They pick themselves up from the rubble they’ve created, dust themselves off and move back toward the light of authentic reason.

They did after the Salem Witch Trials, and they will again when the last possible combination of letters and numbers have been used to describe the final imaginary ‘variant’ of the nasty little head cold with the 99+% survival rate that they call ‘covid’.

CaliGirlBH · Answer

Being vaccinated is something we all have had to do growing up, if you didn't you won't be allowed to go to school.
People get flu shots every year so what's the problem with Covid vaccine?
I'll tell you People have been fed fake info about the vaccine, there are countries that sit around make American accounts and post all sorts of false info about what it does to people.
They make videos of people acting like they have uncontrolled shaking they can't walk all kinds of things just to get more people to be scared to get vaccinated hoping it will kill more people.
If you have elderly people in your family think about their well being as well as your own because if you get covid your going to wish you got the vaccine.

HighValue · Answer

Vaccines are so effective that there has been a vaccine for the flu since the late 1930s so of course there is no more flu right? lol

It is like someone saying that locking the door to MY house will somehow prevent thieves from breaking into THEIR house.

It is illogical nonsense. they even want people that recovered that are proven to have MORE effective antibodies to still be forced to get vaccinated.

Plus they ignore that it is experimental and needs to be around for 20 to 30 years to know the long term side effects.

The same hypocrites that want to force others to get vaccinated are just fine with people drinking alcohol that leads to many people getting injured and killed each year, along with child abuse and rapes too. They are somehow fine with that.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

1. Covid vaccines aren't effective at stopping you from catching any version of covid, so they aren't real vaccines, and no new version can be effective until we get accurate testing, because the test for whether or not you have covid gives false positives/false negatives most of the time.

2. Even if an effective one gets made, coronaviruses mutate too fast for it to matter.

3. Even if you ignore facts 1 and 2, any effective vaccine that you take would make you immune, so people who didn't take the vaccine aren't actually putting you or any other vaccinated person at risk. The only people who might be at higher risk of infection are ones who can't take the vaccine (because herd immunity), but because of facts 1 and 2, that doesn't matter.

LauraFall89 · Answer

This is not a liberal-conservative or NFL team discussion. We are talking facts here. Vaccines are the most effective tool right now to avoid both the spreading and the killing of the virus. Vaccines are not perfect but are much more effective in keeping everyone alive than anything else we got.

If you plan to live in society (major cities, etc...) not getting vaccinated increments the risk of killing others. If people you interact with call you for it, it's the least they can do.

Stoner710 · Answer

Because we’ve become stupid as a society and we don’t understand the idea personal choice anymore this is the idea of self government do you have the right to go in yourself which means you have the right to not get vaccinated. This is called freedom. If you want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship go to China

Crepe_tart · Answer

I care because the percentage of being infected can be higher. Some say "Why would you care, you'll probably survive". In the situation that I'm living in, yes I'll survive but I won't be able to work a 100% of effectiveness as I am doing now and I'll lose my job.

AviatorTom · Answer

The major COVID vaccine manufacturers are announcing revenues in the billions and profits in the hundreds of millions (US dollars, that is). Are we really sure that the vaccine is for our own good, while it's so good for those who invest in big pharma?

I'm in favor of taking precautions, as we all should with any disease. Mandate? No thanks!

CaliSixx · Answer

I don't know. So many people make a huge deal about it. My mostly republican family (besides my mom) have bullied me to death calling me stupid for getting it and saying they hope it kills me. It's literally an optional shot and if you don't get it it's not the absolute end of the world

Why do people care so much whether others vaccinated or not?

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