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+1 yIt used to be mostly conservative in the military. Having been out for a while I’m not sure how much things have changed. It’s clear many of the top brass have gone work or are at least willing to tow that line for their position weather or not they believe in they type of ideology.
The reasons, as I see them are as follows. Typically those joining the military are patriots or do it for patriotic reasons. It is crystal clear the leftists hate America so they’re not interested in that manner of thing. Many leftists tend to view the military and police as authoritarian fascists. They see men with guns willing to do violence, being rough n tough, largely being masculine and disciplined and they don’t like it. In their minds these people are Nazis, they just wear a different uniform. Leftists have an amazing lack of comprehension that evil (real evil) exists in the world. In regards to the military we know that you essentially need trained killers who are skilled in the arts of war, preferable those who may like war. These people scare the crap out of leftists. Martial artists, military, militias, police, spy’s. They seem to loathe these people, viewing them as violent men looking for do harm. The difference between most of these types and common thugs is they do in fact do harm and violence when called for, but it’s on principal rather than indiscriminate. Lefts seem to have trouble differentiating this. They’d rather live in a fantasy land where such men aren’t needed and seem to despise them because there is a role to do such duties and a place where these men are encouraged to be violent in the capacity of their duties.
Leftists by nature seem to be undisciplined and lazy. They seem to loathe structure, rules, regulations, and societal roles. They seem to have this mentality of “everyone just do what you want.” Yet another reason they’d hate the military. The military is ultra masculine by nature, leftists seem to be anything but. Many leftists don’t like sports like boxing, wrestling, football, hockey, lacrosse, MMA. Sports that involve pummeling the crap out of other people. It takes balls, it take courage and discipline and sacrifice and a willingness to endure hardship to play such sports, all things most leftists seem to shirk. Leftists seem to hate authority when it’s not their authority. They hate cops, but love the tyrant we have in the White House.
Most military types tend to be down to earth, practical, objective thinkers, rational. If they’re not the military will make them so. They tend to see the world as more black and white. Someone in the military may say: “I agreed with Trumps idea to stop Muslims from Immigrating to the U. S., we need to vet these people and ensure we’re not bringing in terrorists, not to mention the religion seeks the destruction of infidels and to establish a world wide caliphate, why let them in? They’re potentially dangerous.” The leftist will call such people a racist and they seem to think we have this whole brotherhood of man thing going on and we should never be suspicious of people from different religions or countries, and were all one big happy family.” They forget we’ve been fighting these people since about 1990, and there have been several attacks on US soil since and that ulterior motives may exist for immigration. Since we don’t know who is who, better to keep them all out until we do and know the likelihood of threat or harm is very low. Yet another place leftists seem to be out of touch with practical reality.
I think this is only beginning to explain this issue, but I’ll pause here.11 Reply- +1 y
Forgot to sum up my point which is the nature of the military tends to draw people as I describe in the military and those types happen to be conservative by nature and conservatism is largely cold hard fact and objective reality while leftism is often emotionally based reasoning.
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+1 yMost of the military is comprised of men. Nuff said
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1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think a lot of it has to do with conservatives being stronger advocates for a strong military, and doing more to provide better quality of life for the military and family members. Some of that seems to be changing though.
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u +1 yI don’t know that they’re afraid of them as much as they don’t want citizens like you and me to have them. But…. I’m in the National Guard (weekend warrior) and I work with a couple who don’t like guns and wonder why we have to qualify periodically. Um because we’re part of the ARMED forces maybe? Lol
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I am pro gun and I will always be , because Liberty means more to me than life itself.
+1 yThey can’t have any sissy ass libtards in the military. That’s for sure.
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u +1 yI believe that it is fear that makes many people lean to the left. People who are motivated by fear are less likely to volunteer for military service.
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+1 yWell, the military, is filled with tradition, which hasn’t changed for awhile.
Conservatives, “conservatism” is the act of conserving what is good and what works.
Not changing.
Lots of things in the military have been around since it’s inception.
Certain standards, customs and courtesies, etc
Beyond that, personalities of conservatives in the US seems to be of discipline, love of country, individual freedoms and rights, etc.
There’s roots tying all of this to early citizens who took up arms against tyrants who sought to control/enslave the population.
I’m talking about the American Revolution.
I can perhaps talk more on this but I’ll leave it at that.21 Reply
+1 yFor the UK, it’s not as clear cut (some generalising here).
your average army infantry guy invariably comes from a Labour held area
(Labour sit a good bit left of your Democrats, with a number of real communist types).
They will usually be pretty firm Labour supporters on joining, some remain Labour, especially if from a mining area.
then longer people stay in they will vote for whatever party is giving them decent pay rises and equipment.
Seniors are pretty much always Conservative but some officers are also Labour.
Historically the military voted conservative, then New Labour, then Conservative as the only option was Corbyn Labour, next election it’s likely going to be split between Labour and Conservatives.10 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Go into it as a conservative come out as more independent i would say. And why? I would assume to the fact military is a nationalist thing, very tribal in that sense. Conservatives tend to lean into tribal things and beliefs been facts, and the sense that one must carry on traditional stuff to them.
Therefore the propaganda of war can lean to them especially when USA was ageist china with all it's racist propaganda ageist Chinese people, about how there always sneaky and evil no matter what.
I think this lines up pretty well with conservative views with there examples of views on other races.
Though one cannot forget it really depends on what war and when and what reason. Because i think this would be very different if you were to mention been a Russian solider for example back in 1940s less likely conservative more just doing what you had to live really.10 Reply
+1 yNavy, actual veteran from the Navy. Its an easy answer. Why are men in general more conservative. why are people who support the constitution more likely to be conservative. Its constitutional. Love guns. I am more of a libertarian , but its a fairly easy thing to see, why men and military's men or even military women , Wholesomely believe in a meritocracy , and furthermore a side that always supports the 27 amendments. 2% of U. S citizens qualify to be in the military. so we get told we are the best and earned it. and we aren't the best.. but some of us are and a lot of vets are really great people. I have a bias, but thats theirs too.
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+1 yBecause, in war, you have to be responsible for, and take care of, yourself, otherwise you die.
Responsibility is the main difference between liberals and conservatives.
Liberals want someone else (the government) to take care of you, while Conservatives want you to take care of yourself.30 Reply - 5.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 ybecause if you're liberal, you're less likely to wanna fight for anything, cause you think everyone should just get everything for free xD
i mean to them "not getting the job cause you were not as qualified as someone of a different sex or race" is already considered "oppression". they are far too weak mentally to have a real fight unless it's the karen sort of pointless triggered fight that isn't about life or death but just about forcing your opinion on someone else.
this is obviously not a serious answer. everyone who got offended by this, go to your local safe space and cure your micro aggressions.10 Reply - 5.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 yI guess that really depends on what you mean by "Conservative". In terms of old fashioned Conservative values/principles, it makes sense.
1. A valid concern about U. S. involvement in Foreign Affairs. Making sure that we are engaged in this global debate about democracy.
2. A founding Conservative principle of the nuclear family. Military families span decades, even centuries.
3. The "old" Conservative values of honor, duty and purpose.10 Reply - 1.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic.
+1 y1st is that conservatives generally revere and respect the military, whereas the majority of Anti Military people are Left leaning. Similarly the demographics of the Military. There are a lot of Norteños (Not the gangs, but Northerner Mexicans who are typically sepparate from the rest of Mexico and closer to the US as well as Mexicans in the south US Especially Texas). Incredibly conservative lot they are. Most Latinos I met were Norteños, Cuban, Puerto Rican or fleeing Venezuela. Also a lot of other Foreigners from Traditional conservative countries like Nigeria, India, Nepal. Also a lot of Vietnamese Thai Cambodian... etc. Basically the vast majority of Foreigners in the Military are or were fleeing a Socialist/Communist Hellhole and want nothing to do with the Democrat party. Or they're just Africain and therefore super religious and hate Black American culture.
00 Reply Because military without strict and conservative rules would be easily defeated by any more organised enemy.
If I am not mistaken, military is about following routines and being able to trust that others are doing the same. Knowing that if one gets under fire, others will follow protocols, and will return the fire instead of running away and abandoning the soldier.10 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The core fighting force (those sent into combat) are highly conservative and the rest of the military tends to be mixed or leftist. The top brass are now heavily left-wing and acting to purge key personnel who are not left-wing.
11 ReplyHonour, duty, courage, sacrifice, loyalty, comradeship, logical thinking, self discipline and masculinity.
That is the way of the warrior.
Those are the virtues of the conservative.
A leftard could never understand.40 Reply27.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. People who sign up to defend their country usually believe in democracy and want to uphold the Constitution. They believe in democracy and do not want to see their country turned unto a socialist state..
20 Reply1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The military represents a love of tradition , or keep old school values. The mind set of conservatives is more in step with the military ; rules , laws , traditions , follow the set standard etc.
Liberals are more apt to question an existing system and defy it or try to change it. This would not fly well in the military.10 Reply1.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Because they understand that you will always need good men to defend the innocent against bad men. Sunshine and rainbows, bureaucracies and big speeches do not cut it. So they're far less likely to follow a demagogue because they don't fall for the empty promises
11 Reply4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Why do people willing to sacrifice themselves believe in morals and a higher purpose?
Kinda obvious, don't you think?21 ReplyLok you think a Liberal would go fight for our country? Lol
21 Reply532 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. As a retired military man and veteran of many wars... we just view the world from a more practical view piont. Not saying politically we are conservative, ideals are nice... but practicality is more realistic.
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+1 yCore values in life. Not afraid. Responsible, Discipline, trustworthy, humble. Ability to work with others.
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+1 yIt draws people with a right wing authoritarian mindset and also people who believe in traditional American values.
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+1 yBecause they actually give a shit about protecting this country... Most leftists do not.
30 Reply My Dad did 20 years in the (UK) navy working in submarines, he's one of the most liberal guys I know (I'm not sure if he's a one off or an accurate representation but hey I can only base my arguments on my personal experiences lol).
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+1 y@WowwGirl it's that way because soldiers need to be disciplined. Conservatism is about tradition and traditions are usually help to strict and disciplined guidelines.
10 Reply1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Because most liberals work in big high tech companies. man’s people who have not good edu joins army.
if you check on map where new jobs are available then you might understand10 Reply8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It's somewhat more nuanced than that, but it's more of a meritocracy than the civilian world and more "colorblind" and generally different values than leftists have.
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+1 yBecause progressives are naïve people who don't have to have their shit together to confront harsh realities.
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+1 yleftists tend to have professions where you get to talk about ideas but don't have to implement them
right wingers have professions where you must implement ideas10 Reply 12.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Because you can't have a military being liberal and not killing people for money, as a conservative would.
01 ReplyBecause they require discipline, and liberal is the opposite of disciplined.
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+1 yIt seems the top brass is becoming more woke. Hence us getting waxed by the UK in training exercises. Everything woke turns to shit.
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+1 yRules and Standards. They have to earn their metals and there are winners and losers. Liberals think no one should get awards or trophies and that there should be no competition. If trophies , then both should receive them.
10 Reply 1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Because leftists don't like guns. That's why they want to delegalise them.
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+1 yAs a veteran, it's because we care about everyone. We are impartial to most political views between parties and want everyone to succeed
10 Reply11.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Recruits are mostly conservative. Veterans are not.
10 Reply8.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I'm guessing it's because they tend to think that the US is worth fighting for and defending from other nations. Based on what leftists talk about, it seems they'd rather let it be taken over.
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+1 yThey're whores for capitalism and big business. Most whores are conservative.
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@Quigly Just like Commyunizm is never real commyunizm. While you were supporting capitalism, the big business created a two tier economy. With them on top and mom and pop capitalists on the bottom. Now you have more in common with homeless people than you do with big business. Must be horribly painful and humiliating for you. You can't even afford to pay a living wage. Give it up. Keep it moving homie. I could give a fk about your sorry excuses and pathetic bargaining.
1.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Because the military appeals to mostly right leaning people.
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+1 yLearn of The Constitution & Legalities
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+1 yBecause they like taking orders and can't think for themselves.
01 Reply1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Probably because it has worked for millenia.
The military isn't something we can afford to take risks with.00 Reply392 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think it depends by country, in Israel for example Military are mostly left side.
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+1 yTo conserve ammo?🤔😗
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+1 yI'm military, and me along with my colleagues are mostly liberal in a lot of ways.
00 ReplyTheir Job since the inception of the military has been to fight Socialism/Communism.
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+1 yYou would think so, but it really isn't.
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My experience in the military was that there were more democrats. They tend to be moderate but I wouldn't call them conservative.
+1 yIt's not anymore
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+1 yBecause the military requires you to be a real man, not a whiny little sissy.
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+1 yI just think some seem to be that way
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+1 yBecause discipline breeds conservative values.
10 Reply Because they're based Chads with thundercocks
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Because most white conservatives are white
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+1 yBecause of toxic masculinity
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Explain, please?
+1 ythey are indoctrinated
00 ReplyBecause then people will run wild or go crazy
00 Reply4.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Because it’s right
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+1 yI don’t know
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