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Yes. It’s something that I learned in school at about the age of roughly 10 and is a piece of information that is repeated frequently until one graduates High School here or as you call it in France: lycee’. So far as I know this information is taught nation wide here in America.
I also live just a few miles from the border of the U. S. and Canada. At least in my geographical region of America we are aware that in Montreal and Quebec they mostly speak French still. Most of us are also aware of French place names in America like Baton Rouge, Des Moines, Terre Haute, and Montpelier.
However we have other problems. As is natural you could ask many adults in America about this and they would have forgotten or not know. At all. Kids frequently don’t pay attention to lessons in school and usually retain only the most important info, and once their done with school, they forget most of that.
It’s concerning because left wing politics have become a HUGE problem in America at least as far as roughly half the country is concerned. These leftists are trying to rewrite history to fit their narrative. It is nothing new, they’re just more bold at it now. Ask anyone in this country why America stretches from the Atlantic to the Pacific and they will be sure to tell you: “because evil whites people stole the land from the Indians.” This lie is not new. It was what most people in my country thought going back to my youth and I’m sure before I was born. This lie has simply come back with a vengeance now due to Woke ideology in America.
It is a lie because all that area in blue on the map called New France in English was land the French negotiated for with the separate Indian tribes who owned that land, the vast majority of it anyway. The French purchased the land from literally every tribe that was on it in blue, and the basic agreement made by the French with them was that they’d own the land but the Indians could continue live autonomously according to their ways of life.
As a result of the French and Indian war or as it’s called in Europe the 7 years war, France and her Indian alies had cede a majority of the eastern portions of those areas in blue to England, but retained most of it. At the end of the American Revolution, the Americans took by treaty the Americans gained those lands ceded to English won in the 7 years war.
As for the western portion which made up the majority of the area in blue, the U. S. purchased it from the French in 1803. The French could sell it because they owned it. Frankly most of the U. S. would have been colored blue had the Spanish not been making the same types of agreements with the Indians in the majority of the western U. S.
Nobody mentions any of this though. The narrative is “the evil white people stole the land from the brown skinned people who once inhabited it because white people are automatically racist and oppressors of all other races at birth.”
France is also affected by the woke ideology, most of our journalists did their study in American universities
What is astonishing is that the woke ideologies originate from French thinkers whom the Americans have called "French Theory".
That sounds like interesting study material for the future. I was unaware this philosophy came out of France. All I know is that It’s communism but applied to social situations and positions only. However most of the fools who believe that garbage want to add socialism or communism economically.
Wanting to make everything equal. People cannot be equal because they are not the same. One is faster, another stronger, another smarter…so on and so forth.
Meanwhile in America everyone but straight white men get special privileges none of us get. They (and by they I mean everyone but straight white men) get preferential hiring treatment, preferential admissions to college, and a host of other privileges and still cry about how they’re oppressed. They act as if America is Iran or something. Absolutely no one is oppressed here. Even homosexuals get special privileges. Where is the gay gene? Where is proof that homosexuality is anything other than a choice. I want special privileges because I like penetrating my wife from behind while I smack her ass and wrap her hair around my hand and tug it a bit. I was born this way damn it! Give me my privileges! Lol.
Woke ideology disgusts me so much as does modern liberalism it has driven me to become a semi fascist. I do not like totalitarian political systems but I see the lack of control and the chaos and disorder and wonder if we can handle freedom. Half of this country thinks you can wear a dress, give yourself a girls name and invert your penis and presto, you’re a woman. Half of this country thinks there are like 53+ genders which is objectively disprovable by science. I have a 128 IQ. I feel I’m growing dumber by the day having to listen to this nonsense and am horrified people believe this stuff. So, I have become 3 quarters of a fascist now as I see a strong system is required to right the ship. I am not a Nazi. I despise Nazis, but I can’t help but think we need a man like Franco in this country now more than ever.
Yes... France has strong ties to the Americas.
France still has territory in America. The island of Pierre et Miquelon, just off the coast of Newfoundland in Canada, is part of France.
The Province of Quebec in Canada is not part of France... it was... and French is the primary language there.
US President Thomas Jefferson bought the Louisiana Purchase from Napoleon, who needed the money, back in the early 1800s.
The US State of Louisiana (named after Louis, King of France) was settled by French colonists, fleeing English oppression in former French territory in Canada.
And let's not forget French Guiana, an overseas department and region of France, on the north coast of South America. That's where teh European Space Agency (ESA) launches rockets into space.
One more thing: The Nation of France is huge. In addition to the country of France in Europe, France has many overseas departments all over the world, covering all 24 time zones. If you count all those, France is one of the largest countries in the world.
Interesting trivia. The small island of Mayotte (off the east coast of Africa) is an overseas department of France. Its residents are French citizens, its currency is the Euro, and it is part of the European Union (EU). Which means the EU extends into the Indian Ocean.
Thanks for the mho
Yes. In 1600s The North (America as we know it today) was controlled by 5 European powers (British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch) eventually the British bought everyone out with money and power. All five powers owned enslaved Africans of some sort. The way they governed them was different.
Louisana culture combines west African culture and some French culture
Did you know that Russia used to own Alaska, and had colonies all the way down to California?
Russia arrived late in the game, the most profitable parties were taken.
are you russian?
No, I'm not in a hurry :)
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I would hope every American knows this. In 1699 the Kingdom of France owned a good chunk of real estate in the Americas until later that they ceded it to Spain which took possession in 1762. New Orleans became the main 'port of entry' for Spanish Louisiana in the attempt to create a "New Spain" until 1801 when Napoleon took it back for France.
The US paid $15 mill to begin annexing parts of that territory in your image in 1803 from Napoleon's France in the "Louisiana Purchase"
This was all Middle School History for me.
yea, go to the slavery museum in Louisianna for another angle. check out the bottom of that blue... that's the feeder root into the whole nation via a big river. France took that area and set about converting it from boiling hot, mosquito, reptile swamp into habitable land... a primary driver of movement of slaves... growing Indigo. Only ones who could tolerate it and survive, eventhough many didn't, were Africans. So they justified their behavior... the fatal flaw in thought that causes so much suffering.
Those kings and queens and emperors are always thirsty for more power and wealth as the poor suffer.
What's the bible say about "mammon"... "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil". mammon being money.
And, what, you think we believe that Quebec started speaking French on a whim? Or that they were just casually invited to the French and Indian war ("well, they don't have a presence on this continent, but their name's on the war; it'd be rude not to invite them")?
Yes duh. So did England and Russia 🙄. You should know this that’s kind of strange that you don’t I guess society got caught up teaching other stuff. But yes that’s a reason why we got the Louisiana Purchase and help from France In the revolutionary war. I am only 16 and know more than older people so you are welcome
Russia arrived late in the game, the most profitable parties were taken.
Yes, didn't they teach you that in grade school? Or were they too busy teaching you about gay marriage or something?
New Orleans history was shaped through trading ownership. The French Quarter was built under the French. Same with the Spanish Quarter and so on lol
Creole comes from a blend of cultures in the area that carried over
Sure...
Then came the Louisiana Purchase.
All USA kids should know this from school.
Europe had LOTS of colonies in the Americas.
England, France, Spain, Denmark, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia.
No shit? I wouldn't have guessed, considering that some states near Canada speak french as a second language and there are some french dialects being spoken by minorities, to boot.
All Americans of at least a certain age (before 12) know this because they teach about the history of the exploration of the New World.
Considering that the Louisiana Purchase is very barebones basic, entry-level US history, I would certainly hope that everybody knew that at the absolute very least...
Yep. America belonged to several countries back then. It has been recently discovered and the rest of the world wanted a piece of the new resources and land.
Yes I did. The French even tried a colony here in Florida. French Huegonots started a colony on the east coast of Florida between St. Augustine and Cape Canaveral. It was called Fort Caroline. Florida was still owned by Spain. The Spanish came down from St. Augustine and massacred the French. That area now is called Matanzas.
Chances are if they weren't so tied up fighting the Napoleonic wars they'd still have them.
No ,
The French lost those territories to the British in what was called the 7 years war or French and Indian War. It was prior to the American Revolution. The Napoleonic wars were in the early 1800’s.
This is why we have the world so F’d up right now. No one knows history. If they did we wouldn’t have rampant woke ideology spreading through the Americas and Europe. People would see it for what it is. Marxism minus the economic aspect and applied to society and social situations. If people knew history they would know what evil communism has done the world over.
Instead we have people in America and I’m sure Britain who have no mental handicap but act is if they’re fully retarded. The left wing politics we have today are in part a direct result to not knowing history, actually real history instead of the lies taught by the left.
I just watched a presentation from I believe the Microsoft cooperation last week. The presenter briefly stated her name and the material and then went on to mention they are presenting this on the former lands of roughly 6 different Indian tribes. Can you imagine if someone in the UK was giving a presentation and said: “hi my name is Mary Poppins and we’re coming to you live from Dover, England on the land that is now ours but once belonged to the Norman French, and prior to that the Anglo-Saxons, and prior to the the Welch, and prior to that the Romans, and prior to that….. You’d think they were an idiot I hope. Everyone has conquered everyone on this planet, but because Indians have brown skin we have to listen to this babble as if it’s relevant.
Or then there’s the Louisiana Purchase. A huge tract of land America purchased from France that included much of the Great Plains. Yet fools in this country run around talking about how white people stole the entire continent from the Indians. The word purchase would imply buying rather than stealing and the French made their own agreements with the individual tribes for that land. Those Indians
Were technically French subjects prior. Can’t sell something you don’t own. But no one is mentioning this or how the Dutch purchased the island of Manhattan from the Indians or how the Spanish owned vast tracts of land in the Americas, where like the French they worked out deals with the Indians there for the land, and when Mexico had a Revolution, those lands became Mexicos and how America defeated the Mexicans in the Mexican War and the resulting Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo caused the Mexicans to cede that land to America. Effectively the majority of this country was bought from or won by conquest with peoples other than the Indians and the majority of their land was not stolen. Nobody seems to know this here in America or on the other side of the Atlantic.
Not knowing this information is in part why we are where we are today. With people running around claiming everything is racism.
I’m not coming down on you purplepoppy, and trying to give you grief. I’m just saying maybe in America we should be spending more time not only teaching history but true history instead of lies and instead of spending time on garbage like Critical Race Theory and maybe it would do you Brits justice to do likewise.
You not knowing when the Napoleonic wars occurred vs the 7 years war is not critical to what I’m saying. What is critical is to understand the past so 1. People can’t rewrite it to fit their narrative and people will know better when and if they do, and 2. It’s important to understand how we got to where we are now and likewise with people groups and nations other than our own so hopefully we can avoid the errors of the past. Then again, maybe not. I think it was Hegel who stated “the only thing we learn from history is that we do not learn from history.”
More a hobby really than hate. My point was England and France had been fighting for centuries not ending until the Napoleonic wars. America was just a sideline, without conflict closer to home it's likely france would have kept America.
@purplepoppy hobby? Lol Europeans are so dumb and overrated
Did you know that the only reason the US are free is because France help them fight off the British? No really they were losing before they joining the war. They even trained American soldiers.
so the French have not always been cowards 🤣
Do you know why they fleed? Because they didn't want paris to be destroyed. Even if they won they would have lost their city. It worked. Kept their lives to fight another day and their capital was left in one piece.
The reasons are more complex than that.
France had suffered a demographic bled with the First World War and came out in reality very weakened from this war.
Following the First World War and its trauma, the French elites had become pacifist with the now famous slogan "never again". What made the French elites naive about Nazi Germany. Add to that a certain level of incompetence
Did you know that after the war tactic that made the German army beat the allies and take over France was spotted?
Yes! A scout saw the advancing German troops moving to attack their flanks. And he warned the french general!!!
What the idiot did? "No way you saw wrong. No way they would do that. If they did that we would lose and no way we will..."
And did nothing about it. How fun was that?
I'm not an American nor French, but even I know that.
Didn't America buy Louisiana from the French?
Yeah
Yes we are taught this in the American schools as well as the French and Indian War.
Yes. I learned that in highschool.
I also learned the Vikings were here before the French.
There was even a short lived swedish colony. But like our fort in Russia it was a doomed project.
Spain did too, this is basic US History taught in grade school.
Yeah wonder what happened to those erm blue bits…
I think the treacherous Albion stole them from us, but they didn't keep them for long either 😅
Yeah true,
Although if they had remained Blue, how long would it have been before ‘the Terror’ was loosed on those French colonies?
if France had not lost the Seven Years' War, there would have been no revolution
@bean2k21 no The Terror
Yup. And I live in Québec... They are very stubborn with french language laws. They were Lucky they even got Quebec, if you ask me.
Quebec wouldn't even exist without France
Yes I learned that in history class when I was in school.
And they lost all of it (at least for awhile) at the conclusion of the Seven Years War.
Yeah, look at Quebec and French Louisiana.
This is US History 101.
Canada was pretty much French. And then there was the vast territories of the Louisiana purchase which contributed to the American Civil war
Of course. They were the object of the Louisiana Purchase.
Ya, who wouldn't know that from history classes in elementary and middle school?
Yeah hence Quebec Canada being french and speaking French lol also they burned down our first white house lol
Yes the Louisiana Purchase doubled the size of the YSA it was the largest single land purchase in history Thomas Jefferson Was President
I thought the American education was bad... but this, holy
yeah the louisiana purchase, it was Jefferson who made the deal with Napoleon
Fur traders, more likely than Vikings, what's your point?
I only knew about the Louisiana Purchase. I didn't know about any other ones. I know they had a fort in Jacksonville but it was very brief.
Yes, I did not sleep during history class in high school.
Of course, even Holland owned New York, which was called New Amsterdam.
Yes, I knew. How many people speak French in the United States today?
Who cares, the land belongs to the native Americans. The ones who have been here 20,000 years
Well duh, Louisiana, New Orleans and the French Quarter.
Yes, I’m an educated adult.
Wait till you learn about British
Yep, so did England and Spain.
Yes because I had a decent education.
Yes I knew
Pourquoi avez vous arrêté de parler Français? 🤣
Porque je ne parle pas le Français 😂 mais je parle l’Espagnol
Ah c est déjà très bien , Bravo à vous 👏 vous vous débrouiller deja très bien en Français 🙂
Aww thank you I had to translate that 😂😂
I mean what you just sent me right now I understood the other question though lol
Haha no problem
Yes. I assume that's where Cajuns came from.
Doesn't everyone know that?
Yes, I knew
Yea, they taught that in 5th grade.
You're so French jk haha :)
and spain, and germany, and england, etcc...
Spain and England yes. Not so much Germany, and it would be necessary to know what is called "Germany" because before 1871 Germany does not exist, it is rather hundreds of Principality.
Yes, and they still do hold territory.
Yes; we knew that. Lol
Are there really Americans who don't know that?
Well yeah, so did Spain.
I do NO has the French Quarter.
Yep and Thomas Jefferson bought it from Napolean.
Yes. St. pierre et miquelon been there
How the hell could you not know this?
Of course.
Yes?
Well duh. Look at Louisiana.
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