Thanks for the MHO
so you dont think there will potentially be a balkanization of the states down the road or 2 sides that can't reconcile their problems? I dont see a middle ground just some people saying he's a murderer and some saying he was justified. Based on our founding principles I'd say he was indeed justified. Now I can understand people having a different moral outlook on it but as per the 2nd Amendment I honestly dont see how he did anything other than follow it. Except the one thing I think can be said against him is that he was an out of stater and so in that way yes I can see an argument being made. But when someone draws a gun on you and you have a gun it's imho justified to defend yourself in kind. The kid's heart was in the right place and i dont think he had any intention of actually using the firearm. I think he believed that it's presence would dissuade people from rioting. Now you can say what you like about that and how it was foolish but... he's 17. Honestly I just see both sides drumming up and drawing lines in the sand. I dont think we have one nation anymore tbh. Its like going into two different worlds on a moral compass, sad as it is to say.
I don't want to get into this topic. I'm extremely angry about it.I started looking into it but I don't see much point in me digging around as I won't find the info I want or need. I wasn't there in the court to see all the evidence for and against and every discussion on this brings in all these personal histories that have nothing to do with this case.People who want guns will shout 2nd Amendment until the cows come home.He was a child, with a weapon he should never have had, going to a place he should never have been, to fight. That makes the stuff that happened beyond that irrelevant. If he was black, he would likely be in jail. (The jury was also not an accurate sampling of the population.)I do not think justice was done here. Not at all.I have little hope for unity in the U. S.
"He was a child, with a weapon he should never have had, going to a place he should never have been"I agree but "to fight" I disagree. I think he was trying to deter. he was foolish to think it would work and i agree a 17 year old shouldn't be in possession of that firearm. But that would technically be the fault of the parents if you ask me. I won't argue about it as I dont want to upset you further. We'll agree to disagree and thats okay. I'm not sure if it would be true about him being black and going to jail but that would have less to do with firearms or with him and more to do with a bias in the justice system. I don't even think race was at all relevant to that conversation and was highly inappropriate bringing it up. A few years ago there was a left wing all black militia that stopped traffic and pointed guns at a particular race of people talking about reparations and making threatening remarks, like i said while the muzzles were pointed at these people in their cars. What's more they incited violence and tried to call out "them boogaloo boys" looking to start a confrontation. It wasn't one person but I believe 4 different vehicles they ended up doing this too and no arrests were made. In all honesty the country is just a mess and anarchy is on the rise. The government is weak, feckless, the feds are a farce. I feel like the empire is crumbling so they're focusing on division to maintain control. Only it's failing as less and less people put stock in the government or the rule of law.
I brought up race because the jury selection has been a huge topic on this (as it should be; it's relevant.) The demographics of that area don't support the jury selection."I feel like the empire is crumbling so they're focusing on division to maintain control."The government doesn't want division. It creates instability and instability is extremely difficult to govern.Yes anarchy is on the rise. Trump is largely to blame for that.
@AmandaYVR for the Gun owners the war drums were starting on Obama's re-election. I remember it well actually when i was apart of a youtube community called "The Tacitcal Gun Community" featured on Gun Websites Forum. Honestly when the NDAA was signed it THAT is when gun owners started becoming VERY militant and that's why I kinda started to sloooowly inch my way out because I saw they were starting to go nuts and talk about preparing for door to door confiscations based on the Katrina disaster under W. I see the same zealousness on the left. I honestly think everyone has lost their damn mind. If I need to give up my guns and run to Europe or something i WILL lol. I'm not trying to get caught up in a civil conflict with that many guns from that many strangers lol. I know when I'm outgunned so... CYA!
American is gun nuts. The rest of the world thinks y'all are crazy.
Lol ya but we kinda need them. Too many on the streets and in circulation. Think back to prohibition. It's not going to stop
If I had been there your little Nazi boy scout wouldn't have made it.
@Wester1967 talk is cheap, especially through an anon based app 🤡
Everything that breathes that doesn't agree with him is a Nazi. A blonde wig is a Nazi to this guy 😆
*does and doesn't
@t-8900 he thinks people that disagree with him are mental meanwhile he comes out of no where and says mental shit 🤷🏻♀️
Too much boomer media bias consumption. This ones too far gone. Next! 😂
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yes and her husband (RIP) was too. I remember her back when she very first started. I think my gun channel started 2 years prior to her's.
how on earth could you possibly come to that conclusion? I'm not sure. In the UK when a guy pulls a knife out do you kindly stand there and let him gut you or do you do everything in your power to fight back? just curious...
Its funny my estimates are at about 16 years. Care to me a gentlemen's wager? Or I guess we can call it something else since it would be a unisex wager without money? XD
Lol that's just called a wager xD and or a bet. Sure. Yeap I try to be generous with my time, considering I see us going extinct by the end of this century at the latest
Not a right winger, try again
I think you prove her point. You jumped straight to the conclusion
Funny that we see what we want to see.
she didn't say in no uncertain terms that it had to be Jewish/Christian/Muslim. Basically people who believe and adhere to a higher power. In other words being answerable to something. She also used the Atheist world view as well. many atheists adopt science as a religion of sorts.
interesting... even though her parents survived the holocaust and she's an ethnic Jew who wears a star of david around her neck daily.
Nothing is interesting. You're an adult toddler who is FOS. Plenty of Jewish Nazis ready to sell the holocaust for a buck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AprqBXXPQH8
really I'm a toddler but a 54 y. o. man uses child language to lay out a blanket statement like "Nazi"? Yeah okay lol. Everyone seems to be a nazi these days if they dont agree with the official narrative. Drones... all of you. Still looking at things as an "us vs them" smh so lost.
You're momma failed you son. Your mouth is bigger than your little rat brain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipers_of_the_Soviet_Union
what was that link supposed to prove? LMFAO. You got no idea my family history at all. Mine contributed more to taking down fascism then your's by a country mile. And also what you linked doesn't even have any relevancy. Soviets were just as evil and cruel and did even more damage than the Nazis. So keep championing your rapists and child murderers. My grandfather's battalion wiped out 11K soviets at Operation Barbarossa in two days of fighting. I'm not impressed. Also my grandfather and his cousins cut off the Nazi retreat in the alps and arrested and executed Mussolini. My family simply put, took out the trash on both sides! ^^
I dont see how. He didn't do anything out of the ordinary. Honestly only a b*tch would allow themselves to be killed if they have a means to stop it.
Actually, I have changed my mind about this and I agree with you. See this excellent article:quillette.com/.../
@msc545 It takes an open mind to do what you just did. 😀
@exitseven Thank you - I try!