Biden is banning travel from South Africa , is he a racist since democrats said Trump was racist when he ban travel from Africa?

[888theGreat]

Yes , how can it be racist of Trump but not Biden?

No, a Democrats are allowed to discriminate against black countries

Updates

+1 y

It is 80 to 20 , so I guess more people agree with me than disagree. Yet I am an idiot and wrong.

[lightbulb27]

liberals are bass ackwards of how you think, so logic won't work. its all emotion. same with how they attacked actions at the border under trump, but are passive about it now.

they view the other side as racist in anything they do, it's their reaction because it's what they think about... because that is what is pumped in the media outlets they watch. Watch MSNBC (Mind slurping nucklehead bunch crap) for a while and you'll see it... they are brain washed into a perspective.

They never view themselves as racist. So no, it's not possible to think that.

[joeldalton]

Completely racist. He needs to be impeached

[WowwGirl]

Lmao

[TRUKIT808]

Lol ig they didn't vote for him so they ain't black enough😂

[goaded]

Is Biden blaming South Africans for the disease, or using a name that is likely to result in racist attacks?

"President Donald Trump emphatically blamed China for the coronavirus pandemic Thursday, and again made a point of using the term "Chinese virus.""
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-outbreak-trump-blames-china-for-virus-again.html

[goaded]

The smart people don't agree with either option as they're worded.

[normalice]

democrats never said trump was racist because of a travel ban. Republicans just say that democrats are calling everything racist, because they are trying to brainwash people into getting mad when racism is called racist.

Also, I've never seen a republican get more mad than when I told one I didn't think they are a racist. Talk about a tantrum. An actual visible pulsing vein on both sides of their forehead while they screamed that I absolutely must think they are racist. I was just like "but I don't even know you." It's surreal what the far right fake news has done to you people.

[Soteris]

Oh yes. The whole American problem of "The Saudis sponsored an attack on us so lets retaliate and invade Iraq who had nothing to do with it!"

Biden banning travel to South Africa would make sense (can't even be bothered to look up if he actually did it, you are not worth the effort). Trump banning travel to a handful of irrelevant countries does not. One is specifically targeting a fairly wealthy country with a decent amount of travel who has a confirmed outbreak of a deadly disease, the other targets a bunch of countries that makes no sense and only serves as a political tool to improve his popularity with racists back in USA.

Its night and day. One is perhaps effective, the other effectively exposes your biases.

[DJB72]

I'm British by birth but live in South Africa at the moment. The ban was implemented because the Omicron variant was identified by a lab in South Africa, ignoring the fact that Australia, Germany, Canada and several other countries have shown people who have the same strain. It's more likely come into SA from outside than mutated here as SA lacks the size of population for mutated strain development.

The US and UK reacted out of a mentality that suggests a highly racist or at the least xenophobic attitude towards the continent.

[loveslongnails]

No, the reason you're an idiot is because you're comparing apples with oranges. Trump banned travel based on immigration issues. Biden banned travel based on a new Covid variant, trying to keep it from entering the USA. If the new variant had been found in a basically all white area, like Greenland let's say, and travel was banned from there, you wouldn't have a soapbox to stand on. Biden's ban, or the US Government ban on travel from that area, had absolutely no fucking THING to do with race - it had to do with the virus. That's why you're an ass, because you try and adapt the facts to fit your narrow minded narrative. And also because your nose is still stuck so far up Trump's ass you can't see daylight.

[Seangreen]

I really don't see how its racist I think South Africa has like the most white people than any other part of Africa I could be wrong I know it's not a majority but just because it's Africa and they're having a problem with whatever over there right now on new strain of the virus I wouldn't say it's racist against people maybe it's racist against the virus

[menina]

He's not the only one who is banning travel from South Africa, many European and Asian leaders are doing the same.
Besides this is not new to me, Biden and Trump are both racist. The difference is that one is openly racist and the other isn't.

[888theGreat]

Which one is open?

[menina]

Obviously your hero Trump.

[888theGreat]

My hero was Reagan , but Trump was good

[menina]

Ok, I get it.

[888theGreat]

I guess you like the Socialist Osama Obama?

[menina]

I see what you're trying to do.

[888theGreat]

What? Oh my. Accusations

[menina]

You're assuming that I like Barack Obama just because he's black.

[888theGreat]

well you sure sound that way. All white presidents are racist.

[menina]

You got some jokes 😂😂😂

[TrueConfection]

Maybe Biden doesn't want... what did he call it? Oh yes... a, "racial jungle."

[grega239]

I saw that. Biden had some pretty spicy opinions 🤣🤣🤣

[TrueConfection]

@grega239 Yes! Quite a few. This is the same guy who said he was able to live in his basement in 2020, "because a black woman was able to stock the shelves," at the store. 🤔

[Paris13]

What is Good for the Gander is Not Good for the Goose when the Perfect Swan Trump was in. Now we have a Dented Old bird in Office. xx

[genericname85]

everyone who thinks trump is a racist and biden isn't, is a retard.

[Datboi65]

That has to be the dumbest fucking shit I ever read. I am Black, and I don't see an issue with the ban. The ban is due to the new Covid variant that is said to be more contagious than the ones before. Omicron, or B.1.1.529 is the name. Measures have been taken in the past, and the UK was banned when the new strain was found in their country. Does that make him racist against Anglo-Saxons?

[888theGreat]

But you BLM black brothers said it was racist when Trump did it. You can't have it both ways.

[Datboi65]

When tf did I say it was? And about what exactly? You put zero context in the matter, and then you want to bullshit us with your dumb question. When Trump was in office first off all, he didn't do a full shutdown like he was instructed, and he left 13 airports open. Plenty of people died because of that. No mask mandates, basically zero fucks given. You just want to call the Democrats racist, that's basically what you're trying to do. I can care less about Biden or the Democrats. Your party IS racist though, and deflecting from it doesn't change the fact. When Trump banned other countries from travel, nobody said it was racist because there was a whole PANDEMIC going on, and it's funny enough given his mishandling of the shutdown, that other countries started banning the US when the cases overtook everyone else. Take your head out of your ass, it will help you see better.

[888theGreat]

80 to 20 I am right

[Datboi65]

80 to 20 doesn't mean shit. It's already well known most people in this forum are dumb and don't use common sense. You jumped straight to BLM when I told you that the same guy banned the UK for their variant with no backlash. You don't see Black people mad for South Africa being put on the travel ban, so that tells me you just have an issue with the Dems (typical) and the Black Lives Matter movement, since you were so quick to bring it up, but you can give zero fucks about actual racism. Let me ask you a question. Since you care so much about racism, where were you when the whole country was upside down after the murder of Ahmaud Arbery and Geroge Floyd? Zero fucks. Matter of fact you were cursing out the demonstrators calling them looters and rioters, when only 7% of the protests turned into riots. You and your 80% don't mean shit. Any further reply will make you just look more like a fool seeking attention and trying to provoke a reaction.

[Razp_Sorbet]

Funnily enough there's a difference between banning people from coming into a country because of their religion under no logical grounds and banning a country because they have cases of a new varient of virus that could be more infectious and lethal under scientific and medical specialists advice.

[888theGreat]

Trump said it was because of disease , you are lying about the reasons

[Razp_Sorbet]

Uh no, countries from Africa were added to the executive order of immigration which was in place since 2017. African countries were added in Jan 2020. It had nothing to do with disease and everything to do with banning predominantly Muslim countries.

[Datboi65]

Ignore this fool, he's an attention whore that lacks common sense

[888theGreat]

@Datboi65 Says the liberal with no common sense

[Razp_Sorbet]

Yeah from the man who is suggesting government legislation is lying
Logical.

[888theGreat]

Your Gov't always lies to you

[Razp_Sorbet]

Does daddy trump lie to you because that's what you're saying.

[888theGreat]

Except Trump because he is not a politician. Biden , I will cure Covid , Covid worse. I will not mandate shot, does mandate shot. Inflation is just a week or two, now run away inflation. He has lied every time he opens his mouth. Trump border policy bad , now using Trump border policy.

[Razp_Sorbet]

I don't care about policies. Or things that never happened. Trump was president which made him a politician. Making political decision, political promises (most of which he didn't achieve there's an entire pdf)

[grega239]

You mean the religion that produces the most terrorists?

[Datboi65]

@888theGreat Says the fool who thinks he's right just because of a stupid poll without providing any logical arguments.

[Datboi65]

@grega239 The argument right now is about COVID. If you want to equate a COVID ban to a literal immigration ban when there's no pandemic, you're a fool. Then I see the idiots calling the president racist for trying to decrease the spread of the disease, but glorify Trump for banning immigration of certain people? If you want to tell us you are racist, just say jt.

[Razp_Sorbet]

Ok I've changed my opinion in light of more info. it's seemingly racist. "White" countries who also have cases of omicron have not been banned.

[Datboi65]

@Razp_Sorbet Like I said, ignore the fool. He's a troll with nothing better to do.

[grega239]

@Datboi65 trumps immigration ban was because of terrorism. Seems a valid reason to restrict travel

[Razp_Sorbet]

@grega239 sure if you actually ever had terrorists from the countries that were banned

[Datboi65]

@grega239 So you don't think the COVID ban is racist then. I don't know wtf you're doing here.

[grega239]

@Datboi65 no i don't. I find it stupid that anyone would even suggest that it is. Maybe this American logic escapes me

[Datboi65]

@grega239 Voala. Now you can go sleep, because this topic isn't for you. Dude was saying "COVID ban by Democrats on South Africa is racist against Blacks", and since you just said you don't agree, I don't know what you're doing here.

[Datboi65]

@grega239 Also, for a non-American you certainly give too much of a shit about US foreign policy, when it doesn't concern you.

[grega239]

@Datboi65 im just here for the hypocrisy.

Us foreign policy actually does concern me.
The 2015 migrant crisis was americas fault because if its constant meddling in other countries internal politics under the guise of " regime change". Not to mention the new wave of migrant expected to arrive due to the absolutely disgraceful failure of the afghan withdrawal.

Us foreign policy will stop being my concern when you stop fucking around the world and go back to america and stay there

[MrNameless]

This has to do with the new covid strain. Nothing racist about it. It's just temporary, and other world leaders are doing the same to contain the new strain.

[grega239]

Yes but only americans say it's racist.

[notwoke]

I hope it's permanent, I'd really help the crime rate. Ban all immigration from everywhere, period, unless the immigrant is an engineer or doctor and agrees to pay an increased tax rate for 10 years

[sage2021]

WOW! Just think of it! A virus that is racist! What next?

[888theGreat]

Never said that

[grega239]

No but a black English guy made a short documentary about it in which he claims its racist

[Fromdusktilldawn]

Oh come on Americans stop it with your racism shenanigans. To avoid omicron to spread, stop flights from its source country south africa. Its only logical

[Anonymous]

How does that make him racist he is trying to stop a virus/ disease from entering the country wow it’s interesting how everything is considered racist these days

[TRUKIT808]

That's not the point, the point is trump was called a racist for travel bans while Obama n Biden aren't. N they did travel bans also.

[Anonymous]

What are saying?
That we haven’t learned anything about Covid in the last 18+ months and that Biden is making decisions based on exactly the same information that Trump was back then?
Or is it possible, even for a second, that we are working with different/ updated information now?

[joeldalton]

What’s that different information?

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
We certainly have more information about where the virus is raging and where it isn’t. Bans being based on that verses being banned just because you’re from China (and then it was only SOME people at that)
For example

[joeldalton]

I hope you’re trolling. Or we need to take away your voting rights.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
You guys are already working on that.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
Buddy, seriously!
You’re a Trump supporter. You are in no position to be commenting on the mental capacity of others, nor their ability to make informed decisions.
LMAO. Nice try thought

[joeldalton]

You are pretending there is a difference between banning travel from China to prevent the spread of covid (racist) and banning travel from Africa to prevent the spread of covid (not racist). You are an absolute moron, and nothing but a shill for the democrat party.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
And you are pretending that there is nothing different between now and a year and half ago?
Just because you have an inability to retain new information, especially if it doesn’t confirm what you already believe, doesn’t mean everybody has that problem.
Trump’s ban was a knee jerk reaction to the “China virus” that had already spread throughout the world. Now, we have streamlined information that tells us where exactly this new mutation is coming from. To say we have learned nothing in that 18+ months is nothing more that projection on your part.
It is you who have learned nothing.

[joeldalton]

Yeah, the new information is that the original china virus was of unknown severity so banning travel was more prudent than it is now, especially in light of the fact that this Omicron variant has "extremely mild" symptoms according to the doctor in South Africa who identified the variant.

So there's even LESS of a reason to ban travel.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
Well, it appears there are many nations around the world doing the same thing as Biden. So apparently your opinion that a ban is needed less now then it was then, is a minority opinion.

[joeldalton]

Well, of course, they have a vested interest in keeping you simpletons scared. You're easier to control that way. None of it is based on actual data and science.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
So when Trump did it, it was a sound decision, was it? But now it’s being done to keep people in fear?
So you agree with me after all. The decisions made then were based on different information then it is now.
Great!
Why all the arguing when you agreed with me in the first place?

[joeldalton]

Neither time is it a racist decision. Both times it keeps you dopes scared. Glad you agree.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
Some days, your lack of comprehension really shines through.
Today is one of those days.

[Opinion Owner]

@888thegreat
LMAO.
Do you even read the stupid shit you post here?

That’s the funniest thing I have read so far today. But then, you probably still have at least a hundred posts you haven’t gotten to, it is only noon after all, so I can’t call it the winner yet.

[888theGreat]

@joeldalton If everyone had to take a logic test and reality test , no liberal or Democrat would be allowed to vote and the country would be in a lot better shape.

[joeldalton]

@888thegreat they certainly prove it every time they type on this site.

[888theGreat]

@joeldalton yep

[Opinion Owner]

@888thegreat @joeldalton
I’ll leave you two to your mutual masturbation.
🤣😂🤣😂

[888theGreat]

You would service any guy available

[Opinion Owner]

What makes you think that? Does my disagreeing with you make me a slut or something?

[OddBeMe]

C. Trump did it for dumb reasons, not because of a worldwide pandemic. We’re bannin travel but also funding research and medical treatment there.

Also, a South African doctor might have cracked the omicron vaccine.

[Anonymous]

The media is the enemy of the people, this is just another one of their fucknig lies. Trump was not racist banning travel and anyone that said he was needs to be tried for treason.