Biden is banning travel from South Africa , is he a racist since democrats said Trump was racist when he ban travel from Africa?

[888theGreat]

Yes , how can it be racist of Trump but not Biden?

No, a Democrats are allowed to discriminate against black countries

Updates

+1 y

It is 80 to 20 , so I guess more people agree with me than disagree. Yet I am an idiot and wrong.

[lightbulb27]

liberals are bass ackwards of how you think, so logic won't work. its all emotion. same with how they attacked actions at the border under trump, but are passive about it now.

they view the other side as racist in anything they do, it's their reaction because it's what they think about... because that is what is pumped in the media outlets they watch. Watch MSNBC (Mind slurping nucklehead bunch crap) for a while and you'll see it... they are brain washed into a perspective.

They never view themselves as racist. So no, it's not possible to think that.

[joeldalton]

Completely racist. He needs to be impeached

[WowwGirl]

Lmao

[TRUKIT808]

Lol ig they didn't vote for him so they ain't black enough😂

[goaded]

Is Biden blaming South Africans for the disease, or using a name that is likely to result in racist attacks?

"President Donald Trump emphatically blamed China for the coronavirus pandemic Thursday, and again made a point of using the term "Chinese virus.""
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-outbreak-trump-blames-china-for-virus-again.html

[goaded]

The smart people don't agree with either option as they're worded.

[Soteris]

Oh yes. The whole American problem of "The Saudis sponsored an attack on us so lets retaliate and invade Iraq who had nothing to do with it!"

Biden banning travel to South Africa would make sense (can't even be bothered to look up if he actually did it, you are not worth the effort). Trump banning travel to a handful of irrelevant countries does not. One is specifically targeting a fairly wealthy country with a decent amount of travel who has a confirmed outbreak of a deadly disease, the other targets a bunch of countries that makes no sense and only serves as a political tool to improve his popularity with racists back in USA.

Its night and day. One is perhaps effective, the other effectively exposes your biases.

[normalice]

democrats never said trump was racist because of a travel ban. Republicans just say that democrats are calling everything racist, because they are trying to brainwash people into getting mad when racism is called racist.

Also, I've never seen a republican get more mad than when I told one I didn't think they are a racist. Talk about a tantrum. An actual visible pulsing vein on both sides of their forehead while they screamed that I absolutely must think they are racist. I was just like "but I don't even know you." It's surreal what the far right fake news has done to you people.

[DJB72]

I'm British by birth but live in South Africa at the moment. The ban was implemented because the Omicron variant was identified by a lab in South Africa, ignoring the fact that Australia, Germany, Canada and several other countries have shown people who have the same strain. It's more likely come into SA from outside than mutated here as SA lacks the size of population for mutated strain development.

The US and UK reacted out of a mentality that suggests a highly racist or at the least xenophobic attitude towards the continent.

[loveslongnails]

No, the reason you're an idiot is because you're comparing apples with oranges. Trump banned travel based on immigration issues. Biden banned travel based on a new Covid variant, trying to keep it from entering the USA. If the new variant had been found in a basically all white area, like Greenland let's say, and travel was banned from there, you wouldn't have a soapbox to stand on. Biden's ban, or the US Government ban on travel from that area, had absolutely no fucking THING to do with race - it had to do with the virus. That's why you're an ass, because you try and adapt the facts to fit your narrow minded narrative. And also because your nose is still stuck so far up Trump's ass you can't see daylight.

[Seangreen]

I really don't see how its racist I think South Africa has like the most white people than any other part of Africa I could be wrong I know it's not a majority but just because it's Africa and they're having a problem with whatever over there right now on new strain of the virus I wouldn't say it's racist against people maybe it's racist against the virus

[menina]

He's not the only one who is banning travel from South Africa, many European and Asian leaders are doing the same.
Besides this is not new to me, Biden and Trump are both racist. The difference is that one is openly racist and the other isn't.

[888theGreat]

Which one is open?

[menina]

Obviously your hero Trump.

[888theGreat]

My hero was Reagan , but Trump was good

[menina]

Ok, I get it.

[888theGreat]

I guess you like the Socialist Osama Obama?

[menina]

I see what you're trying to do.

[888theGreat]

What? Oh my. Accusations

[menina]

You're assuming that I like Barack Obama just because he's black.

[888theGreat]

well you sure sound that way. All white presidents are racist.

[menina]

You got some jokes 😂😂😂

[TrueConfection]

Maybe Biden doesn't want... what did he call it? Oh yes... a, "racial jungle."

[grega239]

I saw that. Biden had some pretty spicy opinions 🤣🤣🤣

[TrueConfection]

@grega239 Yes! Quite a few. This is the same guy who said he was able to live in his basement in 2020, "because a black woman was able to stock the shelves," at the store. 🤔

[Paris13]

What is Good for the Gander is Not Good for the Goose when the Perfect Swan Trump was in. Now we have a Dented Old bird in Office. xx

[Razp_Sorbet]

Funnily enough there's a difference between banning people from coming into a country because of their religion under no logical grounds and banning a country because they have cases of a new varient of virus that could be more infectious and lethal under scientific and medical specialists advice.

[888theGreat]

Trump said it was because of disease , you are lying about the reasons

[Razp_Sorbet]

Uh no, countries from Africa were added to the executive order of immigration which was in place since 2017. African countries were added in Jan 2020. It had nothing to do with disease and everything to do with banning predominantly Muslim countries.

[Datboi65]

Ignore this fool, he's an attention whore that lacks common sense

[888theGreat]

@Datboi65 Says the liberal with no common sense

[Razp_Sorbet]

Yeah from the man who is suggesting government legislation is lying
Logical.

[888theGreat]

Your Gov't always lies to you

[Razp_Sorbet]

Does daddy trump lie to you because that's what you're saying.

[888theGreat]

Except Trump because he is not a politician. Biden , I will cure Covid , Covid worse. I will not mandate shot, does mandate shot. Inflation is just a week or two, now run away inflation. He has lied every time he opens his mouth. Trump border policy bad , now using Trump border policy.

[Razp_Sorbet]

I don't care about policies. Or things that never happened. Trump was president which made him a politician. Making political decision, political promises (most of which he didn't achieve there's an entire pdf)

[grega239]

You mean the religion that produces the most terrorists?

[Datboi65]

@888theGreat Says the fool who thinks he's right just because of a stupid poll without providing any logical arguments.

[Datboi65]

@grega239 The argument right now is about COVID. If you want to equate a COVID ban to a literal immigration ban when there's no pandemic, you're a fool. Then I see the idiots calling the president racist for trying to decrease the spread of the disease, but glorify Trump for banning immigration of certain people? If you want to tell us you are racist, just say jt.

[Razp_Sorbet]

Ok I've changed my opinion in light of more info. it's seemingly racist. "White" countries who also have cases of omicron have not been banned.

[Datboi65]

@Razp_Sorbet Like I said, ignore the fool. He's a troll with nothing better to do.

[grega239]

@Datboi65 trumps immigration ban was because of terrorism. Seems a valid reason to restrict travel

[Razp_Sorbet]

@grega239 sure if you actually ever had terrorists from the countries that were banned

[Datboi65]

@grega239 So you don't think the COVID ban is racist then. I don't know wtf you're doing here.

[grega239]

@Datboi65 no i don't. I find it stupid that anyone would even suggest that it is. Maybe this American logic escapes me

[Datboi65]

@grega239 Voala. Now you can go sleep, because this topic isn't for you. Dude was saying "COVID ban by Democrats on South Africa is racist against Blacks", and since you just said you don't agree, I don't know what you're doing here.

[Datboi65]

@grega239 Also, for a non-American you certainly give too much of a shit about US foreign policy, when it doesn't concern you.

[grega239]

@Datboi65 im just here for the hypocrisy.

Us foreign policy actually does concern me.
The 2015 migrant crisis was americas fault because if its constant meddling in other countries internal politics under the guise of " regime change". Not to mention the new wave of migrant expected to arrive due to the absolutely disgraceful failure of the afghan withdrawal.

Us foreign policy will stop being my concern when you stop fucking around the world and go back to america and stay there

[genericname85]

everyone who thinks trump is a racist and biden isn't, is a retard.

[Datboi65]

That has to be the dumbest fucking shit I ever read. I am Black, and I don't see an issue with the ban. The ban is due to the new Covid variant that is said to be more contagious than the ones before. Omicron, or B.1.1.529 is the name. Measures have been taken in the past, and the UK was banned when the new strain was found in their country. Does that make him racist against Anglo-Saxons?

[888theGreat]

But you BLM black brothers said it was racist when Trump did it. You can't have it both ways.

[Datboi65]

When tf did I say it was? And about what exactly? You put zero context in the matter, and then you want to bullshit us with your dumb question. When Trump was in office first off all, he didn't do a full shutdown like he was instructed, and he left 13 airports open. Plenty of people died because of that. No mask mandates, basically zero fucks given. You just want to call the Democrats racist, that's basically what you're trying to do. I can care less about Biden or the Democrats. Your party IS racist though, and deflecting from it doesn't change the fact. When Trump banned other countries from travel, nobody said it was racist because there was a whole PANDEMIC going on, and it's funny enough given his mishandling of the shutdown, that other countries started banning the US when the cases overtook everyone else. Take your head out of your ass, it will help you see better.

[888theGreat]

80 to 20 I am right

[Datboi65]

80 to 20 doesn't mean shit. It's already well known most people in this forum are dumb and don't use common sense. You jumped straight to BLM when I told you that the same guy banned the UK for their variant with no backlash. You don't see Black people mad for South Africa being put on the travel ban, so that tells me you just have an issue with the Dems (typical) and the Black Lives Matter movement, since you were so quick to bring it up, but you can give zero fucks about actual racism. Let me ask you a question. Since you care so much about racism, where were you when the whole country was upside down after the murder of Ahmaud Arbery and Geroge Floyd? Zero fucks. Matter of fact you were cursing out the demonstrators calling them looters and rioters, when only 7% of the protests turned into riots. You and your 80% don't mean shit. Any further reply will make you just look more like a fool seeking attention and trying to provoke a reaction.

[MrNameless]

This has to do with the new covid strain. Nothing racist about it. It's just temporary, and other world leaders are doing the same to contain the new strain.

[grega239]

Yes but only americans say it's racist.

[notwoke]

I hope it's permanent, I'd really help the crime rate. Ban all immigration from everywhere, period, unless the immigrant is an engineer or doctor and agrees to pay an increased tax rate for 10 years

[sage2021]

WOW! Just think of it! A virus that is racist! What next?

[888theGreat]

Never said that

[grega239]

No but a black English guy made a short documentary about it in which he claims its racist

[Fromdusktilldawn]

Oh come on Americans stop it with your racism shenanigans. To avoid omicron to spread, stop flights from its source country south africa. Its only logical

[Anonymous]

How does that make him racist he is trying to stop a virus/ disease from entering the country wow it’s interesting how everything is considered racist these days

[TRUKIT808]

That's not the point, the point is trump was called a racist for travel bans while Obama n Biden aren't. N they did travel bans also.

[Anonymous]

What are saying?
That we haven’t learned anything about Covid in the last 18+ months and that Biden is making decisions based on exactly the same information that Trump was back then?
Or is it possible, even for a second, that we are working with different/ updated information now?

[joeldalton]

What’s that different information?

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
We certainly have more information about where the virus is raging and where it isn’t. Bans being based on that verses being banned just because you’re from China (and then it was only SOME people at that)
For example

[joeldalton]

I hope you’re trolling. Or we need to take away your voting rights.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
You guys are already working on that.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
Buddy, seriously!
You’re a Trump supporter. You are in no position to be commenting on the mental capacity of others, nor their ability to make informed decisions.
LMAO. Nice try thought

[joeldalton]

You are pretending there is a difference between banning travel from China to prevent the spread of covid (racist) and banning travel from Africa to prevent the spread of covid (not racist). You are an absolute moron, and nothing but a shill for the democrat party.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
And you are pretending that there is nothing different between now and a year and half ago?
Just because you have an inability to retain new information, especially if it doesn’t confirm what you already believe, doesn’t mean everybody has that problem.
Trump’s ban was a knee jerk reaction to the “China virus” that had already spread throughout the world. Now, we have streamlined information that tells us where exactly this new mutation is coming from. To say we have learned nothing in that 18+ months is nothing more that projection on your part.
It is you who have learned nothing.

[joeldalton]

Yeah, the new information is that the original china virus was of unknown severity so banning travel was more prudent than it is now, especially in light of the fact that this Omicron variant has "extremely mild" symptoms according to the doctor in South Africa who identified the variant.

So there's even LESS of a reason to ban travel.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
Well, it appears there are many nations around the world doing the same thing as Biden. So apparently your opinion that a ban is needed less now then it was then, is a minority opinion.

[joeldalton]

Well, of course, they have a vested interest in keeping you simpletons scared. You're easier to control that way. None of it is based on actual data and science.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
So when Trump did it, it was a sound decision, was it? But now it’s being done to keep people in fear?
So you agree with me after all. The decisions made then were based on different information then it is now.
Great!
Why all the arguing when you agreed with me in the first place?

[joeldalton]

Neither time is it a racist decision. Both times it keeps you dopes scared. Glad you agree.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton
Some days, your lack of comprehension really shines through.
Today is one of those days.

[Opinion Owner]

@888thegreat
LMAO.
Do you even read the stupid shit you post here?

That’s the funniest thing I have read so far today. But then, you probably still have at least a hundred posts you haven’t gotten to, it is only noon after all, so I can’t call it the winner yet.

[888theGreat]

@joeldalton If everyone had to take a logic test and reality test , no liberal or Democrat would be allowed to vote and the country would be in a lot better shape.

[joeldalton]

@888thegreat they certainly prove it every time they type on this site.

[888theGreat]

@joeldalton yep

[Opinion Owner]

@888thegreat @joeldalton
I’ll leave you two to your mutual masturbation.
🤣😂🤣😂

[888theGreat]

You would service any guy available

[Opinion Owner]

What makes you think that? Does my disagreeing with you make me a slut or something?

[OddBeMe]

C. Trump did it for dumb reasons, not because of a worldwide pandemic. We’re bannin travel but also funding research and medical treatment there.

Also, a South African doctor might have cracked the omicron vaccine.

[SlightlyEccentric]

"It's not racist when we do it."

Democrats, probably

[joeldalton]

It’s (D) ifferent

[Anonymous]

The media is the enemy of the people, this is just another one of their fucknig lies. Trump was not racist banning travel and anyone that said he was needs to be tried for treason.

[jshm2]

Different situation, kiddo.

You're being facetious again.

[Jay3344]

I think that believing it’s racist is grasping at straws. Plenty of white people live on South Africa too.

[BillyBalls]

A Democrat can never be a racist no matter what he does.

Oh, wait!!!

Didn't Kamala Harris call Biden a racist during the presidential debates?

[Fireguy17]

no because this is way different, at least in their minds.

[_Lucian]

Its not racist at all to ban travel from a country for real safety risks or they just have bad relations.

[grega239]

No. Of course not.
he's a democrat , trump was a republican.
And as everyone and their dog knows... orange man bad

[Soleil7001]

Erm, opium washing making your skin black does not signify you are a different race. It shows that you wash opium.

[Soleil7001]

Morons always mask questions as stupid. Ukrainians, I mean - their method of proving 'superiority' (you know when you have beautiful bright eyes but your brain volume is like of a bird?) - I mean claiming superiority they don't have.
Americans should bomb that place, then give the west to poland and east to Russia with maybe a Romanian/Belorussian corridor in between.

Oh, and when you see Ukrainians in person, just slap them on the face and tell them there are no stupid questions. Bird brains learn that way.

[WhiteBoyChill]

As we always knew, the Democrats hold themselves to different standards than everybody else. They are holier than thou if you will.

[Openmindedman]

Goes both ways, if one is a racist for doing it, so is the other.
And tbh I'd you actually pay attention to Biden, he uses quite a few racial slurs...

[Anonymous]

Trump is the least racist person you will ever meet didn’t you hear his speech back then? 👍

[Opinion Owner]

Mexican Bowl dish proved it too so...

[Opinion Owner]

On Twitter

[Twalli]

Trump's reason was different, and it wasn't only Africa that he banned travel from. The reason is important.

[Anonymous]

No, because about 10% of the South African population is White

[Opinion Owner]

I had one voted "great", than had it taken down for violating guidelines. It's an automatic algorithm not the admins, so don't be so cocky

[Anonymous]

Isn't south Africa full of white people and other raves

[Massageman]

so many people agree with this - - -

[Jouth]

no you stupid fuck.

Stop chewing on extension chords, I think it's making you dumber.

[888theGreat]

wow , a liberals liberal.

[Jouth]

So anyone that disagrees with you is a liberal now?

I think you might have started drinking shoe Polish too, stop that. Or drink enough and save us all the trouble.

[888theGreat]

Dude , move to China , you will fit right in there

[888theGreat]

80 to 20 for me. I guess you are the idiot

[Jouth]

move my cock in your mouth it'll probably also fit right in

[Anonymous]

This is racist! Go to hell Biden!

[Anonymous]

Uhh there is a new variant now in South Africa..

[joeldalton]

And?

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton www.businesstoday.in/.../new-covid-19-variant-countries-that-have-banned-travel-to-south-africa-313586-2021-11-26

[joeldalton]

So is it racist or not racist to ban travel from Africa?

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton not cist. Many countries have banned travel from South Africa.

[Opinion Owner]

Racist*

[joeldalton]

So then Trump's ban on travel was not racist, either, correct?

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton when did he ban?

[joeldalton]

Back early in the pandemic

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton it was because of the pandemic. Not racist.. why tf is everyone obsessed with race?

[joeldalton]

The democrats used it to smear Trump to gin up support for their base. Now they are doing the exact same policy.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton im neither a democrat nor a republican. I hate both trump and biden. Both of them are just as racist and have weird relationship with women

[joeldalton]

I understand. But the OP was pointing out the hypocrisy.

[Soteris]

Id like to point out that Trump attempted to ban these countries before Covid19, as in 3 years before. The selection of countries also makes literally no sense in regards to stopping the spread of disease that is originating in China and spreading first primarily with its trading partners AKA wealthy nations and not countries like Eritrea which I bet neither of you can point out on a map because its so insignificant.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris Thanks for your dumbass reply.

[Opinion Owner]

@Soteris Eritrea is in East Africa. I have toured East Africa, so yes, I have been there, and I can point it out on a map.

I was not aware that Trump tried to ban travel from these countries before the pandemic started. Still, there is a new deadly variant which originated from south africa, and that is why usa, likw many other countries has banned travel. It has nothing to do with race. Im not sure about the Trump thing tho..

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton If you are going to be offensive under MY opinion, I would highly suggest you fuck off, respectfully. Thank you.

[Soteris]

@OP Well then, consider me pleasantly surprised. Hope your travels was lovely.

[Opinion Owner]

@Soteris It was, I liked Mauritius more mainly because of the beaches lmao. I feel like Mauritius was more developed than any other country in East Africa, well, also Kenya. Have you been to Eritrea before?

[joeldalton]

I'll do what I want.

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton And I will keep deleting your replies. :) :)

[joeldalton]

I don't care. You can fuck off too

[Opinion Owner]

@joeldalton again, YOU are the one commenting under MY opinion. Fuck off, loser 🙄

[joeldalton]

yup. Because I do what I want.

[Soteris]

No, I am more interested in history and Eritrea is part of the historical rival to ancient Egypt which creates a lot of very unique cultures and characters such as the Kingdom of Aksum. Maybe ill go there at some point but with a whole globe to explore its hard to justify going there first.

[Opinion Owner]

@Soteris Thats cool!

Yee, there are so many great places. You can maybe try to make a lost of places you would like to visit first. Places you are more passionate about?

[Soteris]

I already got a few in mind such as experiencing Sri Harmandir Sahib in India which is a holy site for Sikhism and has a very interesting function as a free kitchen where anyone can come and get a meal. Another place I want to see is Angkor what in Cambodia however that would probably be part of a larger world tour of visiting a bunch of ancient structures.

There are also closer things I want to visit such as Naples in Italy to see what all the hype is for their pizza (I am a sucker for great pizza) or the beautiful country of Switzerland as well as visit some family there.

That said I dont like to rank things too strictly and instead just feel out where I want to go on the day I start packing. Some days I am more tempted by the promise of good food, others for the stunning nature and a few times for the irresistible culture and monuments. My hope is that by the time I retire I will have had the pleasure to experience humanity and this world we live in to its fullest.

[888theGreat]

@Soteris Because he was smart and saw the potential of something like this. He mentioned diseases as one reason. God bless Donald J Trump putting America first. Biden puts US last.

[888theGreat]

@joeldalton He is , but not as bad as about 15 others on here

[888theGreat]

This is my question , and I will delete yours if you delete is

[Opinion Owner]

Sure buddy, go ahead. Idgaf 😂

[888theGreat]

delete his

[Opinion Owner]

Its actually quite amazing that you got triggered by this lmfao

[Opinion Owner]

So.. who's putting the ring on who? When are y'all gettin married?

[Soteris]

@888theGreat if Trump was so concerned about disease then why did he fire the person specifically in China to identify and track potential pandemics and dismantled the US pandemic response unit? Also, it makes no sense to prematurely ban travel to countries for fear of diseases that dont exist nor those specific countries since they have such a low chance of originating a pandemic because their low population.

[LikeALog]

Sure, why not.

[Anonymous]

They are one sided in their opinions.

[Likes2drive]

Well South Africa is mostly white

[888theGreat]

actually black , like 70%

[Likes2drive]

Since when? Must have changed a lot in years then but either way it’s not racist to a country with a virus

[888theGreat]

That was the problem 30% white ruled 70% black. The world was outraged. Now the 70% has destroyed the country. They have no clue what a sewage system is. They thing an electric grid is a waffle maker.

[Likes2drive]

That seems to happen quite often

[WhiteBoyChill]

@Likes2drive Strangely enough South Africa was never majority white but it used to be run by whites

[888theGreat]

@WhiteBoyChill yep

[Likes2drive]

@WhiteBoyChill yeah I didn’t realize what happened but now I know

[WhiteBoyChill]

I can understand why you’d be confused. It was basically the only post colonial breakaway government in history run by a minority of the population

[SmilesAintAgirl14]

both are racist

[888theGreat]

Well that is a better answer than the other liberals here

[Chthou95]

Lmao the hypocrisy