Why did the Vax Cards have 4 boxes from day one?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

This image is pre May 2021.

I remember thinking "Other" what the hell is "Other" for?

If they only realized they would need boosters in the last couple of months... Why did they print cards with 4 boxes from day one?

What vaccine has ever required 4 doses in the past?

It's almost like... this was the plan all along and they are already set up to give people at least 4 shots.

What was the other section for if they actually thought that 2 doses would be enough to stop the spread?

Updates

+1 y

Please stop saying "boosters make sense". That's fine. That isn't the question. The question is why are the boxes already on the card if they insisted they thought and insisted that they weren't going to add more shots. I'm not asking if boosters make sense. Why were the boxes there if they didn't think they would be nessicary?

Updates

+1 y

Libs literally just parrot back "VIRUSES CHANGE, TRUST THE SCIENCE" Without even understand the question and it gets old. So far nobody had a reasonable explanation for why they were there if the CDC didn't PLAN to change the definition of fully vaccinated from day one. And there are 4. . .

[Anonymous]

Have you ever even seen a Non-Covid adult vaccine card? Before my Mom retired, she worked for the health department where part of her job was administering vaccines to mothers and children. The card literally has like 10 slots for the Flu vaccine...alone! This is not some conspiracy, it's saving paper from having to re-print these things because no one of any real validity said "it's 100% going to be just the one shot and that's it," because how could they know how resistant so many people would be to getting the vaccine in the first place and how many variants there would be on something they learned about in 2020 and it's only 2021.

Not sure you know how science or medicine works, but once something like a new vaccine is administered, you additionally have to study it in the population you administer it to for additional health and safety checks and to check for efficacy. Please STOP believing in this myth that there is a perfect vaccine that has stopped anyone from getting the thing it prevents. We are not a homogenous society. Our genetics from one person to the next are complex and can be affected by diet, environmental factors, our biology, previous illness....etc. Even for some of THE most deadly viruses, diseases, and illness on the planet that we have allegedly cured because you no longer see their spread, you see them pop up from time to time either because people aren't getting their vaccines or someone or some people are or become resistant to the treatment.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I agree that the media and their political scientist like fauci aren't credible, but they absolutely did attack people for saying they were going to force more shots and now they are doing it.

You aren't supposed to test the shots on the entire population. They still haven't done all the trials and testing required by law.

It's one of the least effective Vaccines in history and it's killed more people in the first year than every other Vaccine combined in the last 30.

How did we predict they were going to force more shots before your so called experts?
Or, if they planned it all along, why did they lie?

But you make a great point, there was already a system for recording Vaccines and the only reason you get a new flu shot is because it's a different shot every time.

So which is it? Either they knew they were going to force more shots and they lied about it or the "crazies" knew better than the doctors.

Sounds like you think they knew all along and they lied about it. I agree. That's not a myth that's pretty obvious at this point.

Anyone with any common sense doesn't keep trusting a liar.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You think the government cares about saving paper and Vaccines are supposed to be tested on the whole population?

I'm sure you don't know how government or pharmaceutical testing works. 🤣😂🤣😂

My dad is a scientist. My mom worked in hospitals her whole life. I know how both work and how many people are full of shit because they want your money.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You forget how many hospital staff they fired for refusing the shot because they have seen it kill people and the fact that PHD's are the lest likely to get the vaccine.

Please stop believing the narrative that the only reason not to get the shot is because you don't understand it. That is proveably false and it makes you sound ignorant.

[Opinion Owner]

And your solution is what? I'll repeat, and your solution is what? If you're sitting at the head of the table and your population is dying right in front of you and a disease is rampantly spreading, what would you have done? If the solution is "just allow people to die unchecked," you forget those people are attached to families with loved ones who give actual damns about them and clearly that wasn't working. If you have family who worked in medicine and science, do they sit back and not try and find solutions to medical and scientific issues? I will forever never understand why there is endless complaining yet no other solution other than do nothing has come out of that complaining. Who is going to take out your trash, or teach your kids, or deliver your babies, or flip your hamburger, if they're all dead? Ignoring a problem does NOT make it go away, so given what these people were given and the impending need to find a solution, a vaccine was made. You're worried about lines on a vaccine card...but the lives behind that? There are people who die from the Flu and taking the vaccine every year...but how many lives has the vaccine saved? You cannot have perfection in anything related to medicine because as I said previously, we aren't all the same. You want a 100% survivial rate...find me one medicine in life that guarantees that for all who take it?

[Anonymous]

The world is fucked up the human rights have completely gone out the window

[Subarugirl]

Lol you're acting like vaccine requirements are something new lol

[Opinion Owner]

@Subarugirl nah its the added vaccines... one minute they where saying for people to get 2 vaccines and now there is more. Plus not even the government can follow the rules so why are they demanding us to obey them

[Subarugirl]

Hon its the same vaccine in two different shots... Just like a lot of other vaccines delivered in multiple doses.

[Opinion Owner]

@Subarugirl yeah I know it's the same vaccine... just the fact we have to keep getting it.

[Opinion Owner]

They are so vague with all this shit

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Vaccine mandates are new. The courts stopped them because they are unconstitutional.

You never had to get a shot to go to a private restaurant before 2020.

And exactly, if it was about safety... You can bet your ass the rich and powerful wouldn't be putting themselves at risk to go shopping or get dinner when they can hire someone to take the risk for them.

There is no risk. Biden was more afraid to be seen during his campaign than he is to walk around without a mask on. 🤣😂🤣

[Anonymous]

What vaccine has ever required four doses? Tetanus, flu, whooping cough... Quite a lot of vaccines.

If you recall back to when the vaccines were developed, you'll recall it was never claimed that two vaccines were all you'd need for your whole life. They said two worked to ward off covid, as it was. And it did. But they never knew how long covid would last. And thanks to people being uncooperative and selfish, covid stayed around long enough to mutate and make the vaccines less effective.

So what was the section for? A lack of certainty about the future. Though any fool should have known to make it a book like a passport, instead. If there's one thing you can rely on, it's idiots in large numbers making the world a worse place for the rest of us. Never fails.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

So why did they call anyone who said they were going to keep forcing more shots on people a crazy conspiracy theorist?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Also, you know the Vacinated can still spread the virus and the new varient has killed like one person in the world right?

And that was in a country that bases their reports on "anyone who dies within a month of testing positive" a man was shot 4 times in the chest and died shortly after that. They reported him as a covid death.

So if we're being honest, the new one probably hasn't killed a single person. Which makes it less deadly than the flu, cars, stairs, Joe Biden killing innocent kids with drone strikes.

Selfish is trying to force a Vaccine that kills people on a stranger because you know it doesn't work to keep you safe from a harmless disease.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Also, none of the Vaccines you mentioned require 3 doses in the first year. That's literally unheard of.

[BeMuse]

Because they thought six would be too obvious.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

[Parakeeta]

😄😄😄

[Lliam]

I didn't know that the cards had four boxes when they came out. I've never seen one.
Gee, as you said, it's as if they planned all if it from the beginning.

I feel sorry for those who fell for the scam of promoting a deadly pandemic over some infection that is no more dangerous than the annual, winter flu.

I hope the gullible wake up.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I was looking into getting a fake one but I decided it wouldn't be worth it.
That would actually be illegal, they were putting people in jail for it and I know they watch everything I do on my phone.

But they can't legally force me to get the shot. So I placed my bets with the courts and that paid off.

[Lliam]

I will resist the jab and the agenda to my dying breath. The only way we'll avert being enslaved is to say fuck you and refuse to comply.

[ChrisMaster69]

For the UK it’s always been two boxes. However our records are digital and record all vaccinations.
prior to that I had filled about 2 - 3 jab books.
I have had about 30 plus vaccines (various, but most are repeat ones)
also boosters are nothing new, even though I get a Hepatitis A vaccine, I get a Booster, same with Diphtheria vaccine and booster, Polio vaccine and then polio booster.

also, my Rabies vaccination were 3 in 28 days.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/rabies/vaccination/

How the rabies vaccine is given
The rabies vaccine is given as injections into your upper arm.

You'll need 3 doses of the vaccine, usually over a period of 28 days.

If you're planning to travel to an area where rabies is found, you should complete the full course of 3 doses before you leave.

[cmarrott]

This is the correct answer.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

That might be correct information but it doesn't answer the question.

Why does a card just for covid shots have 4 boxes when they said it was crazy to think they would add more over time?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The ones in the UK don't. Sure your government is smarter that ours. They have more experience.

[MJtheCoach]

You didn’t learn sh#t from hitler times?
Fk that card! And fk all the so called C0ViD vaxx which are slow lethal injections.


Imagine living in a time with limitless information under your fingertips and still choosing to be a brainwashed sheep.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Oh I know.

I don't have a card. I am here pointing out that they obviously planned the whole thing.

I think they release the varrients just to keep it going. That's why they are using the worst Vaccines in history. This new one is less deadly because people can see the numbers and they prove that masks, lockdowns and mRNA are all way worse than natural immunity.

If not for the lockdowns, we'd have heard immunity by now and the whole thing would be over.

[MJtheCoach]

I’m glad! I misunderstood you. We need to push back! These psychopaths Satan worshipers fags all need to buried 6 feet underground.

[youreanidiot2]

Imagine living in a time of limitless access to information and being this fucking stupid.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I can't. But thank God you don't have to because you'd probably hurt yourself trying.

😂🤣😂🤣😂

[MJtheCoach]

Youreanidiot is right! Look at Tiktok!

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

He thinks the vaccines are his dad's sweet cum. Just can't get enough of it inside of him.

[youreanidiot2]

too stupid to know i'm talking about you. 🙄

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Nope, he's too smart to realize there are people in America who are incapable of forming independent thoughts.

Please keep your toddler level insults to yourself nutcase.

[BipBipLeddus]

Viruses mutate to become drug resistant. And a vaccine takes a long time to make compatibility. You learned this in school, I'd wager.

Here's a whole independent medical study about it from 2010, how viruses mutate and how that correlates with the process of producing an effective vaccine.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I know that.

But that doesn't answer the question.

Did they know they would force more than 2 shots and lie for a year? Or did they put the extra boxes there by accident and just happen to find a use for them?

[BipBipLeddus]

The extra boxes are there on account of literally what I just said. The coronavirus has already mutated. It took 2 attempts to produce an effective vaccine for the previous strain. The next ones will be printed with a spot for the Optimus Prime virus or whatever they called it when that vaccine is rolled out.

Save paper, just leave room at the bottom.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I don't think you have any real understanding of what is going on.

The first two shots are the same Vaccine. They gave boosters of that exact same Vaccine before they very rescently updated it to supposedly do better against the varrients.

But you can't answer the question if you don't understand that much.

The question isn't "why do people need boosters"

The question is why did they deny that they would add more shots if they knew they were going to? Or... How are the boxes already there if they didn't know they were going to?

Saying they knew they were going to force more than 2 all along makes sense. Sure. That's what I'm saying.

So why lie about it and say they weren't all year?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

People are so focused on just spitting back the same words they heard on TV they don't read the question.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I think what you meant was "You are right. They obviously planned to give more than two shots all along"

Not "didn't you learn that viruses mutate in highschool"

I did. But that isn't the question.

People said they were going to keep adding new shots to the requirements. The mainstream denied that for like 10 months and called those people crazy.

Then you go to get the new shot they are requiring and... Woh, there is already a box for it on the card?

How did that happen if they were confident enough that they weren't going to add more shots to call people who suggested that radical conspiricy theorists?

And who was right? Us or them?

Sounds like you are saying it should have been obvious that the one Vaccine wouldn't solve the problem and people would either have to develop real immunity or keep getting a new shot every year.

Vaccines that don't stop transmission don't stop varrients. But you know what would? Early treatment. The thing they absolutely refuse to talk about or invest any effort into.

[BipBipLeddus]

I'm just gonna go back to other things now.

[hahahmm]

I wouldn't read too much into that. I have a vaccination card from the late 90s that has 36 slots on it. 8 slots each are for blank/unwritten possible vaccinations. The rest are for: Tuberculin, Tetarus-diphitheria, Polio, Measiles-Mumps-Rubella, Hepatitis B, Varicella. Back then the cards weren't issued by the CDC. My example was issued by a university. Sometimes hospitals issued them too, for example to record a little child's treatment.

[hahahmm]

Not saying there isn't shady things going on tho. For example the J&J vaccine was known to be really bad LONG before the FDA finally decided to tell people not to use it today.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I guess the difference for me is they didn't put covid on the existing record format.

They made a new card just for covid, said they weren't going to keep adding shots, added a shot and... There was already a box for it on the card.

That definitely strikes me as odd.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I think the argument that they knew the shots weren't great and there would likely be varrients makes sense, but then why did they call people crazy for saying there would be more shots?

Either they thought there would be two or they thought there would be more. And the cards had 4 boxes from the start.

It's not the number, it's the dishonesty.

[hahahmm]

The take away is that at least 50% of the population is easily manipulated.

[Subarugirl]

hepatitis B is three shots
DTaP is five shots
polio is four shots for the primary sequence
The Flu shot is recommended every year
Not to even mention the rabies vaccine and tetanus boosters

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The flu shot is a different shot every year.

But that's beside the point. They called people crazy for saying they were going to keep forcing more shots. Now here they are doing it and it looks like they planned it all along.

Why did crazy people predict the future and Fauci get it wrong yet again?

[Subarugirl]

The flu shot is still the flu shot, since influenza mutates so rapidly that each year they adjust the influenza shot to work better against the most popular variant for the year... the same thing that they are doing with the COVID vaccine, which is to work better against new variants.

The more a virus replicates, the higher chance there is for mutation. Just like the flu, which is replicates and transmits so quickly. If people were more responsible with hygiene, social distancing and taking the appropriate precautions to protect themselves and others, it would slow the spread, slow mutation, which would make boosters unnecessary.

he influenza pandemic of 1918–19, the most destructive influenza outbreak in history and one of the most severe disease pandemics ever encountered, was caused by a subtype of influenza A known as H1N1. During this pandemic an estimated 25 million persons throughout the world died of the so-called Spanish flu, which was first widely reported in Spain but originated in the U. S. state of Kansas.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

They haven't adjusted the Covid Vaccines. The only reason they can produce new flu shots and skip the testing is that they do it every year, they change very little and the process is tested. That isn't the case with covid.

The flu shot is adjusted to create different antibodies to respond to a different virus. It's not the same Vaccine. Flu can mean hundreds of different viruses.

I'm not sure you understand how Immunity works but most Vaccines work as well or almost as well as national immunity and the Covid ones aren't even close.

The more you fund Chinese Bio weapons labs to produce new varrients of a cronavirus the more likely a world wide pandemic is to originate in the town where the lab is based.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I think they intentionally made the worst Vaccines in history so they could release new varrients that wouldn't be prevented by the first two doses.

But that isn't thy question.

Why did they call people crazy for saying there would be more shots then turn around and say "oh look, there's already a box we printed for the third and fourth one"?

Did they lie? Or did crazy conspiricy theorists know better that the so called experts?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I'm not saying the first two shots stopped the virus. They obviously didn't.

The new varient came from Africa which is the least infected and least vaccinated continent if you don't count Australia and Antarctica.

People in Africa can't afford Vaccines.

You can't blame your unvaccinated neighbor for everything. The least vaccinated level of education is people with PHD's.

[Subarugirl]

Because a single vaccine can be delivered in more than once dose... you think that you could do a better job developing a vaccine? A recent Kaiser Permanente study found that the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is almost 90% effective at preventing infections 1 month after being fully vaccinated. 90% is better than nothing and that is still more effective than some forms of birth control...

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I'm just saying trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is a sure sign of insanity.

The Covid Vaccines have killed a lot of people and you want to mandate a third dose to protect you from a varrient that doesn't kill people because you know the first two didn't work? Sure, kill another 10,000 innocent kids because I'm afraid to get a cold?

And you call me inconsiderate for saying I don't think we should sacrifice a child to save an obese unhealthy person who is past their life expectancy and has an average of 5 comorbidities from a less deadly virus that isn't even killing them?

That's beyond inconsiderate. That's wilfull blindness in the interest of staying comfortable and at the expense of innocent peoples lives.

[Subarugirl]

The lack of correct information and empathy here is astounding.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The CDC said they were a lot less than 90% effective. More like 70-80 and even worse against Delta. They will be worse than that against the new ones.

90% is an inflated number and it only lasts for a month?

Literally, I do think I could make a better one. I would have used the same methods and processes that have been in use for decades to make every other Vaccine that worked way better than the new ones forcing people to die test a 40 year old technology that isn't supported by the people who invented it.

But the honest truth is covid is highly transmissable and has a 99.9% recovery rate. If they didn't find some way to slow it down it would be gone by now and we could all go back to being free.

That would have been a waste of money for Fauci so, they rushed out some of the worst Vaccines ever created that wear off in a couple months and still let people get sick and spread the disease from day one.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The fact that you trust big pharma to evaluate how safe and effective their own products regardless of the fact that people who get the shot still get sick, spread the virus and die and the fact that the shots killed more people in 6 months than all other Vaccines combined in written history,

But you think I'm selfish for saying we shouldn't kill innocent kids to save old obese people with an average of 5 comorbidities is...

And PHD's are the least inteligent least educated and least informed members of society...

Honestly, not even surprising at this point because some people believe whatever they hear the most and still watch CNN and MSNBC. 🤷🏼‍♂️

In the absence of substantial evidence to support your stance, attack the other guy personally by claiming to be more virtuious. That's what Hitler did and he almost took over the whole world. He said he was going to do the whole thing but 70% of some of it for a month is pretty much like all of it so it's been proven effective.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Lack of empathy is telling a child

"cover your mouth and let me stick it in you, you might die.. but at least I won't get a harmless cold so... It's really for the greater good. You know, the government. The thing. They said anyone who questions it is an undesirable and should be openly discriminated against"

You must not know a lot of people in medicine because they fired hundreds of thousands of them for refusing the shots. I wouldn't get it after seeing people come back and die from it either.

Empathy is not starving and killing innocent people to keep yourself comfortable. That's just fucking twisted.

But like I said, in the absence of facts, say the other guy is racist and stick your nose in the air.

[Levin]

I'm pretty sure the other shots, didn't have you clutching your chest when you wanted to exert yourself: odysee.com/.../NBpgoFxKHCyn:9

Not that people particularly seem to exert themselves before.

Fat people, mandating and tyrannising a private company's clot shot who obviously believe their clot shot is completely safe - tis why they insisted they indemnified themselves from any responsibility should anything go wrong. What a twisted world we live in.

[Levin]

exert themselves anymore*

[captain_voidwalker]

Dosen't matter how many boxes it has 1 or 100. Vax cards are illegal from the start. The government Dosen't have the right to dictate what medical procedures your get

[Subarugirl]

Maybe not but employers have had vaccine mandates for decades...

[captain_voidwalker]

Outside of medical fields technically that can be considered a form of discrimination so no they haven't. Anyone who told you they have is full of shit

[Subarugirl]

The medicine field does it, the military does it, airlines do it, schools and day cares do it.. and have been for a very long time.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

That isn't really true. Plenty of schools, airlines, and hospitals didn't mandate Vaccines.

Some did. But that was a choice made by the individual buisneses. They have the right to do make that choice.

But the government doesn't have the right to say they are required to and take away any alternative for people who don't want to get the shot.

Agree or disagree it's common knowledge that a lot of people have firm religious beliefs against abortion. Can't blame them for not wanting the fetus juice inside of them. They think it's a sin before their god. And shit. I can't prove it isn't.

That's basic religious freedom.

Forcing untested drugs to be tested on unwilling subjects is literally something we condemned and convicted the Nazis for after we won the war.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The military admits to killing over 300,000 innocent civilians in the war on terror.

That makes 9/11 look like a minor inconvenience.

Just because the government does it doesn't make it legal or moral. You didn't believe that when Trump was president, so why try to use it as justification now?

[Subarugirl]

You realize that aborted fetus isn’t an ingredient in the vaccine right? Lol

[Subarugirl]

Are you familiar with confirmation bias? I’d recommend you look into it.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Yes. But if I said I was going to grind up your dog, feed it to a kangaroo and have the kangaroo jump up and down to mix your milkshake you'd probably say "nan, that's alright, I'll skip the milkshake"

"But, I swear I won't put any part of your dog in the milkshake"

Yeah umm... I'm just going to go eat somewhere else. Actually you know what, maybe I'd rather grow my own immunity.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I don't support abortion but if the other option is to force irresponsible people to have kids they don't want I feel like we should let people make their own decisions.

But I can't blame people who are offended by abortions for not trusting or wanting to find the people who buy fetuses and do experiments on them.

Some people only buy shampoo that isn't tested on animals and I think that is commendable.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

*fund

[Subarugirl]

And what evidence do you have to support those claims?

[captain_voidwalker]

The military only did it for troops bueng deployed prior to 2021. And I have to take my freind to the VA from time to time. there's a big poster on the wall thats lists symptoms and says if you experience them and have had the anthrax vaccine, contact your physician immediately.
Your argument is the government should be able to mandate experimental medical procedures onto the public. Fuck that I'm no ones lab rat

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Regularly tested and approved Vaccines have bad had side effects people didn't see coming.

Hitler did it with untested ones and thay was banned at the Geneva convention.

The Covid Vaccines are not fully tested. The people saying they are fully approved are politicians and not scientists.

I bet Hitler also told people his stuff was safe and tested and they had nothing to worry about. Didn't make it true, didn't make it right, didn't make it legal.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Pretty much stop listening to people when they say "the gov did it so you know it's trustworthy"

The DoD admits to killing 300,000 innocent people in the middle east and they haven't changed their practices.

I met a marine who told me they made him shoot unarmed children in their homes and stack their bodies to be counted.

[captain_voidwalker]

Government should never be trusted

[worldscolide]

because they knew that they were going to force vaccination on us

[Subarugirl]

You're acting like this is all of a sudden something new lol

[worldscolide]

Nah it's not. Don't get me wrong I'm not anti Vax, I'm vaccinated my self @Subarugirl I just am strongly against the government mandating it, especially for those that are allergic to some of the components in the vaccines..

[Subarugirl]

Those who are allergic or are immunocompromised get medical exemptions though

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

How do I know if im allergic or not before I get the shot? 🤔

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I believe in Vaccines.

But saying anyone who doesn't believe in the Covid mandates is anti vax is like saying anyone who doesn't want to be in a forced labor camp is anti exercise.

Like, no... I'll exercise on my own terms. You want to work me to death for your own benefit. That's not the same at all.

https://youtu.be/GfDh_BTAo38

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

If my risk of death from the vaccine is higher than my risk of death from the virus you aren't trying to make me take it for my safety.

That much is common sense.

[worldscolide]

@Subarugirl not in New York..

[Subarugirl]

I never said that. I asked if you were familiar with the concept of confirmation bias.

Nearly 800,000 Americans have died so far during the U. S. COVID-19 pandemic, with more than half those deaths occurring during 2021

Over 61% of the US population has been vaccinated against COVID 19, of those who have been vaccinated how many have died from adverse reactions to the vaccine?
You claim that you’re more likely to die from getting vaccinated that you are contracting COVID 19, but have still failed to provide any evidence to support that claim.

Statistically you’re more likely to die in a motor vehicle collision if you drive… yet I’m willing to bet you still drive.

The thing is that, I think people are just trying to justify not taking steps to protect themselves and their community because because they are stubborn and don’t like being told what to do more so than out of fear of death.

1.74 women per 10,000 die in child birth in the United States,

While 1 in 10,000 have a sever adverse reaction to the COVID 19 vaccine… yet people keep on having babies

[worldscolide]

She's not wrong we have had nearly a million deaths from covid.. www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[Subarugirl]

@worldscolide yes there are legitimate medical expeditions in New York…

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I don't have babies. I don't like being shit on or screamed at in my own home. 😂

I don't drive either. I ride a motorcycle because I personally feel the risks outweigh the benefits.

But I don't try to force you to suit up in the snow and ice to save the environment. It's my personal decision.

You made the point that the Vaccines affect different people differently. You're right about that. So does the virus.

I'm a 25 year old healthy male with a strong immune system and a genetic predisposition to heart problems.

If you know the numbers, yes the vaccine absolutely does have a higher chance of killing me than the virus does. If I was an 85 year old obese lady with asthma, I might get the shot.

But I'm not. I'm not telling her not to take it. I'm not telling her to ride a motorcycle to protect the environment. I'm not telling vegans they have to buy shampoo that is tested on cats and dogs.

I believe in people making the choice that is best for them regardless of what I might be better for me. That's empathy.

It's also just called freedom and respect for others rights.

Your body your choice.

Funny how some people think that applies to them and not anybody else then sit there and call me selfish for saying it applies to everyone.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The vast majority of deaths have been people already past their life expectancy.

Old people have always died from diseases that don't bother the young and healthy. They used to call that old age.

The people who are over 75 now saw their parents die at 60 and that was considered normal.

There is an AVERAGE of 5 comorbidities doccumented on covid death certificates in the United States.

And the UK was caught and reported for documenting people who already had terminal illnesses or were shot 4 times in the chest as covid deaths. Those numbers are wildlly inflated.

If someone got shot 4 times in the chest while they had a broken toe, then died at the hospital an hour later... You wouldn't say they died of a broken toe but... Nah, that's a covid death. The official criteria is "anyone who dies within 28 days of a positive test" a lot of those people got better then died in car accidents.

But that is beside the point. Yes the disease is dangerous to a small percentage of the population who are almost exclusively old, obese, and have other existing health problems.

But it's not at all dangerous to me. The shot could kill me. The virus can't. That's pretty much a no brainier.

It's like, imagine I had decided to join a gang. But then I said "hey can you line your kids up in front of me to block the bullet, it's very unlikely they will get hurt"

"No. You won't? That's so inconsiderate. Where is your empathy?"

Like shit, you made bad decisions. I didn't. I don't have to take the risk of heart failure from an experimental shot because I don't need it. I'm not at risk from the virus.

You should have taken better care of yourself and you wouldn't be either.

But no, I won't take a chance at being the one who dies to protect a 85 year old obese person who smoked their whole life.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

My Gramma explained it to me about social security. She said she wanted to cancel it. I said "but Gramma, how would you get by without it" she shrugged and said she barely got by with it... But at least I would have a better future.

Old people die. Thats part of life. This is the first time in history where they want to kill young healthy people to protect them from a disease even 99% of old people survive and recover from.

People don't live forever. Covid doesn't kill anyone. Being old and unhealthy kills a lot of people.

1/5 deaths in the country are a direct result from smoking. Imagine how many of those happened a few months early because they also got covid.

Sickness has always been a leading cause of death for people who are very old and unhealthy. That isn't new.

Most people who die of covid wouldn't survive the flu. It's sad, but the real problem is that people are living much longer than they used to and that means there are more people who are easily pushed over the edge by relitively harmless diseases.

But shit, people used to get sick and die at 60 and the vast majority of them are surviving covid these days. Even the obese ones who smoke a pack a day have diabetes and failing kidneys.

More people died from smoking or being overweight than have died of covid.

Imagine if I smoked and drank and then found out that made me weaker to a disease so I tried to inject your kids with a vaccine that might kill them because it didn't actually work.

Then said you had no empathy for saying you wouldn't put a healthy children at risk to save an old person from the conciquences of their own decisions.

That's common sense. I can't believe people actually think that's the right thing to do so I'm forced to believe it's pure selfishness.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Get the shot if you want to.

But don't try to make me jump in front of you to save you from your own bad habits.

I take care of my myself so I don't have to worry about diseases. Plenty of old people did too and 99% of them survive Covid.

Why would I take a risk of dieing at 25 to help an 85 year old fat unhealthy guy who smokes sit on his ass for another 6 months?

I wouldn't. And you can't legally punish me for his bad decisions.

[Subarugirl]

Lol you talk a lot yet manage to avoid every question I ask.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

What blows my mind is that people are still arguing to try to enforce a policy that has been ruled to be a violation of someone else's constitutional rights and they think they have the moral high ground.

Gramma taught me better. She was a good lady. She put her kids before herself and she told me to do the same.

I loved her, but she knew it wasn't about her. She knew she wouldn't live forever. People have it so easy now they can't wrap their heads around the fact that old people die.

But that doesn't justify killing kids to give them an extra year. It just doesn't. That's not empathy. That's ignorant selfish greed.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I answer a lot of your questions.

What question did I not answer? I'll be glad to hit any that I missed with Twitter length replies so you can read the whole thing.

[Subarugirl]

Again, you talk a lot yet manage to avoid every question I ask and still fail to provide any actual evidence.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

"what question did I not answer?"

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Reading is hard when you choose not to do it.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Oh. I found one I missed.

In August, VAERS estimated that over 20,000 had died from the Vaccines. The us military estimated that could be well over 100,000.

Problem is they discourage the doctors from reporting it and don't tell the patients what really happened because the government is liable for any damages.

You can't really expect them to report every case.

But according to the official estimates, in August, 20,000-100,000 people dead. Maybe more.

And God knows how many people suffering side effects.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You want some examples? I've got em but I'll have to scroll through like 100 videos to find the links.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

And yeah, that was the only question mark in all of your replies.

Sorry I missed it. Glad you gave me the opportunity to fix that.

Covid "killed" what, 400,000, 500,000 (I stopped keeping track) old Americans who were already unhealthy and had an average of 5 comorbidities. And we know those numbers are over reported.

The shot's probably killed 50,000-200,000 or more young healthy people.

Say it's 50,000. But the average age was 30. They had 40 years left while the majority of the 400,000 who died from covid were already passed life expectancy.

The loss of life from the vaccine is probably greater that the virus. Even if you believe the government saying the guy who was shot four times in the chest died of covid.

But shit, by your own admission more people died in the year with Vaccines than the year without them.

There are new studies out that indicate the Vaccines can overstimulate your immune response and cause the virus to be more deadly in some cases.

I'm at no risk right now. If the Vaccines worked you wouldn't care if I took one but they told you it's my fault even though I've never had covid so I haven't infected one single person.

[TexasRed95]

It probably was set up. I forgot the name but the newest vaccine was found to have an extremely deadly side effect. More reason not to get it.

[Subarugirl]

COVID-19 has killed over 5 million people worldwide as of this writing, including almost 750,000 in the U. S.
More than 7 billion doses have now been given out, and the safety of the vaccine is very high. Serious side effects include allergic reactions, blood clotting problems and myocarditis (inflammation of heart muscle). The likelihood of a severe reaction is less than 1 in 10,000.

[TexasRed95]

Not every "Covid Related Death" is an accurate count towards that number at least in the US. You could die from something completely unrelated such as a car crash, murder, manslaughter, an accident at home or work. But they would still count it as "Covid Related" if you had Covid. The hospitals would get more insurance money if it was Covid Related so they claimed everything was due to it. This isn't public knowledge because it isn't necessarily an ethical practice. A man at my church is in charge of OR and surgery preparation at Medical City Denton where I live. He talked about it all during the major sick time during Covid because he couldn't stand it.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

There was a famous case of young healthy man who was shot 4 times in the chest and died a few hours later but he tested positive for covid like 3 weeks before that. Probably fully recovered but they still said it was a covid death.

It's not about keeping people safe. Best case scenario it's about taking people's money.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Also, I already blocked you because you just say the same bad argument over and over. How are you even still doing it? 🤣😂🤣

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

By the way, according to your numbers that's still 700,000 mostly young and healthy people who have had serious life changing it life ending side effects to protect old u healthy people who made bad decisions.

And a lot of the side effects are really strange and uncomfortable. We all heard about Nikki's cousins friend. There was another lady who became hyper sensitive to light and sound and couldn't leave her house. There was the guy who's immune system started attacking his own blood. there was a young girl who was in one of the trials who can barely talk and is in a wheelchair for life.

Times 700,000. All so you can avoid a disease that won't hurt you and old fat unhealthy people can slug out one more year.

So yeah, let's talk about fucking empathy.

[WindAtMyBack]

I don't see a problem. It's the smart thing to do. It doesn't show any kind of foreknowledge or conspiracy. They didn't know how many vaccines were needed and they never said they did. It was an unknown. It is still an unknown.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Tell that to the people who got cancelled and called crazy for saying they were going to require more and more shots to be fully vaxed.

They never said they didn't know how many. They said 2 shots to be protected but that turned out about as accurate as 14 days to flatten the curve.

[spartan55]

Because the virus, and our understanding of it has been changing and evolving since it started. Pretty simple explanation for that extra box. You don't want to vaxx then don't. Just spare me the conspiracy crap.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

That answer doesn't make sense.

If the boosters came about because of a new evolution and understanding...

Why was there a box for then from day one? 🤦🏼‍♂️

Tell me you don't understand the question without telling me you watch MSNBC.

[spartan55]

Dude, stop assuming you know what news I consume. So stupid...

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Dude, you totally ignored the point and got triggered by a joke.

We all know what news you consume. 🤣😂🤣😂

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I reject your question and substitute IM TRIGGERED, HE IS ATTACKING ME!!!

[spartan55]

Riiight, learn some new buzzwords, you're a joke.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Wow, that was some seriously high level thinking well supported by factual evidence!

I dare say you must be some sort of supreme expert in diversionary debait tactics.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You totally ignored the point and got triggered by a joke.

I'm humoring you by jogging in place while you run circles around the start line without getting any closer.

But it's okay. We are all winners here. It's your feelings that are really important. You don't have to answer the question to pass. 😂🤣😂

[josephinelcajon]

It is pre planned just as the entire pandemic was pre planned

[Mango-man]

The joke is on you.

Our cards (Europe) always had exactly three slots - date for 1st dose, date since when the 2nd dose is recommended, and date when the 2nd dose was applied.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

What's your point?

[genericname85]

because they knew they were gonna sell you more than one.

[joeldalton]

Who the fuck knows. The only good news is they may have actually overplayed their hand with Omnicron. But the die hard branch covidians won’t be swayed.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

I said early on, I hope they keep it up because that will show people the truth and start a revolution.

[joeldalton]

Except we’ve seen at least half the country angrily defend the loss of their own freedoms and fight those who oppose.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Not half, they just get promoted while the majority who are against them get censored.
And even with that, look at the "Democrat's" poll numbers. Half his supporters have already changed their mind if you believe the vote counts.

[Caunsos]

Other is we are dealing an unknown virus and it best to not assume shit. And seeing that we are now half through the Greek alphabet in variants of this virus, I say it was best to not assume covid-19 would have been a quick fit.

[Steve1071]

Why are they planning another lock down and using absentee ballots again during the midterm elections?

[Slartybartfast]

I'm not sure how many boosters I've gotten for tetanus in my life. More than four I'm sure.

[Wester1967]

To stoke your right wing paranoia

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

They sure know how to make the "conspiricy theorists" look more knolodgeable than the "experts"

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

Boxes or no boxes the people who said they would keep adding shots turned out to be right and the people who said that was crazy turned out to be wrong.

[Snakeyes7]

It’s almost like they knew the other variants would be here.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

It's almost like they were funding a lab that literally specialized in engineering new coronaviruses.
Oh wait, they openly admit to that but claim it's unrelated to the fact that Covid started in that same town and the variants show up like they are on a schedule.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

But hey, if they knew there would be varrients why did they deny they would try to get people to take more than two shots for almost a year, and call people crazy for suggesting they would?

One thing is for sure, the "crazies" predicted the future and Fauci got it wrong again.

[Subarugirl]

Imagine a virus mutating! Unheard of...

[bolverk]

In the UK the cards only had two boxes from day one.

[Anonymous]

It's called thinking ahead and preparing for the unknown. Most smart people do it, so why use it as fodder for a dumb conspiracy theory?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

If they were planning to force more shots, why did they say the people who said they were planning to force more shots were crazy conspiracy theorists?

Which is it? Are we crazy because we knew this was coming? Or were they planning it the whole time and telling lies about anyone who could see that?

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

You can't play both sides of the same fence and then call us crazy for being right and pointing out this was the plan all along.

Makes you look totally confused and full of shit.

[Opinion Owner]

what fucking difference does it make if more shots are/were coming? so boosters are needed, and? what's your point? What's the dumb conspiracy theory you're driving at? they said there'd be two shots but it turns out there's more? ok and? big fucking deal.

did you even consider this is a new virus with research and testing done much faster than normal so they didn't know how long immunity from the vaccine would last and more shots might be needed? there are lots of rational reason for more fields on the form that don't require absurd conspiracy theories.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

What is the theory?

I'm saying they planned to force more than two shots all along and lied about it.

You sound like you agree.

Why are you so upset about that?

[lottiebannotie]

Mad Not doing it personally

[Fuentes]

Its always been a plandemic

[exitseven]

wow, good question.

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

The scary thing is that none of the people who race to defend the narrative even understood the question.

"Boosters because varrients to keep us safe because some people refused the shot and that's NORMAL"

"Okay, so then why did they call people who said this would happen 8 months ago crazy while they printed 4 boxes Instead of 2?"

"ITS NORMAL, IT MAKES SENSE. STOP HURTING MY FEELINGS"

And I really start to understand why some people go along with it. They literally can't think. They don't know anything except what they are told and they have no memories. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[CallmeTheKnight]

I'd assume for the booster shots if you get them

[emperor90]

So u know u have had your booster shot

[Lost_in_the_Woods]

But when they printed the cards they called the people who said there would be more shots "radical conspiricy theorists"

Are you saying we were right, they planned this the whole time and then lied about it?

Because that's what I think it looks like.