Are COVID-19 deathrate super low?

[Juxtapose]

Deaths divided by cases equals percentage.

I would also like to add that the chance for everyone overall being hospitalized, including the elderly in this collectively, is 0.89%. Also 78% of those hospitalized in the United States are obese.

Why are we treating this like the black death again? Oh yeah, big pharma.

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1.5% actually, I did a whoopsie with the math but it is still a negligible percentage.

If you take out all this people who are old or who have comorbidities, the death rate is going to be way lower.

[Lliam]

The death rate is the same as the annual winter flu season. The difference is, even young people can die from the flu, whereas they are safe from covid, which seems to have a greater effect on the elderly. The average age of death "from" covid is right around the average age of death from all causes (78-80 years old).

Virtually everything that government and mainstream media has told people about covid is a deliberate, coordinated terror campaign to get people to accept 1) dehumanization, 2) depopulation by way of the eugenics jabs, sterilization, starvation and exposure, suicide, and lack of medical care for those who need it, 3) curtailment of democracy and human rights, and 4) theft of people's assets in order to set the stage for absolute totalitarianism under the Great Reset/New World Order/One World Government.

[Sargentcaptain]

Looking at bullshit like this makes me really wonder what the governemnt response would have been like if this disease was, you know, actually dangerous. The authoritarian regimes are getting this much power over a virus whose transmission can be prevented with a piece of cloth and the death rate of which can be more than halved by having a proper diet. I wonder what would the world look like if covid was more like ebola or the plague.

[Juxtapose]

Probably full fascism Joseph Stalin style.

I mean fuck, the Nazis accused the Jews of having typhus and that was an excuse to round them up.

[Juxtapose]

The worst part isn't even our so-called "leaders".. it is all the people who are willing to give up their essential liberties for temporary safety.

[DCooper]

My take is that the mortality rate from any given disease isn't something under my control, so there's not much point wasting time or energy on it. Maybe some people have enough of a nestegg to order everything delivered and never leave the house again; but most of us have lots of years of working for a living left to go, so that isn't an option. Additionally, not many of us would want to stay cooped up fulltime anyway, hiding from a 0.7 micron diameter viron. Regardless of what's going around, life either goes on, or it doesn't. That's how I see it.

[DCooper]

I guess more to the point, it's not simply about risk, but RELATIVE risk. Do I believe the Wuhan virus poses a risk? Sure. But the risk of running out of resources is 100% for those who don't accept the covid risk and go about their lives.

[SeekerOfBooty]

"I would also like to add that the chance for everyone overall being hospitalized, including the elderly in this collectively, is 0.89%"

How exactly did you come up with that number when the mortality rate is 1.5%, as you have calculated yourself?

[Juxtapose]

No, 0.015%.

[SeekerOfBooty]

You have always been a total fucking dumbass pretending to be an intellectual, but I thought you at least had your basic math down.

"Percentage can be calculated by dividing the value by the total value, and then multiplying the result by 100. The formula used to calculate percentage is: (value/total value)×100%."

It's 0.015 * 100 , you fucking cretin.

[Juxtapose]

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[Juxtapose]

Checked and yeah, you're right. It's still a negligible number.

You can name call me all you want but that doesn't change my argument.

[msc545]

And of course, morbidity doesn't exist for anti-vaxxers.

[Juxtapose]

@msc545 I'm not opposed to vaccines in general. I am against forced medical procedures.

If you want me to take a medicine, don't try and force me to do it. That's a very easy way to get me to never do what you want ever again.

Calmly show the people the facts and don't engage in fear porn. It also helps if you are actually trustworthy, which the government is not.

[msc545]

Nobody should have to please you or kiss your ass to get you to do the responsible thing. You are, presumably, an adult.

[Juxtapose]

@msc545 nobody should force me to take medicine either.

I am a free adult, you are going to have to win me over if you want me to do something I am unsure about.

[msc545]

You don't have to take medicine but you DO have to stay away from others if you won't.

[Juxtapose]

@msc545 I don't have to do anything of the sort actually.

The only place that restricts me because of covid currently is the airport. No where else I go is any different because of covid.

Uber driver supposed to wear a mask and I am too? None of us ever wear the damn things.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

The media makes things worse for us all and it's pathetic

[msc545]

I think you should stop playing biostatistician. You don't know what you're doing and the numbers you come up with are completely false. Your methodology is incorrect

[Juxtapose]

Deaths divided by cases equals the mortality rate my guy.

[msc545]

Depends on how the sampling was done and when.

[Juxtapose]

I guess you would have to ask the New York Times and Our World in Data. They didn't strike me as conservative sources, Times is usually on the side of the establishment if anything.

[msc545]

Do you actually think that simply calculating probabilities actually conveys the real level of risk that you incur? There are now about 900,000 people in United States that have died from covid. The numbers that you are relying on do not convey the phenomenological magnitude of that particular number.

[msc545]

Also, and perhaps more importantly, you continue to ignore morbidity as if it didn't exist. That is intellectually dishonest my friend.

[Juxtapose]

Why are you so obsessed with people with morbidities?

Our lives do not revolve around the sick and elderly. I measure a virus's threat by how likely it is to kill me personally.

[Juxtapose]

And yeah, everybody in the world is eventually going to catch covid and it's going to circulate around like the flu. You're not going to prevent people from catching covid, you cannot vaccinate your way out of a pandemic.

[Juxtapose]

But if you fear covid will kill you, then by all means take all the shots you want. Just keep me out of it.

[msc545]

Do you even understand what morbidity actually is? It has nothing to do with age. Educate yourself about it and then talk about it.

[Juxtapose]

Yes I do lol. It is being sick.

[msc545]

That is a minimal definition at best. It also implies chronicity.

[DryGermanGuy]

Do you have the memory of a goldfish or can‘t you remember the dozens of ICU wards running at 110% capacity with nurses collapsing and quitting? How much more of that do you need? Troll.

[Juxtapose]

Maybe *you* have the memory of a goldfish because hospitals and the amount of hospital beds have decreased over the last 20 years from 70 something thousand to 40 something thousand.

Blame hedge fund managers for hospitals not even being able to handle a 0.89% hospitalization rate because they were so greedy they took away hospital beds.

Dumbass.

[Juxtapose]

(those hospital beds are in New York, I forgot to mention)

[TallAnon]

Yes, they have been over capacity.
But what is their capacity?
If there's 10 beds, 110% capacity isn't very impressive.

[anylolone]

Likely a tenth of this.

[Juxtapose]

Frankly that is what I suspect as well.

[Dargil]

Media and government fear porn for control.

[fireforeffect]

Sllghtly more than 1/2 percent.

[Fuentes]

The sheep are angry

[OddBeMe]

I’ve read 2-3%.