Do most conservatives see women as mere incubators even if they are victims of rape?

[Anonymous]

Why do they fight so hard to force even rape victims to be forced into a pregnancy she doesn't want?

[Oigit]

It's a good example of how politics on both side of the isle tends to oversimplify a given subject or issue in order to make it fit a given narrative. For example making a woman carry a baby to full term when the child is the result of rape is going to create some serious issues. Because there is way it's not going to negatively effect the woman on mental and emotional level. Also there is a very high chance that the effect will be extremely high. High enough that it cause the women to develop suicidal thoughts and urges. Urges that she might act on before the child is born. But because of how politics works we are not supposed to think or talk about that aspect of the "political issue"

[NaultD]

I would imagine conservatives don't believe women are real people to be honest. With the whole abstinence only education the historical mindset would be "would you eat from a sandwich maker that had someone else's dick in it?" I truly think that is the long and short of it.

They can't say that now but conservatives generally want to conserve traditions. The question now is what can they get away with? And the unborn are a good unable to speak scapegoat.

[DaveJord]

I think you have a very narrow few on what you consider conservatives to be. Most people in general do not see rape victims as incubators, but there is a small minority of people that feel life needs to be protective at all costs... despite their own hypocrisy over gun control and foreign policy.

At the same time women do not have a monopoly over what they define or determine is rape. Plenty of men have been sexually taken advantage of by women... but we do not call it rape or even sexual abuse. We just call it being a dumbass man, and for most part nobody gives two shit about a man that feels he was taken advantage of because he's a man right?

[Lionman95]

I'd say no because conservatism can mean a lot of things. There are also different types of conservative people like moderate conservatives and some that are more radical ones.
I think it depends on a person and the influence of porn in his or her life.

[Asker]

What does pornography have to do with it?

[Lionman95]

Because porn enhances and radicalizes the idea that women are submissive in a way that gives the picture that women are dumb slaves and can´t decide for themselves or can´t survive without male leadership.
It can therefore destroy a guys picture of women in a negative way.

[Lionman95]

It destroys the picture guys have of women in the majority of the cases. Especially looking on SM blogs and other pages they proclaim ideas that they say are conservative but are in fact just mysoginistic and hateful.
Guys that are constantly watching porn are changing their picture of women and relationship according to it.
Like saying women are born to be dependent on men, they are in capable of decision making. Women are just holes and a pair of tits, the only reason for them being is procreation.
That´s all found in porn blogs, sometimes even posted by females themselves.

[crmoore]

You have an extremely twisted and inaccurate view of conservatives. You're referring to an extreme religious minority.

(And for those religious people out there, no, I'm not saying all religious people are the extreme minority, I'm saying the type of people she's referring to are, which is a small subset of religious people)

[Telekinetic-Potato]

The lesson to learn from those people is to never pick a hill to die on. Maybe their view made a little more sense 70 years ago. But at this point, who is it helping?

They've completely lost sight of what their origional goal was.

[Dargil]

That is a false premise. A fake news narrative.
1. Conservatives already accept the "heartbeat rule".
2. Conservatives accept the rape and incest exceptions.

Otherwise, the the time to choose is before you screw.

[NamerOfStars]

Not at all- they simply seek equality. They feel that women should have exactly the same reproductive rights that men do.

[Asker]

Explain.

[NamerOfStars]

Hermesmann V Seyer. Colleen Hermesmann sued Shane Seyer, the father of her baby, for child support. The Kansas supreme court ruled in her favor, and forced Seyer to make child support payments. This was a problem, as Seyer wasn't legally allowed to work in the US. Because he was an illegal immigrant? No- because he was twelve years old. His babysitter raped him, then took him to court to force him to pay for the results of his rape. The precedent it set was a major factor in setting the policies of FEDERAL child support laws.

If we don't get to choose whether to be parents, then neither do you. Fair's fair.

[UCrayCray]

They want men to be able to get pregnant and give birth?

[NamerOfStars]

@UCrayCray "Rights". Not "Capabilities".

[UCrayCray]

You don’t think woman have any “rights” when it comes to pregnancy and childbirth?

[NamerOfStars]

@UCrayCray Of course they do- and men don't. Thus, inequality.

[UCrayCray]

Men don’t have to physically endure pregnant and childbirth, so why would they get rights with regards to something they don’t have to do?

[NamerOfStars]

@UCrayCray Then what would be the problem with the associated obligations from men?

[UCrayCray]

What do you mean?

[NamerOfStars]

@UCrayCray If women have the right to opt out of parenthood, why should men not have equal standing?

[Crucis84]

As a percentage, of all the reasons given for the termination of a pregnancy will the reason be rape? 0.9% perhaps? 0.3? Does anyone even know? Are there statistics on this? If so, where, and how old are they? So many questions.

[Snakeyes7]

And if you look to your left, you'll see a textbook example of a strawman argument. One that is made in response to something no one has said.

[Asker]

It's not an argument, it's a question.

[Snakeyes7]

Fair enough. Although to the second question, one conservative said to me once that the child being aborted in a rape case still isn’t to blame for the rape and does not deserve to die.

[FunkyMonkee]

Where do you come up with this shit? You've been watching CNN again, haven't you?

[Anonymous]

Why do you ask this question under multiple pink and blue accounts?

[Opinion Owner]

Pro-lives see women as incubators even if they are victims of rape? ↗

[Asker]

It's not me.

[Opinion Owner]

Bullshit

[fireforeffect]

Have you visited your Mental Health care givers today?

[Browneye57]

Are you always so confuzzled?

[joeldalton]

Aah, liberal debate tactics. So exhausting.

[BarryLiverstone]

Because they don’t want the baby to die

[Anonymous]

So bloody true.

[jahaims]

Nope