Shouldn’t our politicians be, I don't know, patriotic?

[OddBeMe]

Not a requirement

Should be a requirement

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www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[Anonymous]

It’s possible to be patriotic and to hate the current government because you believe that they’re destroying your country.

I’ve accused you in the past of being unpatriotic, and you said that I was wrong. Maybe I was. You didn’t support Trump as a leader, and you wanted him gone. Are you unpatriotic or did you simply believe that he was bad for your country?

[OddBeMe]

I supported the govt under Trump while disagreeing with him. And wanting his corruption investigated.

BUT I never wanted Russia to fcking INVADE

[Recurrence]

It depends on what you mean. I’m anti war, so some people would say I’m unpatriotic, or that I would want corporations to pay higher taxes. So what do you mean by Patriotic? I don’t want someone who just goes with the flow and virtue signals patriotism when they don’t support things the US does

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

They are in it for the money they could care less about you or me. They want to keep making money the pandemic was a great windfall for DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST PARTY OF AMERICA everything made them billions costing us trillions of dollars. Just look what your paycheck does not buy anymore, and it is going to get worse.

[SinceYouAsked]

Wow - you probably think Fox News is liberal media.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

@SinceYouAsked no just look at your paycheck and what it used to buy and now what it does buy I do not need Fox MSNBC and CNN to tell me that. Democrat, Republican Liberal, and everyone else can see what is happening to us. But then there are the people who wear rose colored glasses and cannot see the forest because the trees are in the way.

[jshm2]

Don't be stupid. They are politicians ; waving patriotism and jingoism is how they get the dimwit public to follow their plans/

They would sell their soul, and yours, to the Chinese and Russians if it means more power/money for them

[SinceYouAsked]

Sure they should be patriotic. They're representing us (supposedly) and are a member of our government. Of course, the problem comes when you try to define patriotic. That varies widely in this country.

[ticonderoga2]

Are you insinuating Boebert is not patriotic? She's one hot broad, and I love it when libtards cry about it.

[ticonderoga2]

Trying to say Canadia and the US do not need to be liberated?

[Anonymous]

I agree. It’s too bad so many liberals, progressives, and democrats hate their own country and burn their own flag, while always talking about how every other country is better but won’t move.

[OddBeMe]

Why is it bad to burn the flag in protest? Better than invading the capital and beating cops, eh?

[Opinion Owner]

Well usually when people are burning the flag they are also burning buildings, looting, killing, and terrorizing. Then they go home to their homes and bask in their freedom they were just protesting against.

[Curmudgeon]

"Better than invading the capital and beating cops, eh?" Like your AntiFA goons did, in city after city, from coast to coast, for the last five years?

[anylolone]

Canada needs to be liberated like ukraine. And zelensky agrees.
"Let's go brandon" zelensky in his state of the union address before the war.

[joeldalton]

So weird that we only get the clickbaity headline (again).

[OddBeMe]

You want me to read it to you as well you lazy bastard?

[joeldalton]

It took you longer to make the screen grab than it would to copy/paste the link. Idiot.

[OddBeMe]

Not my fault you don’t like reading.

[joeldalton]

It’s easier for you to just take the L and say “the article really doesn’t back up the headline, but I’m hoping everyone is as stupid as me and doesn’t question it”

[OddBeMe]

Doesn’t get the image tho does it?

[OddBeMe]

Fckin hell…
www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[OddBeMe]

Want me to cut your meat for you too, darling?
Lol

[joeldalton]

See, that wasn’t so hard, but I get why you were hesitant. What she said was patriotic. She wants America to follow the principles in the constitution. God, you are stupid.

[OddBeMe]

After Russia invades.

[joeldalton]

That’s your stupid inability to understand English. Not what she said or meant.

[NYCQuestions1976]

Yes. We should start by halting the purchase of energy from the Diet Soviet Union.

[EnglishEuropean]

Every politician claims to be patriotic. It shouldn't be used as an excuse for failure to represent their citizens.

[IncognitoBandito]

Patriotic not necessarily, though sanity and competence would be helpful.

[WhiteBoyChill]

You picked a bad example but its definitely the liberals who say America is evil and systemically racist that lack patriotism

[goaded]

You're mixing up patriotism and jingoism.

[SinceYouAsked]

Been listening to Faux News again, haven't you? I'm guessing you don't know too many liberals.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@SinceYouAsked i actually live in a blue state. So I hear your viewpoints all the time

[Kingofkings1992]

No, because what’s considered patriotic will vary from person to person. Politicians are nothing but corrupt.

[Dargil]

The should honor their oaths of office.

[ragooo8]

Liberated from the Biden regime

[Juxtapose]

Rebellion is patriotic.

[goaded]

No it's not, it's the exact opposite.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded

Dissent is not the same as rebellion but Jefferson also said that when tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes duty. The founding fathers were not playing around with their anti-government rhetoric and they warned us about what is happening NOW.

[goaded]

If you mean what the Republicans have been doing since the election, maybe. 81 million people did not want Trump as president. That was an informed choice.

If you want to know what tyranny looks like, just look at Russia where you get arrested even for the one permitted form of protest (solo protest, basically you can legally hold up a sign saying "Down with that sort of thing", as long as you don't coordinate with anyone else.)

The USA has democratic elections, they're free and fair (enough), and you know damn well no Republican would be complaining about it being rigged if Trump had won.

[SinceYouAsked]

If you think there is tyranny in America, you don't understand what tyranny is.

[Juxtapose]

@SinceYouAsked "cruel and oppressive rule" is actually very elementary to understand.

[goaded]

And what do you think is "cruel and oppressive" about the government now, rather than in the past?

[Juxtapose]

@goaded I don't care about the past dude, I care about the here and now. We are undoubtedly ruled by oligarchs in a way the Constitution did not intend at all.

USA minimum wage adjusted to inflation and productivity would be something like 30 bucks or more.. the federal minimum wage is not even $8. The government maliciously keeps that down and works with corporations to censor and screw us over in a myriad of other ways.

[goaded]

The point is that you have an opportunity to change that situation by voting for politicians that will do what you want. The fact that far too many of them don't but people vote for them anyway is the fault of the voters in their districts. Perhaps you can educate them about the problem and propose solutions? The point is, even if it seems helpless, there are ways to get the changes you want if you can convince enough people to agree with you. Without a revolution. There's a reason AOC got elected without the support of her party's apparatus, after all.

You could make a start by convincing your local politicians to support https://wolf-pac.com and get some constitutional amendments passed to reduce the influence of money and the power of corporations.

[Juxtapose]

@goaded and look what happened to AOC.. just like Bernie Sanders, the establishment has captured her.

https://youtu.be/Q8_00JqPlOQ

Wolf Pac is a possible solution but I do fear that it might not be enough since the global elites are coaching and strategically placing people such as Justin Trudeau in positions of power. The global stage is changing and the more connected we get through technology, the faster corruption spreads throughout the globe.

[goaded]

Who knows why she changed her vote? I'm sure you don't really. You'll notice that it changed the result from 420 - 10 (one present) to 420 - 9 (two present). What difference would it have made?

The point is you need more AOCs from whichever party. The Republican "rebels" sure as hell won't vote against their party unless it's for something bad. Why aren't there Republicans who will vote against gun control and for abortion restrictions but still vote for higher minimum wage? There are Democrats who will vote against their party's platform, which is why Biden's approval is in the crapper.

[msc545]

Not like the lunatics you posted pictures of.

[goaded]

Boebert interrupted Biden talking about his son's death to complain about the last 13 US soldiers to die in Afghanistan. The war Republican GW Bush started and which cost the lives of 176,000 people in Afghanistan, including over 3,500 from the coalition.

[msc545]

@goaded I think that was an appropriate and valid complaint. The manner and timing of it were somewhat questionable only because Biden didn't start that war although conversely he probably perpetuated it as Obamas VP.

[msc545]

I think almost all US politicians at the executive level like Bush and Biden and the whole bunch of them were complicit.

[goaded]

It wasn't appropriate at the time. At least Biden can say he oversaw the end of the war.

[msc545]

@goaded Yes, that too

[Sabretooth]

it was always smoke and mirrors.