Yes, I am 100% for this. I would love to see more female brick layers and more female sewage workers and more female truck mechanics and more female gardeners. Females deserve hard labour just as much as men do
Absolutely. Any guys who think women shouldn't have equal rights should put themselves in women's shoes for just a second and see how they would like being called inferior!
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Absolutely everyone should be treated the same IN THIS COUNTRY if in fact you are a native or you came to this country and fulfilled the requirements that make you a citizen everyone else handled that requirement and there damn sure should be NO FREE RIDES, everyone working a good day's work made this country what it is that's why everyone is trying to get into the U. S. A.. (except for a certain few)
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I even have no problem with having less rights than men as long as the fucking rape and sexual harrassment stop- there are so many victims in my surroundings due to ridiculous punishments for the perpetrators in Europe. In switzerland analrape is legal. Unfortunately it is not an exception or tiny tiny minority. If such a problem exist in a first world world, it does not mattter how much you scream equality. I just want to be safe outside
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The western gag incels who complain about oppression as if they get forced to marry a old fuck or get raped, should be deported to middleeastern countries. It is ok to talk about man and woman problems but i can't stand it when these western gag incels act like have it sooo bad like women in middleeastern/Asian countries
Are you aware there have been cases in which an under age boy has been raped by an older woman, and then forced to pay child support soon as he turned 18 because she decided to get pregnant? I'm not downplaying the hardship women face in the world, yet you are doing that to men and boys. When it comes to the types of discrimination men face, you don't know what you are talking about.
Did I say men that dont getraped? A 14 years old on average is physically stronger than an adult woman. So men can defend themself at least while women need guns which is illegal in Europe
Getting raped by men is worse than by women in my opinion. At least it is easier defend yourself from women and she does not stick her nonexistent dick in you aka physically harm you.
This type of discrimination does not happen all over the western world and it is still not bad as getting opressed aka getting gangbanged for showing your hair, get killef for leaving your religion, for getting forced to marry an old man who rapes youand make you get many kids etc.
As a woman you should be used to get sexual harrassed when you go to Clubs or live in fucked up european cities/countries thst dont punish the rapists in a proper way. There was a 15 years old girl who was gang raped and filmed but the rapists are still outside
I would not complain when they made guns legal. If the state dont want protect us, i want to protect myself on my own. I dont even go outside late; i wear very modest clothes etc and still get harrassed at mcdonalds as at 15🙃.
But i am still happy to live in a more conservative country in Europe unlike germany despite being liberals since the leftists go crazy and even most famous old feminist in germany think that left is gone crazy and only harm women due to refugee crisis, and other bs
Ok, so according to your logic women raping men or boys isn't an issue, because they're stronger and hence can defend themselves. So those cases of said under age boys i told you about, since they didn't physically resist, does that mean you think it's consensual?
It is not ok to rape men. I am just saying you can defend yourself better from a woman than men. There is a reason why majority of male rape victims were raped by men
What do you mean by not physicallly resisting? Are you talking about statutory rape? If yes, age of consent is 14 where i live. I have known a lot 14 years olds who date 19-21+ adults. Unfortunately, it is not a huge issue. In my opinion it is disgusting
Again women raping men/boys is a huge issue. Men on average still can defend themself better from women on average rather than from men. This is why majority of rapists are male-not man. So it is not even safe for men.
Look i want both men and women not to get discriminated. Marriage laws or women quotes are discriminating men which for example. I may overreacted it in my first posts
I've literally just told you these boys where forced by the state to pay child support to their rapist as soon as they reached adulthood. My point is you are downplaying male victimization in society, pretending only women face discrimination and victimization by the state or opposite sex, sexual or otherwise. You are wrong. If you want to stand up for your rights as a woman, then all the power to you, i'll support your right to do that. But don't tell outright lies about men as if the grass isn't pretty shitty on their side of the lawn too. The first case i remember that happened about 15 years ago in the States, where a mum gave her sons 12 year old friend a bj, and he told his mum soon as he got home feeling humiliated. Only just last month here in the UK a 50+ year old woman was sending extremely sexual messages to her 13 year old dance student, even after he repeatedly and clearly asked her multiple times to stop, until he eventually told his mum who called the police. Having the hard evidence plus her confession, legally it was a cut and dry case, and yet she didn't spend a day in jail. Her sentence was 100 hours of community service and being placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years. Hardly a harsh sentence, and that a cut a dry case with no grey area of evidence as far as the law is concerned. Hence, you claiming that women are facing a special type of discrimination under the law that men don't also face when it comes to sexual assault, is false.
And no, that's not true either. When you use the standard of enthusiastic consent, the number of women raping men is not only nearly as high men raping women, but it's far higher than men raping men. The reason for the gap in the crime statistics is simply because it isn't reported. In pretty much all countries, a woman forcing a man to have sex against his will legally doesn't actually count as rape.
What country do you live in? In mine the UK it's 16, and that's considered low for western countries, with the US being 18.
And actually no, as far as the law is concerned men can't defend themselves from women. The law is quite clear that you're not allowed to hit a woman. There have actually been cases in which a man has called the police for help because his wife was throwing plates at him and such, and then the police came to the door not even asking what happened, but rather just arrested him while he's covered in his own blood. As far as the police are concerned men are not allowed to defend themselves from women, otherwise they will be treated as the abusers.
I am done with you. You are just putting words in my mouth and just want to pick from the context what you want. F off. What i am saying the The whole time is You will never have bad as opressed women with no rights in middleeastern countries which is a fact. You can talk about your issues but dont act like you have worse as these women with no rights in these countries
And when westerm women talk about their problems they get called feminazis, or their problems are seen as first world problems on this site/gag. At least i dont say that you annoy me with your first world problems 😃
I've never not once claimed men have it worse. I'm pointing out the fact you saying women have it worse is false. It's pretty shitty on both sides of the grass. Keep spreading these lies, and you're not gonna find yourself many male allies in said issues.
A girl got almost raped by a refugee in austria and since she managed to get her knife, she rescued herself and the offender run away with her purse till he got caught by the police and the girl is charged with bodily harm now even though police is accusing him too
Have a talk with a police officer some time, and ask them what their policy is when it comes to women hitting men, and then men hitting the woman back in self-defense. A woman that slaps a man in public is ignored. The man who slaps her back in public, is quickly on the ground in handcuffs.
I do live in a fucked up country. About... 6 years ago i think, a woman who had a history of violent assault, being in jail like 9 different times given short 2 week sentences, could have killed a man, and they just let her go with a slap on the wrist. She was in a pub, a guy dropped his e-cig, and she picked it up for him. Then she asked "are you not gonna thank me?" and he responded "no". She then responded by glassing him, nearly blinding him in one of his eyes for life. And she wasn't given any jail sentence, just given community service.
That case of the Austrian, i'd rather have more info before i made me mind up. It doesn't say what level of evidence there was and how many times she stabbed him. When it comes to defending yourself with weapons' there is a grey area, both in regards to the evidence you was under attack in the first place, and only doing the bare amount to make them stop. Excessive force will be counted as assault. For example a few years ago in the states, a guy blow a guys head off in responce to being pushed over. With this case it depends on how many times she stabbed him. If it was a lot, and it was large enough, that could be regarded as excessive force that doesn't fall under self-defense, since self-defenses require the smallest amount of reasonable force to make the other stop. That being said, it is also possible they defended the guy on the basis he's a migrant and hence protected. Same reason why the muslim grooming gangs have got away with it for years in the UK, because the police are basically told to look the other way at risk of them going to jail for hate crime or something.
Sofar i know till he stops and run away with her purse (?) She does not hunt him and stabs himThere were witnesses too I can understand when someone In this situation is irrational since this person panick and may stap the other person too much.
In the West today men and women already have equal rights and opportunities and have for a long time.
The problem is that "equality" between sexes is subjective because men and women are inherently different. For example, what is "equality" in the context of reproductive rights?
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No. As we aren't. Not in any sort of misogyny or misandry way. But the skillset experience and workforce dynamic is too different to parachute one into the other carreer path.
Great idea but will never completely work (just like Marxism can't work). Unless you can get adults who truly believe this is the way things should be and then isolate them with no outside influences so all the children are brought up to think this way (and then it will still be a challenge) you will never be able to change the minds of those who disagree with it.
Yes, I do. There is no reason to favor one sex over another, have one sex get paid more simply on the basis of their being a male. etc. Not fair at all.
That is an uninformed statement. Men don't get paid more for simply being men. That's just a leftist trope to pretend there's a problem when there isn't
I am honestly of the opinion that the biological difference between men and women is so negligible that I could not care less to even make the distinction in the first place.
Why is it people born in the 1940’s dictate how modern society should act? It boggles my mind in all honesty. We need younger people in power that can relate and understand the modern generation.
At least in my country, you are eligible for your pension at a few years before 70. In some cases it can be even sooner. The problem is that the government allows these people who are eligible for a pension to remain in the workforce, they receive the a percentage of the pension and the salary, so that's like a promotion to stay in the workforce. The problem is that this way they lock a position in a company which could be given to the next generation or a younger, more qualified person, but they don't.
In what ways? Men are better than women in some ways, and women are better than men in other ways. We’ll never be equal in everything, and hope that we never will be.
Everyone should have food, a home, internet, etc. No matter what. A McDonald's employee shouldn't be practically homeless unless a brain surgeon should be too, unless brain surgeons don't eat.
What I've learned is this: women want equal rights as men; except when it's inconvenient to them
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Name one single right... Just one.. That men have that women do not. And that would be Legal right.. One single legal right.. I guarantee you can't.. Yet i can name 5 that women have that men do not.
Please just don't complain. Right now you are having everything you want. Because every hard labour goes to men. They are affected. So just stop complaining about equality. I don't see anywhere women is discriminated in the US
Talk to women in primarily male dominated careers like Engineering or Tech industries. Plenty of discrimination for coworkers, employees and the higher ups. Same goes for men in more female orientated careers. That bias is still there.
we can never get there, then we'd have no excuse to ask for more free stuff and create discord. A whole political party would become obsolete in the USA
This is exactly what I believe. Equal in opportunity, not equal in outcome. We all need to earn the outcomes we hope for. But we should try and make it so we all have the chance to do it equally
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Yes, I am 100% for this. I would love to see more female brick layers and more female sewage workers and more female truck mechanics and more female gardeners.
Females deserve hard labour just as much as men do
@have_a_good_day yes! This. So much this.
Absolutely.
Any guys who think women shouldn't have equal rights should put themselves in women's shoes for just a second and see how they would like being called inferior!
Absolutely everyone should be treated the same IN THIS COUNTRY if in fact you are a native or you came to this country and fulfilled the requirements that make you a citizen everyone else handled that requirement and there damn sure should be NO FREE RIDES, everyone working a good day's work made this country what it is that's why everyone is trying to get into the U. S. A.. (except for a certain few)
I even have no problem with having less rights than men as long as the fucking rape and sexual harrassment stop- there are so many victims in my surroundings due to ridiculous punishments for the perpetrators in Europe. In switzerland analrape is legal. Unfortunately it is not an exception or tiny tiny minority. If such a problem exist in a first world world, it does not mattter how much you scream equality. I just want to be safe outside
The western gag incels who complain about oppression as if they get forced to marry a old fuck or get raped, should be deported to middleeastern countries. It is ok to talk about man and woman problems but i can't stand it when these western gag incels act like have it sooo bad like women in middleeastern/Asian countries
Are you aware there have been cases in which an under age boy has been raped by an older woman, and then forced to pay child support soon as he turned 18 because she decided to get pregnant?
I'm not downplaying the hardship women face in the world, yet you are doing that to men and boys. When it comes to the types of discrimination men face, you don't know what you are talking about.
Did I say men that dont getraped? A 14 years old on average is physically stronger than an adult woman. So men can defend themself at least while women need guns which is illegal in Europe
Getting raped by men is worse than by women in my opinion. At least it is easier defend yourself from women and she does not stick her nonexistent dick in you aka physically harm you.
This type of discrimination does not happen all over the western world and it is still not bad as getting opressed aka getting gangbanged for showing your hair, get killef for leaving your religion, for getting forced to marry an old man who rapes youand make you get many kids etc.
As a woman you should be used to get sexual harrassed when you go to Clubs or live in fucked up european cities/countries thst dont punish the rapists in a proper way. There was a 15 years old girl who was gang raped and filmed but the rapists are still outside
In germany
It was many moths ago. I hope they are in jail now
I would not complain when they made guns legal. If the state dont want protect us, i want to protect myself on my own. I dont even go outside late; i wear very modest clothes etc and still get harrassed at mcdonalds as at 15🙃.
The problem is also that rapist victims increase since refugee crisis. They should abort any criminal refugee at least
But i am still happy to live in a more conservative country in Europe unlike germany despite being liberals since the leftists go crazy and even most famous old feminist in germany think that left is gone crazy and only harm women due to refugee crisis, and other bs
Ok, so according to your logic women raping men or boys isn't an issue, because they're stronger and hence can defend themselves. So those cases of said under age boys i told you about, since they didn't physically resist, does that mean you think it's consensual?
It is not ok to rape men. I am just saying you can defend yourself better from a woman than men. There is a reason why majority of male rape victims were raped by men
What do you mean by not physicallly resisting? Are you talking about statutory rape? If yes, age of consent is 14 where i live. I have known a lot 14 years olds who date 19-21+ adults. Unfortunately, it is not a huge issue. In my opinion it is disgusting
Again women raping men/boys is a huge issue. Men on average still can defend themself better from women on average rather than from men. This is why majority of rapists are male-not man. So it is not even safe for men.
Look i want both men and women not to get discriminated. Marriage laws or women quotes are discriminating men which for example. I may overreacted it in my first posts
I am sorry if offended anyone
I've literally just told you these boys where forced by the state to pay child support to their rapist as soon as they reached adulthood.
My point is you are downplaying male victimization in society, pretending only women face discrimination and victimization by the state or opposite sex, sexual or otherwise. You are wrong. If you want to stand up for your rights as a woman, then all the power to you, i'll support your right to do that. But don't tell outright lies about men as if the grass isn't pretty shitty on their side of the lawn too.
The first case i remember that happened about 15 years ago in the States, where a mum gave her sons 12 year old friend a bj, and he told his mum soon as he got home feeling humiliated. Only just last month here in the UK a 50+ year old woman was sending extremely sexual messages to her 13 year old dance student, even after he repeatedly and clearly asked her multiple times to stop, until he eventually told his mum who called the police. Having the hard evidence plus her confession, legally it was a cut and dry case, and yet she didn't spend a day in jail. Her sentence was 100 hours of community service and being placed on the sex offenders register for 10 years. Hardly a harsh sentence, and that a cut a dry case with no grey area of evidence as far as the law is concerned. Hence, you claiming that women are facing a special type of discrimination under the law that men don't also face when it comes to sexual assault, is false.
And no, that's not true either. When you use the standard of enthusiastic consent, the number of women raping men is not only nearly as high men raping women, but it's far higher than men raping men. The reason for the gap in the crime statistics is simply because it isn't reported. In pretty much all countries, a woman forcing a man to have sex against his will legally doesn't actually count as rape.
What country do you live in? In mine the UK it's 16, and that's considered low for western countries, with the US being 18.
And actually no, as far as the law is concerned men can't defend themselves from women. The law is quite clear that you're not allowed to hit a woman. There have actually been cases in which a man has called the police for help because his wife was throwing plates at him and such, and then the police came to the door not even asking what happened, but rather just arrested him while he's covered in his own blood. As far as the police are concerned men are not allowed to defend themselves from women, otherwise they will be treated as the abusers.
I am done with you. You are just putting words in my mouth and just want to pick from the context what you want. F off. What i am saying the The whole time is You will never have bad as opressed women with no rights in middleeastern countries which is a fact. You can talk about your issues but dont act like you have worse as these women with no rights in these countries
And when westerm women talk about their problems they get called feminazis, or their problems are seen as first world problems on this site/gag. At least i dont say that you annoy me with your first world problems 😃
So self defence laws are saying you should not hit women?
I've never not once claimed men have it worse. I'm pointing out the fact you saying women have it worse is false. It's pretty shitty on both sides of the grass. Keep spreading these lies, and you're not gonna find yourself many male allies in said issues.
A girl got almost raped by a refugee in austria and since she managed to get her knife, she rescued herself and the offender run away with her purse till he got caught by the police and the girl is charged with bodily harm now even though police is accusing him too
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Have a talk with a police officer some time, and ask them what their policy is when it comes to women hitting men, and then men hitting the woman back in self-defense. A woman that slaps a man in public is ignored. The man who slaps her back in public, is quickly on the ground in handcuffs.
Then you live in a f up country
I do live in a fucked up country. About... 6 years ago i think, a woman who had a history of violent assault, being in jail like 9 different times given short 2 week sentences, could have killed a man, and they just let her go with a slap on the wrist.
She was in a pub, a guy dropped his e-cig, and she picked it up for him. Then she asked "are you not gonna thank me?" and he responded "no". She then responded by glassing him, nearly blinding him in one of his eyes for life. And she wasn't given any jail sentence, just given community service.
That case of the Austrian, i'd rather have more info before i made me mind up. It doesn't say what level of evidence there was and how many times she stabbed him. When it comes to defending yourself with weapons' there is a grey area, both in regards to the evidence you was under attack in the first place, and only doing the bare amount to make them stop. Excessive force will be counted as assault. For example a few years ago in the states, a guy blow a guys head off in responce to being pushed over.
With this case it depends on how many times she stabbed him. If it was a lot, and it was large enough, that could be regarded as excessive force that doesn't fall under self-defense, since self-defenses require the smallest amount of reasonable force to make the other stop. That being said, it is also possible they defended the guy on the basis he's a migrant and hence protected. Same reason why the muslim grooming gangs have got away with it for years in the UK, because the police are basically told to look the other way at risk of them going to jail for hate crime or something.
Sofar i know till he stops and run away with her purse (?) She does not hunt him and stabs himThere were witnesses too
I can understand when someone In this situation is irrational since this person panick and may stap the other person too much.
I am also sorry when these people get killed
I am also not sorry and gave no emphaty when these people get killed
In the West today men and women already have equal rights and opportunities and have for a long time.
The problem is that "equality" between sexes is subjective because men and women are inherently different. For example, what is "equality" in the context of reproductive rights?
No. As we aren't. Not in any sort of misogyny or misandry way. But the skillset experience and workforce dynamic is too different to parachute one into the other carreer path.
Great idea but will never completely work (just like Marxism can't work). Unless you can get adults who truly believe this is the way things should be and then isolate them with no outside influences so all the children are brought up to think this way (and then it will still be a challenge) you will never be able to change the minds of those who disagree with it.
Yes, I do. There is no reason to favor one sex over another, have one sex get paid more simply on the basis of their being a male. etc. Not fair at all.
That is an uninformed statement. Men don't get paid more for simply being men. That's just a leftist trope to pretend there's a problem when there isn't
There are actual reasons men get paid more for going the same jobs it’s not solely because they’re male.
I am honestly of the opinion that the biological difference between men and women is so negligible that I could not care less to even make the distinction in the first place.
What you desire is change, but you cannot achieve change when the people in higher positions are the elderly.
Why is it people born in the 1940’s dictate how modern society should act? It boggles my mind in all honesty. We need younger people in power that can relate and understand the modern generation.
At least in my country, you are eligible for your pension at a few years before 70. In some cases it can be even sooner. The problem is that the government allows these people who are eligible for a pension to remain in the workforce, they receive the a percentage of the pension and the salary, so that's like a promotion to stay in the workforce. The problem is that this way they lock a position in a company which could be given to the next generation or a younger, more qualified person, but they don't.
Of course women shouldn't be equal!!! 😯😠
They are far superior and should be the dominant sex! 😋🥰
In what ways? Men are better than women in some ways, and women are better than men in other ways. We’ll never be equal in everything, and hope that we never will be.
Equal, no.
Equity, yes.
Everyone should have food, a home, internet, etc. No matter what. A McDonald's employee shouldn't be practically homeless unless a brain surgeon should be too, unless brain surgeons don't eat.
What I've learned is this: women want equal rights as men; except when it's inconvenient to them
Name one single right... Just one.. That men have that women do not. And that would be Legal right.. One single legal right.. I guarantee you can't.. Yet i can name 5 that women have that men do not.
If we want to be treated like guys, then we will have to ready to loose some of ours benefits to be a woman, that's all ^^
Probably the most sensible answer I saw for this question.
Please just don't complain. Right now you are having everything you want. Because every hard labour goes to men. They are affected. So just stop complaining about equality. I don't see anywhere women is discriminated in the US
Talk to women in primarily male dominated careers like Engineering or Tech industries. Plenty of discrimination for coworkers, employees and the higher ups. Same goes for men in more female orientated careers. That bias is still there.
I was under the impression that we do already have total equality, or at least here in the UK.
we can never get there, then we'd have no excuse to ask for more free stuff and create discord. A whole political party would become obsolete in the USA
This is exactly what I believe. Equal in opportunity, not equal in outcome. We all need to earn the outcomes we hope for. But we should try and make it so we all have the chance to do it equally
Abuse is abuse.
There's some caveats that should exist for children and elderly.
But abuse between legal equals should be seen equally.
And when it comes to mutual abuse between equals, I say we should stick both in the brig.