True or False, Losers Whine Over Women Getting Abortions And Trans People While Winners Focuses On Their Own Lives And Goals?

[NorthwestRider]

True

False

[OddBeMe]

Yeah true. I’d say right wingers find it hard not to invade our bodily freedoms. Until their politicians knock up a mistress. Then “find god” and gets a second chance.

[NorthwestRider]

Just look at their voters, they are rather poor but love about nonsense than fixing their own lives 😂

[OddBeMe]

Wedge issues are designed as misdirection. These people would benefit greatly from Obamacare and other liberal programs. But they’re distracted by god guns and gays.

[Agagagagaga]

I find it remarkable that the same people screaming about personal freedom and bodily autonomy are the same ones that believe people should have no choice over what medications go into their body.

You’re fucking hypocrites. Do you know that? Hypocrites.

[OddBeMe]

@Agagagagaga No, no no. It’s being out in public areas unvaccinated. You want to remain unvaxxed, stay home.

[humanearth]

I say true

[NorthwestRider]

I agree. I bet the Republicans will say false

[humanearth]

I bet so

[NorthwestRider]

As I much find Democrats to be silly and useless, the Republicans are on another level of stupidly

[humanearth]

Your catching on, too bad we the masses didn't catch on a 100 years ago when they started this mess.

Kennedy spilled the beans and was killed for telling the masses

[Agagagagaga]

@NorthwestRider Here I’m gonna pretend to be you.

“All Democrats are total fucking brain dead idiots who are morally bankrupt. Do you think they will disagree with me?”

You’re such a child man. At least say something interesting or original. It’s like the shit that eleven year old children say to one another. Be an adult and at least up your insults. Maybe hire a friend who can write and say something original for once.

[nightdrot]

Voted "False," unless you consider arguing about serious moral and political questions to be whining. In which case, there is much else that would be classified as whining.

That said, the British statesman and political philosopher Edmund Burke wrote, "The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do as they please. We ought see what it will please them to do before we risk congratulations." Therein lay the problem with laws that permit abortion on demand.

A society that premises its law as "Choice"- to use the locution of abortion rights advocates - effectively leaves open the question of the value of human life. It becomes not a standing principle, but a subjective judgment to each individual. In such a society, human life becomes not an end in itself, but mere instrument. Life becomes not an object whose preservation is the highest standard, but rather a convenience to be maintained or not according to the satisfaction of another's will.

We shape our laws and then our laws shape us - see also the civil rights laws of the 1960s which have effected a revolution in race relations. (The idea that a black man and a white man cannot sit together at the same lunch counter is as alien to this generation as Neptune. Yet in 1965 it was pretty much the norm.)

Inherent then in the pro-choice argument is the idea that life has no value save that which each person chooses to attach to it. It denies society any authority to make a collective judgment on such questions. Therefore, in this view, the law may not afford protection to life except at some arbitrarily defined (and inherently subjective) point.

This then conduces to an assertion of power over rights. Life is maintained not as its own end, but according to the will of the person who, effectively, controls it because they can. An ethic of convenience is established and it is a slippery slope on which to build a culture and a legal edifice.

Such a society will not value life that sees life as not an end, but as a means to some other end. Indeed, that is why at about the same time as the culture began to shift on the abortion question we also saw a rise in child abuse, spousal abuse, divorce, out of wedlock births and other social pathologies. These were not unrelated phenomena.

Aristotle said that the first questions of politics are, "How ought we to live? What kind of a people do we wish to be?" The implicit answer of those who support abortion on demand is, in effect, that it is nobody's business. Predictable results follow. One cannot expect the society to absent itself from collective moral judgments on the value of life and then expect an ethical social order to result.

[NorthwestRider]

So you are a poor ass cultural war warrior because you have no drive to get higher in life? People who whine about abortions clearly have nothing better to do or any goals in life

[nightdrot]

So you are inclined to substitute epithets for a reasoned argument. To refer back to Burke again, "The true principles of politics are those of morality enlarged."

As for having nothing better to do or no life goals, care to compare resumes? You go first, but let's just say that mine has included being called to a meeting with the Chief of Staff to the President of the United States and also being designated as a potential target of the terrorist Gulbuddin Hekmatyar.

Trust me pal, I have thought about and debated these issues with far more depth and seriousness than you ever have.

[libsaretards]

False. An abortion is literally the killing of a baby that CANNOT make a choice. It is only right and moral for others to stick up for the weak and helpless. If you saw a woman hanging a kid off a 5th floor balcony, would you just "mind your own business" or would you do something to intervene? The ONLY reason abortion is not classified as murder (even though it fits the very definition of murder) is because someone lobbied to allow it to happen. Just because it is ALLOWED by law does NOT make it right or any less painful for the innocent baby.

[NorthwestRider]

Lol you poor clueless cultural war warrior. Is it more important than your future goals?

[UCrayCray]

“.. even though it fits the very definition of murder..”
Except the unlawful part.

[Anonymous]

Abortion in Oklahoma is now totally banned

Docs face 10 years in prison & a $100,000 fine

Rapists face 5 years

When docs helping women face a harsher penalty than rapists, you know it was never about protecting women

It was ALWAYS about religious, misogynist, hateful control

[NorthwestRider]

But Roe vs Wade overrules state laws. Plus the stupid Republicans need to get over themselves