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Can you think of any laws that give the government the ability to make decisions about the male body? (Page 2)
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Ah yes, let me guess. Upset about the Supreme Court saying it’s a state’s choice on what they want to do with abortion and you’re looking for ways to somehow bring men down? Jesus I guess there’s no saving you lol
If they were giving states the ability to take away your autonomy… I’m sure you’d be upset too.
Go ahead, force circumcision idgaf
@Subarugirl have you thought about changing your gender? That card might come in handy during the most oppressive time in history…
Also what about the pro life women that are out there who are happy about this? Just fuck them and their opinion?
There is no law that forces genital mutilation hon
No one is forcing anyone to get an abortion…
I don’t understand… this is a good thing, reports show a lot of black babies are aborted… wouldn’t this be good for democrats? More potential voters to use and manipulate…
Don’t be so coy, you asked this question for a reason lol
So you would you be OK with being forced to sacrifice or donate a part of your body without consent?
Circumcision? Go ahead lol. I was a little boy when it happened so why should I care? As a matter of fact, any grown ass man that complains about that is simply pathetic. There’s murder, rape, and other pressing matters that need attended to and you’re going to complain about a piece of skin that was cut off that you didn’t find out till later? Must be nice to be that privileged lmao
I didn’t say anything about circumcision. Please refer back to my original point.
would you be OK with being forced to sacrifice or donate a part of your body without consent?
What do you want to take from
Me? My Johnson?
Why are you avoiding the question?
If you don’t wanna answer it just say so
Well what part of my body is being “sacrificed” or “donated”? You’re not really helping me out here lmao
Well?
Any of them, blood, kidney, brain, skin, heart, liver, potentially your life.
So you’re comparing taking out vital organs to a procedure such as abortion? Smart
Do you know the toll that pregnancy has on the body or are you just ignorant?
I wish it was a lot worse tbh
Maybe women should just not have sex anymore so they don’t get pregnant and go through such a hard time… make abortion mandatory
Also if it’s so painful why do it? And then complain about it afterwards? Wth is going on with this world? 🤦🏼♂️
Abortion is a choice and pregnancy cannot occur without sperm. So maybe we should just take the bullets out of the gun instead of wearing a bulletproof vest
Has your life ever been threatened by impregnating someone?
Fine with me 🤷🏼♂️ I think humanity needs a great purge anyways lol
So if you want to put a policy like they in place go ahead, I’ll support the bill
Great let me find a list of people who need bone marrow transplants, kidney transplants, liver transplants, heart transplants, and to be adopted… let me know when you have done any of the above
Why don’t you do it?
And those comparisons weren’t at all the same situation. Apples and organges sube girl
Take a moment, reign in your emotions back in, then go read up on the toll the pregnancy puts on the female body. Then come back to me once you’ve educated yourself
Again, you’re so “educated” and yet you would put yourself through that? It’s so painful and hurtful and men are just bastards and we have to take it out on them mentality. I think you’re the one that needs to go back and rethink your priorities.
Nothing else to say huh? Guess I was right
Take a moment to reign your emotions back in calm dow so that you can hold a logical conversation then we can continue
I’m not continuing the conversation here, if you want to talk you can message me
I’m glad that you were able to exercise some self control. That’s bud step in emotional intelligence
You just always have to get the last word in don’t you? You really know how to push buttons and get under people’s skin you know that? Lol
The Selective service comes to mind, only men have to do it. If they get drafted the military basically owns their body.
You mean they have to sign a piece of paper. The draft isn’t even a thing any more and hasn’t been since the early 70s, not to mention when they tried to pass a bill that would also include women in registering for selective service the conservative party shut it down
I think this situation is much more complicated than that. Yes, babies grow inside women bodies. But babies are their own person (debatable at which stage, I know), but making it even more complicated there’s a father that should have a say too.
So you think that people should be forced to sacrifice to sacrifice their bodies and heath against their will… I mean legally, body parts can’t even be taken from corpses without consent. Would you be comfortable donating part of your body, health or potentially your life for someone else with out your consent?
That’s clearly not what I said. And I’m aware this is very emotional for many women because of many other social issues, which I could sympathize with. However, this is an issue with several angles and parties, and can’t be solved with a blanket solution. Extreme case: women can abort whenever they want. If that happened, they could and some would abort babies in the 38th week. Obviously, that’d be beyond her rights as that’s an actual human being been killed. I know it’s an extreme example to support my point of it not being a situation where you can have a blanket solution.
No this is an about emotion this is about people being forced to sacrifice their bodies, their organs, their health, and their lives against their will. I’m asking you if you think that’s OK. So allow me to clarify.
Do you think that the government should have the power to be able to force people to sacrifice themselves against their will to save the life of another?
That’s actually a good question, and the straight answer is no, but again here a blanket solution doesn’t work. The role of the government is to set guardrails to ensure the best for society happens. And allowing a person “kill” another one at will without limitation is not the best for society, that’s allowing abortion at will. So women’s rights end when they affect those another human being, which I don’t know about you but to me an unborn 37-week old baby is a human being.
Selective service and court bias where the father is automatically the bad one. Though if you look outside of laws it's much harder live on your own as a man in general. There aren't any laws that encourage racism but BLM still exists. Government will always make many decisions for us women or man
They're on the table, now.
Vasectomies for every man! They're reversible, it's fine!
Or we just don’t have sex..
@DarkWinterNights sounds better than hours and hours of turtle and a life time of consequence
Mandatory draft into the military, you could technically say that the government is forcing you to put unwanted objects in your body, like lead or copper.
It isn't about them being men, their sex is entirely irrelevant. If men could get pregnant, I'm certain the government would try regulating it precisely the same way.
I seriously doubt that.
Why? You think government would think "women can't choose to abort but men can." I don't mean this rudely but like what is the logic behind that?
Several states still have laws on the books about homosexuality and sodomy. They are rarely enforced.
No because our body is incapable of creating human life. Men and women serve two different purposes
Stop comparing males to females to try and make some point.
In the US 5 men have been legally murdered by the state this year. No women have. The death penalty disproportionately effects men.
Fortunately I don’t live in a country where the state is allowed to murder it’s citizens
Good Question. Great Point little bit different circumstances. But it's a beautiful point
Can you define "man" anon?
Subaru girl... why focus on the draft answers when the body parts question is a far better example of how laws control a man's body?
Which ones?
Not just a man's body, but your own body as well. For example, The National Organ Transplant Act, which was passed in 1984, makes it illegal to sell or buy human organs and tissues in the United States. Selling organs and tissues is a crime and violators are subject to fines and imprisonment. That's a law restricting ALL people, male or female or whatever you want to designate. Not only can't you sell your body parts, but except for 10 counties in Nevada, you can't "sell or rent" your body for the purposes of sex anywhere in the USA either! LOL But I'm on your "side" anyway with this abortion issue, albeit for different reasons I think.
Specifically for men that don’t also apply to women? No but there are other things in the law that seem unfair to men like forcing them to pay child support for kids they never wanted.
No, as I’ve been talking about for the last 24 hours.
Anti abortion laws are- fundamentally…philosophically- the same as passing a law that requires males to donate organs to dying children.
The male body is constantly making more sperm. And sperm is just genetic material. You're not donating an organ at all. Embryos and fetuses are not children.
@Femphile_xoxo missed the point completely. It’s about bodily autonomy.
You went pretty quickly from "GET VACCINATED YOU SELFISH BIGOT!" to "my body my choice". Women are the epitome of contradiction and hypocrisy.
No one was being forced to get vaccinated. That was a personal choice
Nothing that is currently in action (as all the guys will scream about the military draft)
Well, I think the Post Office IS a government agency.
Mail body? What’s that? Oh you mean males? Yes. Selective service. So take the emotional outrage about RvWade somewhere else.
Not really other than crimes like indecent exposure.