Do you agree with the candy store analogy?

[Anonymous]

https://youtu.be/vshQ-v0cKRA

Whenever women say there's a double standard with how many women men can sleep with, this video explains why. The candy store analogy

[zeitgeist057]

Ok, kind of. But also not really. I don't buy that 10%-20% of men having sex with the women thing, at least not in the USA. Maybe in Egypt or someplace like that where sexuality is even more repressed than here. But my male friends I'm pretty sure more like 90% or more of them have sex regularly, and have had multiple sexual partners over the years. Even my buddy who didn't have that many girlfriends still had a girlfriend here and there through the years, and he's married now with his first baby.

I do agree it's more difficult for men to get laid than women and the whole bit about women can just say "who wants to have sex?" and get 90% of men to volunteer. They might complain that it's not the top quality man they are looking for, but seriously, how can you complain when you can get so many options and offers? I saw a post on reddit earlier a guy and his girlfriend made accounts, he had 2 likes (he said one was his girlfriend lol), and she had over a thousand, in under 24 hours. Obviously, one of those situations is better to be in than the other. So what if you have to delete and block some dick pics on the way to honing it down to your top 10, or top 100. I would gladly scroll through 1,000 options to narrow it down to a dozen or so.

But the whole "you have to be 35, rich, buff" is also BS. I was having plenty of sex at 17-35, actually MORE sex, with MORE variety of women when I was that age. After 35, I've slowed down a bit. I'm richer than I was then by a long shot (I was pretty much broke), and I wasn't very fit until probably around 23. I smoked cigarettes, drank and didn't work out much. This whole idea that women go for money and buff guys is only a half truth, and honestly, those aren't the best women to be hooking up with. They might be hotter on average, but they are also going to be more superficial on average.

It doesn't take near as much effort as the narrator says to "get in the candy store". But there is some truth to the idea that women take it for granted or are more selective. But it's a whole different game for them, it's not a candy store. That's a whole other conversation.

[Lliam]

LOL, Nonsense.

This only applies to shallow guys who want sex with fashion models and yacht girls, and to shallow girls who want status. Those kinds of men and women are artificial; materialistic. They get their values from TV and media.

Then there is the "real" world, in which average guys and gals with healthy values, ethics, self esteem, and normal hopes and dreams find partners. All a person has to do is stop worshiping the lifestyles of the rich and famous and look around at reality.

Instead of a candy store, this guy is talking about a Tiffany, Gucci, Prada, or Ferrari store. I would never shop at such a place. I like real girls, not plastic wannabes.

Fuck fashion models, yacht girls, rappers, movie stars and sports celebrities.

My advice is to stop watching TV and playing video games, get a job and learn to work hard, be responsible, develop a personality, like yourself and enjoy all that life has to offer instead of whining and acting like somebody owes you something.

I'll add that it's ironic that the guys who complain about young, sexually active women, are the same ones who call them sluts.

[Anonymous]

Word of advice : it'd be much easier to get into the candy store if the guys wanted to work there, that is find a decent romantic relationship, instead of just going there for shopping purposes.

And I assure you, women in a lot of cultures, despite the candy store allowance can't visit it because she's saving herself for the one guy who hit gym, made money, is over 35, went berserk among candies... And now he wants to settle. Awwwwwwwwwe.

[Asker]

But dont girls go there to try and pick up high value men?

[Opinion Owner]

High value candy here. They also want to commit to that candy, ftr, which guys don't.

[jennifer_bloom]

They say 10-20% of me are having sex which is not true since 50% of adult men are married, and many are not married but still having sex with their girlfriends and there are many ways to make money outside basketball and rapping and social media, Evan Spiegal founded snap chat and I would say less than 2% of millionaires are rappers or basketball players or gaming gurus on YouTube.

[Asker]

Okay men under 30. There fixed it

[Asker]

They should see how many virgin men are on only fans and the age range

[Telekinetic-Potato]

That guys a fucking weirdo. He panders to guys who can't get laid.

Is there an element of truth to what he's saying? For sure and maybe it's useful just to have a discussion.

But he makes it sound like the only way to have sex with a lot of women is to be rich, middle aged and a gym rat. Like what?

The best advice someone who's having trouble with women can get is stop blaming women, it's not going to get you anywhere.

Make them laugh so that they feel comfortable. Build a sense of familiarity, not necessarily by just getting to know her, but letting her get to know you by searching for opportunities to talk about what's happening in the moment.

Be observant, look comfortable in your own skin and just slightly mysterious (meaning don't wear your emotions out in the open too much)

Everyone needs to stop being dramatic, once you're older than 22 it gets so much easier.

[Asker]

I always tell other guys that although women have an easier time with dating and sex that men shouldn't complain about it and should just learn how to adapt

[MCheetah]

Yeah; it's a bit convoluted but yes, I agree. "Only about 10% of guys are having sex with all of the girls."

There is no "double standard." Here's a simpler analogy: Women can get sex (and affection) like getting a bottle of water, where as men can get sex (and societal value) like getting a bottle of Château Mouton Rothschild while working at Walmart.

$1,999.99, by the way.

By the best thing I've learned from red poll channels are: "Men built society. Men; you ARE the prize!" Don't EVER settle for anything less than that. (You know, most men, at least. Some guys do suck, though.)

[MCheetah]

*But the best thing I've learned from red *pill channels are

[Asker]

Why do you think so many other guys disagree?

[MCheetah]

I think they disagree with the convoluted analogy, but not the general premise that women have it easier in dating and sex.

[Kaamraj]

The analogy is roughly correct. In the early and mid 20s women have much more sexual mean value (SMV) than men simply because of their youth and beauty. It's also true that a minority of the guys are having majority of the sex and most of them have had to earn that top stop. And when a guy does earn it, he's going to take full advantage of it no doubt. It will be difficult for a woman to understand this as it's difficult for men to understand the female point of view. At times both are mutually adversarial.

[Anonymous]

No, I do not agree. Men are not required to wait to age 35, have $100K income and five years in the gym before they can become sexually active. What a stupid damned idea!

I got a late start, was definitely not the BMOC or stud, and still had 15 sexual partners by the time I was 35. I had not spent 5 years in the gym and definitely did not have $100K income.

This video just sounds like excuses for losers.

[Asker]

Let's agree to disagree

[Opinion Owner]

You REALLY think guys with an income under $100K never have sex with a girl? Hahaha! That would mean that most guys never have sex.

[Asker]

No. But i do agree that men need to work hard and build value to get laid

[Opinion Owner]

For many of my early partners, value was not measured by my bank account.

[Asker]

Congrats. You're a high value man

[MCheetah]

I know what 68 year old GAGer wrote this post... 🙄

It also doesn't work when you're 6'2", ex-military, upper middle class/successful, always been buff your whole life, and grew up pre-social media, trying to act like being short, not having a gym body, not being successful, and being single and male in the age of Tinder, OnlyFans, and Simp Culture means f*ck all and all it takes is "being a gentleman" of some antiquated nonsense.

It's even worse than when women try to tell men how to get women, despite them never actually been in a position to do this their entire lives, and failing spectacularly when they put all these ideas into action on dating sites while pretending to be men and get a brutal reality check that their idea of "what women want" bombs hard in reality.

It's why I'll never agree with you on this; you have NO CLUE what things are like, nowadays. Saying "Oh, I know this one neighbor and he's only 5'9 and he's married" means absolutely nothing to reality. Exceptions to any rule exist.

[Opinion Owner]

@MCheetah I am 5' 9", not buff, and no earning $100K per year.

[Anonymous]

I don't think it's a great analogy since it's not like guys and girls are in a store looking for a third thing (candy). The guys are looking for the girl and the girls are looking for the guys.

Dude's also missing a major point here--guys get laid in high school, they get laid in college, they get laid in their 20s, etc. It's not like it's nothing for dudes and then when they hit their mid 30s they're drowning in pussy.

Chicks compete in the dating market by being HOT. This guy seems to think they're all doing well just by being 18. Not true. HOT girls are. HOT girls are getting invited to rap parties, etc. Dudes compete in the dating market by being successful and having social skills. That's why rock stars and athletes get so much action.

[Apple1996]

Don't agree at all. Plenty of guys are having sex before 35. After that point men are old lol

[Asker]

If that's the case then how come male virginity rates are rising?

[exitseven]

@Apple1996 OWWW! that's smarts.

[MCheetah]

@Apple1996
Technically true, but still mostly wrong. Technically yeah, 10% of all the men out there is "plenty" or "a lot." I know you're gay and all, but picking up women as a male is WAAAAAY harder than doing it as a female. Hell, you just inspired me to ask a question right now.

[MCheetah]

@Apple1996
Who has a harder time getting women in modern society? ↗

[Apple1996]

@MCheetah uhh I'm not gay. I have a husband

[MCheetah]

@Apple1996
You outed yourself as being proudly queer several times on GAG.

[Still-alive]

im old :o

[Apple1996]

@MCheetah I'm bisexual that doesn't mean I'm gay

[Apple1996]

@Still-alive lol maybe a little but you are young at heart

[Still-alive]

good *smells your hair* ;)

[MCheetah]

@Apple1996
That's literally gay. You like, and would sleep with, people of the same gender. Incompatible with heterosexuality. But okay; I don't want to get into pointless semantics.

[exitseven]

No, this really has no basis in reality. Lots of guys have steady girlfriends in their 20s. Especially college students. They do not have to be rich or famous. I think it gets harder once you are out of your 20s.

[snackthatsmilesback]

[Asker]

Easy white knight. Im not attacking women for this

[snackthatsmilesback]

No worries mate I didn't think you were. Just seems bad to say men are inherently worthless, and the standard for worth is only measured by fucking. That's bull. Just cause 1 guy doesn't get laid until he's middle aged doesn't mean that young men are unfuckable. Or that out of shape or poor men are either. I know 80% of men are not virgins. You know how many people fuck in highschool alone? Men get action. Not all men but I would argue most.

[Asker]

There's stats to show that male virginity is rising. And they need to conduct a study showing the number of virgin men onlyfans and the age range

[Asker]

That are on*

[snackthatsmilesback]

What percent of men actually use only fans? And isn't all virginity rising? I'm sure there are problems, but the problem isn't that men are just worthless.

[Asker]

No women's virginity count is going down. Women have sex but only with a small percentage of men. This doesn't mean men are worthless. But they do have to build value

[snackthatsmilesback]

Mm no. What about before? When men's was lower and women's was higher? Did women used to have to build value and men just had it, and then they just switched? That doesn't make sense.

[Asker]

Men must create their value. Women must protect the value they're born with

[snackthatsmilesback]

What about before? When men's was lower and women's was higher? Did women used to have to build value and men just had it, and then they just switched? That doesn't make sense.

[Asker]

Women get a lot of things just for being women. Men have to work to achieve things. That's what im saying

[snackthatsmilesback]

... What about before? Women used to get a whole lot less and they had to fight a whole lot just to get close. Did they switch *inherent value* with men in the meantime? That doesn't make sense.

[Asker]

Were talking about modern times and the differences between the sexes here

[snackthatsmilesback]

You're saying those differences are inherent. Clearly they aren't because it hasn't always been that way.

[Asker]

Just because women were oppressed doesn't mean they didn't already have value

[snackthatsmilesback]

No of course not, just like some men not getting laid doesn't mean that men don't already have value.

[Asker]

Dating is a market wether people want to admit it or not. In that market are levels. Your high value men at the top and your low value men at the bottom

[snackthatsmilesback]

Everything is a market. Basing your value on how other people treat you is never a good idea. Humans aren't gold or paper, thry have value independent of what society decides they're worth.

[Anonymous]

depends on the guys cause
I could have had the candy store in my teens

I went in got some stuff
and did not like it the way I thought

I was looking for something else
and now that im older I realize

MOST WOMEN CANNOT GIVE ME WHAT I WANT
so they are just sex objects and prostitutes

they are not worth much
and I have said this before

men should just rape women

[AviatorTom]

It's an interesting analogy, not sure how true it is, though it does have some elements of truth.

[genericname85]

i disagree with one detail. women get into the candy story starting at 18. but they are banned from it as soon as they reach 40.

[genericname85]

meanwhile men are allowed to stay forever.

[Part2603]

I don't get it. Do these guys have a podcast?