“Tax the rich, feed the poor…til there are no rich no more.” Agree?

[OddBeMe]

One of my 70s song faves:

https://youtu.be/CTUsFm0BAu8

[Sixgunsound]

Bill Gates-Democrat.
Warren Buffet-Democrat
Jeff Bezos-Democrat
Hillary Clinton-Democrat
George Soros-Nazi (Democrat) If you still have such a hate-on for Elon Musk you could at least have the integrity or honesty to look at the damage done by the far larger number of evil billionaires on the left. The owner of the largest electric vehicle company on earth dares to give you your constitutional right to free speech back and he gets death threats? What an immature and unreasonable response. All that says to me is leftist ideas can’t stand up to scrutiny or challenge outside of echo chambers.

[OddBeMe]

Funny that their contributions (that we know of) are way more right wing…

[Sixgunsound]

Nobody said they are consistent or don’t realize that the right is better, but they registered Democrat

[OddBeMe]

I’m sure they all looove Bernie.

[WindAtMyBack]

I always loved this song and I've always been an Alvin Lee fan.
I saw them ~1977-78. They probably did this song but I don't remember for sure.

I have that album (Space in Time). I have a total of eight TYA and Alvin Lee albums.

RIP Alvin Lee

[Bratsondanielle]

I love it when people bring up this point to tax the rich people... we should let the big corporations pay their fair share of taxes

[OddBeMe]

Yes. We have so much corporate welfare in the US.

[Bratsondanielle]

I don't understand why everyone is always yelling to tax PEOPLE like why? Put 1% tax on the top line of the corporations and I 💯 💯 guarantee that you will have a better public economy. We will of course have to tax hunter Biden on his income from the Ukraine gas company where he's on the board without knowing any Ukrainian or anything about gas.

[notwoke]

where do you think the corporations get their money? From the products you and I buy. Corporations don't pay taxes, they collect them from you and give them to the government. It's a huge farce

[Bratsondanielle]

@notwoke uuuhu that's y all ceo dudes and dudettes are multi quadroubillionaires

[notwoke]

because they've been working hard and talking care of business for a long time, and they can command a high salary because there aren't too many like them. And by the way they pay a ton of taxes

[Bratsondanielle]

@notwoke mmhmm ok

[siseñor]

uneven economic distribution is a large factor in the corruption of once prosperous countries

[OddBeMe]

That is true. And that’s what America currently has.

[jshm2]

Don't be silly.

You can't tax anyone that much, and the poor need more than just money.

The main issue with capitalism is that corporate welfare and bailouts help the rich more than the poor. Despite the poor largely paying for them.

Think about it. You have one billionaire a few millionaires and a few millions wage slaves all contributing to the same tax plot. The billionaire gets tax breaks, corporate welfare, and debt free government grants and passes.

The millionaires get a fraction of that and the wage slaves get none of that. Who is in the better position in the end?

[notwoke]

Define corporate welfare? What's a debt free government grant? What's a pass?

[crossdressingrihno]

No I disagree. Most of those people earned their money and they did so with intelligence and with contributions to society. If you really want to solve the issue of innocent people being poor then give them opportunities to be not poor that is The simple solution that wouldn't fail versus all the other solutions which I can guarantee you will fail

[crossdressingrihno]

Improve the education system. Get politics out of the classroom. Get drugs out of the classroom. Get more security in schools and try to find ways to get students to pay more attention in class then all you need to do is make college more easily accessible for hard-working students then anyone who's actually worth pouring money in is going to have a high paying job or at least we'll be on the road to a high paying job

[exitseven]

It sounds good on paper but the so called War on Poverty has been around since the 60s and there are more poor people than ever. I think that these polices just encouraged more poor people.
It usually ends up the middle class pay for the party because the rich can hire tax attorneys and accountants to find tax loopholes.

[notwoke]

if you took 100% of all the rich peoples money it wouldn't make a dent in the funds needed to pay our government debt and fund everything needed so all of "the poor" could stay home all day making terrible decisions with their money and life choices

[exitseven]

@notwoke

[exitseven]

@notwoke Raising taxes on the rich only drives them elsewhere ask New Jersey how they did with the millionaire's tax. Everyone moved to Florida.

[CloudMassacre]

How about having mediumly rich people. Like a couple million a year. That’s plenty to live a comfortable luxurious life. These billionaires are a problem. When an average person in America makes like 2-3 million dollars across their whole life and people make that in less than a single day, I think that huge imbalance is a problem

[joeldalton]

Maybe get off the internet and invent something people want. Then you may become a billionaire.

[Anonymous]

So your answer to poverty is to take from one corrupt organization and give it to another organization (that may or may not be already working together anyway) and expect them to actually help?

The war on poverty has been in place for nearly 60 years and if it was in anyway effective, we would be seeing improvement but we don't. If anything it has gotten worse.

[OddBeMe]

And your answer to corrupt govt was Donand J Trump?

[Opinion Owner]

Answer my question.

[OddBeMe]

Firstly, I dont see government as corrupt. You seem focused on the elected officials when 99% of the work is done by agencies, some with low levels of fraud.

But a govt run by the people will always be my pick over a corporation governed by greed.

[Opinion Owner]

I will trust the government when they respect the bill of rights and not use it as toilet paper. There is no other intention to undermine them unless they plan to do heinous things to the people.

[OddBeMe]

You speak like the govt is one big monolith. Go to any street corner soapbox or website (like this one) and local cops won't come arrest you. If you keep it on your pants this time :)

[Opinion Owner]

Literally every time time the government was called upon to solve social issues like this, insane numbers of people die by their hand whether it was done by Nazi or communist regimes.

I, someone who does NOT want that to happen again, want to try a more grassroots solution like the civil rights movement and those seemed to have worked.

[OddBeMe]

Checking where all the current technology came from…. nope govt does work.

[Opinion Owner]

In your imagination they do. Even if all our current technology DID come from the government, that means jack shit on solving problems like discrimination or poverty. All government attempts to solve those issues have been a disaster.

[OddBeMe]

Did Lincoln solve slavery? He was the govt.

[Opinion Owner]

Technically yes but then the democrats made the KKK and basically continued the trend by bending the rules.

[Opinion Owner]

Also we were in the middle of one of America's bloodiest wars over slavery before Lincoln ended it. The KKK just found ways to tiptoe around the anti-slavery laws.

[OddBeMe]

Remember when the Democratic-Republicans were a party against the Whigs? No? Oh right party names mean shit.

[Opinion Owner]

The point is, most of the social issues we see involve government corruption on some level.

Some might even say that they don't want to solve these problems because doing so would ot allow them to provide the "cures" to create dependencies. "But without government, who would wipe your ass for you?"

[Stoner710]

I’m good with feeding the poor but the rich are important for a civilization to survive. So not don’t tax the rich out of existence

[OddBeMe]

Thats one way to look at it. The other way would be everyone getting rich.

[Shamalien]

Terribly stupid logic. Who collects the taxes? What stops them from becoming corrupt? Fking nothing, they inevitably become corrupt and the money goes to giant corporations who got these politicians elected

[Minxxie]

Millionaires are fine but the fact that billionaires exist means we've failed as a species.

[OddBeMe]

That was my point. I expected commie name calling. But perhaps not having billionaires would be a good objective.

[Minxxie]

There are always going to be people that have more than others but billionaires are like dragons sitting on their mountain of gold laughing at all of the suffering happening around them, it's pure evil.

[notwoke]

think how many thousands of millionaires Jeff Bezos created between his employees and all the Amazon sellers who can now produce goods and get them to market cheaply. Think of all the taxes those people pay so people can get food stamps and sit home watching Oprah all day. I guess the government should have been taxing him from the start and tamping that shit down.

[OddBeMe]

@notwoke I get you, but his investors aren’t former middle class. Billionaires don’t create millionaires.

[Minxxie]

Exactly, and Billionaires only get to be that wealthy because they've left a pile of dead bodies behind them. The working conditions for the bulk of Amazon employees are deplorable and they have to be for him to make such a big profit.

[notwoke]

I'm middle class and have made a lot on Amazon stock. I punch a clock. Many small business sell things on Amazon "out of their 2 car garage". I have former classmates that are well paid managers for an Amazon warehouse. This is why the USA has a higher standard of living than any socialist country

[OddBeMe]

@notwoke based on what metrics? Europe is full democratic socialism and theyre much happier and healthier.

[notwoke]

they have a lower standard of living, much higher unemployment and the infrastructure is in worse shape and more debt relatively, but OK

[OddBeMe]

@notwoke have you been there? Even their homeless are happier. Prob because crime is net zero

[notwoke]

I have been there many times, Valencia, Spain, Cormano, Italy, Milan, Italy, Many German cities. they have a lower standard of living and towns are dirty compared to the USA and most hotels and restaurants are in poor repair.

[OddBeMe]

@notwoke www.livescience.com/...ropeans-americans-keys.html

[notwoke]

Yeah, so? I want to work hard and that makes me happy, I agree. But I'm not interested in paying for you to sit home. You can pay your own way

[ibodi]

Just read a book which the writer whose thoughts reflect at that time I don't analyze it but respect your question.

[Waldoe]

if there were NO rich, then there would only be poor... Who would create jobs for the workers? Anyone that creates, becomes wealthy... if they are lucky... what is you Logic?

[OddBeMe]

Only in that perspective. What if everyone was rich?

[notwoke]

then inflation would be off the charts because we would be running out of things like vegetables because rich folks aren't going to go pick them. A much worse version of right now. this is jsut a little inflation caused by the government war on business and "free money" so people can stop going to work.

[OddBeMe]

@notwoke that sounds like our problems now.

[notwoke]

Yes, punish success so that no one bothers trying to prosper, that way the people who drive the economy can stop that shit. Tax all the businesses so they have to pay lower wages and cut back on employment. then we can all be equal

[humanearth]

How about tax everyone at the same rate and keep the government small

[OddBeMe]

Small govt unless you're pro guns and anti abortion?

[humanearth]

I don't give a shit if someone kills a baby or unborn. Less people on the earth the better

[OddBeMe]

With that attitude im glad you're not making decisions.

[humanearth]

You don't know if I'm a member of a independent political party.

[OddBeMe]

Everyone says they’re “independent” but vote 100% for either party.

[humanearth]

If you have to know I voted for
Jo Jorgensen last presidential election

[OddBeMe]

Hey 1.2%! You guys are on your way.

So does Jo want to win just to not do the job? Never really understood the pure libertarian…

[Chazmatazz269]

Well, it’s just not that simple. Is it? Would be nice if it was though!

[Gent207]

You trust the rich lawyers to tax themselves out of existence?
Lay off the weed my dude

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

#EatTheRich

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fRDPd0MiopM

[OddBeMe]

Just their babies

[888theGreat]

1) the rich pay for all the social programs now
2) Get rid of the rich and every one will be poor
3) You have your job is because someone else is rich

use some sense for once

[Anonymous]

So, remove all the incentive for our best and brightest to excel and generate value for society, and give the masses a strong incentive to not excel. Brilliant idea.

[Anonymous]

Plan of the liberals, it'll get to where 30k a year is rich and they start chopping off no dominant limbs and removing kidneys and livers to feed people

[IsoUser]

Given that, were not even Ought of COVID 19 Danger Thanks to Weaponized versions of CDC COVID 19 Its been released from threyre unexpectedly.

[Anonymous]

In an ideal world yes but realistically? Won’t happen

[jasco]

No that's stupid. ( American here ) My government just needs a better budging management system.

[QuietRunner]

Tax the rich, feed the poor…til there are no rich no more.” - the who do we tax?

[Creampiekarl420]

Lazy socialist 👎

[OddBeMe]

Is there any other kind?

[Creampiekarl420]

Yes the quiet kind that’s keeps their opinions and ideas to themselves and let us claw our way out of poverty Pursuit of happiness fall in love with the process life is a stride not a sprint💯👌

[OddBeMe]

You have an evil view of “socialism”

[Creampiekarl420]

Im a capitalist sir

[OddBeMe]

So is Europe. But theyre not cruel

[msc545]

Totally agree!

[Anonymous]

Extremely agreed.