Do you think the politics topic is remarkably quiet about today's hearing?

[goaded]

It was all about how Trump planned and executed the attack on the Capitol, how he lied about the election to get people there, and how everybody knew there was going to be violence.

No anonymous opinions. Duh.

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[Still-alive]

Don't forget that part where Trump intimidated a witness! that alone should put him in prison!

[goaded]

And the (Republican) SoS.

[Still-alive]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRGmHXJ5_o

[RolandCuthbert]

What are they supposed to say?

[goaded]

"It's a fair cop, gov"
But that would require honesty and a sense of honour.

[goaded]

What I expect is that they'll belittle it, like you know who.

[RolandCuthbert]

I don't know why they would say anything. Like think about the whole description of what Trump was trying to plan after he lost the election. The evidence lies in everything they testified too. The committee didn't even embellish on their testimony. They simply interviewed, Gudy, Sidney Powell, White House Counsel, etc.

And they played the interviews for the public.

[CrazyGirl2]

Nah, it may be quite, but there is nothing remotely remarkable about that! Americans are facing between $5 & $7 dollars per gallon for gasoline, parents are genuinely worried that their babies could possibly starve this summer, b/c of baby formula shortages caused by the Biden FDA shutting down Abbott Labs largest formula factory, and it’s STILL not fully open yet! The cost of food has gone through the roof, power bills have increased a LOT, and American’s are having to choose whether to buy food or pay rent (or other bills), rolling blackouts have already begun in Texas because they don’t have enough power generation capacity as reliance on wind has massively increased and surprise… during a heat wave there is not much wind. Americans have very real, and very frightening issues facing them almost daily! So no, I am not the least bit surprised that Americans don’t really care all that much about what the last guy did or did not do, they care about what the current occupant of The Whitehouse is doing/not doing!

[goaded]

Fuel prices are going back down again, and there's no reason why they were higher today than they were last time crude was the same price for five years (2009-2014, iirc), other that price gouging by the oil companies, with inflation (they're causing) as a cover.

Would you have preferred the baby formula factory had stayed open and poisoned babies? A bill passed the House of Representatives to ease and aid the baby formula shortage by sending more funds to the FDA was voted against by 192 Republicans.

Texas power grid is 100% due to the Texas government, it's disconnected from the rest of the country for precisely that reason! Are you saying Texas (of all places) is over-reliant on wind power?

www.macrotrends.net/.../crude-oil-price-history-chart

[Friendlybro79]

@goaded All valid and true points. These people that misdirect blame blindly trust what Republicans tell them without ever hearing the other side or using, I can't say common sense because it's definitely not common, but any kind of sense to ask... why would Biden want to starve babies, aren't oil companies allowed to make as much profit as they can, I mean this is the sole purpose of a corporation... etc

The problem is critical thinking and lack of understanding basic economics and that everything isn't a conspiracy theory on the left.

[CrazyGirl2]

@Friendlybro79 Wrong! I’m a liberal, from a family w/ both sides are all progressive liberals. I WAS a Democrat, I’m now registered independent. But I am FAR from being Republican, and still vote Democrat!
I don’t believe that “Biden wants to starve babies” That’s fucking absurd, and the kind of BS purity test that will loose us the house and senate in November! But I DO believe that government incompetence is responsible for the shortage! The FDA discovered bacterial contamination at Abbott on Sept 20th 2021, and ordered the recall and shutdown of the Abbott, Sturgis factory! On Nov, 19th 2021. Yet the then Whitehouse press secretary Jen Psaki issued the FIRST statement on the baby formula shortage on May 9th 2022! The Biden administration KNEW about the upcoming shortage EIGHT MONTHS before they ever said a word to the nation about it! If they’d worked with the other companies to increase production, and suspend the import restrictions, and began importing European formula back in Nov, 2021 instead of waiting 8 months to do anything… there may not have ever been a shortage! The problem with our side, and the reason we’ll loose in November, is precisely this! Unless someone agrees with you 100% of the time on ALL subjects, they get labeled as a Republicans, or fascists or NAZIs! The party has decided that the best way to get things done is to make enemies out of Dems who just disagree with the mainstream narrative! Splitting the party in two, and already a safe seat in Texas that’d been Democrat for 151 years, just flipped Republican! THAT is what worries me. I’m sick of BS purity tests, the Dems are enacting. In other words… “you’re a fascist if you don’t agree with everything we say”! Meanwhile, I’m just worried about babies going hungry! THAT makes me a fascist?
I thought WE were the ones who cared about feeding the poor and less fortunate… ESPECIALLY BABIES! Seriously, look at the source.
Source: www.cnn.com/.../index.html

[goaded]

Lost, Not Stolen
"The Conservative Case that Trump Lost
and Biden Won the 2020 Presidential Election"
https://lostnotstolen.org/

[goaded]

Sorry, wrong conversation!

I don't have a problem with pointing out flaws in the Democratic party, I do have a problem with using Republican lies to do it. Higher prices of oil didn't result in such high prices at the pump (a major driver of inflation) seven years ago.

Texas, run by Republicans, is entirely responsible for their own power problems. They chose to detatch themselves from the rest of the country so that the federal government couldn't force them to, say, weather-proof their systems. Why isn't there massive solar generation there, anyway?

[CrazyGirl2]

I don’t know if your last post was for me or not (given that you didn’t tag anyone, by simply doing this: @goaded ) However, I don’t need to read it as I ALREADY know that Trump lost the friggin’ election, and was ecstatic that he did loose! I don’t know how many times I need to tell you that I am a traditional Liberal, a progressive, and an ally to the LGBTQAAIP community. So if you STILL don’t believe me, then obviously you must be a troll and are just trolling me! I have no idea otherwise, why you would insist on continuously labeling me a conservative!

[goaded]

If it's not tagged, it's either to the Asker or Opinion Owner. Since I'm the Asker...

"I don’t need to read it"
Thanks. It didn't touch on the election at all. Nor did I call you Republican or conservative.

[CrazyGirl2]

Okay you win, I’m done! I am just too busy and have too full a life with friends who love and support me to be trolled about how I’m allegedly “a right-wing conservative” or “a fascist” or whatever it is you think I am, because I don’t trust the Democrat party anymore, now I’ve NEVER trusted the Republican Party, but that doesn’t really matter to you. Because unless I apparently buy into EVERYTHING that the Dems say, I’m your enemy… remember this as you are counting all the Democrat house seats lost in November, that they did it to themselves by trying their best to vilify anyone who doesn’t buy into the party line 100% it’s truly exhausting, and l’m just over it!

[goaded]

I didn't say any of those things.

[CrazyGirl2]

No, you didn’t use the exact words, but whenever I disagree with you, you accuse me of using “republican arguments”! And I’m sick of it! Every answer I have ever given you was my OWN opinion. Opinions I came to using critical thinking and logic… if I can find a source for additional information, I always include those sources. But I’m done! I’m sick and. Tired of the constant arguing. You ask a question, then proceed to commend people who agree with you (which is usually the mainstream media narrative), and deride anyone who disagrees with the mainstream media narrative you’ve adopted as your own. And as I said, I’m sick of it, I am at the point where I can tell exactly where you stand on any issue, because it’s whatever MSNBC reported the night before.

[goaded]

Clearly, I've upset you, and I'm sorry.

[CrazyGirl2]

Apologies are not necessary, thanks for it anyway, however I will no longer be answering any more of you political questions, or even your politically motivated, or any politically leaning questions. Take care.

[goaded]

Take care.

[Friendlybro79]

@CrazyGirl2 I was really responding to @goaded based on his reply not directly to what you said although when I read back what I wrote i can see how you thought I was calling you out specifically. My apologies. I actually understand and agree with some of the statements you said.

[BlacklightShade]

All the talk about Cassidy Hutchinson's "hearsay" and "lying" got real quiet after orange man's Whitehouse Attorney, validated everything she said. I'm looking to see where the delusionals move the goalpost now.

[goaded]

Exactly. And the point that Trump was surrounded by bad advisors ("the crazies") is no defense, since he's the one who chose to bring them in and (pretend to?) believe them and not his established, proper advisors.

[Chazmatazz269]

Every step of this process has been hearsay. Not one shred of evidence has been offered, and they’re rejecting all witnesses who might testify in opposition to the narrative.
Meanwhile, the entire lamestream media is doing their best to ignore Hunter’s shenanigans. Couldn’t shut up when Drumpf’s rugrat looked less than stellar though. Ell oh ell!
Anyone still glued to the lamestream media is an idiot or an asshole.

[goaded]

When the evidence is coming from high level Republicans, their lawyers, and communications between them, of course it's about what people said and what and when people knew. That does not make it hearsay.

Like, for example, when someone testifies under oath that they heard Eastman tell Trump that Eastman's plan would be illegal, it shows intent to break the law when they went ahead and did it anyway.

Even in October Trump planned to lie to you and claim victory in the election while votes were still being counted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNoUnxN_cs

[jimmy2]

It's against House Rulers how Democrats gets a Hollywood producer to show in primetime. It's funny the Democratic do thing's then lies and blames it all on trump. This whole thing has no teeth just Democrats trying to control the narrative to midterms

[goaded]

How many Americans would actually watch hundreds of hours of testimony? The only way to get people to pay attention is to extract the really important things those Republican witnesses are saying about what happened. None of it is lies, and Trump is certainly to blame.

Trump could have conceded in November 2020, as his sane advisors said he should, he could have said no to the ridiculous lawsuits that have got the lawyers who brought them struck off for malpractice, he could have said no to forging official documents, he could have left out the lines attacking Pence from his speech on the 6th, he could have not told the rioters to go to the Capitol, he could have told the rioters to stop.

It was all to steal the presidency, and it was all planned in advance.

[exitseven]

No most people see this sham hearing for what it really is, a last ditch effort to deny President Trump from running for reelection. Even the networks stopped running this sham during prime time because the ratings were so dismal.

[goaded]

Deluded.

[joeldalton]

Show me on the doll where Jan 6 hurt you

[goaded]

Tell me why democracy has no meaning for you.

[joeldalton]

DEMOCRACY IS OVER? OMG!

[goaded]

Not yet, but if Trump had succeeded, it would have been. But you're fine with letting that be a trial run. (We saw all this a century ago.)

[joeldalton]

NOT YET OMG! WHAT NOW?

[goaded]

Want to bet if Turley's reaction on Fox will make it to their YouTube channel?

Hitler failed to take over Germany once, he tried again and succeeded.

"It's very disturbing, at one point there was a suggestion that might be fisticuffs almost like Dr. Strangelove and the president is saying there's no fighting in the war room."

"Was just a bizarre moment, you're in the Oval Office and people seem to be actually chest pounding. So this is very disturbing. All of these details should disturb everyone," Turley said.

[joeldalton]

NOT TURLEY’S REACTION? ON FOX? OMG

[goaded]

Parscale: This is about Trump pushing for uncertainty in the country.

Parscale: A sitting president asking for civil war.

Parscale: This week I feel guilty for helping him win.

Pierson: You did what you felt right at the time and therefore it was right.

Parscale: Yeah, but a woman is dead

Pierson: You do realize this was going to happen

Parscale: Yeah, if I was Trump and i knew my rhetoric killed someone

Pierson: It wasn't the rhetoric

Parscale: Katrina, yes it was.

[joeldalton]

PIERSON! AND PARSCALE? OMG!

[goaded]

Yes, two people close to Trump, one admitting that Babitt's death was directly due to Trump's rhetoric, just as another witness testified that that was the reason he was there, and that Trump's "go home" message (hours too late) was what sent him home.

Parscale: This is about Trump pushing for uncertainty in the country.

Parscale: A sitting president asking for civil war.

Parscale: This week I feel guilty for helping him win.

Pierson: You did what you felt right at the time and therefore it was right.

Parscale: Yeah, but a woman is dead

Pierson: You do realize this was going to happen

Parscale: Yeah, if I was Trump and i knew my rhetoric killed someone

Pierson: It wasn't the rhetoric

Parscale: Katrina, yes it was.

[joeldalton]

PARSCALE AGAIN? OH NO!! NOT AGAIN!! This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!

[goaded]

That's cute, avoiding the facts. Show me on the doll where you were abused. I can't think of any other reason you'd be this obtuse.

[joeldalton]

LOOK OUT, JAN 6 is right behind you!

[goaded]

I know you don't give a shit about truth, but it's important. WWII important.

[joeldalton]

NOT WORLD WAR II IMPORTANT!!! Is Jan 6 worse than you Germans murdering 6,000,000 jews?

[goaded]

It will be, if you let it happen again. You seem quite content with the idea of 21% of the country being in control.

[joeldalton]

I’d better turn the tv on to these hearings! OMG they sound really bad.

[goaded]

You're really pathetic, you know that?

[joeldalton]

I’m really scared! I think Jan 6 might be inside my house right now.

[goaded]

Sad,

[joeldalton]

Scary!

[goaded]

You fascists are.

[joeldalton]

I guess being a German, you know what that’s like.

[goaded]

Show me that you don't know a thing about me without saying you don't know a thing about me.

On the other hand, I can recognise 1930's Germany when I see it in the US.

[joeldalton]

Those hearings really are scary, then! OMG

[goaded]

Yes. If you pay attention and don't try to avoid them. Why do you do that, do you think?

[joeldalton]

How can I be expected to re-live the scariest day in history? It was 9/11 x 10,000 multiplied by Pearl Harbor

[goaded]

Pearl Harbour couldn't have ended American democracy, nor could 9/11. Jan 6th could have. With your full support.

[joeldalton]

I hope you get the therapy you need to recover from your PTSD. You’ll never be able to look at buffalo horns again.

[msc545]

Maybe. Really don't much care.