What do you all think about Covid. Should we continue wearing a mask whether vaccinated or not?

[Changiis07]

[SecretsofKB]

Nurse here. I work in a large midwestern hospital's MICU. As of yesterday, my hospital had a total of 29 COVID patients, 5 of which are in my ICU. The others are distributed among ICU step-down units and other floor units.

Cases that require hospitalization are lower now. More people are vaccinated than before. But I am hearing of so many friends and friends of friends and family members getting COVID. They aren't being hospitalized though from what I am hearing.

I will always encourage people to get their vaccinations if they haven't already or keep up on their boosters. COVID is still more than capable of putting you in the hospital or worse. As for masks? I wore my mask whenever I was indoors up until the end of last year. I think you can wear them if it makes you feel more safe and comfortable or if you suspect you may be infected.

[Shamalien]

You will be held responsible for your crimes

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien What exactly do you mean by that?

[Shamalien]

Precisely what I said. It doesn’t matter that you think you are doing the right thing, you are scaring people into taking a substance that will permanently injure them. You may never admit what you’ve done to yourself, let alone anyone else, but that doesn’t change the truth. The truth that right now, the most vaccinated countries have the biggest uptick in excess mortality and drop in birthrates. And all these cardiac issues in young people, athletes dropping like flies, all these stupid news articles about how cardiac issues in young people are normal or because of solar flares, dogs, gardening, have you seen the shit in the news lately? Such a joke. Would be funny if the punchline wasn’t death of the innocent

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien Ummmm... My entire career is providing healthcare to seriously ill individuals. We have regular meetings in my unit to discuss treatments for specific issues. We have not heard anything about any of what you said. The COVID vaccinations are not harmful...

I'm sorry that you believe otherwise.

[Shamalien]

Your career is doing what you are told and not questioning it. You are responsible for your actions whether you understand them or not. The evidence that covid shots are harmful is already so overwhelming, only someone who doesn’t want to know wouldn’t know.

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien You have no idea what nurses actually do do you? In some settings, nurses may do that, but I have a lot more responsibility and sway with the physicians than you think in my setting. And we are taught to question physician orders in case they are unsafe and to understand the reason for that order and treatment.

Nice try though.

[Shamalien]

Taught to question? Yet you don’t question the vaccine at all! REALLY? Have you taken a moment to listen to the 10s of thousands of doctors world wide speaking out about the dangers of this vaccine or all they all quacks to you?

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien 10s of thousands of doctors? Okay... sure bud. And yes, I did question the vaccine, but there have been no studies showing any dangers of receiving the vaccine.

[Shamalien]

“Okay, sure bud”

That about sums up how willing you are to listen to an opinion other than your own. Take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself some tough questions

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien I think you need to look in the mirror before you continue to push your theories upon other people without even a hint of listening to something other than yourself.

[Shamalien]

Oh just flip it around anytime someone points the finger at you, that’s a great way to self examine eh? I worked in the most liberal hospital in the western hemisphere when covid hit, I’ve heard all sides of this argument, ALL SIDES, where as you have only heard one. Why did phizer try to hide it’s clinical trial data for 75 years? Did you read what was released when a higher court in America forced this corrupt corporation’s hand?

NOPE, because you just “know” better, ya?

[Shamalien]

I have heard from many nurses on both sides of the argument. The ones arguing the vaccine is dangerous had real evidence to support their claims and overall just seemed to be more intelligent and skeptical individuals. The ones arguing it was safe had no proof it was safe.

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien I'm just flipping it when you are being extremely accusatory. Be civil and I won't need to flip it.

I don't know better. It is what I have seen and what I have read. If I didn't understand that the vaccines are safe, I would not encourage those to get them. If I didn't think they were effective, I wouldn't encourage anyone to get them.

If reproducible evidence is provided to me that I am wrong, I will gladly admit it and change my ways. I have a feeling that you cannot say the same.

[SecretsofKB]

I just want to say that I have seen absolutely no proof that the COVID vaccine is unsafe. For those of you reading this thread, the other user here seems to be a fan of conspiracy theories. I would highly suggest doing your own research and understanding that his viewpoint is biased.

[Shamalien]

I don't know wtf they are teaching you these days, but here’s a thought: I don’t have to prove it’s unsafe, YOU HAVE TO PROVE IT IS SAFE, that is how medicine is supposed to work!!! FOR REALLY OBVIOUS REASONS!!!

Ignore everything I mentioned about phizer and the hidden trial data, don’t read it, it will hurt your brain

[Changiis07]

@Shamalien @SecretsofKB to each their own. I feel like whoever decides to get it can. I personally choose to wear my mask at work still because I don't intend to get the vaccine but want to continue being cautious as I have people coming near me. I feel like the vaccine has helped yes but we don't know if it may have any long term effects or anything since it came out so fast. Like I said I choose not to get vaccinated. I have heard though that certain people who have gotten have gotten worse in other areas. Overall it's a personal choice but I appreciate everyone's input on this.

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien Who is Phizer? Or do you mean Pfizer? It isn't nitpicking, but it doesn't add to your trustworthiness.

I am going to end this conversation here. You won't budge and I will not budge. Let's just leave it at this.

[Shamalien]

Ignore the content of my argument and nitpick my spelling. Wow. As if that invalidates my argument, I’m on an iphone mini, spelling is not my concern when you know damn well what I mean.

Absolute joke I pray your victims wise up fast

[Shamalien]

Here is the difference between us: I give both sides of the argument an equal chance. I’ve had in depth conversations with those on both sides. I read msm and medical publications as well as whistleblowing docs and nurses calling out the danger of these shots. Why won’t you read the pfizer clinical trial data they tried to hide for 75 years? Why would they hide it for 75 years? Ever hear of a vaxx being approved this fast before?

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien I gave your point of view a chance a very long time ago when it was brought up by someone that isn't you. I realized then that there was no data to support any suggestion that it was unsafe and the same rings true now.

I have no idea giving opinions a chance. I just have decided that I am not going to give YOURS a chance. I remember you from my MyTake and I have consistently seen you on here being rude with your point of view on any number of subjects.

[Shamalien]

Character assassination now? READ THE DOCS PFIZER TRIED TO HIDE FOR 75 YEARS THEN TALK

[SecretsofKB]

@Shamalien Hahaha. Okay. I'll read them.

But I will always stand by my assessment of your character. You've been rude to me since our first interaction.

[Shamalien]

Think of me whatever you like, just read the docs. I’d be mighty curious if a company tried to hide important data about the safety and efficacy of their products for 75 years.

[MzAsh]

I don’t think it should be pushed aggressively anymore. We’ve been at this and trying for long enough. We’ve gotten all the effort we’re ever going to get out of most people. It’s time concede to the idea that it’s bigger than us and that it’s likely just here to stay.

[Changiis07]

it will stay her for a long time, just have to keep taking precaution for it

[NatalieKeller95]

ok so then eventually they can declare the global pandemic part over right?

[Anonymous]

While there’s no doubt the virus is real, I believe someone did this on purpose. Never have I seen a vaccine pushed so hard. Why? Because they’re concerned about our health? If that’s the case give free insulin, free hypertension medication, chemo, etc. Why not give people who really need help money instead of sending it to Ukraine. Eventually something else will come up again. To my knowledge from reading your antibodies from these so-called vaccines only last 3-4 months, after that your basically back to being non vaccinated. I don’t think we should be wearing mask. Honestly they’re probably more dangerous for our health especially if you work in the medical field wearing these mask for 8-16 hours a day.

[NamerOfStars]

How much time do you NEED? You'll get Covid, you'll briefly be sick, you'll almost certainly recover just fine. That much was always inevitable. The whole POINT of all the delaying tactics was to keep the rate of spread low enough that the hospital system wouldn't be overwhelmed. And it wasn't; the disease turned out to be MUCH less dangerous than initially feared. All of those emergency-assembled structures and expanded hospital zones are gone; most without seeing more than a handful of patients, if any.

What do you hope to DO by delaying infection, besides crippling the capacities of newborn babies and infuriating deaf and autistic people?

[menina]

I live in a country where masks are no longer mandatory in some places but I think we should keep wearing them. The virus is still out there and it doesn't care if we're vaccinated or not. Besides vaccines are not 100% effective so no one is free from getting sick.
Of course if Covid is here to stay like other diseases we will come to point where we will no longer need to wear them. Hopefully it will become a mild virus that doesn't kill. But I don't think that we already got to this point. In my opinion it's too soon to take them off.

[BuLLdogLover03]

I had to get my vaccine due to medical problems with my mother but I will refuse to wear a mask

[Changiis07]

Yeah it is really hot here to be wearing one

[BuLLdogLover03]

Yesss

[Guy13]

I have not worn a mask for at least 6 months.

[Guy13]

Why do you think people are still doing that? Monday I saw one in their car wearing a mask. Why 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Changiis07]

I wear mine to work still and because I haven't been vaccinated plus I'm in my 30's

[Guy13]

Oh, I see. I have worn them on the plane and in Asia. I mostly work from home but was traveling during heights of COVID. A room in a vacation tropical country was a USD $2.00 a night not even 6 months ago…. It has been a crazy time and hopefully we are finished with this kind of thing…

[Changiis07]

Yeah I mean it's not gone and I have been hearing a lot of people vaccinated or not are still getting it or going to the hospital. So better to be safe than sorry

[Guy13]

Got you 👍👍. Be safe.

[John_Doesnt]

The majority of people who are still not vaccinated are old people that have been brainwashed by conservative media. And those people are also the most vulnerable to getting killed by Covid. I know some people will say "They deserve it". But those old people are usually somebody's grandma/grandpa and they don't want them to die.

[Changiis07]

I'm 33 and not vaccinated. I don't feel brainwashed. I do agree older people and ones with health issues should get it

[John_Doesnt]

If you're not vaccinated then you're part of the problem. Get the vaccine you brainwashed conservative nut!

[NatalieKeller95]

yeah the new wave is much more sneakier and is slipping in way too easily, this virus just keeps improvising, we'll never have a total victory over it, maybe an armistice, the end of the pandemic whenever that comes, will be an ending without an ending,

[Fireguy17]

No, it will never go away, and wearing a mask unless done properly, which virtually no one does, really don't make much of a difference.
Neither does getting vaxed or vaxed and boosted.
Our EMS call are running 50/50 between non vaxed vs vaxed/vaxed and boosted with people getting the vid.

[joeldalton]

Wait, people are still considering getting theses shots? Now? Jeez.

[Changiis07]

I haven't been vaccinated and don't plan to. Just curious on everyone's thoughts

[animesenpai]

Do whatever you want maybe the virus can do some of Charles Darwin's good work

[Changiis07]

Just curious on everyone's thoughts

[joeldalton]

Imagine being 2 years into this and still thinking this way, lol. Your dedication to the con is admirable.

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

No, I almost never wore it because as a public official, my face must be always visible. However my collaborators have to wear them due to regulations.

[Changiis07]

oh yes, plus if it's not enforced it's good. I mean with the heat we are having here it's even hotter wearing one

[FunkyMonkee]

No, masks never did anything! In fact, more mask wearers died than non-mask wearers. Besides, what's to keep it from getting into your eyes?

And, there's a;ready a number of cures for it so, it's no longer anything to worry about.

[ArtemisSilver]

You should probably wear them in high traffic indoor public areas like mass transit or hospitals, the mall etc.

Honestly though it should be left up to individual discretion unless the hospitals are overflowing.

[Levin]

I strongly believe wearing masks and getting the jab is bad for your health, so I don't think so.

[Changiis07]

what is jab?

[goaded]

Vaccination, the needle gets jabbed into your arm.

His belief is wrong.

[Alcoholic_Wannabe]

Nope.

This joke has gone on LONG past the point of being funny.

[Sixgunsound]

I think the globalists gave it a good try, but in the end they lost, so it’s time for them to shut up build themselves a bridge and get over it..

[Bratsondanielle]

Covid? The sickness of 2020? I don't think there's any need for the masks now. ESPN since they have been proven to not work.

[Shamalien]

Encouraging masking and vaccination is encouraging people to self harm, often to the point of PERMANENT DAMAGE.

anyone encouraging these things, you will pay

[Changiis07]

I mean people have different opinions. They encourage because they don't want people to get hit so hard with it, and it makes sense. Others like myself don't want to get a vaccine for it

[Shamalien]

Idgaf why people do what they do, only that they do it. When your actions and NEGLIGENCE cause harm, YOU bear the burden

[BeMuse]

You never should have worn a mask, and you definitely shouldn't have been a subject in the COVID mRNA vaccine experiment.

[BCRanger10]

Not vaccinated, not wearing a mask.

[Changiis07]

Not vaccinated either but wearing it mostly at work

[ChrisMike1919]

No vaccines, no mask.

[Changiis07]

okay no nothing lol

[MannyFrs]

Do you keep taking Benadryl after your cold goes away? NO! there's your answer

some people do yes trying to get a fix ok ok i mean BESIDES those mofos

[HighValue]

No need for an ineffective mask or a poisonous vaccine.

[MikeInHawaii]

Sweden did almost nothing, is in a northern climate where it spreads better, and had lower COVID-1984 numbers than one third of the nations on Earth.

[goaded]

Sweden: 1,869 deaths per million
Norway: 620
Denmark: 1,119
Finland: 889

[888theGreat]

only a brain dead fool would believe a mask would keep you from getting covid. The same fools that would panic with less than 1% died from it. grow a pair

[Jamie05rhs]

Excellent question.
I am flexible on the matter. If the community feels that it is best to mask up, then I will mask up.

[bolverk]

It is one of those viruses that we'll have to learn to live with just like the Flu.

[NatalieKeller95]

ok but then they won't keep calling it a pandemic at a certain point right?

[bolverk]

@NatalieKeller95 The 'powers that be' will use it as justification as long as they can to enable them to push through the policies they want.

[LztutuIsCute]

Yes, we definitely should. COVID cases are still surging, everywhere. In most places, it is not required to wear a mask.

[Staximus]

I think they will have another virus when they need to sell more vaccines

[In_Trance]

whatever works for ya

[Changiis07]

yeahh

[Anonymous]

I’m done masks unless it’s required to get some where.

[Changiis07]

yeah true

[Anonymous]

Only sheeps get waxed and wear masks.

[Changiis07]

I still wear mine to work, I haven't been vaccinated and don't plan to

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah dont get the vax

[Changiis07]

I don't want to, I feel like I shouldn't. It may affect everyone in the long run

[Anonymous]

masks are not necessary anymore

[Anonymous]

Oh Christ i hope not. I am so over covid.

[Changiis07]

same here

[EnglishEuropean]

I'm vaccinated, not wearing a mask.

[Anonymous]

I'll pull out the N99 in crowded situations

[jimmy2]

It's not over yet

[John196854]

I won't wear a mask