Basically companies like Facebook and Google and Amazon would not be allowed to sell your personal information to third-party customers to advertise to you. I don’t think company should be allowed to do this I think it should be illegal your thoughts
2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Well first of all I have to say they aren't very good at it. Or more correctly those using google advertising aren't
I bought a balcony table and then for quite some time later I got adds for balcony tables including from the supplier I bought from. Idiots. How many balcony tables do they think I'll buy. I took some pleasure in that they were wasting their google advertising dollar and punishing themselves for their own stupidity.
Second point is that it can be helpful and reduce my effort. eg I was interested in a balcony awning and immediately I got ads targeted at that. Didn't have to do as much googling.
Thirdly I have to acknowledge that we get a lot of free stuff because of the advertising revenue. Webmail, cloud storage that we would otherwise have to pay subscriptions. I particularly like a lot of youtube content and never watch free to air TV.
Finally as I like to say, in these days of Business Intelligence we need Consumer Counter Intelligence. It is a bit away from your topic but related.
OK girlfriend crashed her car and of course insurance went up with the brand new car. Eventually I offered to help her find cheaper insurance and used web sites of the premium companies. Oh boy did I find out a lot!
Initially I couldn't figure out how they wanted me to enter the apartment number and picked one of twenty in a drop down box. Then I did figure it out and was surprised the premium went up by $300 dollars! Retried for nearby apartments and yes at my apartment specifically and the premium was cheaper at every other apartment by $300 dollars.
My suspicious mind was triggered and during a call to the company it was admitted that my address was on the bad risk address database because there was a write off associated with it. And yes if you move into a new address you could end up paying for some one else accident because you are at a bad risk address.
So I spent the weekend getting online quote after online quote. The sister brand of the previous company wasn't sharing bad risk addresses so that took of the $300 accident penalty. But I didn't stop there. Adding her parents as nominated drivers took off another $100 dollars (because they were older safer risks). Found a few other factors to fiddle with.
Then I called the company because chatting up sales girls, 'Oh you have a lovely voice', saves you money. That's because they have a discretionary discount they can give to charming guys to get the sale. Another $150 reduction.
The next year the sister company was sharing bad risk addresses so the price went back up and parents weren't worth anything any more but there were other things that worked and managed to get it a bit lower nonetheless.
So I tend to think if I am doing Consumer Counter Intelligence then it is only fair for them to do Data Mining and Business Intelligence. In fact it is essential that they do because what I am looking for is a company that is smart in a way that benefits me or dumb in a way that benefits me. And sometimes it take being smart to be dumb.
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That’s fair I still don’t want them selling my personal data to third-party advertising without my permission and yet they do so there’s not even a hey if you use this website we’re going to be selling your personal data notice. I’d rather pay for a subscription for Google then have them so my personal data without my permission
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+1 yI wish they would make it illegal. The business of companies like Google and FB are all about violating people's rights. I'd like to see both of them completely shut down. They shouldn't be allowed to collect it in the first place, let alone sell it.
The EU tried to curtail it, but from what I've heard it doesn't do much good.
Then there are companies like Avast who have inside and very detailed info about you. They've been busted multiple times for violating people's rights. They have been busted selling literally every click you make online, including the exact timestamp. They claim it doesn't contain identifying info, but it does - the time stamp is identifying when compared to other data.
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1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Absolutely, it should not be legal.
Unfortunately all of these 'free' services we use are not free. We are the product. And that is a high price to pay, in the end.
But I would support any legislation that made this unlawful. Big tech is way too big.
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I get that but I still don’t think it should be legal for them to data mine, I just won’t use google of I had to pay for it, I’m actually more in favor of a subscription based model in order to use Google Facebook and Twitter then them taking my information as selling it to private users in order to make a profit
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Right. Let the users who really want these things pay for them.
I only pay for youtube, as there were some tech things, and changes, they made, that were driving me nuts. I finally caved. But I don't subscribe to anything else, because they're not important to me.
I like GAG, and IMDB. That's about all I really need (besides a search engine. But DuckDuckGo is good on mobile. Wish it existed on desktop.)
Do you trust Apple? They tout their more stringent privacy policies.
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+1 yIf you don’t want your data mined then don’t agree to it
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Lol there certainly is
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That took me all of 30 seconds to find
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You don’t use it…..
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+1 yMaking data mining illegal is a complex and multifaceted proposition that raises numerous ethical, legal, and practical questions. While there are valid concerns about data privacy and the potential misuse of personal information, an outright ban on data mining would have significant implications for businesses, research, and technological advancement. Instead of an outright ban, it is more productive to advocate for soulutions that strike a balance between protecting individual privacy and fostering innovation.
Data mining, when used responsibly, can have many positive impacts. It plays a crucial role in various industries, from healthcare and finance to marketing and scientific research. By collecting and analyzing data, organizations can improve their services, make informed decisions, and drive efficiency. Banning data mining could stifle innovation, hinder scientific progress, and limit economic growth.
The soulilution to this dilemma is to establish and enforce robust data protection regulations and privacy laws. These regulations should prioritize the rights of individuals to control their personal data while allowing responsible data mining practices to continue. Such regulations can include requirements for informed consent, data anonymization, transparency, and the right to be forgotten.
Ultimately, a complete ban on data mining may not be the most soulful solution. Instead, we should strive to strike a balance between individual privacy and the potential benefits of responsible data mining through thoughtful regulation, ethical practices, and informed decision-making. This approach would ensure that data mining continues to drive progress while respecting the rights and privacy of individuals.
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00 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. That don't make sense why would something be illegal that you willingly consent to? If you don't want that to happen don't use such things that get you to accept all cause when you do that's you actively saying your okay with it, longs if it allows you to use that thing.
03 Reply3.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They already have it. And buy cellular data... They have been spying since 75 with the IBM super computers. Just now, it is a Business. The same privacy violation has been there since Radio Shack computers... And all the Nationalized Apps-China has one Russia has one They got your data too.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yThere's a price to be paid with having things convenient. Used to be... a man had to go to the store to buy himself a pitcher of milk. Hyeah, but men got lazy. They wanted that milk delivered right to the door. Only problem was, the guy deliverin' that milk end sup fuckin' your wife. Sure, you had your nice cold milk delivered right to your doorstep, but your wife was gettin' pounded out like a mallard duck. And now you got your Amazon. And the milkman's come back. And none of ya are safe
00 ReplyLawmakers, in my opinion, have zero business passing laws related to the use of technology. If you want a better government, then hire engineers to represent you, not a bunch of bozos making laws about things they don't understand.
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Look at the way government uses engineers. What society is saying is that it's ok to have representatives who direct the building of autonomous machines that drop bombs on your neighbors, and then spend the rest of their time making restrictions on technology. It's ludicrous. In this day and age, engineers could build a much better society than these idiots.
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American society least for the most part, this is kind of a bi partisan issue why do you think we have apps like expressVPN or Nord VPN it’s to prevent engineers making there money by selling our private data. Why is it that I look up a fantasy novel on audible and then get bombarded with League of legends ads or W. O. W adds or raid showdown legends adds. Why can’t I look up a magic the gathering card without getting bombarded with adds on Wikipedia to by a grave titan. That is data mining that should be illegal, they are selling my private information to 3rd party sources. If we applied the 4th amendment to businesses they would be in violation of the constitution
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Technological advances have always been light years ahead of lawmakers. It's frankly boring and predictable. Instead of them sitting around with their thumbs up their asses reacting to the next advancement, or how to protect your precious privacy, they need to be thinking about how to engineer a better society using autonomous machines.
6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Well, it's communism for the state to control private companies like that. Of course I'm all for it, but am a little surprised you are.
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Somewhat true I don’t think it’s necessary communist but it is a little authoritarian. But government does have the right to regulate Commerce. That is written in the constitution. I don’t think the government or a private company should be allowed to sell peoples private information
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Men winning sports metals is important as well. But yea personally I would make sure all Americans businesses were subject to the constitution as much as the feds are suppose to honor the constitution. Remember a few years ago I make the argument then tech companies should be forced to abide by the 1st amendment.
If person A is allowed to speak nazi/communist/ Buddhist/ Christian or pretty much all types of propaganda on there phone or in the public square they should be allowed to do the same with of google Facebook and Twitter YouTube etc. I want more speech instead of limited speech - +1 y
It isn't at all important. Or, more precisely, it isn't the job of politicians to sort that out. Some unelected international board of whatever makes that decision. It is not - that is NOT - a political topic in any way, shape, or form. And yet. Probably a million of you people will vote Republican because you think it's more important than private companies selling your data.
As for forcing companies to use their platform to deliver scams to people, that's just something scammers have scammed you into wanting, since on one else will listen to them (because they are scammers). - +1 y
That definitely hasn't happened in any state. The far right fake news says it does but that's just because they know if you were to focus on the real life issues you would vote overwhelmingly for democrats.
But how do you learn not to without getting scammed first? Or what do you do when the scam is funded by billions of dollars invested in far right think tanks to make the scam look like legitimate political opinion when really it's just a bunch of distraction to keep people from realizing they agree with the left on all issues of actual substance? You could say "just don't click on it" but, like, clearly that didn't help you at all, and it has no chance of doing so 😕 - +1 y
Why don’t we just call left and right both scams at this point. Democrats use to be Anti-pig pharma a for example and now there trying to sacrifice there kids to be reliant on big pharma all there lives with this trans thing. https://youtu.be/xB4XyJLyY7s
Now it’s because of issues like these, the idea that you don’t have a right to be involved in their children’s education the price at the pump and the store, Republicans are going to have a red tsunami on there hands we might get enough to impeach and remove joe Biden from office. Hopefully they do - +1 y
Why would I call the left a scam just because the far right fake news scammed its addicts into calling the left a scam? That would be stupid unless I, too, aspired to be a screenrage addict.
And we've went, without a hint of irony or concession, from the topic you pretended to care about to ypu fully admitting your grievance bullshit that has nothing to do with politics is why you hope republicans win... - +1 y
The democrats party is selling worthless form of energy. Green energy is a scam
They want to transition your children and make boys girls and girls boys then they paying big pharmaceutical for the rest of there lives because the human body doesn’t know how to deal with men getting the penis cut off it causes constant infection and shortens life and there paying big pharmaceutical for there medical treatments all there lives.
There pushing the destruction of the nuclear family forcing single mothers to be reliant on the government.
Government in general is a scam and needs to be taken down - +1 y
Green energy isn't a scam. The far right fake news just says it is because they know no one would choose dirty combustibles if they had an honest choice. The left also doesn't want to transition your children. The far right fake news just brainwashed its viewers with that misinformation because they know no one will ever vote for a Republican based on merit.
A government is ultimately just any arrangement for how we live with each other and thus will never be "taken down" as long as we aren't all living alone. The far right fake news just wants you to want some increeeeedibly naive wish for "anarchy" so that you don't mind republicans not doing the job you pay them to do when they are the government.
12.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. You're not the brightest, it seems.
Selling data has been big business since the 50's before Internet was even a thing. How do you think market segmentation, and ad revenue work?
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+1 yThen they would just do it in secret and there would be no government oversight. You would never stop them from mining your personal data. It's better to just regulate it. Also, if you don't like it then don't give away your personal data.
00 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. You can't do that because in essence you would make internet illegal. Because you can't really define data mining as something only trackers do.
00 ReplyI don't like that idea. We would have to incur the cost of using the services then.
00 Reply3.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The opposite of control is not chaos.
More laws don't make fewer criminals07 Reply- +1 y
Your personal info is online when ever your order from Amazon or use YouTube or Facebook they get your personal information just by being online regardless if you put a credit card into a website or not to track your IP address then sell that information to 3rd parties you can’t even look for a job online without them selling your personal data
+1 yYou would have to use those platforms by subscription or donation. Internet would be lacking a major profit driven motive to itself.
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