What do you think can be done to improve men & women relations in society?

[Anonymous]

[Sun_Kim-Ai]

I think that people should stop making it a "man versus woman" thing and make an effort to listen to each other, compromise a bit and understand that both have their fair points; and while they are different both biologically and in thinking, in the end they just the different sides of the same coin, the human race.

Men cannot live without women and women cannot live without men; no matter how much they claim the contrary - so why not focus on reinforcing their similarities, while at the same time appreciating the differences between each other? It's futile and counterproductive to continue to bash on each other, and it's something that it's not feasible in the long run - continuing to fight and expanding the divide between the genders will only set the whole of humanity back by centuries and bite back hard everyone - we live in an historical moment were the hysteria that everyone who's not like us is making us distrustful towards everyone and turning men against women, parents against children, sibling against sibling; just because they don't think like us, and I find it both disheartening and scary.

If only a little effort could be taken from all sides, to try and find a common ground, because right now we are just headed towards collapse and destruction, each just caring to drag the other side with it.

But again, what do I care - this answer and the words I put in it are essentially wasted on here and other places, and I've got better things to do and think about than this.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

We have cars, basically limitless opportunities, internet, food that's been genetically modified to not look disgusting.

But we spend our time complaining about the dumbest things and becoming more and more entitled every day. Men and women. Nobody feels a sense of responsibility or duty to be or do anything and most people I think on some level understand this.

Women have problems for sure but so do men and until everybody takes responsibility for themselves, society is never going to be on the right track and be free at the same time.

Y'all need to do some shrooms or something

[Missgingles]

Women need to realize that we can do wrong and we have a lot of privliges. We need to learn to start looking at evidence and remove any form of emotions from it.

Men need to learn that they are much more privliged biologically speaking and that it can be used as a privlige out in the world too. Knowing we are different is good. If we keep pretending we are the same it won't GP anywhere. Its like a white person painting themself black to act like there is only one race.

[Missgingles]

*go anywhere

[RandomGuy1030]

In other words you need jesus

[Missgingles]

@RandomGuy1030 nah am good. But I respect your religion:)

[RandomGuy1030]

"We can do wrong" thats an insanely basic acknowledgement

[RandomGuy1030]

I dont give a shit what you respect

[FilmGuy93]

@RandomGuy1030 her point is that it is an insanely basic statement, but it’s still one that women need to acknowledge because their refusal to acknowledge it now is causing huge problems

[Missgingles]

@FilmGuy93 thankyou for explaining!:)

[Agagagagaga]

Please explain to me how I’m “privileged biologically.”

[FilmGuy93]

@Agagagagaga You're physically stronger, you don't have the risk of getting pregnant.

[grega239]

Is it a privilages if its biological?

[FilmGuy93]

@grega239 Yeah. The point of a privilege is that it's something you have access to without having done anything to earn/deserve that access. You aren't stronger than the average woman because you've spent years working hard in the gym; you're stronger than them because you happened to be born a man.

[grega239]

@FilmGuy93 ok but privilages can be taken away. my strength can't be.

[Jammaa]

@grega239 your strength literally can be taken away tonight if you're injured. The biological advantages women have can also be taken in an instant. Don't take what you have for granted.

[grega239]

@Jammaa i understand i can lose it due to unforseen circumstances. Like age.

But my physical ability is not a privilege. Its a natural function due to me being male.

I dont take it for granted but its not a privilege either

[RosieMelts]

Have no idea. Some girls are willing to have more sex, but some men aren’t willing to understand women. I only met one man come very close to understanding women- my dad, and even he has some limits. His limits is underestimating me at times, but I’ve proven him wrong and know I’ll always have some percentage of respect/ understanding and love from him. He’s a rare find 👑👏

[grega239]

Its hard to understand women when your words dont match your actions

[RosieMelts]

@grega239 like I said- he’s a rare find.

[242plusInfinity]

@grega239 You're right. I use to try so hard. But I give up. I realize that people are individuals you cannot know one girl and then you know all girls. You cannot know one green person and think you now know all green people. That societies problem. It's not that we dont try. Men want women and so we try and vice versa. The issue is we dont treat people like individuals and on top of that if they aren't attractive we see them as dirt. Everyone does it. We dont treat the people we aren't attracted to the same. Regardless of dating. It takes a conscious effort to do that.

That being said I also realized that there was average people and most people do fit that model. Sadly, I am not attracted to the average girl. Basically average meaning mass conditioning. A basic bitch. They go to school for nursing or dont go at all. They drink they smoke weed they drink coffee etc etc. Guys who do that stuff do GREAT with girls. Just what I've noticed.

[Sixgunsound]

Long term success isn’t contingent on having more sex. Even if you have sex every day you spend so much more of your time on other things that straightening out those issues is important as well. Giving it up more doesn’t make everything else all better.

[RosieMelts]

@242plusInfinity I never read something so relatable. You’re exactly right to think that way. The thing about treating others bad because they’re not attractive- yeah, that’s highschool bull shxt lol I treated every ‘odd’ person and snotty person to myself as normal. So much so, I helped some guy gain confidence simply by being another person he could talk to, and by the time he hit highschool, he had friends and a girlfriend. I really know beyond a shadow of a doubt that it was because I DECIDED to acknowledge him as a human being- and he was cool! All we did was say hi in the hallway in passing. He wanted more to socialize and found the ability to have dialogue with people who shared the same interests as him. He didn’t look attractive to me, but he had some admirable features. He was a good kid. So I’d never treat anyone I didn’t like as horrible- it’s just fucking idiotic. Before I rage at this unbelief and confusion of how people can be so immature and stupid- I’ll leave it be. Everyone has issues and I’m not adapting so well to the ones in their BEHAVIOR and PSYCHOLOGY, than that stupid zit on their face or their lack of height. Who fucking gives a dxamn. Corruption in his world needs to cease. Okay I’m done- me talking about it isn’t gonna reverse it lmfao. Wishing you the best on your journey. Truly. That’s the best I can offer to you, a fellow GaG forum user. 🤝

Thanks for the share. It was enlightening.

[RosieMelts]

@Sixgunsound You know you gave me the ability to decide I’m not gonna fxck around with guys anymore. Am I gonna meet that guy that’s mature and efficient in every aspect similar to me? Frankly being honest, no, unless I come up with some “formula” on how to meet him, eliminating all ‘bad odds,’ considering the 8 billion people on the planet. Am I just gonna have to be okay with it and live my life with true content, than with fuck bois and being complacent or compromised? Certainly. It’s my life I don’t owe sexual gratification to anyone, if it gets in the way of my own true pleasure. Yeah I respect them- I’m human enough to lend a hand if they need it in hard times, and have genuine compassion, but they can literally.. go fuck themselves, with whatever toys they need, and leave me out of it- if that changed how they see me as a human, then what do ya know- ig the end of the world is sooner than we Initially thought. Lmfao

[Sixgunsound]

Happy to help in any small way that I can.

[MCheetah]

Men: Stop being simps and grow some balls and self-respect. I know it's not easy and I used to "put the pussy on a pedestal" too. But you need to have self-respect.

Women: Stop being entitled bitches and thinking having a pussy means being treated like a queen and worshipped when you're a 5 at best. You have to actually bring something to the table in a relationship too ESPECIALLY if you don't plan on having kids (which is the only reason most men pampered you throughout modern history to begin with; to ensure their kids would be well).

Other than that, I have no idea. This species is kinda f*cked.

[Lionman95]

I would think people need more humility and more concentration to really listen to each other and not just anticipate what others might say.

General speaking it´s time to leave comfort zones again and meet people that have different opinions so that discussions are an exchange of arguments again and not of emotions.

Because nowadays I often experience where it seems people are fighting against each other and want to destroy each other instead of trying to understand each other.

[FilmGuy93]

Better communication. Women need to get better about articulating their needs and men need to stop doing misleading and generally dishonest things to women just because we know what they want to hear. Oh, and we also need to stop being so legalistic in our relationships. This is dealing with someone’s emotionally vulnerable self; not a corporate merger between two antagonistic giants. Say what you mean, mean what you say, and stop making people feel stupid for having expectations just because you happened to change your mind.

[RiseofArtemis]

Getting rid of Feminism as that is driving a deep ditch between the two sexes and causes a we against them situation where one side never sees what the other suffers in.

We should strive for unity and not create even more segregation like its currently the case. There are crazies in Europe who want a gender equal gramer and language while its actually doing the opposite and discriminates against both. I'll give an example in German. "Sportler" has become "Sportlerinnen" because they think only using the male version is sexist when its in fact including both genders as a we in unity. "Sportlerinnen" is solely a female gramer version which excludes the male gender. Quite sexist isn't it.

Getting rid of toxic government laws that are heavily negative for men and heavily favorite women will also help to get us back together.

[Ill_made_Knight]

Nothings ever gonna make things all candy and roses, it just isn't like that.
I'll tell ya thoughI think a ton of ills (and not on just relationship wise) would be simplified if we could get this labor to pay ratio kink worked out a little better...
People working two jobs still not getting by with much margin... everybody constantly scared to take time off and have fun and :O spend a little money.
We gotta get this ironed out and get a little of this pressure off of people... it's just one factor, but it's a big one

[Dargil]

Western (mostly) white women are hopelessly infected with Feminist/SJW propaganda. Men should quarantine them completely. Don't have sex with them, don't marry them and don't let them raise or teach your children. Sure, there will be Black, Hispanic and Asian "strays", but they will reveal themselves in conversation by a little cross examination. Then, RUN! There are millions of eligible, uninfected females in East Asia and Latin America. I brought one home. It is worth the time, expense and language difference. Not only that, but is it "diversity", Republican style. We should be unconcerned about any browning of America. They want to absorb our culture and will.
I feel like I'm cheating fate every day.

[voggetta]

Stop viewing everything as statistics it's easy to make numbers say whatever you want them to. women make so much less than men, men are more homeless than women blah blah blah. I don't know anybody named 'most women' or 'most men' I just know the individuals I know who don't experience their lives in percentages of statistics, and everybody sees outcomes and assumes incentive or conscious decisions from it. We needa get our noses out of world news and media and just focus on the people at home and how they're being treated.

[splkato]

Lowering one's expectations of the other. Truth be told, we always "expect" someone to handle or treat us in a certain way. It's when we over-expect that we crash real hard.

Accepting that humans aren't perfect; thus we need constant communication with each other to know were we've gone wrong.

Knowing that NO HUMAN CAN THINK THE SAME. I mean the brain has 2 hemispheres that apparently carry out different functions. We ought to relate to this and apply it in reality

Letting a woman be a woman and a man be a man; identity permitting. When one loses a sense of individuality - their dark version gets born (my theory)

[JustiReno]

Be real, be fair, express goals, teamwork at all times, communication, care, compromise, hard work (for life), loyalty, faith

i think woman don’t understand words and men don’t understand emotions, i think we want two different things

i have a girlfriend and tho it is rough ALL THE TIME, I can see it til the next day, some people just “click” and are on the same page, I don’t cross red lines, cuz that’s bye bye to my relationship

i seen with my own eyes, people stay together, people break up, I want to be people that stay together, just my preference

guys gotta be real, you just want pussy, get a fucking job and you’ll get it, go to the bar, buy her a drink, maybe play pool, talk, ask her to hold your drink but not like a douche, bet she DTF anyway

[GlassTop]

You can’t. Society has pushed women dominance in such a manner that a man’s whole life and career can be destroyed by a tweet or accusation with no evidence without consequences. Men may dominate the higher paying jobs and wealth, but women can destroy men with words. It’s already snowball effect which is the reason marriages have failed, single motherhood has climbed, and promiscuity has exponentially grown. Sex is power and women have the power. Men are slaves to sex. That’s why so many men have turned gay. It will eventually climax into a failed society and something will give.

[NottaNatty]

A lot of Women need to have more respect and understanding for what men do for them, stop stereotyping all men as oblivious pigs and stop being so unrealistic and entitled about what you "want" from them. Likewise a lot of men need to stop feeling sorry for themselves, stop being simps, treat women with respect. just listen to them and stop complaining. This man vs woman idea honestly gets old so fast, though I feel it will be a hot debate till the end of time. It's not hard to get along if everyone stops trying to read minds.

[DudeDiligence]

It seems women (mostly feminists) have been trying less to help women and more to hurt men. They see it as a zero-sum game where instead of boosting women they try to drag down and undermine men and respect for men to achieve some hypothetical notion of "equality". It's like trying to achieve equality buy dumping the water out of one glass instead of pouring water into another.

Now we're seeing a lot of men doing the same thing to women in retaliation. I see it from both sides here on GAG every day. It's a viscous cycle that is causing a lot of anger and resentment between the sexes. I honestly don't know what the answer is other than not personally identifying with or supporting feminism and red pill silliness and calling out people who do. We need to recognize what these groups are actually doing and stop pretending they are doing something noble. They're not.

[JSmuve]

Men need to stop simping, get some self-respect, and stop giving women passes for bad behaviour because they're women.

Women need to stop saying it's a man's job to pursue women and then shit all over guys that try to do it. Try a little empathy and respect. It's really difficult to do and women's standoffish attitudes make it a hell of a lot more difficult than it needs to be.

Societally, we need to get rid of social media and dating apps and start legalizing and normalizing brothels and making them more widely accessible. How society would be different if a guy could just walk into his neighborhood brothel and unload when he's feeling stressed or unwanted instead of simping over some broad's instagram to get a shred of validation that'll never come.

[pass_the_celery98]

Simple…

1) men and guys can’t be egotistical pricks with obsessive, aggressive behaviour towards females over rejection or her saying no or no thank you.

2) women and girls can’t follow the destructive 3rd wave feminist mindset where it’s normalized to tear down men, call men and guys simps, assholes, or other derogatory comments.

Yes, there is two sides to the spectrum where both have to realize their mistakes but in this world today I feel like it’s going to get worse before it gets better.

[msc545]

An important step would be for people to recognize that men and children both now have their rights routinely violated in Family Law courts, and they would take steps to ensure that equal protection as supposedly guaranteed under the Federal Constitution is actually implemented instead of just being paid lip service if at all.

Men are angry as hell at women for weaponizing the legal system against them in the form of alimony., child support, and child custody decisions that almost always favor women. Additionally, each year thousands of children effectively lose their fathers because of biased custody decisions and the failure of courts to punish women who withhold even minimal visitation from fathers with no consequences.

[JDavid25]

Get rid of the feminist induced misandry and propaganda.. Especially the Universities.. Encourage good fatherhood, so that more women could have a good baseline on what a good man is.. And let go of the socialized fake competition also.. Men and women have different strengths and weaknesses..

[dustybiker]

Of one is having problems. Communication with the opposite sex works well. Ask questions. Make less assumptions.

[NathanDavis]

they have never ever been any sort of problematic for me...

and honestly, I don't have any interest or business on solving the personal matters of other people, is just not my position...

[Asker]

I'm referring to the overall relations of men and women in society. I'm asking what we can individually do, that amounts to a collective effort, to better men and women relations with one another.

[NathanDavis]

we can grow up as individuals... that would help a lot

but just because I am a grown up that doesn't mean other menchild out there will also grow up by proxy... right?

[nightdrot]

NathanDavis, you are my hero!!! Bang on. Time for men and women to GROW UP! Observe common courtesy, quit the feeling of entitlement and with that the expectation that one's feelings are all that matter.

The planet could use about a billion more like you!! No joke. High compliment paid to you - and you earned it!!

[NathanDavis]

@nightdrot I do agree with you when you say we should all quit on feeling entitled to things, or to SOMEONE especially... entitled to someone we just feel like we can choose on our own terms alone

[Asker]

@NathanDavis

Also, "womenchild" too right?

[NathanDavis]

yes... you can't just transfer away grownup points, sort of speak

although, I have no experience on growing up as a woman, only as a man

but I am sure many ways is basically the same thing

[nightdrot]

Even more than that, the sense that our feelings are all that matter. That the other person is secondary to how we feel and how we feel we should be treated.

Men and women are not getting along because the emphasis is on what we get out of relationships and not what we put into them. Because both enter relationships not with an open mind, common courtesy and a stiff upper lip when things don't go well, but with a sense of grievance and, as I say, entitlement.

Not only the relations between men and women, but society as a whole, would be far better if we started by thinking less of ourselves and more of the "other." Not of what we expect to get, but we ought give - eyes wide open that there are no assurances of happy endings. Thus when you get that happy ending - JACKPOT!!

[Asker]

@NathanDavis

I was just trying to say both men and women can do some growing up, not just men.

I don't think you have to be a woman to know that some women are immature and need to do some growing up.

[NathanDavis]

@nightdrot well I do agree with that 1000%

in fact, this is how I entered to my every relationship, lol... willing to give and make them as happier as I could and as I knew how, and then they just reciprocated with even more in return...

when a giver pairs with another giver, thinks can go great

now, if both are just takers and in top of that they demand very high expectations that won't even consider how the other person actually is... that's just not going to work so well, and that should not be a surprise to anybody

[Ryan1979]

A woman will cheat on a elderly man if he refuses to take viagra. Imagine if a 20 year old man required a woman to take a pill that made her want to have sex more. It happens all the time to elderly men. And it is totally fine not an eye is batted

[Vegasrunner]

@embracethepain This is a really good question. I'll share my opinion.

1. More men need to have an abundance mentality.

2. The number of men that are active on online dating sites needs to be reduced.

3. Marriage contracts need to be designed more like drivers licenses and be up for renewal every 3-5 years.