There are those who cause problems among them, or there are those who really need help. The country's economy is being labeled.
Should they stay in their own country and fight for their country?
I'm all for helping people but I also feel like people should do it the correct way as well. My state specifically is a "sanctuary state". Meaning if you are an illegal alien, we will protect you. If ICE comes after you, we will hide and protect you from them. I don't believe in this. I truly don't. BUT I also have my reasons. Since we became a Sanctuary State 4 years ago we currently have had over 80,000 illegal aliens protected within our borders. They have started forming groups like "adopt a refugee" because there is NO housing for people and they have asked us to open our doors and allow them to live with us until a more permanent solution is found. As it stands currently, our civic center, our state theatre and our indoor ice arenas have been turned in to make shift housing for the thousands of un-homed illegal aliens. I currently work with DHHS as well so I work with a lot of these people face to face and with that comes a whole other aspect of how terrible the situation is currently. For the first year of them living within our state, they are NOT allowed to work. We instead give them $1600 a month in homing cost, a free cell phone per adult (anyone over 16), free healthcare and anywhere from $900-1200 in food stamps depending on the amount of people in their immediate family. During this first year our state also pays for intensive therapy for all individuals and classes so they can learn how to be functioning members of society. We are currently almost $560k over budget and still have that number rising with every single day. After that first year, we help them find work and we income match them for the next 2 years. We offer programs to get them brand new vehicles for a fraction of the cost. We are basically handing everything over on a silver platter and we do not have the resources to do so. But my state is one of the ones who gets all of these people BECAUSE we are a sanctuary state and they are protected here. So like I said, I'm all for helping people but this is way too much. Our homeless rate has gone from 13% to 36% in 4 years and it's not the illegals who are homeless. We have developments being built all throughout our state but the illegals have first dibs.
Nah, come over. I wish Canada could let qualified professionals keep their qualifications, or at least have an easier time qualifying here. We're facing shortages in medicine and teaching, it'd be great to let doctors and teachers practice here without having to totally redo their degrees.
I'd say let them challenge whatever tests we have that qualify our homegrown professionals. If they can pass, let them practice. Perhaps with minimal coursework to double check.
The immigration process itself will catch out many would be criminals. And criminals who smuggle themselves in aren't coming from the traditional immigration route anyways.
Birthrates are falling, the global south will have lots of climate refugees. They can escape climate change, join the efforts in my country to undo it (if they so choose), and we get to round out our population.
Win-win-win.
One should ask themselves this very simple question. Why is our government of country invading other countries and creating wars for their own benefit (ex: Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc). There would be no need for refugees to be displaced or moved from one country to the next of war and conflict was not inflicted on their lands. People who read this will say, Islamic extremists took over that country? My rebuttal is, if people understood a religion like Islam they would understand ISIS, Al-Qaeda and other extremist Wahabbi-led groups don’t represent Islam, they go by their own ideologies. Israel is another example of oppression on a group of people.
The United States invaded Afghanistan for over 20 years, it was for oil purposes, then they leave because Al-Qaeda takes over? Please, it’s because the US govt wanted to “save” money in their continued colonial pursuit. One minute American politicians say we want to come to peaceful terms with al-qaeda the next its we need to discipline them, and this has been happening for decades. Saddam Hussein a former dictator of Iraq was someone who smiled and shook hands with previous US officials and leaders. Odd, considering the US views him as an evil man, which he was.
But this system is corrupt, these political ideologies we fight over is BS, and eventually more people will realize what shitty things governments did to other people. It took people over 100 years to realize what were done to indigenous people of Canada as an example. 20 years after 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and George Bush saying “they have weapons of mass destruction”, they never did, it was a lie to invade and steel oil. If someone had weapons of mass destruction, anyone with common sense should understand any foreign planes flying near a country will bad content would be met with a barrage of missiles right? Any sensible person who has a small hand gun met with an intruder would be shot, correct? Yet people want to buy want a president or prime minister says, that’s brain washing at its finest.
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Well not to be too harsh but we got many "parasites" here. Our system is broken, if you're refugee you get a lot of help from the government and as you already know if you are too kind to someone they'll become spoiled, and thats exactly happening here. Came to the point that they, as guests in our country, demand us to andapt to them and refuse to integrate or some dont even work or respect our culture. Our politicians want to be seen as heroes by saving as many refugees as they can, thanks to them a nigerian an albanian criminal network installed themself here.
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Depends. Core matter is whether they're willing to adapt to a new country or not (meaning embrace it culturally, socially and even in terms of religion), work on themselves, learn and develop. If yes, then I don't really see much of an issue.
If not, then they should be never allowed in, as they'll preserve their so-called "culture" (leftists especially, whenever they think of a "culture", think of very shallow and unimportant things, such as food or music that could be under a specific scope interpreted as "better" or as a "good addition"; whether when I think of "culture", I think of much broader things, such as personal liberty, private property, legal institutions etc.) and will eventually become an enclave or so-called "parallel society" that will clash with culture and values of the new country even if their home country will progress further, hence why there were times when (for example) Italians in the US were viewed more Italian than Italians in Italy, or Indians being more Indian than Indians in India. Original country moves on, but their sheltered bubbles in a new country do not.
It gets worse if they try to spread their so-called "culture" in the new country, being completely oblivious as to why they even left their home country, thus pretty much poisoning it with the very stuff that drove their country into shit to begin with that forced them to flee it; they also tend to see reasons as being very simplistic (for example reason being "war", yet never thinking what were the core reasons that drove it to the state of war to begin with). In short, such refugees/immigrants greatly remind a parasite that always seeks a new healthy host whenever an old one dies of the disease a parasite has caused and are oblivious/take offense if you point out their problems are their own fault and that they themselves are a root of an issue.
I think if people love your country so much then they should gather together countries so you take over their country and repopulate them. Most refugees I met from siria and iraq wanted to go back. Can’t fit the world in one place and as well mixing too much of their cultures changes your home character. People who want to stay should be immigrated legally.
Gets more complicated as environment changes for some areas will not be habitable so we will have to move people and be open.
Big challenges on humanity going forward…
1. Joe thinks that they're all gonna be so thrilled that he's letting them come here AND PAYING THEM to do so that they're ALL gonna vote for him at the next election! Most of them hate him for being such a shitty "president" and are gonna vote for Trump instead!
2. The fact that he's inviting this to happen is racist!! Because of all those illegals coming in, they're gonna be taking our jobs and that gonna keep blacks and other races that were born here from getting those jobs!!
3. Joe and his minions think this is such a wonderful idea but, they don't seem to like it when we start shipping these people to where THEY live to let THEM deal with it!! It's PERFECTLY FINE to let TEXAS deal with it but, for them it's, NIMBY!!
The refugees who cause the problems are the ones who are not wanted in their own countries. That’s often why they’re fleeing in the first place.
I saw this video yesterday by an Iranian man who goes by “ImamOfPeace” on Twitter. In it he says that basically we’re importing their trash.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Klaus_Arminius/status/1568949508947546117
Generally we try and take who we can, generally they are welcomed, the issues related to Islam and the west is putting pressure on the Islamic world to figure out ways to solve their issues without conflict, the displacement of people's that have little interest of integrating with other cultures, and no respect for others religions, is a huge problem. Muslims are less likely to be welcomed in the west, which is fair because who wants a next door neighbour who hates you because you are different.
That has always been my feeling. The United States cannot continue to do this and survive as a unified country, and there is only so much $$$$$. We fight everybody's wars, take in everybody's refugees, and the suffer the consequences. This Administration hopes to be bringing in more and more Democratic, liberal voters to keep the Democratic party in power.
We cannot even care for our own people, let alone bring millions more from ever country on the planet
There is a difference between an illegal alien and what you call a refugee. There are far less refugee's coming to America - some from Ukraine too.
Illegals come in to America by the millions!
True refugee's should be helped. But these millions of illegals need to stay in their own country and build into something substantial where they can help themselves.
I get it, but at the same time, where is the cutoff? This goes back to a question I answered somebody a few months back in regards to resources available and population control to account for local economy, housing and lifestyle. It's not taking them in that's the problem, it comes down to there being no cutoff to adjust for the amount of people accepted to accommodate the new swell of growth.
At some point someone has to say "we can't help. You need to go elsewhere."
That picture says a lot. Why was this child even conceived if the place where the parents are from is all jacked up? Common sense is that you don't make a bunch of children if your own life isn't stable. If these people are impulsive and don't have any common sense, then what benefit are they going to bring to the host country? The primary reason they're refugees is because they overpopulated their home country and stripped it of it's resources, and now they want to migrate somewhere else? I feel sorry for them, but letting them invade my country is not good for me.
I'll probably hear the argument that they just need to be 'educated', but if all races are supposed to be equal in intelligence, as I'm told, then why does my culture need to educate THEM? If they can't figure this kind of stuff out for themselves, does that imply that they really ARE an inferior race?
We don't have any here.
Unless we speak of ''economic'' refugees from neighbouring countries.
What I think about them... they just seek a safe home, and some regular food. Same as I do.
''Fighting'' is not always an option or even within our reach.
White countries are the only countries expected to commit Cultural and ethic suicide through excepting mass non white immigration. Our politicians that are supposed to be looking after our best interests but instead sell us out and conspire against us should face a guillotine.
I feel for them but everything has a procedure. Do it legally as a lot of folks from other countries are doing it legally so they should get priority over the "cuts in liners".
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Productive members of society are always welcome. I don't see how a bad refugee is any different or worse than a bad individual who was born here.
The USA leadership is so schizoid. We left behind thousands in Afghanistan who loyally helped us maintain the so-called peace for 20 years. They remain persecuted & tortured or dead by the Taliban. Yet 3 million unverified illegals any anyone else who can survive wading the Rio Grande are allowed in. As Dark Brandon explains it we do it "because that's who we are." WHAT?
I'm fine with the united states allowing women and young girls fleeing who are decently competent (those in the 60th percentile and above). Fathers too, but I don't think the country should accept single men unless they're proven to be high skilled and valuable to a higher standard. Some goes even for regular immigration, the USCIS is too lenient.
Refugees aren't the problem, it's illegal economic migrants that are. Refugees tend to want to return home ASAP
They should stay and if that’s not possible they should go to the closest safe country that is the most similar to their own country in terms of culture, ethnicity etc. And when things are safe back in their home countrys they should go back there.
If they’re fleeing war then let them in. Most of the refugees from Ukraine are women and children. The men stayed to fight. In contrast to the Syrian conflict all their men fled for western Europe.
I don't really think about it. As far as I'm concerned they are welcome to seek refuge and have a right to safety and security.
My country in the last time has a lot of Ukrainians. When in most cases mass immigration is bad for country, because it rises crime rates and can result in creating "ethnic islands" where immigrants do not integrate into the society, then I guess Ukrainians are possibly the best immigrants for Poland, as they have very similar culture and very similar language to polish, so they would be much easier to integrate than f. e. Syrians in 2015.
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