Should DeSantis be prosecuted?

[msc545]

Thanks to Goaded for providing this recitation of the applicable law:

"8 U. S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens

(a) Criminal penalties (1)(A) Any person who—

(ii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;

(v)

(I) engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II) aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,

... shall be punished...

(ii) in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;"

Apparently:

* the refugees have been welcomed with open arms.

* they were lied to, to get them on the flights

* the organizers filed a fake flight plan and "diverted"

* it cost $12 million of Florida taxpayer funds.

Updates

+1 y

So the responses from the Trumpers and Fascists on GaG are a perfect example of the "Gish Gallop" form of argument:

"The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique that involves overwhelming your opponent with as many arguments as possible, with no regard for the accuracy, validity, or relevance of those arguments. For example, a person using the Gish gallop might attempt to support their stance by bringing up, in rapid succession, a large number of vague claims, anecdotal statements, Etc.

[NewsReader]

No. Neither DeSantis not Abbott have done anything wrong or else they would have been in trouble already. They are winning because of their smart strategy. I applaud them. The illegal immigrants were originally welcomed in open arms by democrats. They were not lied to. They voluntarily (by choice) got onto buses or planes and we're told that they will be transported from Arizona / Texas / Florida to DC / Chicago / NY / Martha's Vineyard. No lie in that. They were not put into fake buses or planes. Florida's DOT received $12 million specifically to transport these people out of the state. And guess what, now all the democratic governors and mayor's are calling it an emergency because they don't have the resources to support all these illegal immigrants. Looks like these democrats got first hand experience in what southern states have to deal with.

https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/opinion-potomac-watch/the-immigration-war-between-the-states/b55e6828-b2d9-495f-a507-a8c877519554

[msc545]

Very sad that you admire racist monsters.

[goaded]

The people who were flown to Martha's Vinyard said that a woman they identified as "Perla" lured them from a shelter in San Antonio to board a plane with promises of expedited work permits in Boston.

Lying to someone to get them into a vehicle is kidnapping. And they crossed state lines with them, which makes it a federal crime (if it isn't already).

[NewsReader]

@goaded It's not the job of DeSantis to give them jobs or shelter. That's what Massachusetts is responsible for. And DeSantis knew that a blue state would do that. And msc545 removed my previous comment because he didn't like it. I'm keeping track of extremists like him.

[goaded]

Why do you think I said it was DeSantis' job to find them work or shelter? I said he (or his representatives) lied to them to get them on the flights, and that's illegal. A federal crime. Kidnapping.

[NewsReader]

@goaded How can it be kidnapping if they voluntarily chose to get on the bus / plane and go? No one forced them to go. They either go to DC, NY, wherever, or leave the state. And there are shelters and food and jobs available. But there is a limit of course. This is about letting democrats experience what people down south are experiencing. And it worked because it gained attention and triggered the "Not In My Backyard" response when all the wealthy Democrats who have no idea what terrible conditions actually are near the border. Harris lied in an interview with Chuck Todd about the border being secure. Even he was surprised by what she was saying. Chuck Todd is far left and he didn't even try to defend her claim.

[goaded]

It's called kidnapping by inveiglement. Look it up. They got in the planes expecting to go to Boston and have people waiting there to help them.

"Chuck Todd is far left"
OMG.

[goaded]

Personally, I think he should be convicted of a few tens of thousands of cases of manslaughter. Making mistakes when confronting a novel unknown threat is one thing, ignoring scienctific advice that can save lives years later is another. It's not like he just gave communitied the freedom to make their own assessments, he actively prevented local governments from implementing life-saving measures.

[msc545]

He also actively and publicly lied about the number of deaths caused by Covid.

[goaded]

@schittywok Like I said: "Making mistakes when confronting a novel unknown threat is one thing, ignoring scienctific advice that can save lives years later is another."

[FunkyMonkee]

Sounds ilke the Gish gallop, to me!

[goaded]

@FunkyMonkee Definitely. All over the place.

[FunkyMonkee]

You said it!!

[goaded]

By the way, it looks like he did not commit that particular crime, but only because the immigrants were not illegal immigrants, they'd been processed at the (Texas) border already. (That's what you get for thinking extremists might occasionally tell the truth.)

DeSantis does seem to be guilty of kidnapping by inveiglement (lying to/misleading the victims). A federal crime.

[bayoubomber]

@goaded "Making mistakes when confronting a novel unknown threat is one thing, ignoring scienctific advice that can save lives years later is another." What mistake did @schittywok make? No mask, no vaxx, unafraid. Do you listen to yourself? You put the mask on, you get your shot, you get 18 boosters then you politely fuck off. Why? Because you are so "protected" and you are so not spreading the virus anyhow!!!

[bayoubomber]

@msc545 "He also actively and publicly lied about the number of deaths caused by Covid." So, you know the actual number of COVID deaths? Bullshit! The CDC admitted that they cannot differentiate between the Standard Flu and COVID. Facts! How many people do you know personally that died from COVID with these inflated numbers? I seriously don't know one person? I know two people that got hospitalized. That's it! Libtards opine that they went to "so many funerals." Wait a minute? Really? Deadliest times of all timez. You went to these said "funerals." Weren't you supposed to be locked up in your basement? Samuel L. Jackson told you so! Get in your damn basement!! LOLZ.

[goaded]

@bayoubomber "Facts!" No, bullshit.

[FunkyMonkee]

The, Joey's guilty, too!! Lock him up, first!

[goaded]

@bayoubomber "ignoring scienctific advice that can save lives years later" is what DeSantis did. That's why tens of thousands of Floridians have died unnecessarily.

[FunkyMonkee]

The day a lefty spews facts, the world will end!!

[FunkyMonkee]

LOL!! That's why Florida's loaded with people!

[Anonymous]

It’s an election year ploy designed to appeal to the racists and xenophobes. I don’t know if his actions violated the law but, if they did, he should be treated like anyone else would be.

[FunkyMonkee]

Why would he want to appeal to the democrats? THEY''RE the reason we're IN THIS fucking mess!!

[Opinion Owner]

Brown skinned migrants are not that high on the list of this country’s real problems. DeSantis is playing to the worst in people.

[FunkyMonkee]

In what way?

[Friendlybro79]

@FunkyMonkee the worst people like the ones that think all immigrants are criminals and rapists.. He's looking for votes from the fearful and racist base of people he advocates for

[FunkyMonkee]

@Friendlybro79 He doesn't advocate to democrats.
Immigrants that have come in not using the correct method to do so ARE criminals in that they are doing it illegally! THAT'S why they're called ILLEGAL immigrants! Go to China, Russia or any other country you seem to like better than this one and walk the fuck in like you owned the place and see how long you'll be allowed to stay there. IF they let you stay, it'll be in a prison cell!

[Friendlybro79]

@FunkyMonkee Hey Moron... Yes you... I'm saying he's catering to Republican voters. Now follow me for a moment. Read it slowly if you have to. It's a publicity stunt to get more republicans, mainly Trump supporters, who don't like illegal immigrants. Sending them to Martha's vineyard makes Republicans happy like yeah show the libs... etc... This is to help him gain popularity if he chooses to run for president in 2024. Regardless, illegals have been crossing the border always. Republican or Democrat in office. It's a stupid stunt. Also if Deschmuckness broke the law, and they can actually prove it, then he should pay the consequences. That goes for all politicians regardless of party affiliation.

You're right Detrashness doesn't adovcate for democrats. He doesn't care about all Americans. Just the ones that think like him and vote for him.

Oh and if you don't like my response then you can go pack your bags and move to a country where free speech isn't allowed you simpleton

[schittywok]

@Friendlybro79 So, why the FUCK is it okay for Biden to do Red Eye's all over fuck with Immigrants? Thee not for me but for thee bullshit? They don't want Immigrants in their rich rich lands. Where who exists?

[schittywok]

... The rich elite. They can't have it. Nope. Not on their door step.

[FunkyMonkee]

@Friendlybro79 Let's play Pearl Harbour! I'll be Pearl Harbour and you can be the Japanese. I'll lay down and you can come swooping in and blow the hell out of me.

[bayoubomber]

@Friendlybro79 Bro, Bruh, what the fuck ever. "Deadliest timez of all timez." More so than the Bubonic Plague. Yup, let's get them over here, unmasked, unvaxxed.

[bayoubomber]

@Friendlybro79 Also answer me this. Why do I have 3 accounts here. You butthurts like to tattle on me. I get sent to the Big Tech Gulag more times than I can count across ALL platforms. And you have the temerity to talk about the 1st Amendment? That is grand. The BIG TECH strikes are so Commie and ridiculous. Here on GAG? My other accounts are suspended via "review." Every single time GAG simply reviews for a day or two, then my accounts are reinstated. Do I need to remind you Twitter banned the ALMIGHTY Orange Man?

[bayoubomber]

@Friendlybro79 The stupid thing? Twitter is supposed to be ground zero for our Country's Town Hall. You censor us so much it's beyond comprehension. And you are so stupid as to listen to FAKE NEWS and base your ideals on Twitter? Need we remind you 99% of media is LEFT BENT? Plus Trump is ramping up for 2024? Do you seriously think Biden, the potato head, and heels up Harris are going to run again? You must be insane. The only candidates that can touch Trump are who? Oprah? Michael Obama? Who do you seriously believe can win the next Presidency as a Democrat? NOBODY.

[bayoubomber]

@Friendlybro79 Who's RACIST? We ask this time and time again. Name one instance in which Trump was ever, ever RACIST? You can't name it. Yet, we can quote Biden time and time and time and time and time and time again. But you voted for that PIECE of DoG shit. It's okay though, in your mind, because BIDEN LEARNED FROM HIS MISTAKES. Are you kidding me? The DBAG was a RACIST BOOB for count it, 4 decades, not days, not weeks, not months, not half a year, 4 DECADES. And he continues to make RACIST COMMENTS along with other COUNTLESS DEMOCRATS day in and day out to this very minute, not DAYS, NOT HOURS, NOT MINUTES, to this VERY SECOND!!

[bayoubomber]

And you stupid retards Champion Kentanji Brown as so educated. She's so BLACK, and SO much A WOMAN, yet she can't define what a woman is because she "ISN'T A BIOLIGIST?" At the same time she's A PEDO SYPMATHIZER? Soft on Pedos, making the way for Pedophilia to be legal!!! Are you kidding me?

[John_Doesnt]

He should be prosecuted for wasting his state's money. That money could fill pot holes or fund their police or buy meth for their alligator mayors.

[FilmGuy93]

Nah. DeSantis hasn't done anything that Obama, Biden and well over half of Wall Street haven't been doing way worse for years.

[msc545]

fine. Let's prosecute a bunch of the Wall Street psychopaths too.

[FilmGuy93]

I'll drink to that! Maybe if these assholes had the fear of god in them, they' would stop destroying our country for profit.

[SiberFox]

By that law, the entire Obama and Biden administrations should be brought down.

[goaded]

Why? Did you miss the "in furtherance of such violation of law" part?

[SiberFox]

Considering Obama let in millions of illegals and Biden did everything he could to undermine ICE, no I didn't.

[goaded]

No they didn't.

[jshm2]

DeSantis has got enough cases in court against him, at the moment.

[exitseven]

No, DeSantis should be president of the United States. Eventually he will be,.

[Iron_Man]

Do you think he should step down as governor?

[msc545]

Maybe so. Not sure since I don't live there.

[DWornock]

Of course he should not be prosecuted. If anyone should be prosecuted, it is the feds that don't prosecute and deport illegals.

[notwoke]

we should make a statue honoring him. I'll pay for it. He's trying to save the country

[Anonymous]

The liberals say execute all republicans and they will hence the 87,000 'IRS' hitmen they've hired to carry out those commands and size assets from every non-elite democrat or other affiliation citizen

[Anonymous]

Nah, they are just doing the leftists who likes immigrants, and the immigrants a favor. Now, if for example some leftists transported immigrants during the night, now that would perhaps be worth a lifetime or two in prison!

[Dargil]

I am ROTFLOL. Isn't that what the Biden Administration is doing?

[msc545]

No that is not happening yet.

[Dargil]

They have been flying illegals to red state small towns for two years.

[msc545]

Proof?

[Dargil]

I don't have to convince you. Look it up yourself.

[msc545]

You asserted it, you support it. That is the way this works.

[Dargil]

I don't need to. It is all over the news. Democrats just don't want to admit it.
However... I'll throw you a bone.
tennesseeconservativenews.com/.../
noqreport.com/.../
headlineusa.com/.../
www.bing.com/search

You are all probably holocaust deniers as well.

[msc545]

Do you have any reputable sources?

[msc545]

@schittywok yes, we will all just take your word for everything. I think not.

[msc545]

You have no proof or you would have provided it already. Screaming and yelling won't fix that for you.

[msc545]

@bayoubomber Do you have anything substantive to say here, or are you just ranting as usual?

[FunkyMonkee]

For what reason?

[msc545]

To be nominated for President and elected by Rednecks.

[FunkyMonkee]

Better than to be elected by a bunch of dead idiots.

[msc545]

Live idiots are better?

[FunkyMonkee]

Joe used both.

[schittywok]

@msc545 Joe can't wipe his own asshole. That thing in Medieval times was a position of power. For a fit, in shape, person that would or could not wipe his own asshole because he has servants to do so. It is said that, that position would allow the ass wiper to get inside information and have fantastic talks, with the King almighty. It don't work that way anymore. Jill wipes Joe's asshole. Confirmed.

[msc545]

@schittywok You are sounding more and more demented.

[schittywok]

It's true, King Henry the VIII did not wipe his own bunghole. It's not demented, it's regular 1500's times. Ask all the scholars who put Dr. in front of their name as historians. They didn't have Depends or Oops I Shit My Pants adult diapers in them days. And yes, it was a position of nobility to have that ability to bend the Kings ear. To be a part of that Courtship wasn't slavery. Everyone wanted to bow down and wipe his asshole.

[schittywok]

If you were King? And you didn't have tp or bidets. It would be such a commodity to have servants wipe your asshole. When getting your asshole wiped, you better do some back ground checks, you don't need Sear's catalogs or out houses, you have in houses. I can only imagine, times pre Secret Service, it would be a very esteemed prestige, that you would trust some one to wipe your own ass hole clean as a plate.

[schittywok]

The thing is? Tim Allen did a joke. And the Libtards blasted him. All he said was “Biden was on 60 minutes. I heard he asked how long the show was.” UPROARSZ!!! LOLZ!! You cannot do that!!!

[schittywok]

You cannot do that!!! Well, Tim Allen was not asked back by Disney to play the part of the voice that was Buzz Light Year. Chris Evans got that part. Who the fuck cares right? But Chris Evans is just another cog in the Hollyweird bullshit that does not allow Conservatives.

[schittywok]

I really do not like Tim Allen. For one, he was a Corona fuck tard. The other thing, he is a Ukraine fucktard too. He's on your side as much as he is my side.

[schittywok]

@msc545 There is a point to all of this. It's not 1500's for one. The decrepit dementia addled frontal cortex President should be able to sit on a porcelain throne and take care of his own, without a bidet, wipe his own butt, etc. etc. (Who acts as if he got a lobotomy 4 decades prior, to his so called "Dementia"?") The most credulous and most popular Prez of all timez, cannot question it. He should have died via aneurysm. He's a Medical anomaly. If Ozzy Osbourne says he can donate his body to science via his dead ass, because of all the shit he put his body through, we must be able to get some real science from Biden. Biden literally probably had a semi lobotomy at some point to even exist. The fucker don't know AM from PM, or FM vs AM. We all know he's a puppet. He can't even walk his ass off a STAGE!!! But you voted for that guy.