Why are democrats so hostile towards conservative?

[Anonymous]

We see some democrats like Adam Sessler state they wish conservative members of their family die. We see democrats like Jennifer Lawrence state she can't speak to any member of their family that is a conservative. We see democrats dress up as ANTIFA/BLM members to actively go out and harm conservative. We see democrats go outside judges houses and threaten them if they vote a certain way. And even today, we see democrats shut down a conservative speaker from talking.

Yet, we don't see this much of hate and animosity from the right. Why is it that such extreme hatred for the other side always seem to come from the left?

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god damn. AI bot usually give me 3 days to choose. Gag really likes hijacking the MHO when it comes to politics.

[abc3643]

BECAUSE OF THIS MAN - LEE ATWATER -

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"You start out in 1954 by saying, "n**, n**, n**." By 1968 you can't say "n**"—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states' rights, and all that stuff, and you're getting so abstract. Now, you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "n**, n**."

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KKvEGHMAxFU

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LEE ATWATER : A MAN SO ODIOUS, GOD - YES, GOD - GAVE PROMPTLY GAVE HIM TERMINAL BRAIN CANCER TO REMOVE HIM FROM CONTAMINATING THE REST OF THIS PLANET.

Do not fuck with God... Remember, Jesus was the original social justice warrior.

Lee Atwater, age 38 in 1989

Lee Atwater, age 39 in 1990

Lee Atwater, age 40 in 1991.

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Unfortunately, God was a bit late in knocking-off Atwater, so the GOP learned.

Lee Atwater with "The Former Guy".

TITLE: The Roots of Donald Trump's Candidacy Lie in a South Carolina Cemetery
SUBTITLE: Searching for the soul of South Carolina politics—and the modern Republican Party.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42254/lee-atwater-grave-south-carolina/

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So, the answer to your question?

Now, the DEMS are finally getting fed-up with their bullshit.

>>>> CONSERVATIVES / GOP: YOU REAP WHAT YOU FUCKING SOW.

[abc3643]

This is another important article written by a Republican.

www.nytimes.com/.../...rich-trump-new-england.html

Moderate Republicans No Longer Have a Home, and It Started With My Defeat
Sept. 22, 2022

By Peter Smith
Mr. Smith, a Republican, represented Vermont in the House of Representatives from 1989 to 1991.

Over the last 30 years, the Republican Party has effectively eliminated its moderate and liberal voices — as well as the conservative voices that put country over party. The consequences of this takeover by an increasingly right-wing faction include the threats to democracy that have become increasingly prominent since the Jan. 6 riots.
...
I didn’t realize it at the time, but my defeat was an early step in the elimination of the moderate and liberal wing of the Republican Party. That process, aimed at members of Congress and state-level officials, began with the ascent of Newt Gingrich’s style of full-throated partisanship and has continued to this day. When moderates like Senator Olympia Snowe of Maine retired, the party typically nominated more right-wing candidates to succeed them. Over the years, the party’s capture by hard-line activists — and now, as seen in New Hampshire’s primaries last week, election deniers — has resulted in ever more extreme nominees.

When Mr. Gingrich was elected Republican minority whip by a single vote in 1989, he and his supporters seemingly had one goal: not to govern, but to control, stifle and stymie Congress. They got less actual governing done as they frustrated Congress’s work, and in many ways their strategy worked.

The long-term consequences of their scheme led to the election of Donald Trump and the rise of today’s hard-right extremism. It has also weakened and undermined the Republican Party and multiparty government in states where more liberal general election voters reject hard-liners who become Republican nominees.
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[abc3643]

What followed over the next few years was the deliberate quarantining of Republicans from Democrats: separate orientations for new members, a sharp curtailing of bipartisan activities and an increasing insistence that members toe the party line. The very idea of “voting your district” — which was alive and well when I was elected — became anathema within the Republican caucus. Simultaneously, the weaponization of the evangelical religious right and the organization of wealthy conservative donors was going on, largely behind the scenes, with money and organizing often used against moderate Republicans as well as Democrats.

Republican Party leaders fueled the shift to the right by promising results to their conservative base that they could not deliver: banning abortion, eliminating the deficit, slashing federal regulations, cracking down on L. G. B. T. Q. rights and greatly cutting taxes. Mr. Gingrich’s “Contract With America” — and the government shutdown it caused — set the stage for decades of unkept promises and primed primary voters to turn against the moderate and liberal elected officials who had once been a critical component of the Republican coalition, especially in the Northeast, when those officials could be readily blamed for not sufficiently supporting the party line.

As Republican voters and nominees adopted an increasingly extreme agenda, even a Republican Congress could not produce the results they had promised. While Republican officials delivered significant tax cuts for the very wealthy and, under George W. Bush, put numerous conservatives onto the federal bench, they failed to meaningfully relieve the tax burden for working- and middle-class people or to fully realize any of their culture-war goals, instead seeing same-sex marriage become the law of the land.

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[abc3643]

These failures drove a further rightward shift that resulted in the rise of the Tea Party. And when the Tea Partyers failed to stop President Barack Obama and his Affordable Care Act, we arrived at the 2016 presidential primaries and the rise of Donald Trump. The base of the party had become angry and alienated because the Gingrich-era promises had not been delivered.

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I believe that the current attempts to overthrow our democratic traditions will fail, but we must understand the successes produced by the right wing’s focus on control at all costs over governing.

Beyond Mr. Trump’s election, those successes include the numerous right-wing ideologues confirmed to federal judgeships, a major effort to restrict voting rights, the increasing presence of dark money in politics, the elimination of abortion rights and a lack of critical progress in combating the global climate crisis. Moderate figures in the Republican Party opposed many of these policies, from the abortion-rights supporters who were once part of the G. O. P. caucus to environmental advocates like John Anderson, the Illinois representative who ran for president as an independent in 1980.

Mr. Gingrich’s style of politics has informed much of what has come since. Under Mr. Trump and his acolytes, the emphasis on power and control has remained, at the expense not only of governing but also of decency.

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[abc3643]

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It may be too late for the Republican Party to again welcome moderate and liberal voices into its ranks. But the focus of moderate and liberal Republicans — both elected officials and the voters who supported us — was historically on governing to solve America’s critical problems, not on accruing control for its own sake. If the Republican Party cannot be an instrument of democracy, independent-minded moderates will do what we’ve always done: Vote our conscience, and vote for someone else.

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Peter Smith (@PeterPSmith), a Republican, represented Vermont in the House of Representatives from 1989 to 1991. He was the founding president of the Community College of Vermont and California State University, Monterey Bay, and was an assistant director general for education at UNESCO.

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So, there you go. An excellent history lesson from Mr. Smith. He calls out Newt Gingrich and he's right. And who did Newt Gingrich and Bush43's Karl Rove learn from? Lee Atwater.

[abc3643]

THIS PRETTY MUCH SUMMARIZES IT:

(From Mr. Smith's article...)

In 1950, Senator Margaret Chase Smith, a moderate Republican from Maine, attacked McCarthyism and its “four horsemen of calumny — fear, ignorance, bigotry and smear.” Republicans today seem to use Smith’s warning as an inspiration, projecting their own worst excesses upon their opponents.

>>> That's why DEMs and a lot of people are pissed-off. When someone constantly attacks you for a few decades, it's just a matter of time before you punch back.

A lot of young people, like @Sixgunsound and other young conservative males, don't see this because they weren't alive or have any memory of when times were normal.

[abc3643]

Trump exemplifies the end result of this 30+ year bullshit by the GOP: a mentality of abandonment of decorum by MAGA conservatives.

Trump still has considerable support despite all the growing evidence of his criminality.

TITLE: Trump Support Remains Unmoved by Investigations, Poll Finds
www.nytimes.com/.../...ld-trump-approval-poll.html

By Ruth Igielnik
Sept. 22, 2022
Updated 11:56 a. m. ET
The American public’s views of former President Donald J. Trump have remained remarkably stable across a number of different measures in recent months, even as he faces multiple investigations and as he remains a central figure in the midterm elections, according to the most recent New York Times/Siena College poll.

Voters held nearly identical views from those earlier in the summer on whether they had a favorable view of Mr. Trump, whether they thought he had committed serious federal crimes, and whom they would support in a hypothetical 2024 Trump-Biden matchup.

Overall, 44 percent of voters viewed Mr. Trump favorably, and 53 percent viewed him unfavorably.
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[abc3643]

I tried to write this in comments section of that NY Times article, but comments were closed when I submitted.
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He could perform a child sacrifice to Satan with it broadcast live all over the world and the MAGA ilk would still love him.

I know it may seem puzzling why Trump is so attractive to so many people but there's a simple psychological explanation.

Each of us has an inhibition center in the brain that prevents us from committing real or social suicide by saying or doing the wrong thing. In short, it keeps our id in check. But, Trump wasn't raised like the rest of us so he learned that his id can be safely unleashed and, all his life, he's never had to significantly pay for that.

So, those of us who must keep our ids in check still feel a dark frustration that we could not do or say what our id wants us to. But, instead, we can live vicariously through Trump who does not have this problem. He is the valve for so many people's anger and frustration. By supporting him, it enables a MAGA person's id to do something that they otherwise could or would not do themselves.

In short, he is their id incarnate and, through him, their id can live unencumbered.

[exitseven]

Have you read Esquire lately? i read it while I was waiting in CVS to get vaccinated. It was nothing but s liberal rag. I would not take it veery seriously.

[abc3643]

@exitseven No, I have not read Esquire. I don't read many magazines and pretty much just online stuff.

I have subscriptions to:
The New York Times
The Washington Post
The Wall Street Journal
The Athletic (sports journal)

I do filter out bias when reading by exorcizing "loaded words". I rarely bother with opinion columnists at NYT or WashPo because of bias. WSJ a little less so.
I pretty much read these for factual information or explanatory information. WSJ is rather good at that which makes it pricey subscription ($39/month for me) worth it.

[exitseven]

my father had a subscription to Esquire when I was a kid. It had lots of cool articles and stuff about sports cars and component stereo and men's fashion. It had satirical articles and was a good publication. Now id is been reduced to a liberal rag.

[abc3643]

@exitseven I believe it. Sometimes I've thought of subscribing to Utne Reader or Mother Jones, but I just do not want to deal with excessive liberal bullshit despite my liberal tendencies. Like I said, I don't bother with the opinion pages in the NYT or WashPo really because often it's just whiny liberal crap. Sometimes, it is insightful stuff like Paul Krugman, a Nobel-Prize-winning economist or Thomas Friedman, but others like Maureen Dowd, I just don't bother anymore. These left-biased opinionators are on the payroll at the NYT for the same reason Fox News exists - to drump up readership/ratings for the core audience.

WSJ is conservative and clearly so, but not MAGA-nutty. Sometimes their opinionators are worthlessly biased as well, but the WSJ is a very good newspaper as are the NYT and WashPo. WSJ is expensive - much more so than the other two and my inner skin-flint doesn't want to pay it, but the WSJ really shows its worth with some of their analysis and to get a more conservative business (not social conservative) perspective.

[Sixgunsound]

Because spoiled children who live in a world where it’s OK to hate people based on what they look like or what they think because they don’t have to face the consequences of their actions have thus far been able to get away with treating people who think differently from them the way they do. When you have the alleged leader of the party sending dog whistles to his supporters that it is not only acceptable but encouraged to get violent against people who don’t think like him, that’s just not a recipe for success even if he somehow did get legitimately elected, the margin by which that would have taken place is so thin that he did not have a mandate to be a radical. If anything his mandate was sit down shut up and spend about as much time in public as president as he did as candidate.

[Asker]

Gag needs to work on their AI bot alogrithm. 3 out of 4 answers picked as MHO turned out to all be liberal bashing conservatives.

[Dazed0N0Confused]

Because conservatives have taken away women's right to choose what is best for them when it comes to healthcare. Because conservatives don't respect other people's privacy behind closed doors & want to make LGBTQIA illegal. Because conservatives are fucking stupid for thinking that trickle down economics & giving less taxes to the wealthy benefits them. Because conservatives can't see that GOP members want to strip social security & Medicare/Medicaid because they have narrowed from it so much that they don't want to pay it back. Because conservatives don't see that the inflation/price gouging is, at this point, because corporations are greedy fucks who don't pay their employees enough to live without working 2/3 jobs. Because conservatives want to ban books & white wash history because it makes white people look bad.

I can keep going if you'd like.

[JDavid25]

-Abortion is not healthcare and there's plenty of women who also don't think so.

-I'm pretty sure Conservatives don't wanna make being LBGTQIA illegal.. If you are talking about things like the "Don't say bill" then I think maybe some education on the matter would work.

-Conservatives want less taxes for everybody, also the rich pay most of the taxes.. If you tax them anymore they'll find loopholes to skip out on it altogether..
-Stuff like Obama care and Medicaid made private insurance sky rocket.. So of course they would want to get rid of something that's making hard working people pay more money.
-That's not how inflation work.. Printing the people's tax dollars that don't exist is inflation.. You can thank Joe Biden.
-The last one is just made up, and blatantly is divisive and trying to vilify..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 Nobody's forcing people to have abortions, but people are forcing people not to have them.

Education is what the "don't say gay" bill interferes with.

No, they won't. Loopholes can be closed.

How old is Medicaid, now? How popular?

No, "Printing the people's tax dollars that don't exist is inflation" is not how inflation works. You really can thank Joe Biden. You must really hate that gas prices are going down again.

"The last one is just made up, and blatantly is divisive and trying to vilify."

"[Global Vision Bible Church pastor Greg Locke's] Trump-loving congregation tossed copies of Harry Potter and Twilight books into the fire, along with other items they were frightened of, including Ouija boards and tarot cards"
boingboing.net/.../...nd-other-demonic-titles.html

[JDavid25]

@goaded
-Plenty of women have been forced to have abortions, and it's messed with their bodies and mental health ever since.. Nobody forces you to have reckless sex and get pregnant..
-No it doesn't.. It's a parental rights bill.. Basically telling the school system to let their parents know what they are being taught and that no kids should be learning about inappropriate topics of gender and sexuality.
-They are called loopholes for a reason. Because they are a legal way to get out of something.. You can't close a loophole without a totalitarian law in place.
-Doesn't matter.. Point is, it messes with the people who work hard to get a good job so that they could pay for their own insurance. And it's more reliance on the government..
-G
And gas prices went up because of Joe Biden in the first place. And yes that's what inflation is.. Getting more into debt because the government is spending money we don't have, therefore causing prices to have to go up.
-Ooooh, one church or pastor is supposed to represent all Conservatives huh? LOL..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 No, they haven't, unless you mean the lack of support for new parents (no paid parental leave, etc.).

Those things were never happening anyway. Just like CRT and the new right-wing created "outrage" that also isn't happening.

"You can't close a loophole without a totalitarian law in place."
Of course you can. You pass another law that stops it.

"Doesn't matter." Meaning: you don't have an answer. Yes, obviously you should keep health care away from a percentage of the population so that they'll be desperate enough to take shitty jobs with not enough pay.

No, gas prices did not go up because of Biden, they went up across the whole world.

That book-burning pastor and his flock/marks are Republican voters. Show me liberals burning books.

[JDavid25]

@goaded
-Hehe.. I don't know how you would believe women aren't forced to have abortions. Plenty of families and SOs have pressured or forced women to get them. Also there's plenty of serviced designed to assist parents, but some of them have gotten burned down..
-If it weren't happening, then a law wouldn't have passed so that parents can have a say in what their kids are being taught.. Same with CRT.. They are definitely happening..
-It's a loophole because it's technically still legal, so no they would have a hard time closing it without seeming totalitarian..
-No, it's more like it doesn't matter how long it's been going on.. Government handouts have been happen for decades and yet continues to be one of the "Black" community biggest hindrances.
-Doesn't mean Biden isn't responsible for gas prices going up in America. Not soon after he got into office Gas prices steadily went up.. So I will not be thanking the guy and his administration who cause the problem in the first place.
-Yeah, and Democrats have censored people off of platforms which goes against Freedom of Speech, I don't put that on the whole Democratic/Liberal voters.

[goaded]

@JDavid25 "If it weren't happening, then a law wouldn't have passed"

Of course it would. But only by Republicans intent on fear-mongering about things that aren't happening. They keep their supporters angry about non-existent things to distract them from the ways they're being conned. In the case of the election lies, to remove the minimal protection of democracy from their pursuit of power.

[JDavid25]

@goaded "Of course it would. But only by Republicans intent on fear-mongering about things that aren't happening. They keep their supporters angry about non-existent things to distract them from the ways they're being conned. In the case of the election lies, to remove the minimal protection of democracy from their pursuit of power."

Projection much? That's all the Democrats did during covid.. And that's what the Democrats did during Trunps Presidency.. Fearmonger, smear, divide, etc.. Ron DeSantis seems like anything but a Fearmongerer... I mean lifting your state up from Lockdowns when many other states were still there doesn't seem like Fearmongering or trying to keep your base angry to me. And there was a lot of funny business going on in the election that was overlooked and still never looked into.. So, it definitely wasn't a lie.. The Democrats just tampered with an election and got away with it.

[goaded]

@JDavid25 "Projection much?" No. A million people died of covid in the US, and there's a huge difference between "tampering" to ensure people get to vote and tampering to stop people voting.

[JDavid25]

@goaded Not to downplay that, but that's a million over the course of two years and even those numbers are wonky at best.. We don't know if they even die of Covid or with Covid or they just tested for it when they died.. And tampering is tampering.. You don't tamper to ensure everybody gets the vote.. Somehow the changing over night to everybody's surprise screams honest election in people who hate Trumps eyes.. But hey we'll just overlook the fact that people think the Russian thing was legit, but think it's crazy to believe the election was tampered with..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 Great, so you'll deny the official covid death numbers. Why am I not surprised. The election was at the start of the Delta wave, before vaccines, 100,000 new cases every day, a thousand people a day dying in the US, and the numbers were rising exponentially. Changing rules to make it safer for people to vote made perfect sense. Nobody who wasn't eligible to vote got to vote, but many who rightly didn't want to risk their lives got to get their vote counted. I can see why you might not think that's a good thing, but it is.

And just recently it came out that Russia spent at least $300 million on election interference. It wasn't to help those country's democracies.

[JDavid25]

@goaded I didn't deny them, I said they were wonky.. Based on the evidence given.. And then I even said that that was over a multi year period.. 1 million people dying is no joke, but over the course of over 2 or 3 years isn't cause for alert.. Truth is Covid was never a deadly sickness and if the media didn't bombard us with news on it all the time, we wouldn't even know anything was happening.. Not to mention people are still getting Covid even though they have the "vaccines" widely available.. And ballots coming in, in the middle of the night is not "changing the rules".. I'm sure even they had a stop time for mail in voting, and by the time of the election they should have had all of the ballots.. Doesn't make sense.. It was all too sneaky, and not to mention the media was quick to call the states even though some weren't finished counting... At the very least there was something fishy about it.

And well that's a very vague piece of information.. Could mean anything in the gander scheme of things.. Fact is Hilary, Obama, Joe Biden, and the Democrats and Republicans who hated Trump all probably assisted in that Russia investigation.. Putting all that money into it, and as hard as they tried (or as they tried to make us think)... They found nothing but a phone call and a meeting.. Even Van Jones of CNN was caught saying that it was "a nothing Burger"..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 Of course you're denying them. And the severity of the disease. And repeating lies about the election. And the normal calling of states before all votes are counted. None of that shit stands up to scrutiny, and you won't be convinced by facts anyway, so I'm done for the day.

[JDavid25]

@goaded Yeah, so severe people had to be tested for it and many didn't even know they had it.. And no lies have been repeated, I watched the election live and saw the surprise on many of the commentary faces when some states came back to Joe Biden that were counting towards Trump.. Maybe you don't know how elections work. So nah, it's not normal for that to happen.. You haven't provided any facts so.. Have a good one..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 Yeah, and some people got it and died. That's the definition of a deadly disease. Your rejection of the 2020 election results is based on seeing a few people looking surprised by the results? That's awesome.

[JDavid25]

@goaded And many people got it and didn't.. Including me apparently.. So it was deadly to some people (mainly those who were already sick, and have underlying conditions.) The rest of us who were somewhat healthy and normal had nothing to worry about.. It was about as deadly as the common cold.. And no there's many more things, that happened that made me reject the results.. Just like Democrats rejected Trumps Presidency..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 "about as deadly as the common cold" FFS.

[JDavid25]

@goaded Hahaha.. Who's really the fearmongerer? I was never scared of Covid, and yep I still believe the election was hacked..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 Yes, because you've been misinformed or are simply a liar yourself.

[JDavid25]

@goaded Nah, I haven't brought into the fearmongering and numbers manipulation that the media is so keen on.. I'm also not a Liberal hellbent on keeping the narrative alive..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 It's always projection. Facts aren't a "narrative". The lies you're repeating are.

[JDavid25]

@goaded No projection from me.. I operate based on the truth..

[goaded]

@JDavid25 Funny.

[JDavid25]

@goaded Thanks man, I try my best. 😎👉..

[bayoubob]

@goaded People are forcing people to have abortions. It's called some idiot Mom and/or Dad saying to their knocked up Princess, you are too young, you are too stupid, you can't afford it, and if you want to continue living under my roof and not be homeless, you better get that kid aborted. So, then we have the next thing to think about. Which in my mind is totally justifiable. The knocked up Princess, who is so adorable in all her pictures and family home videos, harbors major resentment. Like, hardcore because one or both of her parents forced her to have an abortion. She becomes so pissed off that she has her 'would have been Baby Daddy', herself, or some other hitman kill one or both of her parents. Eye for an eye, tooth for tooth. I am totally fine with that. But, that's not the way it works. The law protects the parents from murdering her kid in this instance, but she's going to prison. That is FUCKED UP.

[bayoubob]

@goaded "No, gas prices did not go up because of Biden, they went up across the whole world." What the actual fuck does the rest of the world have to do with the price of tea in China when it comes to Biden shutting down everything that Trump did to not make us energy dependent? And how would that not effect the rest of the god damn world?

[bayoubob]

@goaded There is no talking to you. There is one point that can be made. Going back to Jimmy Carter. If you are Liberal, you literally have mental disease. Especially, when you tell us the racist boob of a gaffe machine who is the most popular PREZ of all times, cannot question it, at all, is totally doing fantastic. On top of that, if that Boob ran again vs Trump, you would still vote for the damn RACIST BOOB who has done nothing in his service of being a politician for 47 YEARS!

[bayoubob]

@goaded What makes you the NUMBER 1 RETARD I have ever single-handedly come across? You posted a picture of PALLETS BURNING? Why would you do that? Why would you ever post a picture of fire? It's so BIDENSQUE it creeps me out!!! BLM decimated your Dem Ran Shit Holes across the Country! CNN tells you, it's FIERY but MOSTLY PEACEFUL PROTEST! Libtards across the country will tell us, ACTUAL PEACEFUL protest doesn't work, so that's why it's justified. Tell us this. Why is every Metropolis now known as Dem Ran Shit Hole? Why does every Liberal idiot want to escape where they live and move to a RED AREA, regardless of whether or not they live in a posh neighborhood? Look at AOC, look at Ilhan Omar, look at Lori Lightfoot, Maxine Waters, Stacy Abrams, Nancy Pelosi, Gruesome Newsom? None of these BROADS seriously got voted in. NONE. How can I say that? It doesn't take a genius to know that. When you get ballz and make the commitment to move to a RED AREA, start thinking for yourself, really find out why you are escaping.

[bayoubob]

@goaded Fuck off with COVID. There's something else you haven't heard of! The opposite of SIDS. One of the new leaders of death, now known as SADS. SUDDEN ADULT DEATH SYNDROME. The left bent media don't tell you about that, they just want you to get jabbed, and thusly, get 18 boosters that do nothing, other than make people keel over.

[goaded]

@bayoubob You done with your fantasy rant?

What you're saying is that you don't see a difference between families advising their children and governments using the force of law.

Biden is not president of the world, and enegy prices have rocketed everywhere.

Blah... ad hominem.

Big fire, small books. You could simply have clicked on the link to the story. There's even a video there. boingboing.net/.../...nd-other-demonic-titles.html

More people die of heart disease evey year than even covid. The difference is covid practically didn't exist just three years ago. The rate of heart disease deaths increased by a fraction, from 165 to 166 in 2016, 2017, fell a bit for a couple of years to 164 and 162 in 2018 and 2019, then increased again to 168.2 in 2020 (before the vaccines came out). Covid went from 0 to 85 in 2020.

[Rania05]

I have conservative but as soon as I comment with them I gets verbal abuse and being told like 'You're using peers pressure' and 'That's it thr 21st century '
Like come on, I didn't force anything on them, why should be I condemned for casual mentions?
I just said things my parents and teachers taught me to think of and accepted when I became an independent thinker.

[Robbey]

Personally, I get as much hostility from conservatives for not being conservative enough as I do from liberals for being a conservative and especially a woman conservative. In both cases, it’s emotionally fragile people whose ego simply can’t handle disagreement, because they don’t really believe in anything. For them, “liberal” and “conservative” aren’t competing visions for the common good but identities intended to give (false) senses of superiority to shore-up insecurities and a lack of self-worth.

And this is all the result of the shift in the Democratic Party primarily under Bill Clinton in the 1990s. away from the economic populism which was the party’s common denominator for over 60 years to social liberalism as the common denominator. This, of course, directly led to a shift in the Republicans, orchestrated by Newt Gingrich, away from the fiscal conservatism which had been the party’s common denominator for decades in favor of social conservatism.

It may seem weird to younger people today, but until the early 1990s pro-life Democrats and pro-choice Republicans weren’t especially unusual. In 1980, both major presidential candidates were pro-life and both vice-presidential candidates were pro-choice. In 1992, all three major presidential candidates were pro-choice. And in both 1980 and 1992, it just wasn’t that serious.

[NamerOfStars]

Because it's not a matter of politics to them, but of religion: openly questioning their political statements- these days, even the statements of their political leaders- is challenging their core dogmas. And if you want to see what that does to people, just look at Salman Rushdie.

It's also why the hatred of Trump is so intense and unreasoning- the Democratic mindset says "WE are the party of the poor and the working class; the racial and sexual minorities HAVE to vote for us, or they're being brainwashed", and when those folks turn out en masse for a Republican, it's evidence that their faith in themselves is misplaced.

This trap of thinking isn't limited to liberalism, by the way; we've seen more conservative groups fall prey to the same nonsense many times over the centuries. It rarely ends well.

[USLegionary]

Jennifer Lawrence is full of shit, more likely her family stooped speaking to her. Like most celebrities she doesn't believe or in a lot of cases understand what she's saying. She's regurgitating the woke rhetoric because in Hollywood you have to if you want to keep working.

It's kind of like the George Floyd riots where you had all these ANTIFA liberal entitled privledged middle class white college kids out burning down black neighbourhoods and businesses to protest African Americans being oppressed.

https://youtu.be/l6HJ3qS4MXY

[normalice]

Of course we don't actually see any of that. The far right fake news just says we do because they know no one is stupid enough to vote republican based on merit. So the invite you to believe they have an abundance of victimhood and you can have some, too. This, again, is because Republicans have no policy ideas besides give the righ our money. Which, by the way, is such a garbage thing to do, and the fact that some people actually seem to want it is enough to just prefer not to talk to them. Brainwashed cultists are difficult to have normal conversations with.

[Anonymous]

It's because they understand power, and conservatives don't. Even as someone with more right-wing views, I realise that conservatives are idiots.

I see conservatives constantly talking about how they've lost liberal friends who they were fine with being friends with, and they can't understand why they'd leave because of different opinions.

The liberals don't see it that way, they don't see it as being simply different opinions, they see the right as the enemy.

They understand, as you can see in the comments here, that pro-life right-wingers want to remove their ability to have abortions. That's not just a different opinion, that's something which, if the right were to win, would affect their lives.

This is also why the culture only ever continues to move further and further left wing. This is why they win and conservatives lose. Conservatives conserve nothing, all they do is support the things leftists wanted 10 years ago.

[BJP21]

Women rights, Misappropriating the Religious Doctorine (You can not be a Christian and hate on groups of people such as LGBTQ, and other minority groups), Damages inflicted on American Democracy, Climate Change Denial, Contributors of Divided Government, Benefiting from a Pandemic, Racism (Hiring Steve Bannon was Trumps first mistake in office), Contributions come from elitist corporations and fossil fuel corporations, have 0 concept of what a sustainable living wage is... The list goes on...

[jongreat46]

The real question should be asked, why are conservatives so hostile and vicious towards liberals. You make us out to be your enemy and yet you get all bent out of shape when we treat you exactly how you treat us, you called us communist and yet you get bent out of shape for hillary calling you a basket of deplorables. You call us traitors and yet you get mad at Joe Biden for calling you a threat to democracy during his address to the nation, I am done being civil with you conservatives, treat people the way you want to be treated so if you treat us like an enemy then fine, we will treat you like an enemy also so don't get butt hurt like the little children that you are when we call you racist or a homophobe for your bigoted behavior.

[goaded]

The leaders of the right have been calling Democrats everything under the sun for the last quarter century, currently accusing all of them of being paedophiles. What's not to like?

They used to use the word socialist a lot more, but since Republicans used it to describe everything good the government did for people for the last 90 years, it's become quite popular.

[DryGermanGuy]

www.theguardian.com/.../proud-boys-document-jan-6-violence

[goaded]

@DryGermanGuy "The document was obtained from a Proud Boys member by the extremism reporter Andy Campbell as he researched his new book, We Are Proud Boys: How a Right-Wing Street Gang Ushered in a New Era of American Extremism. The book will be published on Tuesday. Campbell shared the document with the Guardian." Timely.

But both sides!1!!!11

[goaded]

@DryGermanGuy The Asker: " The capital riot in which they were led in by police with it being confirmed that many of those rioting to be ANTIFA members. There is even video footage of a CNN reporter going in with them stating "we do it" to one of the leading ANTIFA members. "

[DryGermanGuy]

Yeah, right! I would finally like to see the names of these ANTIFA members participating in the riots.

[goaded]

@DryGermanGuy They can never name names. Never. It would let you check.

[exitseven]

democrat policies are so bad have totally ruinied America in less than two years. The Axis powers were not able to accomplish the damage they have caused during WW2. Eventually there will be a terrorist attack and Biden and the FBI will be too busy going after Trump supporters that the terrorists will be able to march right through the southern border if they are not here already and plant a dirty bomb in Times Square on new Years Eve,

[blissinanarchy1]

This happens in both directions but a confirmation bias will prevent you from seeing those you affiliate with do it. Conservatives are extremely hostile towards liberals. Other Conservatives won’t notice it nor care that much. I see car decals consistently to execute, neuter, destroy liberals. As a liberal, I see other liberals come at conservatives, but only because I purposely be aware of it.

[Asker]

can you find me examples of students being kicked out of class for having a biden flag up, people being attacked for wearing biden hat/t-shirt, people being banned from attending public spaces for their political views or liberals having their comment be shadow banned or outright banned on social media websites?

[Agagagagaga]

https://youtu.be/2OryoEo4F9E

[Agagagagaga]

https://youtu.be/kReAGUZ5HrE

[Agagagagaga]

https://youtu.be/vDhN8un6eH4

[blissinanarchy1]

@Agagagagaga Easy. BLM is a majority Liberal movement. A small percentage gets violent, the whole group gets labeled as terrorist. Just like MAGA.

[Agagagagaga]

They were burning cities man. Wtf. Or did we just imagine all of that?

My goddamn city had riots with multiple store fronts vandalized and their windows smashed out. You can thank BLM for that. Didn’t see a single goddamn MAGA hat there.

Look man, just accept that BLM is an i incredibly shitty sus organization that promotes violence and looting—but it’s okay if you chat Black Lives Matter while you’re destroying a bus stop. It’s all for racial equity. Right?

[D-Pad_Chad]

They're a threat to their power and greed. That's really about it. Some conservatives aren't any better (RINO's) but without getting into long drawn out discussions about news indoctrination, the corruption of children, etc... that would just see more people on here reply that, well frankly don't know their heads from their ass, I'll just reiterate. Yeah it's power and greed.

[HighValue]

Anyone who supports democrats deserves death at this point. ALL of them, even former friends and relatives. They are so immoral that there is no coming back for them.

And the hypocritical stupid ones will claim that is "hostile" AFTER democrats already supported lots of violence, theft, robbery, and harm to children for years. They deserve no mercy.

[Avicenna]

As you can see from the comments from leftists here (including at least one who isn't a US citizen and doesn't even live in the US). leftists have dehumanized conservatives, which reflects the Democrats' desire to criminalize political differences.

@NamerOfStars had a great explanation as well. Democrats can't stand political pluralism.

[eightyeighthgender]

Ridiculously loaded question.

The question should be "how did U. S politics become so divisive"

the answer is "There's money in creating division".

Good people on both sides of the political spectrum loose.

Bad billionaires win.

[Anonymous]

What defines leftist in modern politics is the simple fact that they don't trust anyone to speak, think, act, or do anything for themselfs.

This is why they wish the state to do everything for everyone, for they feel they can control the State and therefore thou it control everyone else.

[Agape93]

Don't forget conservatives actively stole rights from millions, have bombed and shot up abortion clinics and doctors and patients, have sent bombs to congress members and media personalities, tried to kidnap and execute a governor etc etc.

[RiseofArtemis]

Sure, don't forget the democrat who was arrested that wanted to kill a republican politician.

[Agape93]

And one who wanted to kill a SCOTUS judge

[Surely]

I find it amazing how people only see and believe what they want to see and believe!
Whatever happened to agreeing to disagree and moving on with your life?
Or even a respectful debate! Which usually only turns into a heated argument in today’s world!
I do find that Democrats in my area are the most vocal in their views.

[QuietVerbena]

Both sides are equally hostile on the extremes

[pass_the_celery98]

People won't realize or agree with what you say because they have submerged their allegiance with one political party. But I know there will be a day that arrives when people get sick and tired of the system, of who they continue voting for. Democrats and Republicans have the same agenda. Sure, Democrats may spend more but when people understand the monetary system they will realize money is valueless, so printing more money is just a temporary bandage. It's funny how some people in this comment section call Democrat supporters "snow flakes", meanwhile those same people get triggered if someone questions capitalism, therefore I can turn around and use the same redundant words they use. I am not a capitalist supporter, not a socialist, not a communist, not a democrat supporter or a republican supporter. People will read this and think Im an idiot, I'm a retard because I have not aligned myself with the norms of today. If people took 1 hour of their day within 1 year and Google - empires that have collapsed throughout time, what happened during revolutions and the truth about politics and money maybe people will realize. But nah, thats unlikely because the constant bickering, backlash and bitching will keep spinning. By me saying this, if someone lashes out that only proves to me how lost people are nowadays. I'm a guy who has studied politics for my undergrad in university for 5 years, doing a Masters in policy and may even pursue a law degree.

[Sandeeppingping]

Everyone's hostile towards everyone, I'm a conservative I can still admit that, I couldn't fathom allowing someone to defend blm right in front of me, the same way I'd be called a racist and a nazi for that exact statement

[slatyb]

"Yet, we don't see this much of hate and animosity from the right." Except for trying to overturn a Presidential election, threatening elected Democrats, attempting to kidnap the governor of Michigan, killing people with vehicles...

[lightbulb27]

The key issues they identify with are intensely emotional, they are very sensitive people, and they view the other side as the enemy in their perspective.

[Anonymous]

This must be a joke when MAGA hate rallies are nothing but gatherings for fascists and domestic terrorists.

[Rangers]

It wasn't Maga people burning the country and killing innocent people for fun every day since 2020 and Maga people don't control all banks, social media, the internet as a whole, cellphone services, hospitals and federal agencies doing as they please.

It's the leftist communists that do those things

[Guardian45]

Oh oh. Here come the Trolls!😳😂

[Sirenboobzilla]

Pfffffffffff yeah, right. I'm not gonna go as far as to defend the left. But the right is far from innocent

[FunkyMonkee]

When you don't have any brains, violence is your only resource. If chimps discover something they don't like, do they sit and discuss it rationally? No, they throw sticks and rocks at it! So goes it with people of low intelligence.

[FunkyMonkee]

And, did you notice they ALWAYS accuse US of the violence they do?

[josephinelcajon]

Both sides have and we are more divided than ever on any and all issues. Its mostly out of spite! I feel we are doomed! "Divided we shall fall"

[Anonymous]

Every radical from both sides is hostile toward and blames the other side... if you can't see that than your ideology has blinded you to seeing fault in that which you have faith

[Alwayreckles93]

I don't care about politics. I just focus more in God.

[FilmGuy93]

The inmates have taken over the asylum. We tried having empathy for the crazies instead of letting them know that they are crazy.

On behalf of all ethical Democrats; I'm sorry.

[SmokinAces2000]

“We don’t see this much hate and animosity from the right” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[DryGermanGuy]

My reaction exactly. That anon guy (obviously) is NUTS.

[Agagagagaga]

https://youtu.be/lFWDj3YA9i8

https://youtu.be/kReAGUZ5HrE

It’s all in our heads. Huh.

[monorprise]

@DryGermanGuy @SmokinAces2000 What Anon guy?

[Googlemyahoo]

My life would be ruined if Jennifer Lawrence didn’t approve of my politics ! Who is she to judge? She spent years gargling Weinsteins mayonnaise for movie roles

[Anonymous]

I am neither a democrat nor a republican, and I think you are wrong. There is just as much animosity toward liberals.

[Opinion Owner]

I will add though that the difference is that liberal hatred for conservatives is more socially accepted due to the overwhelmingly liberal nature of the mainstream media and Hollywood.

[pass_the_celery98]

I'm glad you said this.

[Opinion Owner]

@pass_the_celery98 We need more honesty from people on both sides of the political spectrum today.

[pass_the_celery98]

I think people are brain washed to believing they have to pick a side. That's what governments and politicians want. I may not agree with every life style choice people make in this world. But I don't care if someone is gay or straight, atheist or religious. People want a roof over their head, employment opportunities, food and clean water. But this system today, it is driving people to brink of insanity or sheer anger. People should ask themselves despite our differences, how come we cannot find some common ground? That's not good enough for governments and political parties. That's why when I look at the US, they spend trillions on war and warfare (guns, tanks, etc.) on the potential of "foreign" invasion. But I think the downfall of America will be domestic rather then international.

[Opinion Owner]

@pass_the_celery98 I agree with every word. We as a nation will fall divided and we are already dangerously close.

[Asker]

Let's not pretend that your not a liberals. Please the dishonesty.

[pass_the_celery98]

To the asker of this post what is wrong with you? You are going based on an assumption when both of us in this conversation agreed with each other, we don't support either party. So liberals viewed as morons and republicans viewed as sociopaths? Is that the basis of your post on GAG Asker? I have studied politics for 6 years - undergraduate and graduate studies. I am not going to get into a war of words with you Asker because that's what you want. And this is why when World War III happens I am not pledging allegiance to these destructive ideologies, I will never fight a war so the elites sit back while innocent people fighting a barbaric war are killed. I am muting this post going forward so I don't have to get notified. One day the truth will be revealed, until then, people will continue complaining... alright go ahead, i'll do something else in the meantime like play basketball or read a book or focus on my job and studies.

[Opinion Owner]

@Asker Nope, not a liberal, nor am I a conservative, although I'm closer to that end of the political spectrum. Stop being a tool.

[RolandCuthbert]

Yeah dude GaG is persecuting you for being a fake conservative.

You are a victim man!!!

[Sonorous]

Probably because they link their political status to their identity, morality, etc.

[TroyDT]

Politics is toxic. Many on both sides make caricatures of the other side, then despise the straw men and women that they have set up in their minds.

[jimmy2]

They are scared of us due to we have the votes to kick their ass out of House, Sente and soon the President and vice. It's starts in a couple weeks hello Midterm let's show Democratic the power of a real and true vote

[legalboxers]

mhmmm

[Guardian45]

Bro, it's time to check the dosages on your medications. You're clearly having delusions.

[llorando]

News flash, both sides are hostile towards each other.

[maximumpower]

Two way street on some occasions.

Lack of enforcement.

[OddBeMe]

You have to admit conservatives have become more vehement sine Trump.

[LadiesFavoriteToy]

Because they are the most racist and evil of all people.

[BLP11520]

People who are wrong thinking being rude and loud makes them better.

[Anonymous]

The left sees the right as evil. The right sees the left as misguided. That is the reason.

[supercutebutt]

You sound like a snowflake. Grow sum ballz?

[Anonymous]

When celebrities get involved in politics, it ruins it for me.

[Anonymous]

You have that thought backwards.

[_Just_A_girl_]

Tv brainwashing

[ZenJen444]

🤣 did you forget the capital riots? Knock it off

[ZenJen444]

You're delusional

[Asker]

you watch cnnn

[ZenJen444]

Grow up

[TroyDT2]

And vice versa, because politics is toxic.

[In_Trance]

For the same reason Republicans are

[Jamie05rhs]

Adam who?