Does this settle the debate over whether trans women are women?

[joeldalton]

The government doesn't think so when it's time to become cannon fodder

https://www.sss.gov/register/who-needs-to-register/#p7

[normalice]

No. The committee assigned to determine if women should be required to register in the draft was also split along party lines with all democrats voting yes of course they should, but all Republicans voting no because then they'd lose a narrative to enrage their base with.

[joeldalton]

your dating pool is gonna shrink when all the trannies head off to Ukraine.

[normalice]

I get that it makes you feel better to entertain such fantasies but does it truly not bother you that the situations you imagine aren't called into existence? It would bother me, but I suppose an appreciation for mutual a understanding may have a causal relationship with an appreciation for an objective understanding after all 😂

[Calenderagressive]

Mate my dating pool is alottttt fucking bigger then you'res.

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive only because you’re fine with sucking dick.

[Calenderagressive]

But i mean specifically females if i were to include men aswell you're getting double destroyed

[Andridaca]

Trans-humanism is, in my (uneducated) opinion, a personality disorder. Unless they have certain birth defects, they mentally ill. I absolutely don't intend to insult anybody, and I understand why my opinion can be percieved as an insult.

I absolutely do not support prejudice against trans folk, and I'de rather help them over anything else. No, I am not talking about traditional conversion therapy, which is obviously mentally damaging. If anything, reversion therapy, which would be completely different from conversion therapy. This is the most that I can discuss about the issue before I contemplate it and study more.

[Andridaca]

Thank you for MHO. 😅

[Calenderagressive]

Reversion therapy and conversion therapy is the same thing...

[Sour-rose]

I betchu $60 it will not due to men wanna fk something they know is a woman, not as a woman

I'll drop my cashapp for you when you get 60 wankas arguing with you ya wrong

[Smashingdoozy]

So you pick and choose when to believe the government?

[joeldalton]

What you don’t believe in science?

[Calenderagressive]

@joeldalton if it is science why aren't hundreds of biologist condemning the trans movement?

Give me more then ten examples with full written articles that have not had a counter agrument to them.

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive someday maybe you can have a dick cut out of your arm skin and become a man, too.

[Calenderagressive]

One Not how it works two why do you think you get to decide medical decisions for complete strangers?

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive just trying to help you out since you are acting like a woman.

[Calenderagressive]

Huh? What's wrong with being a women?

So fucking what if I'm acting like one at least I'm not a delusion nazi I'm waiting for you to find out I'm a bisexual aboriginal person so you can throw more slurs at me

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive being a woman is great if you’re born a woman. If you’re a man and acting like a woman, that’s pathetic.

[Calenderagressive]

But, why?

What's wrong with that?

[Calenderagressive]

Is it because I'm different?
Nothing wrong with acting like a women, misogynistic pig.

[Calenderagressive]

There's no such thing as acting like a women, unless calling you out for you stupid bullshit is.

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive of course there’s a thing as acting like a man or acting like a woman. Evolution and genetics have crafted these behaviors for thousands of years.

[Calenderagressive]

Wrong. Try again please?

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive lmao. I’ll need 50 peer reviewed studies written by astrophysicists telling me I’m wrong.

[Calenderagressive]

Not related.

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive you tried

[Smashingdoozy]

@joeldalton science believes in trans people. There's literal scientific hypotheses about why science thinks it happens. So yes I believe in science. It would be strange to not as a person studying the human brain and emotions.

You however pick and choose what you believe according to your agenda.

You can choose to agree or disagree with whatever you want but don't expect others to follow suit. Literally nobody cares what you as an individual thinks about trans people. You are insignificant.

[joeldalton]

Apparently, you do because you couldn't help yourself from replying with your nonsense.

[Smashingdoozy]

Nope I do not pick and choose. I have made that abundantly obvious.

[joeldalton]

lmao. Sure you don't.

[Smashingdoozy]

Prove me wrong 🙂 I'll wait.

[joeldalton]

The government is correct to restrict abortions.

[Smashingdoozy]

But not correct to enforce mask wearing or vaccinations? You're only proving my point here.

[joeldalton]

You just said you don’t pick and choose. So you agree with my statement?

[Smashingdoozy]

Nope. I don't take the governments word on anything.

[joeldalton]

Lmao. Except when it comes to mask wearing and vaccine mandates.

[Smashingdoozy]

I believe in science and medical professionals... I wore masks before and long after the government advised to...

[joeldalton]

Lmao. And shot mandates for a shot that was never tested on its ability to prevent infection?

[Smashingdoozy]

I'm not going to argue with you about the efficacy or process of an emergency vaccine because I've done that before and if you can't get it through your thick skull by now it's never going to go though. Again believe whatever you want to believe but your opinions don't change mine nor do they change the facts as much as you wish it would.

Now are you going to prove me wrong or just waste my time with this pointless back and forth?

[joeldalton]

Right. Since you hate facts, here’s that Pfizer executive admitting that they didn’t test the effectiveness of the shots for the prevention of transmission of Covid-19. And since you do believe in vaxx mandates and also believed in the government when they said it would stop the spread, I did prove that you pick and choose what you want to believe from the government. Easy peasy.

twitter.com/.../1579830040858329089

[Calenderagressive]

@joeldalton actually I'm friends with one of the scientists who made it, and it was tested and it worked

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive lmao. Sure you are. So you’re telling me the Pfizer exec is lying?

[Calenderagressive]

Yeah...

[Smashingdoozy]

Wow he said something everyone with a brain already knew? The goal of the trials was not to test transmission. It was to test efficacy. Testing transmission isn't easily done in enclosed ideal conditions.
Congratulations you proved absolutely nothing yet again.

[joeldalton]

@Smashingdoozy oh yeah you chowderheads are pretending it was never sold to prevent disease. so for a vaccine that doesn’t stop transmission, you supporting government mandates is at the very least immoral. Thanks for playing.

[Smashingdoozy]

Prevention and transmission are two completely different tests.

The vaccine does prevent people from getting the virus. Of course it doesn't prevent all. No vaccine is 100% effective against infection or transmission.

Nobody said I supported government mandates.

[joeldalton]

These vaccines were sold at. 99%+ effective at preventing infection and transmission. Period.

[Smashingdoozy]

And at the time that is what was correct. It's incredibly normal for efficacy to drop in real world scenarios.

But I'm not going to continue arguing with you about this BS. Move on already

[joeldalton]

Lol, no it wasn’t correct. Your ego won’t let you admit you were lied to.

[Calenderagressive]

Sure us...

Biology ain't black and white

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive If you got your dog the rabies shot and then got 3 more rabies boosters within 18 months, and then your dog got rabies…you’d have some questions.

[Smashingdoozy]

I would considering the rabies shot is 100% effective.

The covid 19 vaccines were never said to be 100% effective

[Smashingdoozy]

Im like pretty certain none of the covid vaccines were given with certainty that they were any more than 98% effective. Efficacy dropped as more people took the vaccine because science then figured out who it did and didn't work so well for.

Not every body has the same response to a vaccine. This is fairly basic science.

[joeldalton]

Efficacy dropped because the 98% was a lie.

[Calenderagressive]

Idiot

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive Sorry you can’t admit you were lied to.

[Calenderagressive]

Unrelated but do you got a phd in nuclear psychics?

[joeldalton]

@Calenderagressive do you even have an elementary understanding of grammar?

[Staximus]

Womanhood is not a product of mental delusions and plastic surgery. You have to be born a woman. That's science.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Staximus i think what you're looking for it the word female. Not woman as that is gender not sex. They are different. Which is scientifically proven. Majority of people don't even know their chromosomes therefore they don't actually know their sex. Even if they did is it really that hard to believe with how insane our brains are that someone could feel like their body doesn't feel right to them. You don't have to understand something for it to be real.

Fact of the matter is that trans people exist whether you believe them or not. Your opinions don't matter.

[Staximus]

@Smashingdoozy you are trying to manipulate language to your advantage. Gender and sex are the same thing. I can call myself a tree and fuck trees but that doesn't make me a tree. Stop desecrating the sanctity of womanhood with your liberal bullshit doubletalk.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Staximus would you call a prepubescent child a man or woman? Or a boy or girl?

[Staximus]

@Smashingdoozy once again with your retarded liberal doubletalk. Stop making a fool of yourself. When somebody says they "identify as" a woman, it means they think their gender sex is female. It's not. You can't be a man and a woman at the same time, that's called batshit crazy. Stop being a politically correct snowflake and trying to validate people's false delusions. A man is not a woman and a woman is not a man. If you were born with a vagina your gender or sex is female, when you're a kid you're a girl, when you're an adult you're a woman. And the same thing goes for males boys men. Sorry, that's biology, that's science, that's the facts since time began. Playing stupid word games to make delusional mental patients happy just to spare their feelings isn't going to change that. They can fuck who they want, dress how they want, call themselves whatever they want, whatever. Do you realize how stupid you sound, really? Like I said before, I can dress like a tree, act like a tree, fuck trees, but that doesn't make a fucking tree. It just makes me a tree fucker. Biologically I'm not a tree. Pull your head out of your ass.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Staximus are you a cis male telling me how trans people think? I'm sure you've literally never had an actual conversation with a trans person or taken the time out of your life to even do an ounce of research into it. I'm sure all you've seen is biased comments by uneducated people.

There are more than 2 sets of sex chromosomes. Majority of people don't know theirs.

You're the snowflake here, complaining and being bothered by random strangers because they don't meet your 5th grade science ideas.

Highly suggest reading some actual papers not tweets, YouTube videos or Facebook posts by far right extremists.

[Staximus]

Ok, only retard liberals say "cis".

[Staximus]

I'm pretty sure most people that have their tits and dicks chopped off are not chromosomal chimeras or xx males, they are just crazy. You're grasping at science to justify their behavior, so you're a pseudo scientist, a mental midget.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Staximus so science is now a retard liberal? Interesting since you were just trying to use said science to justify your opinions.

[Staximus]

Can you just stop trying to justify whatever the liberal politically correct narratives are and do some real thinking in life?

[Staximus]

@Smashingdoozy try thinking for yourself and not just going along with whatever narrative is politically correct for liberals to think

[Smashingdoozy]

@Staximus I do think for myself. Myself prefers being positive and not a Debbie fucking downer who hates people for absolutely no reason.

[Staximus]

You seem like a person that just sucks up and embraces the official government or media narrative and doesn't question anything you're told. You should question everything.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Staximus is this post not about the government telling you what to believe? By your logic you should be questioning...

[joeldalton]

@Smashingdoozy no, it's the government telling you sathat they really know what the truth is, despite the bullshit they pretend when they are virtue signaling. Just like when you'd see them not wearing masks as soon as they thought the cameras were turned off, but lectured you on wearing one. Just like they never stop flying in private jets when they lecture you on climate change.

[Smashingdoozy]

So you'll believe the government when the government says something that aligns with YOUR agenda. That is confirmation bias NOT questioning authority/government. You'll literally search the internet for a few tiny pieces of information just to have your "ah ha" moment. Does it really make you feel that good? Perhaps you should find a better hobby 💀 one that enriches your brain rather than filling it with all this toxicity.

[joeldalton]

@Smashingdoozy are you mentally deficient or do you have problems with reading comprehension? I clearly explained that they know the truth but bullshit to you lefty’s and you lap the bullshit up

[Smashingdoozy]

Yeah all I get from that is you actually trust the government when it suits you. Can't help you if you don't see what a fuckery that is.

It's also funny how you'll immediately question a persons intelligence when they're getting to you. 💀you're so predictable.

[joeldalton]

@Smashingdoozy I think you might be as dumb as a box of rocks. I am telling you for the third time that the government is telling you the truth when they’re not bullshitting you on TV but if you want to continue to believe the lies have At it

[Smashingdoozy]

😂😂 you have so much faith in the government 😂😂 poor dude. Have fun with that

[joeldalton]

@Smashingdoozy I fully understand that they mark you behind your back when you buy their bullshit you can continue to buy their bullshit but that’s on you

[joeldalton]

Mock

[Smashingdoozy]

Okay 😂😂😂 whatever you say is right😂😂😂

[joeldalton]

Bless your heart

[Calenderagressive]

@Staximus so how can someone be born a woman? If they have a penis are they a man? If they have the xx chromosome are they a woman?

[Calenderagressive]

Also yeah i do have a elementary understanding of grammar but i think having a phd in nuclear physics is abit more impressive

[WhiteBoyChill]

“US citizens or immigrants who are born male and changed their gender to female are still required to register.”

So in other words, trans women aren’t women because they are still legally considered men.

[joeldalton]

Bingo.

[Stoner710]

No because humans don’t assign sex or gender at birth it’s nature that assigns sex and gender at birth. Nature Besides whether you’re a man or a woman if you have a penis you are a man if you have a vagina you are a woman is what defines a man or a woman so Kaitlyn Jenner is a man and Ellen page is a woman

[Calenderagressive]

Are intersex people men or women?

[Stoner710]

@Calenderagressive you would have to look at the chromosomes some show more male traits and some show for female traits so you would have to DNA test hermaphrodite in order to tell if there more on the male side or female side. It’s a birth defect. You could just call them hermaphrodites and be done with it

[Calenderagressive]

They got both...

Are they men or women?

Also if you believe there's two chromosomes this conversation is over.

[Stoner710]

@Calenderagressive there not both there men with micro penises or there women with huge clits it’s a genetic mutation.

by the way yes there are only 2 chromosomes that determine male or female, there’s obviously 23 chromosomes for the rest of the body

[Calenderagressive]

Sorry I would like to talk to someone with more then a middle schooler understanding of biology

[snackthatsmilesback]

Lol pretty sure the government is not the authority on this topic. It's usually what people are trying to change because they think it's wrong some way, like trying to change the abortion ruling, or this thing here. Nobody I know gets their ethical or biological standard of truth from the government. They apply their already acquired standards to the government.

[Staximus]

If you were born with a dick you are not a woman and never will be- No matter how delusional you are or how many psychotic self-mutilation surgeries you get. I can call myself a tree and stand there with my arms up and fuck trees but that doesn't make me a fucking tree, it just makes me a tree fucker. Self mutilation is and has always been a sign of mental illness.

[Calenderagressive]

Man half of terfs agruments come from nazis

[Staximus]

@Calenderagressive womanhood is sacred, you have to be born into it. It is not a product of delusion and plastic surgery. Long live the terfs

[Calenderagressive]

Bruhhhhhh you sounding like a nazi...

[Sargentcaptain]

And just like that, Democrats suddenly remembered what 'woman' means.

[Calenderagressive]

Sure...

[AviatorTom]

No, according to the link, Selective Service maintains the definition of Male and Female (not Men and Women) to be their birth status, which means that born-males are required to register for the draft, should one be instituted in the future.

[Sixgunsound]

Gender is another made-up item to fight about. Why can’t we just stick to biological sex and be done with it?

[Sixgunsound]

I don’t see the need for an unlimited number of demons pixies fairies or other mythological creatures being a “gender”. There’s nothing wrong with being straight or gay or lesbian, can we please just stick to biological sex?

[Calenderagressive]

So close, yet so far

[slatyb]

If people could declare themselves exempt from selective service registration, many would. Why not?

[OddBeMe]

Ehh, the IRS does ultimately decide whats a religion and what isn't.

But again, society or social norms are not science or govt who like to categorize for easiness.

[PatriceONeal]

Not until men have abused ALL the womens records and achievements, then women will start to care. Absolutely genius stuff from feminists.

[Sixgunsound]

Genius stuff from a Marxist movement. Did you expect anything different?

[PatriceONeal]

@Sixgunsound I hoped so, before my mid twenties I didn't look into it. I had hoped women had honor and integrity before I learned about how women really operate, (hypergamy) and the blue pill disney fantasy doesn't happen in the west with hookup culture and the anti family sentiment In the culture.

[AngryCarl]

As far as I know the only people debating it are weirdos and SJWs.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

For frogs sure, it’s natural. Only retards would actually confidently begin such things

[Calenderagressive]

NOOOOOOOO, YOU'RE ALREADY TOO FAR GONE

[Dinosaursandanime65]

@Calenderagressive You can’t seriously be trying to argue that a girl with a flat chest and strap on dildo is a boy

[Dinosaursandanime65]

That’s like saying alligators came from dinosaurs

[Calenderagressive]

Not what being trans is...
With surgery you can basically replicate a women and man

[Calenderagressive]

I would recommend Actually joining some trans subreddits and just read some posts

[Calenderagressive]

-_- they did...

[Dinosaursandanime65]

@Calenderagressive Now you’re just trying to make me force myself to violently vomit out my entire nervous system. Having extra skin doesn’t make it any different. A peach tree with no peaches is still a peach tree

[Calenderagressive]

Mate you're gonna turn into a literal nazi

[Dinosaursandanime65]

@Calenderagressive What does being able to tell the difference between naturalistic and abomination have to do with hating Jews?

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Castration and cosplaying Alstolfo is totally good compared to mass murder 💀🦖🌊

[Dinosaursandanime65]

That does make sense right? I do know what I’m saying, I’m just not sure if I said it correctly

[Calenderagressive]

Well if you're not one yet, you're gonna be.

[Calenderagressive]

No because you're using literal nazi agruments...

[Dinosaursandanime65]

@Calenderagressive how is this a Nazi argument? That’s like saying “retard” is a slur

[Dinosaursandanime65]

Actually never mind. My standards are too high for this

[Calenderagressive]

It is a slur...

[Calenderagressive]

Trans women are women cope with it

[joeldalton]

The government disagrees.

[Calenderagressive]

The government is wrong

[joeldalton]

Apparently not. Women have never had to register for the draft.

[Calenderagressive]

-_- why are you so detached from reality JUST DIE OFF ALREADY

[joeldalton]

Because I’m correct. And the truth will always survive.

[Calenderagressive]

You're not, you're BRAINWASHED, BRAINWASHED I SAY BRAINWASHED!

[joeldalton]

Bring it up with the draft board.

[Calenderagressive]

What will they're agrument be?
Recycled homophobia?
Because i can just recycle counter agruments.

[Calenderagressive]

Also why does the government get to decide decisions of complete strangers?

[joeldalton]

It’s crystal clear that trans women are men, and the draft board knows it. All the bullshit goes out the window when you want to send boys to the meat grinder, lol.

[jimmy2]

You have a dick you are a man

[Calenderagressive]

So intersex people are men?