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It depends on exactly what you mean.
Clearly, men and women are born with different plumbing.
Many *also* feel that men and women are born with different brains -- that there are fundamental differences in the brain the same way there are fundamental differences in things like height or muscle development. There's a pretty good amount of support for this -- there have been differences found in structures like the corpus callosum, which is larger in women, and in spatial visualisation areas, which are larger in men.
If you look at the ultimately sad case of David Reimer , you'll find a lot of support for the idea that mental gender is indeed determined at birth and is not simply a matter of socialization. That is, if you raise a boy as though he were a girl, he'll typically reject it.
Here's the thing, though: research suggests that in trans individuals the structural differences we see in the brain may more closely resemble the gender they associate with. In the brain, the trans woman might actually physically be a woman.
And it makes perfect sense -- one thing we know about delicate systems is that due to variation, it's almost an inevitability that two things (brain sex and bodily sex) will occasionally be mismatched.
This doesn't really qualify as a "mental illness" in a standard sense -- you can't really treat it very well with just psychology, and it's from birth, not trauma.
People who rely on judgements like "trans women can't have children" are failing to realize they're setting up what amounts to a temporary justification. Transition technology was terrible 20 years ago. It's better today, and will improve. Fairly soon it may be impossible to tell the difference, especially if you allow for women that may be infertile or not experience periods. As it progresses further and trans individuals do not need constant hormone treatments, relying on cell DNA tests to determine if they're XX or XY will seem much more specious.
I don't personnally care what someone chooses to want to be identified as.
But I do need to be informed ahead of time if they are expecting to date someone who may not expect them to be trans.
If a man is dating "carly" and on date number 2 wanting to get hot and heavy - the man has a right I feel to not have to be concerned about reaching down a down feeling carly's penis - and only then finding out "carly" used to be a carl - and that carl can never have kids. It would be wildly inappropriate to the partner not to let them know way in adv of even date number 1 if they know they are trans and the partner does not.
Vice versa if genders are flipped. Same goes if someone is gay and not yet figured it out yet but does know deep down - imagine being the female three years into marriage with a kid - then your spouse only then says they're gay - or only then tells you they're trans - apart from being decietful to them - that could seriously fuck someones life up permenently.
Trans people - separate of how they may enjoy choosing to act - or who they may chose they enjoy being attracted to - should always be made to compete in their own biological preset sports gender.
It would be hugely unfair for someone who is male to say a day before female olympics "oh I feel like being a female today" and then just slaughtering a the compatition and breaking every single female olympic record in a day.
It's funny how society allows trans women to be 'real women,' but actual biological women are chest-feeders and birthing people. Go liberalism for taking us into another form of female oppression, and putting free tampon dispensers in male bathrooms👍
How many times is this going to be asked? This must be the 100th time this year so far.
Too many boys played with Barbie Dolls and girls with toy guns it seems. 🤷♀️😝😂🤣
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No, because they’re not,
A real woman has ovaries a womb and a vagina a trans woman has none of that.
A real woman can breastfeed her baby a trans woman cannot.
A real woman can give birth a trans woman cannot.
A real woman has periods a trans woman does not.
A real woman doesn’t need surgeries and hormones to be a woman because she is a woman.
So no a trans woman is not a real woman like a trans man isn’t a real man.
Oh for fuck's sake. The answer is unquestionably no.
Only through the "miracle of modern science", through drugs and plastic surgery, can a person be made to "look like" the opposite sex. The medical and pharma industries are making money by encouraging the fiction of "trans".
People to medically transition are basically wearing permanent costumes.
But science can't change a person's DNA, bone structure or reproductive organs.
Does any "trans" man have ovaries, uterus, or a functioning vagina? Can they get pregnant or nurse?
Sexual dysphoria isn't a physical problem. It's all mental.
Trans women are individuals who were assigned male at birth but identify and live as women. Gender identity is a deeply personal aspect of one's self-understanding and can be different from the sex assigned at birth.
It's important to respect a person's gender identity and to use the name and pronouns that they prefer. Using the right pronouns and name is a basic way of showing respect and supporting the individual's self-understanding.
In general, it's best to treat everyone with dignity, respect, and understanding, regardless of their gender identity.
In order to avoid the usual brouhaha with definitions, we'd have to agree on certain terms. If you're born with a functional reproductive system that can birth a human being, do we agree your biological sex is "female"? Ok, let's say that's a yes. Now the problem - do we agree all females are women, for terminologies sake? If not, we can't answer the question as posed.
So, if we re-word it " are trans females real females", then I can answer "no" because you were not born with a reproductive system capable of birthing.
Trans women aren’t women.
Trans men aren’t men.
I don’t care if they identify that way or not as long as they force others to be involved in their own personal fantasies.
My big problems are with sports and bathrooms. I guess adding “trans bathrooms” would help a bit though. Theirs been assaults in bathrooms because predators are basically being allowed to enter the bathrooms of the opposite sex. Clearly that needs to stop.
As long as they *dont* force
“Force others to be involved in their personal fantasies” - fully agree. It seems to me this is a kink that brings no fulfillment to people who engage in it without external acknowledgment.
First, I agree with @daniela1982 that we're asking this again? Feels as often as penis size questions.
But, no. Their birth chromosomes remain unchanged. They can have surgery, hormones, clothes, etc., but that doesn't make them that thing. If I paint a marble pattern on a concrete wall, it doesn't make the wall marble.
according to feminists, they are real women

if you say otherwise, you're a sexist/misogynist/incel/transphobe/racist etc.
No, because if one has to preface a woman's being a woman by specifying that "she" is "trans", then what that indicates is a different type of "woman" that is distinct from what a true woman actually is. The so-called "woman" in question is constitutionally a man. If a woman were actually a woman, we wouldn't have to identify her as "trans". She would simply be a woman.
That's not just true, it also constitutes a logical proof.
Maybe not 100% but close enough, as long as they've had bottom surgery done.
I don't much cater to a guy CLAIMING he's a woman or just dressing in women's clothes as giving a guy the right to use the women's bathroom or locker room!! IF he is PLANNING to get SRS and is presenting as female for the previous few years AND ON HORMONES for the previous year or two then, yes, (s) he SHOULD be allowed in the women's rooms. THOSE aren't the people you have to worry about!! They aren't interested in getting a cheap free look, beating off or raping someone!!
My dad said they were called Transvestites'. or TV's, or a "dude in a dress." I am a woman, I can produce children. I was born with a WOMB, hence the term WOMEN.
This is such a silly debate. Identify as whatever you want to identify as, but stop trying to change a reality that none of us can change. Some things just are, such as women can have babies, and men cannot. Your reality does not change biology, but it also doesn't mean that you don't have a right to become whatever you want to become. Those two things can exist, if people that are trans would stop trying to force their realities onto other people. Just be what you want to be.
Trans-actively engaged, to merit being granted what they believe that they desire as 'female privilege'~
Trans men will never be real women and trans girls will NEVER be men so get over yourselves people and see the reality in front of you instead of being brainwashed by media and their fake poor supporting society.
we need to stop aiding in others mental destruction through laws and unfair treatment of actual real women. If you desire to be trans that’s your decision but don’t hinder other peoples’ freedom by special treatment. Trans women say they’re for women while also destroying real women spaces how ironic. No, trans women aren’t real women it maybe hard for some to accept but the truth hurts.
So are Real Dolls then. This one talks. All it needs is your choice of a realistic body.
No. Only ignorant, delusional people would think that.
When u get all of these things; have a regular period cycle, born with boobs, can carry a baby in the stomach, give birth, go through menopause- just to name a few; then you’re a real women.
"Women" is a social construct, there never was such a thing so saying one is more "real" than the other is a pointless exercise.
Would you be happier if the statement were "are trans females real females"? The point isn't to discuss whether the word "woman" or "gender" is a social construct or not, and I think you know that.
@loveslongnails No. What I mean is that gender itself is not actually a real thing. Biology does not work in absolutes like that. It would be more accurate to say that our gender is a personal thing because we are a unique collection of gender attributes and as such not exactly directly comparable to anyone else.
I think the word gender has been whatever "we", the group in charge at the time, wanted it to mean. LOL For centuries it was mostly synonymous with your biological sex, as in penis means your sex is male and so was your gender. Now, it's all about the social construct.
My issue with that is I think it's silly to call all the variations of which a person can "present" and label it as its own gender. Doing that, we'll end up with a billion genders! LOL
@loveslongnails But that is a problem with our usage of the word "gender". Even "biological sex" is complete and utter nonsense intended to try salvage our previous usage of these terms before we realized that reality is not concerned with being categorized and biology is perhaps the worst offender. Gender in a biological term is extremely arbitrary and it really dont care what the results are as long as it works.. most of the time..
I understand what you're saying... but... I don't see anything incorrect about a terminology that makes a distinction between being born a penis and a sperm factory vs a uterus, vagina and eggs. I just don't get the problem with that being "biological sex". But guess what - I don't want to debate it either LOL Thanks for the thoughts.
Obviously no, someone who born a male is a male, and real women can give birth.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/sObPHx2QMY0So women who are infertile or have reproductive issues (and can’t give birth) aren’t real women?
@petitedollbabee excuses for trans, and I don't wanna marry a infertile woman anyway.
en.wikipedia.org/.../Transgender_people_in_sports
They wouldn't need to be called transwomen, if they were women, dumbass.
Nope
No. They're the product of drugs, surgeries, and make-believe. They were not born producing eggs and they never will produce a single egg.
Honestly not in my opinion but they can do and call themselves whatever they want I don't care. Everybody just mind their own business and the world would be a better place...
If you were born as a biological man then you will forever be a man. Period.
As a smart old Jedi said
"Do or do not there is no try"
What the hell is Real, there woman or not woman, there is no real
Anyway this was asked waaaaay too many times
No, it's manifestly incorrect. I can't ignore facts to save someone's feelings.
I try to treat them with dignity and respect. I will call you a woman, but I will not date you as it's not my preference. That's sort of thing.
When “not my president “ picks a “female looking” person to serve on the Supreme Court. That cannot give her definition of what a woman is. Heaven help us!
No because if you were born a male & claim your trans you're just a male just playing dress up, now.
No, they are mentally ill gender dysphorics.
I have no idea what "real woman" means.
I don't agree. I watch Blaire White on YouTube and is one of the few trans people that has any common sense. I definitely agree with most of what Blaire says.
All depends on if they had the op …
Then you can think is it…?
But that’s a hard question but everyone to themselves….
Is this some sort of an IQ test? Of course they aren't women never will they be.
What even is a woman? If you can get sex changes, or even declare to be a woman then there is no ideal of what womanhood is.
sorry, I voted yes by reading it wrong. I DONT agree. cutting off your wiener doesn't make you a woman, it makes you an idiot who cut off his wiener
Not from a biological standpoint but I’ll be respectful to their “identity” as it has no affect on my life and they aren’t hurting anyone
until every bit of male DNA is removed a male to female is still a male. And vise versa
I don't know but a woman with a functioing penis is really hot to me,,,
Only fools agree with that
They are men in womens clothes
If trans women were real women we'd just call them women
It’s in the name “trans” they transitioned into women so no
The depends on the definition of "real" in this context.
Of course they're real women. Why would they not be?
No.. They are wearing a real woman's biology as a costume. They are mentally ill no more no less.
no but i treat them as real women
Of course not.
They are Transwoman not a real woman. T R A N S W O M A N W O M A N W O M A N
No, they are men pretending to be women.
Trans is slang for fake. That is all.
No. Trans women are trans women.
Leave them alone already
Nope.
I see them as different.
Not in my opinion.
Fuck no
No vagina, no woman.
Nope.
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