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Trans women are trans women.
If they were to seek medical treatment, it would be misleading for them to identify as women when seeking medical attention.
What if the doctor schedules a examination to test for cervical cancer?
The trans woman would need to explain that they don’t have a cervix. The doctor would ask why. And then they would discover that they actually were actually born male and would need to reschedule everything.
Whether seeking medicinal attention or competing in sports, trans women are biologically and psychologically unique.
They are not neither fully men nor fully women. They are trans women, with unique challenges, with biologically and socially.
If a trans woman fully wants to identify as a woman, why are they so involved in trans politics?
If they want to be treated as a cis gender woman, they should do what cis gender women do, and not get overly involved in trans politics.
They’d need to leave their life as a man and a trans person behind, so they can turn over a new leaf and fully identify as a woman.
Perhaps move to a new town, change their name, change their identity, so that everyone now only knows them and recognizes them as a woman. They could live life, be treated as a woman, and never speak of the past.
But wouldn’t that make them feel isolated? If they spent time with groups of cis gender women, and if they talk about struggles they’ve been through, and what it was like growing up?
They wouldn’t be able to relate very much, talking about things like the first boy they kissed or how scared they were when they had their first period, or about starting a family. Or what their dating life is like with men.
If they were to share about their past experiences, they couldn’t even call it their experience as a woman, because it wouldn’t be. It would be their experience as a trans woman.
If they talked about changes happening to their body due to hormone therapy and about bottom surgery, other women would not be able to relate.
So, I’d they really want to feel understood, they had to find other TRANS women to connect with since cis gender women friends just won’t be able to understand them the same.
This shouldn’t be necessary if trans women are women.
But the fact is, women understand women’s issues the best. And trans women understand trans women issues the best.
Women are women. Trans women and trans women. There’s no way around it. They are different biologically, psychologically, and even their human experience is different.
I believe that trans women want to be treated as women because they don’t want to endure the discrimination that’s unique to trans women.
But, that’s just how the world is. Every demographic has discrimination and prejudice that’s unique to them.
No matter how you cut it, trans, cis gender, male, female, rich, poor, black, white, brown, yellow, gay, straight, religious, non-religious… Every group faces discrimination (or even hate) that’s unique to their demographic.
Trans women that want to be treated as women are trying to switch demographics.
But unlike rich to poor or poor to rich, this is on a biological level, so they could never fully make the transition anymore than a white person can transition into a black person.
They just need to own their demographic, along with its own unique challenges. And like the feminist movement, they should strive to establish and maintain equality.
But equality and sameness are different. Humans are different, but equal.
I see a lot of trans stuff on here. Your sex/gender is a personal thing, I don't go around announcing I am straight/heterosexual guy with all the regular parts to every Tom, Dick and Harry. The only thing that matters to me when I meet a person is whether they are a good person, period.
If they believe they are women, then what I believe is irrelevant, and I just wish them all the happiness. Life's a journey and everyone has to find who they are, why would a trans person be any different?
Can’t even pretend to care. If a dude wants to get his dick stuffed inside out, get a boob job and change is name to Ashleigh or some shit like that it isn’t by business. If he wants to be referred to as he or she, sure, whatever does it for you. If she wants to take a shit in the same room I leave my bloody tampons, fine, whatever. I have more important shit to worry about. But if she wants me to pretend it’s the same thing as being born with a uterus, she is an idiot. If she asks me advice on what type of makeup to use to hid her five o’clock shadow I am going to laugh. And if she asks me to vote on a bill that will spend tax dollars to pay for unnecessary surgery in the attempt to fulfill some imaginary expectations she has for her own appearance, then she can kiss my ass.
That is one thing I have to disagree with the government: women (be they females or transwomen) shouldn’t pay extra gelt for luxuries for other human beings. That’s just extreme!
@HippieVeganJewslim I am okay with free medical care for actually health issues. Like if a family goes bankrupt and the kids taken away because a parent has cancer, has to stop working and can't afford the bills. That just ridiculous. But so is having the government to pay to stuff your dick inside out.
Cancer is a need. Stuffing the dick inside-out is just a want. That’s the dang difference. Would be great if the transgender surgery was taxed and given to the needy cancer patients. Nu?
@HippieVeganJewslim I would be okay with that too. But I'm also in favor of requiring fat people to loose weight before getting diabetes treatment, or blood pressure meds. and smokers to quit before getting chemotherapy.
Agreed!
For someone who claims not to care you seem very pent up about it
@notawomanagod The part I don't care about is how a person identifies themselves.
I don't think so, because they can't change their DNA, that said... if someone LOOKS like the person they say they are, I'm okay with treating them that way. I man who turns into a woman who then literally looks like a woman, has the surgery and all aspects. I will treat them as a woman... same goes for trans-gender men.
As it doesn't make sense to me to have someone that looks like a man (biological female) going into the women's locker room, or reverse.
However I don't really care, I say that is their business, they can do what they want as long as they don't try to change others.
Their DNA is about their sex: female or male, rather their gender: woman, man, enby, etc.
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If somone has XY chromosomes in every somatic cell of their body, they are a male, not a female. If I take hormones to make my body hair grow excessively and I call myself a gorilla, does that really make me a gorilla? Or does it just make me a crazy guy who calls himself a gorilla?
Yes they are women. Mentally deranged women who need their heads examined more than they need their dicks cut off.
What when these trans genders are not above harassing, abusing, etc other sexually "confused" people such as drag queens.
Locally the police ARRESTED, CHARGED 8 trans genders for doing just that to members of to the local drag queen community and these trans genders were rightfully CONVICTED of harassment, discrimination, etc. The leader's rotting in jail today still.
What when these trans genders are not above harassing, abusing, etc other people of hetrosexual orientation.
There have been COUNTLESS cases of trans genders harassing, belittling, abusing actual born as women. It is so BAD that in an increasing number of jails in America NO trans gender is ALLOWED into female jails unless they have had their dick cut off because there have been MANY men saying they are trans who have RAPED female prisons.
"Yes they are women. " - and this is a facetious statement. They're no more women then cows can fly.
No, they're men in dresses, wigs and makeup pretending to be women who supposedly have "dicks" like that's normal
And if they don't and are cutting their dicks off and putting plastic in their faces, chests and asses, then they're still not women. Know why? Cause' you shouldn't have to do all that to be considered a "woman". So they ain't women. Tired of these delusional mfs.
They're 3% of the population, I'm sure you'll live.
Based! 🔥
Fuck yeah. Let’s go!! Makes me happy to see women fighting back these looney toon shit when these same fuckers are trying to erase biological women. Stay strong kiddo, keep up the good fight
@notawomanagod Three % my ass, more like 0.03%.
@asakyo
Agree 100%
@KrakenAttackin it's literally statistically proven. what happened to "facts don't care about your feelings"
@Danny_dan92 is the wittle baby sad that the twansgwenders awre upsetting his eyes?
@notawomanagod
What are you 5?
@notawomanagod Bullshit. If tranny's were 3% you would see a lot more.
@KrakenAttackin cry about it
@Danny_dan92 you're the only manbaby here
No. Sorry. Not playing your stupid little game.
I’ll call them what they call themselves. TRANS women. Because that’s what they are, they TRANSITIONED. Aka deep down they’ll always be a man. That chopped his cock off and inverted it.
Sorry, but facts say fuck your feelings.
In case you didn’t know this, a WOMAN. Menstruates once a month, has ovaries, has mammary glands and cause of all these factors, can get pregnant.
A trans woman will never have these things. Ever. No matter how hard they try
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You ain’t replacing women. Fuck your agenda
stop being so emotional, this is why men shouldn't be in positions of power, are you on your meriod or something?
Stop making up words. You aren’t special
take a joke snowflake
Go back to pluto alien
Studies have shown that transgenders who identify as the opposite sex often have similar brain patterns to the sex they identify as. The more science uncovers regarding transgenderism, the more evident it is that it's a neurological issue and not a "delusion" or a "sin". How we should treat that neurological issue is not a topic I feel informed enough to comment on, but if a biological male feels happier in life being called she, it seems incredibly mean-spirited to go out of your way to remind them they're not a "real woman". Just mind your own business. If you're uncomfortable with it, just don't interact with them. It's that simple.
““No one who is emasculated or has his male organ cut off may enter the assembly of the Lord.”
Deuteronomy 23:1 NASB2020
God calls this a sin. Are you calling God a liar?
@Exterminatore Are you saying innocent men who are tortured by being castrated don't belong in heaven?
Of course not. Women are born female babies with XX chromosomes, our eggs already developed into our bodies, etc. Pretending to be a woman doesn’t make one a woman
Now, just because I have common sense regarding this doesn’t mean I believe trans people should be discriminated against or murdered for being trans. I just don’t believe it’s right for them to pretend to be something they are not. That isn’t fair to actual women like me
If a biological male feels much happier in life being referred to as "she", is it not cruel and mean-spirited to force them into further misery by reminding them that they're a male? If you don't want to refer to trans women as "real women" simply don't interact with them at all.
But it isn’t factual. I care about reality. Most times, I don’t interact with trans people purposefully but if I am asked a question or if I want to answer someone’s questions regarding anything including trans topics, I will answer. What I say regarding the topic isn’t to be cruel either. It’s just facts. Men are men. Women are women. This is factual excluding intersex people. Women already have to deal with the dangers of being women, why add even more issues with people who are men?
Have you considered that your understanding of high school biology is in fact not a complete understanding of this? I assume not but for reference you aren’t being scientific you’re proving you don’t understand actual biology
What sex has XX chromosomes? And are already born with their reproductive EGGS? Be factual and honest
@hlopinionated_ Be factual and honest you’ve never studied advanced biology have you?
@imawfulatusernames You don’t have to be honest. I already know you don’t know any sciences or psychology or physiology
That answers my question for me😅
My initial comment should have given you common sense before my other ones
They are not women, although I am willing to say their pronouns when talking to them. If the discussion is about their sex or it's a serious situation where they require medical attention, then I will use their actual prounouns instead of the ones they identify with.
If you're talking to someone, you use 2nd person pronouns, not 3rd person pronouns. That's another reason these made-up neopronouns are so stupid... you're supposed to use them about the person when they're not even around.
That's not always the case about the third person pronouns, since there are situations you can use a third person pronoun when in a conversation with someone (usually a group setting). Although, I do agree using they/them as your pronouns is stupid.
It's very rare.
@gory
I agree.
I sympathize with people who don't feel comfortable with their very physical being but it cannot be changed even by all of medical procedures out there. On this basis I oppose all plastic surgery that isn't reconstruction. We're all dealt a certain hand and we have to play it. I hated by brown eyes as a kid but I'm glad nobody took them and lasered them blue.
This might be controversial but as a man or a woman you have a certain obligation to fulfill. We might be equal in value but we are vastly different and the greatest civilizations in the world have been built on men being the men they're supposed to be and women being the women they're supposed to be. Look at what happens when we fail.
they are no more women than I am the sasquatch. you can't identify as something you are not, even if you feel you are. It's probably very frustrating in reality. Maybe they are their own category, but they aren't women.
I bet you really are bigfoot, you just pretend to be a human male.
@Aerissa_Jade I secretly want to identify as bigfoot, but I'm not hairy enough.
Long hair and plastic surgery large breasts don't define a woman.
Nope, but the committed ones do a fine job.
And by that I mean their post-op
I’ve long hair. Thanks for defending me on the stance that only women wear long hippy hair.
In terms of gender we are. In terms of sex we're not. The thing that most people don't understand is that it's a body dysmorphic disorder, like anorexia or bulimia.
We have female minds and the purpose of transition is to give us a body that appears as and in as many ways as possible functions like a female, but you can't change your biological sex.
They simply aren't.
I'm game, I'll call you whatever you want. Let me know.
NO, and they Never Will Be either...Period.
"Period" indeed. That settles it.
@EricSummer Are you saying that women who are post-menopause aren't real women?
I am aware that there are even women who never have a period, and they are real women regardless, though not with full and complete health.
I realize that the play on the word "period" was not as clever as it appeared to me at first.
Still, for the post-menopausal woman clearly this stage of life does not change her status as a woman. We would consider the person over the full life.
@EricSummer lol yeah because they'll never have one!
I will call them whatever they want me to call them to avoid going to jail or getting cancelled or assaulted in public. How they live is between them and God. I don't bother interfering just because I think differently.
No, they aren’t. They weren’t born and raised as girls. They didn’t go through menstrual cycles, they didn’t lose their hymen, they can’t have babies, they haven’t lived with the expectations of what a women should do in life… there is so much there.
Do I care what adults do with their lives? No. Will I date a trans person? No.
why are we adding the word “trans” in front of it if they’re the same
Thank you. Exactly.
To answer your question with an honest answer that also explains their behavior…
They didn’t get as much love, attention and support growing up so they’re going to extreme lengths to get that. Like how those small time companies hire someone to stand on the side of the street to dress stupid and wave and throw around a sign selling their services or products. It’s desperation on full display
@Danny_dan92 do you have any research to support that
Unfortunately. If you even tried to do your own research. All you would find is biased research articles that state the exact opposite.
For example, I just looked at one that is from a government organization.
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And in the article it stated that transgender people are suicidal because they’re excluded….
Really…. They’re excluded? When right now they are getting recognized left and right and getting an immense amount of special treatment. Not only that, but LITERALLY by doing what they’re doing they’re excluding themselves from society by creating a completely separate class of people… you see the irony? Imagine making a completely new class of people by doing radical surgeries that dismembers and take drugs to alter hormones. And then claim you feel isolated from society. Just saying.
Honestly though you just have to look at the whole thing from not only an objective point of view. But also empathetic too.
Look, I myself have felt sad. Lonely. Empty.
But I never resulted in fixing that by doing CRAZY shit like cutting parts of my body off and identifying as the opposite sex and post that everywhere I could. Why? Because that’s absurd. Rather, I simply talk about my problems to people I trust and love. Simple fix really.
The other thing that perpetuates this phenomenon honestly is the internet.
I really do believe that we wouldn’t be having this transgender issue, if it wasn’t for social media and the internet. Because now, a single individual can garnish SO MUCH attention, even if it’s negative. Just by posting anything, including posts indicating they’re trans.
Lastly, as human beings we are social creatures. Proof of this is that in the pandemic, suicide went up because some people couldn’t see friends and family for a very long time. This is also why they have solitary confinement for the worst criminal offenders. Because being isolated from people and not being able to talk to others would eventually drive you mad. It’s linked to attention
What I can do tho. Is show you videos that are very factual. Because articles, especially when googling them. You won’t find a single one that is honest rather very biased to aligning with the claims of trans people
Lastly, as a woman. I’m assuming you’re a biological woman. You should be scared with the trans movement.
Because biological women are slowly being erased. And I as a biological man do not stand for that. Want proof of this? In this video you have just ONE example of where someone who should be an intellectually inclined person was asked the very simple question. “What is a woman?” And they just couldn’t answer the question.
It’s simple. A woman, is a human being that has ovaries, uterus, XX chromosomes, breasts with mammary glands for breast feeding and more estrogen than testosterone
@Danny_dan92 look dude, no only am I a woman, I’m also about to graduate medical school. I’m very aware of the threat that the trans movement has on science, and equality for women. But it’s also bad science to make gigantic assumptions on peoples life experience based on their current mental state
ABSOLUTELY NOT! A trans woman is a man with a mental health crisis.
Statistics prove that the suicidal rate amongst trans are about 50 percent, which is higher than any other community in the world. They say it’s because of discrimination.
If so, why did Jews in holocaust and enslaved Africans in America have little interest to no suicidal attempts?
Excellent point.
No , you are either born a male or a female , I never heard of a baby being born and a doctor saying Oh look you are having a transgender
😂😂😂 Good one.
No. And I think defining them as women just hurts women.
Almost anything can hurt some women or other.
They not real women, I would never date one, there is also a girl that claim that she a cat.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/sObPHx2QMY0Being a cat is biological. Being a woman is social. My drama teacher is a cool cat. I’ve been also called a cool cat.
Actually both are biological, you can't be a woman if you was born with a penis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URz-RYEOaig
Yes but within limits. Trans women shouldn't advertise tampons for example since they lack the body parts to use said tampons.
There is no such thing as a trans woman, because trans. Women don’t exist born male and magically through hormones and surgery be a women. That’s not how biology works
trannies are mentally ill gays trying to groom children.
Better question is what the hell is going on with gas prices? Just today I passed $3.09, $3.19, $3.39 and more! I wouldn't be surprised if it hit $4.30! Like wtf is goin oooon
Blame biden
Here we go again.
They wouldn't be called "trans women" if they were, kiddo.
It's like saying "genuine fakes" are real legal products, simply because they say they are genuine.
Grown men in women's clothes that think they are women just because they put on a dress and wore makeup🤦
Only people that think they are women are the liberals.
No, they're trannies. "Women" are born with a reproductive system capable of (if they work properly) producing babies. A trans woman is born with a reproductive system that produces sperm.
Nope. Now I don't care if some dude wants to play dress up or whatever, but I refuse to play along. And there is no flipping way that dudes should be able to compete in women's sports.
There's a difference between wanting to be a woman and actually being one. I want to be Florence Pugh's boyfriend but that ain't happening either. And when you get past the bullshit identifying as a woman is just wanting to be one.
Until the DNA can be changed from male to female or vice versa that person is a female if born female or male born male no matter what changes have been to the original body that person is still a female or male whatever gender they were born
The jury is still out whether trans women are women but they are definitely not biologically female.
Listen you are what you were when you came into this world they are men dressed up to look like women. Now I'm not saying that they should be bullied or discriminated against but make no mistakes there definitely men
They don't have two X chromosomes, so they definitely are not women.
Nope. Mangoes can't be oranges even if you try to cover them up with orange peels.
NO, THEY ARE NOT WOMEN, they are men who choose to live their lives AS WOMEN.
Overall, it isn't a big deal, they can live there life how they want EXCEPT for a few areas.
Quit demanding everyone confesses you to be a real woman. '
Quit going nuts about this idiotic pronoun shit.
Quit demanding you get to join all the girls sports teams and compete against them head to head and demand to go shower and changed with them and scream bigot at normal society who says you don't belong on girls teams and you don't belong in their locker rooms.
Outside of those issues I have no problem at all if someone is trans.
They are whatever a blood test would say they are.
They are just men with mental issues that they should address..
No, they are men who identify as women. It's not the same thing. I'll call them whatever they want, but they should NOT be allowed to compete in woman's sports. The fact anyone thinks that's ok is insanity. Literally.
This poll has nothing to do with sports.
@notawomanagod It SHOULD have nothing to do with sports, but the sad truth is that it does. Do you need me to explain why?
I won’t call them what they want. If someone told me I have to say the sky is not blue but silver I’d tell them “no.” It would be a lie to do that.
Same thing. I’m not calling a man a woman’s name, I won’t refer to them as a her. Reality is what it is. I won’t participate in delusions regardless of what people want me to call them.
I don't want to play make believe. My eyes tell me that's not a woman, it's a man in makeup with boobs.
I don’t.
It’s getting a little confusing and outta control.
It's quit with the stupidity and come back to common sense.
* let's
Then educate yourself on the difference between sex and gender.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy. No kidding. Trannies are a tiny percentage of the population that are seriously mentally ill. They need help and treatment, not praise and elevation.
Are we celebrating schizophrenic people or people with other serious mental disorders? It's funny how the lens changes completely when sex or sexual orientation is involved.
@KrakenAttackin I’m very paranoid about schizophrenia.
@hippie
There is no difference between the two. The terms are synonymous and always have been until like 5 years ago.
I resent people changing the definitions of words to accommodate sexual perversions.
Vaccine - trust the science, chromosomes- don’t trust the long established science.
@Everyone
I don’t think this tranny stuff is mental illness and outside of labotomies, since when has the treatment for any mental illness been body mutilation?
I think this is a sexual kink that requires participation from everyone or there is no gratification for the one who wants to be acknowledged as a woman.
I think these people seriously get sexual gratification from being acknowledged as a woman when everyone knows they’re not and that they want to be penetrated and f*cked like a woman.
As soon as someone says “that’s a man, not a woman” it ruins the kink for the tranny. It’s hard to live in a fantasy world if everyone else isn’t on board.
It’s no different than me wanting to be acknowledged as being Abraham Lincoln and addressed as such. As soon as someone waves the BS flag the fantasy is over. The participation of society would be required to make this be gratifying.
This is why if you don’t applaud trannies, even if you tacitly disapprove, you are labeled a hatemongor, and trannyphobe and whatever.
@HippieVeganJewslim Even paranoids have real enemies.
@Exterminatore sxizoφrenia and paranoia is the same? Nu, many get paranoid once in a while, but I doubt they all are sxizos. However, I don’t doubt I’ve it, or at least sxizoaffective dis-order, as I was diagnosed as such once.
@KrakenAttackin I believe You. I reckon I’ve more enemies than most people, despite being a peacenik.
What chromosome combo do they have? I only date XX.
Nope and they are dude that looks like a lady
If they have xx chromosomes, yes. Otherwise, they are gender dysphoric.
I treat them like women in public but obviously I know they're not. They are just very feminine guys.
I'll call them a woman if that makes them happy. But they don't get to choose what I believe. And if they have a problem with that then they are the intolerant bullies.
If they were women, then... why the 'trans' prefix?
No, if I have a Honda Civic and put the shell over a Lamborghini over it. I still have a Civic. You can change external but not the internal.
No. To the deepest core of their cells, they're men. And I won't consider them anything else than men.
2 Thessalonians 2:11 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
““No one who is emasculated or has his male organ cut off may enter the assembly of the Lord.”
Deuteronomy 23:1 NASB2020
no of course not just like a white guy in black face is not black.
Yes. Social constructions, like men/women/enbies are defined by the people, not by biology.
Hmm 🤔 Look at all the females who voted “yes”. Interesting that men changing their gender to female is a direct attack on women but most women seem to be okay with this.
Trans women are most likely better than her
No. They're men who will never be an actual woman. They can do all this shit to change their appearence but they'll still be men
no they are still biologically male and always will biologically be a male
No, they took hormones and mutilated them selves into what can only be called a mockery of women.. Disgusting.
Lol. This is proof that at a minimum 38% of women are delusional. @KrakenAttackin
women are followers. When a trend begins, especially if it is inspired by celebrities, women will jump on the bandwagon no matter how absurd.
@KrakenAttackin They’re just unintelligent these days
Women are born with intelligence but a large % are simply choosing not to use it. Only Fans is easier.
If some of them can be a lot more beautiful than actual women, of course they are
I mean, they’re on a high dose of hormones, typically get plastic surgery and spend a ridiculous amount of time altering their appearance to “pass” as the opposite gender. If regular women put a similar amount of work in they would look just as good.
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