Do you accept trans women as real women and trans men as real men?

[Anonymous]

Yes

No

[MrOracle]

I don't make any effort to confront anyone or be mean to them, because there's no reason to do that. Normally, that's not something that would need to come up in conversation. But if it did, then the answer is no, because they aren't.

If you were born male, you CANNOT become female, and vice versa. Surgery and other things can change your outer appearance (with plenty of complications and usually a reduction in lifespan), but that's still a very, very long way from actually becoming the opposite sex. Surgery and hormones are essentially just ways to improve the costume, but under the costume, they are still whatever they were at birth.

If they are more comfortable that way, then, as an ADULT, they have every right to make that choice, and I support them having that right. But I have a big problem with many in the Left who push the idea that hormones and/or surgery are "simple", are "reversible", are "not dangerous", or that they "make you [the opposite sex]", yet I've heard these and similar statements from them many times. This attitude is already having serious negative outcomes, and things will get worse before they get better. Much of the medical establishment in Europe was pushing these ideas starting around 2015-2016, based largely from POLITICAL rather than MEDICAL pressure, but the actual results were so bad that they've largely abandoned these practices, and have mostly gone back to previous (much more conservative) policies around transitioning. The US has been slower to learn the lessons, despite plenty of evidence that the activist stance being false and dangerous.

Again, I have sympathy for those who feel they are trapped in the wrong body, but for most of them, that feeling will be temporary, and for the few who continue to feel that way into adulthood, I think they need HONEST help and understanding and care. They should be allowed to live as they choose - but that includes being told the TRUTH about the potential down-sides of hormones and surgeries.

They also do not have the right to tell ME or other people how they are to be addressed, or that they MUST be accepted or be given preferential treatment. That is NOT okay.

[FunkyMonkee]

I have a number of trans friends. I give them the courtesy to refer to them as they would like to be referred to. I do NOT make fun of them and I support them going through that change because I know that's it's NOT just some sexual fantasy! At least to the legit ones. There ARE SOME people that aren't legit about it, kinda like those guys that cover themselves in tattoos and then get operations to look like a lizard. IS HE a lizard? NO, he's a guy that tries to LOOK LIKE a lizard!!
I don't know that I would call them, "COMPLETE" women or men but, it's as close as they're ever gonna get (IF they went the full 9 yards) until someone can create a device or "drug" that completely changes you over from one gender to the other 100%.
There are those that don't even bother TRYING to become 100%. I saw one last night that at least LOOKS VERY MUCH like a woman but, they still use their own normal, deep masculine voice. I'm not trying to make fun but, to me, that's someone that's just wearing the best version of the full costume as they can buy. John Cleese did it more convincingly when he was doing his Miss Anne Elk bit on Monty Python!!

[NewWaves]

Not at all. And it's in the name. Transition means going from one thing to the next. And since you can't go to the next is any genuine, truthful way, you're just the one thing thinking you're going to the next.

[Kayleigh2005]

Never, I don’t want men listening to me pee either or have them asking about how to be a girl

[OlderAndWiser]

Hell fucking no. A trans "woman" was born with XY chromosomes in every cell of their body (except their sperm.) A trans "woman" was born with a penis and testicles, and grew up under the influence of a powerful drug: testosterone. Surgery doesn't change any of that. A trans "woman" is a man who suffers from body dysmorphia, depression, and perhaps even delusional beliefs about their identity, but. . . if I said that I thought I was a bald eagle, would you say that I actually am a bald eagle?

[lightbulb27]

they are real people, but

they aren't men or women bodies/minds. That's fine, they dont have to be, just be who you are however you were made. To me it's fine having a different classification as "half / half or converted".

but I don't see how it's possible to convert from male body into a female body with all that a female body can do. our knives aren't so price as down to the cell level. other direction... I'm not familiar with.

[hahahmm]

The simplest answer is: no.

Trans did find a loop hole in social rules tho... if a guy puts on a wig and lipstick he can punch a woman out and it's considered female on female violence with way lighter punishment or no punishment. Meanwhile women are out there claiming all/most straight men are evil simply for raising his voice at a woman.

[Lliam]

Hell no. Transitioning drugs and surgeries are only cosmetic. Trans-women are still men and trans-men are still women, no matter what they "look" like. Plus, they have been neutered, so they are neither men nor women.

And since they didn't grow up as the opposite gender, they don't know what it feels like to be the opposite gender because they have had no way to experience it. So all they can do is caricature how the opposite gender behaves.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

Your DNA tells what you are not what you think you are. If you want to use a female bath or locker then a DNA test result should be used to tell people that if they have male DNA then they use men's lockers and bathrooms. and female DNA use female lockers and bathrooms. NOT WHAT SEX OF THE MOMENT YOU ARE TODAY!!!

[Unit1]

While i understand and "support" (support can be a strong word here) the transgender, there is no denying they can't have the authentic and fundamental organic functions, that women have, namely pregnancy, menstruation and breastfeeding. Modern transgender-ism can only go so far and yet it's a work of wonder how far transitioning into the opposite sex can take one.

I know since my female soul is mismatching my male body.

[Jessica405]

No. They can never be true trans EVEN IF THEY HAVE SURGERY. You can call yourself anything you want from all the life forms, but you will never actuually be that life form.

[Gold618]

No, of course not, because I actually understand Grade 3 biology, and I'm not living in some weird, alternative 'Twilight Zone' reality.

[Miristheiss]

No.
A trans woman is a TRANS woman. A nan choosing to live as a woman.
A man can never become a woman or vice versa.
Only live AS the other sex as best they can.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Yes, absolutely. Some of my best friends are trans and I don't see them any different than what they present as even if they don't pass as well as they would like.

[Fireguy17]

It doesn't matter what they call themselves, but genetically they are born male or female based on their bone structure, and most if they have an innie or outie from birth.

[Anonymous]

Trans women and men are real women and men, yes.

As someone who has met and even made physical contact with both I can confirm they actually really do exist and are as real as any other woman and man.

[Gwendoline]

No I do not. Unfortunately they can never be the gender they desire

[Staximus]

If course not. That's like me painting myself orange and sitting with the oranges at the supermarket, and then getting mad when the cops are arresting me for acting like an orange.

[TDDMS]

No, trannies are just mutilated humans. The minute someone expresses interest in chopping their dick and tits off, that's when they need help.

[seeyounexttuesday]

No. They're just mentally ill people playing pretend.

[Cubus]

You're a woman if you have XX chromosomes. You're a man if you have XY chromosomes. This is what biology says.

[DrPepper12]

Whatever you want to present to the world is fine with me. Your identity and IDGAF. Just don't tell me there's 17,321 genders.

[RedInnocent69]

Not sure I need to “accept” them, per se. How someone wants to present themselves has little to do with me. I just try to respect everyone, and sometimes get to know and help them

[Anonymous]

I don't know what counts as "real." I will never consider a male to be female or a female to be male. Regardless of gender identity.

[Surely]

I treat them as a person. No more. No less! Even though I feel there is something mentally wrong with them.

[Anonymous]

No. Neither do they. Nor does anyone else. That's why we actually SAY "trans woman" instead of "woman." Because they're not the same thing.

[BikerCD]

I do not care what trans people do in their lives. I am not a cultural war warrior who whines about useless cultural wars

[Jerre]

If I dated a woman and found she had a dick, I would be out the door super fast.

[Flower7]

Nope.

[Anonymous]

No, i don’t.

[BarryLiverstone]

What is real?

[beefcakebradybatson]

Yep.

[Reijen]

No, that'd be silly.