Is this really happening in the UK?

[bingbongbangbung]

https://youtu.be/oC-Fh7DRBcw

[Metallsturm]

A bigger question is why UK is concerned about being China's bitch, yet are perfectly content being USA's bitch for decades and seldom ever talk about it or even admit it 🤷‍♂️.

Kinda hypocritical in my opinion.

[kingofthellamas]

I don't agree. I think the UK is very aware and honest about being a poodle of the US (or junior partner, as PM Cameron once said). And if you need to pick between team US or team China, I think I'll go with the team that allows the greater politcal and social freedom.

[Metallsturm]

@kingofthellamas If so, then why complain about China?

[bingbongbangbung]

Lol America is becoming like China after it went super woke, including the military and intelligence agencies

[Metallsturm]

Becoming? USA is worse than China in this regard, simply media isn't reporting it, as the USA is even better at shutting so-called "reporters" up than China is. Do I need to remind of a Patriot Act (as an example), which was made way before even Chinese "Great Firewall" went into an effect? "Foreign agents" law being introduced even before WW2? Do I need to remind of Snowden and his revelations that nobody even mentions anymore? Assange maybe?

[bingbongbangbung]

Yes I know that the US govt violates the constitution through the fed agencies and outsourcing to other countries and private entities. But at the very least, you won't be arrested, tortured, imprisoned, or killed for simply insulting a politician like in China. Nor do you have to deal with a heavily censored internet.

[bingbongbangbung]

Also even during times when the government did censor and restrict shit, whatever was banned was still being distributed and consumed by the populace at large. Prohibition during the 1920s (30s?) was an excellent historical example. Alternative media outlets like Daily Wire not only have surged in popularity the past few years, they've become more mainstream than just being in niche parts of the internet.

[Metallsturm]

> But at the very least, you won't be arrested, tortured, imprisoned, or killed for simply insulting a politician like in China

Clinton's bodycount begs to differ, for example:

Besides, do I need to remind of Guantánamo Bay?

> whatever was banned was still being distributed and consumed by the populace at large
That's humans being humans. Instead of being educational, politicians went into "ban everything" mode, which has resulted in the opposite.
Nowadays, however, in the age of the internet, search engines can manipulate what you seek and what you receive. Are you aware China Daily or Russia Today are "lowered" in Google search results? Milo Yiannopoulos has outright shown that when you type into a search engine using North American (USA/Canada) IP "Hilary health" (specifically during 2016 elections), there are no suggestions of her being not okay (like her fainting near 9/11 site); instead, there are suggestions like "health plan" or "healthy". Really? Is that what people seek for?

> Prohibition during the 1920s (30s?) was an excellent historical example
Heck, we had the same shit in late 80s, turned out to be the same; anti-alcohol campaign resulted in mass alcoholism.

> Alternative media outlets like Daily Wire not only have surged in popularity the past few years, they've become more mainstream than just being in niche parts of the internet

Same was with us; in 80s and 90s CIA controlled media became more reliable than home media.

[bingbongbangbung]

Clintons went after people who tried to expose them of their corruption and crimes, not simply insulting them; otherwise, conservative commentators would've been at risk of being killed, tortured, kidnapped, arrested, etc.

There are alternative search engines that don't censor like Brave. CIA controlled media and anti-alcohol campaigns are false equivalents. Unless you wanna prove Daily Wire and QAnon are backed by the government.

[bingbongbangbung]

Also you bringing up feds doing shady shit only further proves my premise of me agreeing that those at the top of the US govt are guilty of doing fucked up shit.

[bingbongbangbung]

I'm from Canada and I did a quick Google search of Hillary health, and already I see articles discussing her health lmfao.

www.reuters.com/.../uk-factcheck-hillary-clinton-medical-rec-idUSKBN2413CK

www.nbcnews.com/.../hillary-clinton-s-health-scare-9-unanswered-questions-n646551

www.today.com/.../hillary-clinton-s-health-scare-real-concerns-vs-conspiracy-theories-762920003562

www.google.ca/search

[Metallsturm]

I said "specifically during 2016 elections"; back then it was proven that using IP addresses that don't belong to NA/EU would have totally different search results & search suggestions.

But in any case, both of those parties aren't good. Question is why someone would prefer an overly covert regime that hides most of its crimes instead of one being rather relatively open about it.

[Guardian45]

Who are these people amongst "Clinton's bodycount"? I believe that they are servicemen, or secret service killed in the line of duty. By the nature of their work, they accept the risk. The public will never know their sacrifice.

[bingbongbangbung]

I can only think of the people that died in Benghazi and maybe those that tried to expose state secrets of the Clintons

[bingbongbangbung]

Because preferring the US govt over the Chinese govt is the lesser of the two evils, even if barely.

[Metallsturm]

> Because preferring the US govt over the Chinese govt is the lesser of the two evils, even if barely.

If we're to talk about lesser evils, I'm yet to see the list of wars started and/or countries invaded by the Chinese government in the last few decades 🤷‍♂️.

[bingbongbangbung]

China invaded India, Korea, and Vietnam during the Cold War. They didn't start the conflicts with Korea nor Vietnam, but with India they did. Mao also threatened the USSR that their citizens would invade them if China ever got nuked (along with getting USA involved). And are we gonna forget how China takes advantage of poor countries with their One Belt, One Road project?

[bingbongbangbung]

I've also yet to see you condemn the atrocities the CCP did to its own civilians, especially political dissidents, rich businessmen, celebrities, and ethnic minorities

[bingbongbangbung]

As well as infiltrating other countries to steal corporate and military IP, spy on Chinese abroad, undermine foreign governments, and spread their communist propaganda. Are you a wumao by any chance?

[bingbongbangbung]

Let's also not forget that the CCP are allies with North Korea, Iran, Syria, Myanmar, Venezuela, and many other tyrannical regimes that do fucked up shit to their people

[Metallsturm]

> I've also yet to see you condemn the atrocities the CCP did to its own civilians, especially political dissidents, rich businessmen, celebrities, and ethnic minorities

I did admit that they're also bad, however, I'm pointing out that US is even worse, while you're calling US "lesser evil". Besides, doing something they're doing to their own civilians is somewhat different from doing something to folk in another country on the other side of a planet altogether; consider it paying the price of not caring enough of what's going on in your own country.

> China invaded India, Korea, and Vietnam during the Cold War. They didn't start the conflicts with Korea nor Vietnam, but with India they did

I asked "in a last few decades", not "half a century ago".

> Let's also not forget that the CCP are allies with North Korea, Iran, Syria, Myanmar, Venezuela, and many other tyrannical regimes that do fucked up shit to their people

Let's not forget that US is allies with anyone who they consider valuable at the moment (and will dump that ally with no hesitation, just ask Kurds, Afghanis, Koreans etc. lmao); for example Saudi Arabia, that executes oh so precious homosexuals (bonus points for doing it during so-called "pride month") and only recently women were even allowed to drive (yas feminism?) and spread wahhabism by the request of the US (admitted by Saudi Prince MBS). US policy on dictators was outlined by Roosevelt: "he [dictator] may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch".

> Are you a wumao by any chance?
Who I am you can see if you highlight my profile.

So remind me again, why do you consider US to be less evil than China?

[bingbongbangbung]

A few decades can be half a century ago. And I already told you why the US is slightly less evil than China before.

[Metallsturm]

And I debunked it by simply pointing out and providing examples that it's simply less talked and hyped about in media, and they prefer to do it a bit more covertly than China does 🤷‍♂️
Hence why there are such massive problems over there with president Dementia being in charge (exact president they deserve, IMHO, represents the country perfectly) -- ignorance is bliss.

[bingbongbangbung]

You didn't debunk anything

[bingbongbangbung]

You're just consistently proving my original rebuttal that the US govt at the federal level is corrupt while never addressing the fact that the CCP is corrupt at all levels

[bingbongbangbung]

And before you tell me, yes, I do condemn all the atrocities the US govt did, whether for geopolitical, economic, sociocultural, and other reasons; but at the same time, I acknowledge the atrocities the CCP committed to their own and others, and the potential for tyranny if they became the dominant superpower.

[kingofthellamas]

Huh? I've not made a complaint against China. I did say I would go with the team that allows greater political and social freedom. I did not state what nation that was.

[bingbongbangbung]

They were claiming I was the one that argued that, not you

[Guardian45]

The LONGEST resident is The Cat!

[Guardian45]

Thank you for MHG!

[leighbee]

💀😂

[Metallsturm]

By the way, legally speaking, can UK elect a cat as a PM? In some places around the world some animals are being elected for different jobs en.wikipedia.org/.../Non-human_electoral_candidates
It's rather obvious that a cat is more consistent (and arguably more calm and intelligent) than a British politician, so technically can they elect a cat?

[Guardian45]

@Metallsturm. *OMG*😳 is that for REAL?

[Metallsturm]

Yes, quite real. Perhaps Britons should try electing a cat 🤷‍♂️ I can only see pros about it:

- Already obvious it's a pussy, no need to pretend it's not.
- Might be neutered if male, doesn't need to prove to anyone it has balls. Doesn't care at all about balls if female.
- Doesn't use alcohol or drugs (except catnip).
- For real doesn't understand (nor cares, just like any other previous PM) what citizens want/say; such rebuttal works way better than using an overstated "misogyny" and whatnot excuse. At least something fresh.
- Sleeps and keeps quiet most of the time, thus doesn't embarrass itself in front of the public (licking its own asshole and whatnot in front of press can be either edited out or passed as being "eccentric", like Johnson's "woke up with a hangover" haircut).
- Only requires simple cat food instead of expensive ravish dishes at the taxpayer's expense.
- Is unable to pass some retarded policy, mandate or law (unlike previous PMs); at least won't make it worse.
- Doesn't pretend it cares about humans -- it genuinely doesn't.
- Is unable to do anything politics-wise, pretty much like previous PMs. No expectations = no disappointment.
- Is unlikely to be involved into corruption, murder, conspiracy etc., as it acts on impulse due to being short-sighted, and only takes what it genuinely needs at the moment (which is typically limited to food in relatively short amounts when it feels hungry) and has no need for large real estate, cars, whores, bank accounts, expensive clothes (or clothes at all) etc. At very worst, a small card box is enough as a real estate for it.

Think about it. It would do wonders for plenty of Western countries.

[Guardian45]

*LARRY, THE CAT FOR PM*🥸🤡😆😂🤣🤪🥰

[leighbee]

I mean it is bad over here 😂

[USLegionary]

Imagine when Biden fucked the US economy up we could have fired him in a week.

[AngryCarl]

I didn't watch the whole video (time is money!) but most of it is true, unfortunately.

[bingbongbangbung]

Wow, really?

[AngryCarl]

The part about the traitors and the embassy are true, I don't know about the rest.