Do you agree with Todd Rundgren that to be a Republican, you have to be a liar?

[Anonymous]

Skip to 8 minutes in to get to the political question.

"In other words, if someone says, 'How do you like my new hairdo?' and you don't like it, but you say, 'It looks great on you.' You're trying to find ways not to lie and sometimes there's no way you can't. So I made a record about all the ways that people are dishonest with each other. I never thought that a political party would make that a canon, you know, that essentially the reason why Liz Cheney isn't in the Republican party was because she refused to lie.

"In other words, to be a Republican means that you have to first and foremost be able to lie. And lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie. And that especially irks me, having done a record about all of the ways that people will consciously and unconsciously be dishonest with each other."

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Trump to Blake Masters: "If you want to get across the line you got to go stronger in that one thing because that was the one thing a lot of complaints about. Look at Karen. Karen's winning with very little money and if they say "how is your family?" she says "the election was rigged and stolen"..."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foN1rKmHSHE

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Wow! The Arizona AG who refused to state outright that Trump was wrong and Biden won Arizona fair and square just 3 days ago has finally had enough:

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich said on Sunday that candidates who continue to push the lie that the 2020 election was “stolen” are “clowns” who are “engaged in a giant grift.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ux0gzpky-8

[normalice]

I wouldn't say that they must lie. They certianly do lie, more often than not in fact, but they aren't lying for the sake of lying. They speak for the sake of an agenda and if that agenda can be more easily brought to fruition by speaking a lie instead of a truth, then they will absolutely speak a lie. It just happens to be the case that since their agenda is massively unpopular (i. e. christian nationalism), the overwhelming majority of what they speak needs to be lies.

[Sabretooth]

ask Fox News.

[Asker]

@Sabretooth The ones who are promoting Christian Nationalism?

[Sabretooth]

or anything, really. Fox News has come under fire many times by their own viewers for the rare times they tried to tell the truth. apnews.com/.../jan-6-hearings-fox-news-ratings-c898174e44e9a2e342c87ed084c9f699

[Asker]

Can any of them win without claiming Trump was cheated?

[Sabretooth]

nope... as Cheney... though, to be real... she ain't much better... make no mistake--she'll fall in line if Trump wins again... look at her record and not her bluster.

[Sabretooth]

''ask''.

[Asker]

@Sabretooth I'm pretty sure she's never going to have anything to do with Trump again.

[Sabretooth]

that's what she says... she had 4 years to prove that and has remained a Republican for 2 more.

[Sabretooth]

why she didn't side with Trump here? I have no clue... but it wasn't for any noble reason.

[Asker]

@Sabretooth I think it was for a noble reason. He crossed a line when he refused to accept the results of an election. The country depends on politicians accepting election results and passing on power peacefully. Especially the president. Trying to steal the presidency, Trump and his conspiritors in Congress, went against their oaths to the constitution.

[Sabretooth]

she voted with him more than 90% of the time--going along with his amorality, his lies, his cruelty... look at all the times that she voted against the people: justfacts.votesmart.org/.../liz-cheney

[Asker]

@Sabretooth No argument about that, but that's politics. Sedition is something totally different.

[Sabretooth]

perhaps to those who suffer for her policies. in truth--most politicians are just like Trump... just not as overt.

[Asker]

@Sabretooth Has any politician in the history of the country tried to appose the peacefule transition of power?

[Sabretooth]

Has any politician in the history of the country had a cult of deranged fanatics?

[Asker]

@Sabretooth Possibly, but they weren't deranged enough to try to oppose the peaceful transition of power. (And what happened to my fingers?)

[Sabretooth]

https://youtu.be/jane6C4rIwc?t=148

[Asker]

@Sabretooth That must have been it. :)

[msc545]

Hell yes. These people, led by Supreme Liar Trump, have made a religion out of it.

[NamerOfStars]

Of course not- you just need a specific set of priorities. Not even VALUES, really, just assessments of what matters most.

And given that the party that says "black lives matter" but doesn't enact (or vote for) policies to help them; that says "women's rights are human rights" while working to undermine BOTH; and that unleashes their greatest vitriol on the man who proved they don't represent the working class any longer, instead of taking the lesson to heart and changing things, is the one that's NOT the Republicans, it's pretty disingenuous to be casting blame at their feet. This just comes across as another DARVOing limousine liberal who can't accept that other views of the world aren't inherently based on lies or evil.

I WILL agree, however, that to be a politician- a successful one, at least- you need to be a liar.

[Asker]

What does matter most? Tax cuts for the rich or being in power to enact tax cuts for the rich?

[NamerOfStars]

It's not about wealth, it's about power and status- of which wealth is simply the most valuable form. Think back to the times in recent history when Democrats controlled the government- there were times when they had the House, Senate, and Oval Office. How often did THEY raise taxes specifically on the rich? Paying lip service to an idea isn't the same as implementing it.

[Asker]

en.wikipedia.org/.../Omnibus_Budget_Reconciliation_Act_of_1993
en.wikipedia.org/.../American_Taxpayer_Relief_Act_of_2012

[loveslongnails]

I would fill in a little more information - If you want to move up in the ranks of the Republican Party, or be a leader within it, you must be willing to lie, not just spin or exaggerate, but outright lie. I don't think every Republican person is necessarily a bigger liar than any non-Republican is - we're people, and as House says "Everybody lies". However, the Republican leaders have made it a way of life in recent years, with no shame or regret, to a far greater degree than any other group in the USA, even the Dems.

[FunkyMonkee]

Todd couldn't even figure out how to wire his own recording studio and he's gonna talk shit about republicans? I used to be a big fan until I worked with him a couple times. Now, he's just an arrogant asshole that thinks he knows everything! Same with Roger Waters!!

[lightbulb27]

I've been watching some msnbc lately, just to get a sense of it. Total garbage in general... very biased, worse than fox possibly. Look at how they didn't question him... lol.

no, but I think both sides have their quirks and oddities. It is fascinating how people see things very differently.

[Asker]

Why would they question his answer? You can just look at how Republicans behave to see it's true.

This Republican official was asked if there was any evidence of anything but the tiniest amount of voter fraud in their state and he says no. Ask him to state that that means Biden won the election fair and square, and he goes to ridiculous lengths to avoid answering the question.

https://youtu.be/olSSqRjFdlk

Trump's even been caught making false statements in a federal court filing: "Fulton County improperly counted a number of votes including 10,315 deceased people, 2,560 felons, and 2,423 unregistered voters". A total lie, and one that his lawyers had told him were unsupported. That's a very clear crime. So is using the courts in bad faith to disrupt the January 6 vote.
storage.courtlistener.com/.../...41840.372.0_3.pdf

[lightbulb27]

I suspect most of us lie in some regards, or maybe... lack integrity... the challenge is inspecting ourselves. I find my own inconsistencies, most people's ego's are too great, especially politicians.
We should have reporters instead of head nodders... you can see how agreable she was with him, in others words... within the same party, there is no challenge "to think". Ditto on Fox. The media bias is poison.. like cheerleaders for your own team... they aren't really educating you about the other side...

What's lost is trust. Facts don't matter when there is an emotional barrier.
Realize people can believe something is true that is not true. Trump may actually believe it... it's not a lie anymore than a paranoid delusional person thinks someone is following them.

It's very frustrating the "facts" don't line up with highly educated people... they align to political sides. John Stewart isn't interested in finding facts, he's interested in mind control like most of the other media heads. You know something is wrong. Lets be honest here, the left doesn't want to find a problem with the election results (same way republicans didn't when Hillary complained it was thrown). Some of the right has said there wasn't enough evidence, I agree. But I still think they are stacking the deck... their policies and behavior and motivation shows that. They'd do anything to win including cheat if they can. Cheating to me includes allowing illegals into the country (post election), distorting election laws with proposals they've made.

"hello it's me..."... good stuff! he's an artist mind, often they are very left for whatever reason, not always.

[Asker]

Trump made multiple comments about having lost to Biden, he'd been informed that he'd lost by everyone sane in his orbit. He knew, and he tried to stay in power anyway.*

"John Stewart isn't interested in finding facts"
He already knew the facts. The facts came from the guy he was talking to, Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich. He was the one who confirmed that there was no massive voter fraud in his state, that there were fewer than 20 cases in 4 million votes, and who confirmed that Trump's assertions about hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots were baseless.

The point Stewart was powerfully making was that the Arizona Attorney General was refusing to make the simple statement that Trump was wrong, that Biden won the election in 2020, or that it was not stolen or fraudulent.

Shouldn't an Attorney General be honest, as well as truthful? Especially knowing that so many people believe lies about what he'd investigated?

* Trump knew he'd lost:
"MARK MILLEY:

So we're in the Oval and there's a discussion going on. And the President says, I think — it could have been Pompeo, but he says words to the effect of, yeah, we lost. We — we need to let that issue go to the next guy, meaning President Biden.

ALYSSA FARAH:

I remember maybe a week after the election was called, I popped into the Oval just to like give the President the headlines and see how he was doing. And he was looking at the TV and he said, can you believe I lost to this effing guy?

CASSIDY HUTCHINSON:

Mark raised it with me on the 18th. And so following that conversation with the motorcade ride driving back to the White House, I said, look, does the President really think he lost? And he said, you know, a lot of times he'll tell me that he lost, but he wants to keep fighting it. He thinks that there might be enough to overturn the election, but you know, he — he pretty much has acknowledged that he — that he's lost."

[lightbulb27]

yep, he's not saying something is so til all cases are closed, but is saying as well... they won't matter.

[Asker]

How would the result of 20 cases affect the result of an election won by about 12,000 votes? No, Arizona's Attorney General is not being honest. He's giving cover to the people who are outright lying about the election he knows wasn't stolen.

[lightbulb27]

he's a lawyer. he said investigations aren't done... he's a lawyer, til it's closed... he won't say that.
Biden is president, Trump should have conceded but vowed to fight next time. his downfall is his ego. his strength is his ego.

[Asker]

You really believe that a state AG can't make a general statement that the election wasn't stolen because fewer than 20 people are still on trial? The margin was 12,000, and there are always a few bad apples in every election. Elections are always called and certified despite small irregularities. I bet he wouldn't hedge on MTG's election.

[lightbulb27]

similar behavior with the guy that ran the "Russia" investigation/dossier. he left the door open but said couldn't find sufficient.. or something like that. they dont like to close doors and go back on what they said if something changes. and of course, it be career limiting move. as I said, there is fundamental distrust on both sides...
they are lawyers... this is a reason I don't like lawyers running everything:)... and bean counters.

[Asker]

It was totally different with the Mueller investigation. Mueller wasn't allowed to indict the sitting President, but clearly stated that Russia did interfere in the election, and documented where his investigation was obstructed, sometimes by people he got convicted (and Trump pardoned), 10 of them by Trump, himself. He even went so far as to explicitly state that the report did not exculpate Trump.

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich is a Republican first and a lawyer second. He could absolutely say there is no evidence that the election was stolen, there is no evidence of the fraudulent ballots Trump was claiming, the few cases of voter fraud could not possibly have affected the result of the election, in short: Biden won. But he won't. He's not honest.

[nawtee_me]

If I said no would I be lying? I think not... I am a republican and I try not to lie. But to be honest don't all people lie a little bit? Do these pants make my butt look big? We all have had to answer that one...

[Asker]

The question is, though, can you run for election in the Republican party without lying about the 2020 election? At this point the best anyone can hope for are lies of ommission. "Lots of people believe the election was stolen" (because of the lies they've been told), "there were nearly 20 cases of fraud" (out of 4 million votes).

[Avicenna]

It's strange that Democrats studiously ignore their beloved politicians who claim they didn't lose fair and square in 2016 (Saint Hillary) and 2018 (Saint Stacy). Or the ones that claim the 2000 election wasn't won by Bush 43 (too many to count, including former Va Governor McAuliffe and Jan. 6 committee member Jaime Rankin).

Democrats never call them election deniers, liars, etc. So how about it Democrats- are your beloved politicians liars and election deniers?

[ShadezMcgee]

No, let's clear the air and be real here. It doesn't matter which side you are on. If you are a politician, you lie. Democrats are the genital warts of society and Republicans are gutless turds. Both parties have these things in common.

1.) Both lie

2.) Both cheat

3.) Both really don't care about the people they represent until election time comes around to keep them in office vis vote so they can continue to fill their pockets with money

[abc3643]

I am no significant fan of Republicans, but many GOP voters are good decent people who would not lie. So, I have to disagree with Todd Rundgren.

[Asker]

He isn't talking about the voters, he is talking about the leaders. The voters believe their leaders. That's why the "Lots of people believe the election was stolen" not-quite lie is so popular; they believe that because they've been lied to and no Repubican leaders are calling out the lies or admitting the truth.

Watch this Arizona Republican squirm rather than admit that Trump "was wrong about" (not even "lied about") the election he knows and admits was fair. "Almost 20 criminal cases" out of four million votes. Trump was claiming he had proof of tens or hundreds of thousands of fraudulent ballots. Trump lied. No Republican will admit that because they'll be thrown out of the party.
https://youtu.be/olSSqRjFdlk

[hahahmm]

It tells me that he's not a deep thinker and he's had very limited interaction with other points of view in his life.

[Asker]

Do you mean that Repubican leaders don't have to lie about the 2020 election in order to stay in the party? Can you give me a counter-example?

[hahahmm]

"Lie" is your characterization... a year ago we were told it was lying to say Covid-19 originated in a Chinese lab. Now official investigators say it did. Some people believe Biden was elected fairly. Some don't. Some people trust everything "the government" and "big tech" say. Others do not.

[Asker]

"Now official investigators say it did." No, they don't. They say it came from the market.

"... lie until you get cornered and then you never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

He shut up, you went for another lie. People don't believe Biden won fairly because they've been lied to, and the "many people believe"/"Biden is the president" shtick is for people who don't want to repeat the lie, but won't call it out as a lie.

[Asker]

Sorry, I'm sure the site showed a different author to your last comment. Also, I hadn't looked at the evidence for a while (although new evidence coming out of a GOP Senate report weeks before an election is always extremely suspect). I'll look at that and leave you with this:

People believe Biden didn't win fairly because they've been lied to, and the "many people believe"/"Biden is the president" shtick is for people who don't want to repeat the lie, but won't call it out as a lie.

The Arizona AG in this video explains how there were fewer than 20 cases of voter fraud detected over 4 million votes, that there's no evidence of massive fraud, but refuses to state that Trump was wrong in his claims of tens or hundreds of thousands of cases of fraud, and that Biden won the state fair and square.

https://youtu.be/olSSqRjFdlk

[Asker]

The interim GOP (not bipartisan) Senate report www.help.senate.gov/.../..._of_covid-19_102722.pdf bases its conclusion ("more likely than not", hardly definitive) on "a lack of evidence supporting the theory that COVID-19 was passed from animals to humans". They do reference these two studies that found the market was the source, notes 17 www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/science.abp8715 and 48 www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abp8337, but decide that because there are still questions, they can conclude those studies are wrong and the more inflammatory conclusion right. I'm unconvinced.

I still don't understand why people think knowing this makes any difference to how the pandemic was handled once it started, and the fact that the science is still looking into it three years later shows that people were LYING if they said they KNEW where it came from. And saying they "knew" it came from the lab (or, worse, was spread deliberately) predictably resulted in attacks on people with Asian appearance.

If I said I knew that a die would come up six, I'd be lying, even though I might be proved right (which they haven't done with the origin story).

[AviatorTom]

The ability to lie while appearing to tell the truth is a required skill of all politicians... it's not dependent on any political party.

[Asker]

What lie do other party's candidates have to tell or at least not call out in order to be able to run for office?

[findacure4wokeness]

Most left leaning people are liars or dishonest at best. That's why they hate you asking to many Questions. They live in constant fear of painting themselves into a corner.

[Asker]

Try and get a right-winger to answer a simple yes/no question!

Did Trump plan to claim victory on election day even if he was clearly losing?

[findacure4wokeness]

Should the invaders get to vote?

[Asker]

See what I mean?

[findacure4wokeness]

Yes your a hypocrite. doing the very thing your accusing us of doing.

[Asker]

Who asked the first question? Me. Here it is again:

Did Trump plan to claim victory on election day even if he was clearly losing?

[TroyDT2]

Yawn. Just another "Everyone who disagrees with me is a liar, evil, whatever," myopic clown. Can't stand it when the right, left, or anyone else does that.

[Asker]

Was the 2020 presidential election stolen by the Democrats?

[TroyDT2]

How could it have been?

[Asker]

It couldn't, and there's no evidence for it. But Republicans, when asked, will point to dozens of cases from millions of ballots to avoid answering that yes or no question (which, by the way, you didn't answer with yes or no).

https://youtu.be/olSSqRjFdlk

[Asker]

“The fact is, the election in Arizona was well-run, not fraudulent and not stolen from Donald Trump, according to even your investigation,” Stewart continued. “Why can’t you say the election in 2020 was not stolen or fraudulent?”

[Asker]

Now, finally, the AG is saying claims of election fraud are horseshit. A bit late.

[Sabretooth]

More so now. I don't see any real difference between the parties... Usually... Both parties lie... It's just... For right now--the Republican party is far worse.

[GrapeApe98]

If there's anything I've learned about republicans these past couple of years, is that lying is as natural to them as breathing

[ChefPapiChulo]

Yes that’s one of the current problems GOP are facing. Most likely because they have don’t know what issues to run on.

[Hypermotard1916]

A slave cannot see freedom beyond what his masters provide.

A leftist cannot see truth beyond what establishment provides.

[Asker]

A poet!

Do you think that enough people believe something, that makes it true?

[Hypermotard1916]

It is not that simple sir, if so then everyone will be galleleo, darwin, voltarie, etc...

Belief is a driving force, in magnitude and direction, karma is consequence of action you take based on belief. You can say karma can be good or bad, but karma is inevitable. I believe that truth is correlated to karma.

Coming to your question, if you can some how ignore the power of trust or propaganda, it should be inevitably "partially true" due to experience everyone faced. No matter how chaotic, summation of it will point to in direction of collective karma that is "partial truth". Only cosmos have the "full truth".

Now the power of trust is that you take the others close to you and their experiences for true. Propaganda is same thing done by the one in power to manipulate the truth. It will fade away over time like dinosaurs did.

[Hypermotard1916]

I am not a republican as a disclaimer, but they accept that they are humans under the command of god, unlike democrats who believe that the science that humans created is foolproof and safe from our propaganda.

[Asker]

I'm sure no Republican would ever cherry-pick the bible to support their politics.

Science, that humans did indeed create, isn't foolproof, but does slowly move in the direction of truth. It relies on the assumption that what we know probably isn't an absolute truth, but as close as we've got to it so far. Come up with a better explanation for what you're looking at than anything that has gone before, and that becomes the new standard. (But be careful, "better" means it has to explain all the facts that led to the old theory as well as any deviation from that theory, preferably anticipating a fact that hasn't been established yet.)

Religion and propaganda go the other way: this is what we say is true, ignore anything that contradicts what we say.

[Hypermotard1916]

i never supported religious doctrine, but you failed to understand that anything created by humans can be misguided by humans, whether it be religious doctrine or science or economics or politics.

Refer to Paul Feyerabend's epistemological anarchy. He has the best doctrine for science so far " anything goes..."

What I believe is that communities created by religion are far stronger than that created by science, So much so that people can jump into unknown with courage.(In fact most of ancient, medieval and renessance scientists are actually religious...)

[Asker]

Religious people were the only ones with the free time to develop science, everyone else was trying to live while the church and the state were taking their money.

I don't know Paul Feyerabend, but science is not about anything goes, it's about accepting facts.

[genericname85]

in order to be a politician in general, you gotta be a liar.

[Asker]

What lie do Democratic politicians have to tell not to get primaried and thrown out of office?

[genericname85]

they have to tell a bunch of lies about all the great things they are going to do for their voters in order to get into office in the first place. once they are in office, they can do what they want. but they have top lie to get there.

[genericname85]

or remember the lies about voter fraud from both camps?

[Asker]

" or remember the lies about voter fraud from both camps? "
No, I do not remember lies about voter fraud from Democrats. Tell me one.

[genericname85]

Clinton said. “I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did

it's just amazing to me how people have such short memory when it comes to the nonsense their preferred party did. i'm by the way not a trump fan. they're all liars and they all tell the same lies over and over but people forget.

[genericname85]

trump made a big wave about voter fraud and people acted as if that was somehow special when hilary litterally just did the same shit last election when she lost

[Asker]

Which, out of "voter suppression and voter purging [] hacking [and] false stories" are voter fraud? And which didn't happen?

Hilary complained about those things, but she conceded on November 9th, the votes had been counted and she'd lost. She didn't keep on claiming she won the election for the next two years, and most importantly **she didn't pretend anything happened that didn't**.

Voter suppression: Reduced resources led to 5 hour queues to vote in Arizona. Maricopa County had 200 polling places in 2012, 60 in 2016. For 1.2 million voters. Countrywide, "minority voters are six times as likely as whites to wait longer than an hour to vote. Those disparities have persisted even within the same town or county"

Voter purging: Georgia's Secretary of State, running the election he was running in, purged nearly 200,000 people from voting rolls on the basis that they'd moved, although the USPO said that they hadn't.

Hacking: Well, duh.

False stories: Comey's letter, for example. Her emails.

[Asker]

On Oct. 17, 2016, Trump tweeted, "Of course there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day. Why do Republican leaders deny what is going on? So naive!" He was obviously planning to lie about that election, too.

[genericname85]

trump conceded defeat eventually too. but in their struggle to get to power, they lie and betray and bullshit people. that's just always the case and no party can wash their hands in innocence when it comes to this. it's dumb to point at one prty and claim that they're the only one doing it.

[genericname85]

it's always "some greater evil trying to take over the American democracy" according to whomever is currently losing.

[Asker]

Trump made one speech under threat of conviction in his impeachment. Since then he's still claimed he could have been reinstated (a lie), and that people voted multiple times against him (a lie). Both in the last week. The United States is based on the principle of the peaceful and voluntary transition of power based on the results of elections. Trump broke that tradition. It remains to be seen if the Republican party has chosen to end it forever.

[genericname85]

well if we'd be going with the racist democrats, we'd still have slavery in the usa. remember that. republicans ended slavery, not democrats. there's both very negative and very positive aspects to either side.

biden for example spent years getting rich by scammnig the ukraine. he sold them gasprom gas for a higher price, telling them it's EU gas, cause it was technically gas meant to be shipped to the EU. and now that the ukraine is a relevant strategical location for the USA, he suddenly helps these suckers that he scammed for years.

[genericname85]

i'm too lazy to google up that shit. i'm not even American. but i guarantee you that trump isn't the only president who broke with the "peaceful and voluntary transition of power".

[Asker]

Today's Republican party is not like the Republican party of 50 years ago, let alone 150 years ago.

" i guarantee you that trump isn't the only president who broke with the "peaceful and voluntary transition of power". "
I'm talking about American presidents, and he most certainly is.

[CloudMassacre]

I think to be any party line politician you have to be a liar

[Asker]

Do you get thrown out of the other party for not lying?

[CloudMassacre]

Basically yeah

[Asker]

Really? When? The only ones I remember leaving resigned.

[CloudMassacre]

The 2016 election where superdelegates were used to push Hillary over Bernie, and in the 2020 election when they filled the ballot with soft progressive candidates including Elizabeth Warren to cut into the Bernie votes to push Biden for their own political gain. So they all work together saying they’re progressive but then back the most corporate establishment democrat. AOC and “The Squad” being a progressive upstart but once they get to power, Nancy Pelosi swoops in and tells them how to vote.
Shit like that

[Asker]

So who lied, exactly?

[CloudMassacre]

All the candidates saying they’re progressive and then backing “I don’t want my kids growing up in a racial jungle” Biden over Bernie who has over 40 years of progressive voting history

[Asker]

And who got thrown out of the party for telling the truth?

[CloudMassacre]

People aren’t Directly thrown out, they just get every political bullshit maneuver pulled on them or they’re co-opted into going silent on their progressive issues and voting with the party. Politically thrown out

[Asker]

Do they lose their primaries?

[CloudMassacre]

They do if they aren’t going to tow the party line

[Asker]

So Sinema and Manchin are out?

[CloudMassacre]

How are they not towing the party line?

[Asker]

Are you serious?

Sinema voted against raising the federal minimum wage. Her own state has a $12.80 minimum wage.

The both voted not to exclude HR.1 from the filibuster which was the only way it could possibly have passed. The bill was not only supported by 67% of voters but 56% of Republican voters. The first and arguably most consequential bill put forward by the new Democratic majority.

[exitseven]

To be a successful politician of any party you need to lie.

[Anonymous]

Just another artist that gains a few fans (I emphasize "a few". I've never heard if this guy), and think that qualifies him to tell others how to think and vote. Nothing to see here.

[ODC2112]

To get votes, you must be a liar. People don't vote for honest candidates.

[Cubus]

In overall in order to be a politician you have to be liar.

[MountAverage]

To be a Republican politician? Yes.

[Asker]

They can't admit the truth.

[Quigly]

Liar has more to do with corporations and Wallstreet. It's how they make their money.

[OddBeMe]

speaking in generalities will usually get you in trouble

[Anonymous]

Who? Todd Rundgren? Wow. Didn’t realize he was still alive. Guess msnbc is desperate for guests.

[Opinion Owner]

Nope. Not gonna give your president with dementia legitimacy after spending four years saying the one you didn’t vote for was a Russian puppet. You’re just gonna have to live with the consequences

[Anonymous]

No but would I take advice from Ozzy Osbourne's body double
my answer is already told

[Wise4myage]

Wow, is this guy ever clueless. I guess he believes all of Bidens lies.

[Asker]

I think he's got you pegged.
"... never apologize for lying, you never admit that you lied, you just shut up at that point or go on to another lie"

[Wise4myage]

Sounds like the liberal way.

[Asker]

Name a "Biden lie".

[888theGreat]

Wrong party , to be a Democrat , you must be a liar and anti American

[Asker]

What's American? Isn't it a republic, where the power lies with the people? Doesn't that require elections, and leaders abiding by them?

[888theGreat]

fair elections. You can't have Republicans claiming voter fraud and put in jail and Democrats saying voter fraud and then overturning elections they didn't like results

[Asker]

When did "Democrats say[] voter fraud and then overturn[] elections they didn't like results"?

[888theGreat]

That be Democrats giving positions of our troops to the enemy. Democrats trying to get rid of Constitution. That be Democrats giving home addresses of Supreme Court Justices so they could be killed. That would be Democrats trying to kill children with abortion and vaccines they don;t need. That would be Democrats sending all American Jobs to China. That would be Democrats protecting China over Covid. I could go on for hours

[Asker]

That would be pointless, since none of those things happened, and many are things that Republicans have done. Like Trump sharing a photo of him with a SEAL team.

[Anonymous]

No, I do not agree with that.

[Asker]

Why not? Who was the last Republican official who said the election was not stolen?

https://youtu.be/olSSqRjFdlk

[Asker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olSSqRjFdlk

[Opinion Owner]

You don't have to be a liar to be a Republican.

[Asker]

Can you be a Republican and state unequivocally that Biden won the election fair and square? Or that Jan 6th was an attack on American democracy?

Is it really good enough not to lie, or should they tell the truth about the worst event in US history?

[Opinion Owner]

You might as well say you need to be a liar to be a liberal or democrat too.

[Asker]

You can be a liar and one of the others, but it's not compulsory. Who was the last Republican official who said the election was not stolen? Once, two years ago is not enough.

[Part2603]

Uh huh. What is a woman?

[Asker]

What, exactly, are you trying to say?

[Part2603]

Just answer the question.

[Asker]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/woman#Noun

[Anonymous]

Yawn. 🙄

[Asker]

So, can you be a successful Republican politician and admit that Biden won fair and square?