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I'm starting to think it was a crime he hired that guy to commit!! I just heard an hour ago that the broken window was broken from the INSIDE!! WHY would this nut case need to break the window if he was already inside? There's cameras all over the outside of the place but they have NO video? Why is there no body-cam footage from the police as they entered the house? Who opened the door for the police when they knocked? It WASN'T Pelosi!! We're told that DePape kept saying, "Where's Nancy?" If there was a WORKING body-can on the cops, audio of him saying that would exist!! I smell a skunk and the wind's coming from Pelosi''s direction!!
Maybe you should make a freedom of information act request for the bodycam footage. The people who lied to you about the window being broken from inside have apparently never seen the footage of Umbrella Man (remember him, the guy who started the looting?). There's glass everywhere outside the building. (Skip the first minute.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFvRD7w6DoA
The point is that half the glass lands on the outside of the window when it's smashed. That's the totality of the right-wing "evidence" that Pelosi's window was "broken from the inside".
Just like how the attacker slept within sight of a BLM flag is their "proof" that he's a left winger, and not the QAnon, election, covid, Holocaust denying conspiracy theorist right winger he himself said he is.
The David guy has a history of gay prostitution arrests. Paul Pelosi hired a homo escort to hammer his asshole... All was going to plan until Can't Touch This was selected randomly on his music list shuffle.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/otCpCn0l4Wo To be honest, nothing surprises me anymore. I find that to be true. Notice how his recent drunk driving car accident happened when Nancy was out of the country? Now the hammer head incident happened in the early morning hours as well and Nancy was in D. C. that day.
Just because you look to be a well groomed rich man, doesn't mean you are straight.
So, he us most likely a butt bandit and a weirdo.
The left is trying to blame the crazy 🔨 hammer crime on - you guessed it - Trump and the January 6th incident.
They say it was Republicans that did this to poor Paul Pelosi.
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I think that someone should sue the hammer manufacturer and that a bill should be proposed to ban their manufacture and sell.
At the very least we’ve got to set limits on their use.
An immediate option would be to limit the weight and length of any hammer to be no more than two pounds and with a maximum handle length of no more than eight inches.
For God’s sake something has to be done.
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It's amazing how fast the media dropped this story once the police report got released.
David doesn't sound like he into his wife anymore.
I thought the thing Musk said was a joke, or prank?
It was a violent political attack directed at the Speaker of the House by someone who believed disgusting lies like yours. The attacker was planning to break her kneecaps if she didn't tell him his "truth".
Don't be silly.
Depape thought he was De Pape of the town, and would hammer home his grievances. But was such a loser that even a slick but decrepit old man got the better of him.
The guy has serious anger management issues. He broke into the house to hurt Nancy Pelosi, and when he discovered that she wasn't there, he did the next best thing, hurt her husband.
You're not up to date on the news that is going dark about this incident.
The police report is now public. There was a third person who opened the door. And his attacker was a pro-gay homeless guy. When the police got to the scene, David and Depaion we're wrestling around on the floor.
@Qdbrown Oh. More lies. The federal affidavit says he believed that Democrats were telling lies and wanted to kidnap Pelosi and possibly even break her kneecaps. www.justice.gov/.../man-charged-assault-and-attempted-kidnapping-following-breaking-and-entering-pelosi-residence
It was Clinton-Pelosi tag team cause Nancy can’t take him by herself. We already know that Hillary has a good right….
I think the New York post already talked about Mr. DePapes history of homosexuality and prostitution arrests.
@Guy___ I don’t think he’s a political class member or a lizard person or a tranny, I think he’s just being taken advantage of by Rich powerful Democrats and finally had enough.
It was a crime of delusion egged on by MAGA propaganda.
nancy p had this arranged somehow. She can’t or won’t get him under the sheets so I’m guessing she wants him 6 feet under.
Do we know the motivation? For all we know it's just some psycho who saw a mansion and decided to invade it.
Yes, we do. And we've know since before you posted that "On a blog and website, he was fixated on censorship and made antisemitic comments. In one post, he ranted about government attempts to control information, calling for the arrest of journalists from prominent news organizations. He also posted COVID and election conspiracy theories online and made posts about QAnon." and “Suspect who authorities say attacked Paul Pelosi shouted ‘Where is Nancy? Where is Nancy?’ before the ‘violent assault,'”
On the 30th, three days ago, we knew: "“This was not a random act. This was intentional. And it’s wrong,” [SFPD Police Chief] Scott said, noting that elected officials’ families “don’t sign up for this… Everybody should be disgusted about what happened this morning.”"
The only thing I'm sure of is that this dude was 100% not a "maga" republican.
This particular lie is: "He’s an illegal immigrant hippy who supports BLM". What's your "evidence"?
The other lies you tell are about the election, covid, masks, vaccines, and so on. The attacker believes all that, follows QAnon and believes the party that still wants elections is tyranical.
They don't have homes. Did you ever consider there might be people with different points of view from his living there? His online presence shows what he was thinking.
"A blog, website and social media accounts under the name of the suspect seen by the BBC are filled with anti-Semitic memes, Holocaust denial, references to far-right websites and conspiracy theories such as QAnon.
He also posted debunked allegations of election fraud. His recent posts were rambling and touched on a host of far-right and extremist talking points."
So you keep ignoring the facts about what he himself said he believed: "anti-Semitic memes, Holocaust denial, references to far-right websites and conspiracy theories such as QAnon... debunked allegations of election fraud... far-right and extremist talking points."
He occasionally stayed in a old school bus on the street.
Keep lying about what he himself said he believed: "anti-Semitic memes, Holocaust denial, references to far-right websites and conspiracy theories such as QAnon... debunked allegations of election fraud... far-right and extremist talking points."
You know, your kind of lies. Like you're doing right now.
Ah, that was going to be my next question: Which of those lies go beyond what you're comfortable with?
So Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism. Fine.
QAnon? Was there a deep throat in the intelligence community giving cryptic information to the faithful, or was it some jerk from somewhere like 4chan?
No, I said those are the kind of lies you tell, not that they're lies you've told.
You use the same denial of reality, science, or the official position, regardless of all the evidence, to deny that vaccines and masks work, in exactly the same way they deny the Holocaust. Once you get someone to doubt, you're well on your way to getting them to believe even more outragious lies.
It's good so see you still have some self-respect, but I wonder where your limit is, hence the question QAnon: real or bullshit?
OK, so how is you saying all the scientists are wrong, the CDC made up the study that showed that those who were fully vaccinated were 90% less likely to become infected, New York didn't really find a 14x difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated people being admitted to hospital etc. IN ESSENCE different from saying they don't know how many people were killed in the Holocaust, they made up the evidence, the Nazis couldn't possibly have killed that many, they're lying to you, they all died of a disease?
It's the same kind of "argument", and they both get people killed if enough people believe them.
@goaded Not all the scientists are wrong. That's another line of bullshit you pull. Yes, the 90% effective stat was a lie. Always was. And you're conflating 'getting covid' with 'going to the hospital'. Those are two different things. You can't be intellectually honest even in one reply.
As usual. you accuse people on the right of actions you take. It's a typical leftist tactic.
You still haven't described the essential difference between your vaccine, let's call them claims, and Holocaust denialists'. They weren't sure, they claimed 11 million before settling on 6 million dead, the documentation was destroyed so you can't know, it probably never happened, we'd like to do it again. What makes yours more believable?
No, it's not a "leftist tactic", memory and honesty are the leftist superpowers.
How often have you gone to the hospital with a cold, or even flu? The fact remains that for every 100,000 in the vaccinated/unvaccinated population, the latter represented 14 times as many hospital admissions for a while in NY.
I'd say "prove it", but it's simply a distraction from the point you don't want to answer.
What is the essential difference between your vaccine "claims", and Holocaust denialists'? They say: they weren't sure, they claimed 11 million before settling on 6 million dead, the documentation was destroyed so you can't know, it probably never happened, with an implicit we'd like to do it again.
What makes yours more believable?
How often have you gone to the hospital with a cold, or even flu? The fact remains that for every 100,000 in the vaccinated/unvaccinated population, the latter represented 14 times as many hospital admissions for a while in NY.
I'm talking about your words, and you're avoiding the very important question because you have no answer. There is no essential difference between your vaccine "claims", and Holocaust denialists'.
How are their lies different from your lies about covid, vaccines, masks?
Both want people to ignore facts and undermine the system that does occasionally screw up, but generally does a good job. Both lies predictably lead to deaths.
Oh, and the difference with Biden's speech: it wasn't a lie. (And the incident you're trying to directly connect to it was two weeks later.)
You won't acknowledge that the Holocaust happened. I can only think of two possibilities: it would involve you telling the truth, and that's against your philosophy, or you are really a Holocaust denier who doesn't want to admit it. Neither is a good look for you.
You lying about me is just par for the course.
But you're always lying, so it's reasonable to expect you to. Did the Holocaust happen?
The arguments against it are almost exactly the same as your lies about covid, vaccines, and masks.
Besides, it's always fun to watch you rush back with another lie. Bet you respond again within 10 minutes.
@goaded: Just stop lying and gaslighting people. You are not a US citizen and have no personal interest in Paul Pelosi or any of the other topics you lie and gaslight about.
As someone who's descended from Holocaust survivors, I ask you stop likening people who disagree with your claims here on GAG to Holocaust deniers. @joeldalton is not a Holocaust denier so stop harassing him and claiming he is one.
@goaded: You embarrass yourself by accusing everyone who disagrees with you or has a different perspective of "lying". You do not have some monopoly on the truth. No one does.
And even if what you say about what he has posted about COVID were true (and I don't agree with you that he is "lying" nor would I say he's "mistaken"), it does not mean he is a Holocaust denier (the fallacy of that should be crystal clear to you). You really make a fool of yourself by claiming that. And you wouldn't want to be analogized to the people who have used the same psychological tactics you use here on GAG.
@Avicenna What would you say he is, when he's talking about Covid? If not lying, not mistaken, then what? Is he right, and the CDC wrong? If he thinks the CDC is wrong when it performs a scientific study, or New York government is wrong when they count vaccinated and unvaccinated admissions to hospital, why are you so sure he doesn't think the history books are wrong about the Holocaust? He wouldn't be the first person on here to do so.
It's disingenuous of you to suggest I call anyone with a "different perspective" a liar, because I don't. I call people who repeatedly state untruths liars, and he does it like he breathes.
I have never said that being a Covid denier means you're a Holocaust denier, either. All I am saying is that the form of argument against the truth is very similar, and we're only talking about that because the attacker believed that sort of lie about Covid and the Holocaust (and election fraud, and QAnon...).
The obvious answer that any reasonable person would give when asked about the Holocaust is "yes, of course it happened", not "you've never seen me deny it".
Demanding a reasonable response to a reasonable question or argument from a troll may be stupid, but it's not embarrassing.
@goaded: Do you go around in daily life asking people out of the blue if they are Holocaust deniers? No, you don't. It's not reasonable behavior and it's not reasonable to suggest that someone is a Holocaust denier because you don't like what they have to say on a completely unrelated topic. Nor is he a troll and he understandably is disgusted by your "interrogation techniques". You are deliberately conflating unrelated things to create a false impression.
You do call people who disagree with you liars and that's part of a very negative and dishonest behavior pattern on your part. And I don't understand this pathological fascination you, someone who isn't a US citizen and doesn't reside in the US, have with US politics and targeting US citizens. That is stuff that hostile foreign countries do on social media, using small kernels of truth mixed with lots of mis/disinformation, a tactic I've called you out for before.
In a nutshell, your behavior is not reasonable in the least. That you continue to defend it does not indicate to me that these are honest disagreements on your part.
@Avicenna I didn't ask him "out of the blue". @joeldalton said the attacker was a BLM supporter, based on the fact that he slept within 10m of a BLM flag at least once.
I explained that the attacker believed lies like the ones he tells, and listed some of the beliefs the attacker himself espoused, as listed by the BBC. One of them was Holocaust denial, unfortunately Covid conspiracy theories were left out, they were on another site https://heavy.com/news/david-depape/ . His reaction was that he'd not denied the Holocaust. At first I accepted that as proof that he wasn't a denier, but pointed out that the arguments that both Holocaust deniers and Anti-Vaxxers use are very similar. (You can't trust the government, those numbers can't possibly be right, they're just trying to control you, etc.) Why are you so sure that he's not? Believe it or not, I would accept his word for it.
Of course he's a troll. Anyone else would simply answer a question or shut up. He literally posted: "I like watching you throw an autistic fit" (as he responds within minutes to every post I make with one sentence, usually a lie).
I've called maybe a handful of people on here liars, less than one a year. They have all deserved it. Feel free to show me a counter example.
Skipping the ad hominem of my location, I don't really care if you think my disagreements are honest or not, I know they are.
@goaded lmao. You're like Roland Cuthburt. He, too believes himself to be some deep, well-meaning philosopher. But in the end you are both partisan hacks. The ultimate pretense is that I should feel obligated to explain to you whether I am a holocaust denier or not. So I won't answer out of pure principle. It driving you nuts is just sprinkles on the ice cream cone.
It's yet another pejorative the authoritarian left uses to try to smear their political opponents. And we all know why you do it... it's because you actually can not debate any real policy from an intellectually honest opinion because your political views fall apart under any logical scrutiny.
@goaded: It is simply not normal or healthy for someone to spend his days doing what you do here on GAG- harassing US citizens about US politics, something you don't fully understand in the first place.
The arguments you make in calling him a Holocaust denier are truly embarrassing. But you confirm that you cannot handle a difference in opinion, and you definitely can't handle people calling you on your BS.
@Avicenna Called it: he says Holocaust Denial is neither Evil or Morally Incorrect.
Is Holocaust Denial Evil or Morally Incorrect? ↗
@goaded: Don't you have something better to do with your life? He's not a Holocaust denier, no matter how you try your usual distortions and misrepresentations. And I asked you not to do this when it comes to the Holocaust and Holocaust denial.
And you're the same guy that wasn't one bit horrified at synagogue burnings being declared protected political speech in Germany. When you've had the opportunity to stand up against anti-Semitism, you have not stepped up. And there is, sadly, plenty of real anti-Semitism spewed on GAG.
@Avicenna Nope, I'm bored. I'm impressed that you're so sure, when he hasn't even said he isn't, but is fine with, presumably, other people doing it.
When did I say I wasn't "one bit horrified at synagogue burnings being declared protected political speech in Germany"? It was obviously a stupid and wrong decision. It was in one lower court case, and the (Palestinian) perpetrators went to prison. It certainly hasn't led to a spate of them (that case was 9 years ago, during the war in Gaza that killed 2000 Palestinians).
@joeldalton Do you still think that's an insult? Grow up.
@joeldalton What's the difference between someone, like you, who sees nothing morally wrong in holocaust denial and honest holocaust denial? The honesty? You're both equally wrong.
That's your cue to make another stupid insult to protect you fragile ego from having to say you're wrong.
I think he was passionate about QAnon, yeah.
I think all of Jan 6ers crimes were of passion. Doesn’t mean they aren’t crimes…
Hate is passion. Yes.
Very strange events.
I want to know who the hammer belonged to?
I think it was a hoax
Too bad Nancy was not home
Its looking like that, more and more.
ultimately.
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