What do you think about the war between Ukraine and Russia?

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Russia has warned Ukraine. Russia is very cautious about Nato. There is a group (NATO) that threatens the country (Russia). Russia thought about taking measures for this.

Pyrofox · Accepted Answer

I think it's an apsolute embarrassing hot mess for Russia. In the current state just about any other country with a half decent military could easily squish Russia at this point.

Russia is using military assets from the cold war and wwII and hasn't faced a centralized military in 60 years. 🤣 And it shows. Russia use to be the 2nd most powerful military and it's losing to the 22nd most powerful military. 😐

Ukraine is being led in terms of US support by mostly soldiers from the US are mostly either veteran status or haven't been in combat for 5-10 YEARS. And they are holding back Russians 🤣🤣 at this point a full on war with any major real military power vs Russia would be like a 300 lbs kicker in American football punting an egg at this rate. If Russia's elite tanks are having both the MG and tank turrets jam live in combat... I don't wanna know how fcked their nukes are 🤡. At the current rate I wouldn't be surprised if Russia's nukes are cold war era and the booster engines on the missiles are in a similar state to Chernobyl 🤯

Not to mention most of Russia's air Force are using dummy bombs. That are unguided low AND MORE IMPORTANTLY "SLOW" flying air strikes. For a military power that is suppose to be rival to the US it's pretty moronic to send your most expensive pilots and planes directly into the range of Qaams and javilins 😐.

Not to mention having not one but like 3 generals die in combat 1-2 go missing back at home and now a like 6th general has been instated 🧐

As if that's not embarrassing enough just about every war pre Ukraine and between the lines of like the cold war was fighting soldier based rebellions that had almost zero response to an apc or tank. So it's like no wonder Russia was way over confident. 😐

It doesn't help that Russian military relies mostly on training that relies heavily on fear and hazing. Most Russian soldiers dont usually make it past 1-2 years. Meaning there is an enormous gap between privates and the actual leadership. 😱 Yes generally speaking to reach the rank of like srg. Or Lt. We're talking like 3-4+ years experience. Meaning most of Russia's military is lead by a skeleton crew. Leaving the masses with no clue what's going on.

jshm2 · Accepted Answer

Ukraine will learn just like Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan and everyone else the USA "helped" that the USA isn't quite the friend they believe it to be.

Aerissa_Jade · Accepted Answer

NATO a defensive alliance cannot threaten to attack, certain members could go at it alone but there is no way to turn the defensive alliance into a offensive alliance.

It was never a threat to Russia, they just used it at a excuse, much as how they use rape as a weapon of war in Ukraine, raping women and children.

It is far time Ukraine starts hitting targets in Russia itself with terrorist attacks to get payback for the rape of its women and children. Set off a few dirty bombs in Moscow and other high population center and kill them all.

For every one person raped or killed in Ukraine kill a million Russians... and I hope Russian's end up living in fear for when the next terrorist attack could happen. It is far time they feel what they created, rather than let their neighbor live peacefully.

Russia can never win, even if they do, they'll be those suicide terrorist squads forever now... until they leave occupied territories.

Russia has also shown it see's treaties as something it doesn't need to follow, Budapest Memorandum is worthless. The rest of the world would be stupid to ever believe any treat that Russia signs. Ukraine should get nukes again to defend itself, as Russia has shown to be the aggressor.

Talldutchie · Accepted Answer

The USA has somewhat influence on almost any war and I'm tired of them playing world police. Having said that, people should stop killing each other, Putin deserves prison for life and Ukraine shouldn't join the NATO as they once agreed on with Russia. Boom.

Oigit · Answer

It was set in motion back in the Bush years and continued into the Obama years. This conflict should be look at as more of a conflict between Russia, Ukraine and the US with NATO bringing up the rear. Because our government very much pushed for Ukraine to become interdependent and also provided various forms of military aid when both Bush and Obama where in office. Also the rest of NATO in a lot of ways fallowed our government into it

So this conflict has been brewing for a long time. It just so happened to finally boil over now. At this point we now have a proxy war between Russia and the US with Ukraine. Also the idea of the conflict having any kind of diplomatic is pretty much gone at this point. Our government is using Ukraine as a attack dog and people with in our government are more then likely going to keep giving Ukraine military and push them to keep fighting tell they can't. More then likely this conflict isn't going to be over any time soon and as time rolls on this moving from a proxy war to a full blown war between us and Russia becomes more likely.

Of course if it does turn into a full on war many people demanding that we help Ukraine will refuse to enlist and fight it. Because the vast majority of you arm chair generals are to pathetic and weak to put your money where your mouth is.

RealMarek · Answer

If you believe corporate media sources and politicians from any side are telling you the truth about this conflict, think again. There are some hints about which side is winning. Is the ruble rubble like Uncle Joe promised it would be? No. Is the Russian economy ruined? No, they are making much more money on exports since the sanctions than before the sanctions. They are making enough money to continue to fund the war indefinitely. Is inflation in the West skyrocketing? Yes. Energy and food costs are crushing all but the elite in Europe and will be severe in parts of the US this winter. We might see people in Europe go cold and deal with blackouts this winter. Industries in Europe have been shutting down, which is the only way they can reduce the cost of energy. What is certain is that the cost of energy in Europe is structurally higher even if they can find enough supply, and Europe will deindustrialize. Have US bond auctions had trouble due to lack of buyers? Well, yes, because the US has confiscated the dollar reserves of two countries now (Afghanistan, sending that population into starvation, and Russia), so non-Western entities are hesitant to buy US bonds due to the risk of having them stolen if they piss off Washington. What will this do? It will push up the yield on US treasuries, thus forcing the economy to allocate more capital into servicing public and private debt and presenting a headwind for economic growth. Has the US succeeded in isolating Russia from the support of its allies? No. China and Russia are tighter than ever and have an industrial capacity much greater than that of the West’s.

RavVid · Answer

I would recommend watching Alex Stubbs on youtube. A geopol academic, former Finnish Foreign Minister, former Finnish Prime Minister. He discusses the causes.

The Kissinger real politics school of thought says Ukraine should accept being a subordinate satellite of Russia- mostly for the benefit of other countries and peoples. But why should any country accept that is Stubbs reasonable point.

It was not Nato who was grinding towards Moscow, but those satellite states of the USSR wanting to be part of Europe who were leading the charge away from Russia. Look at Ukraine, at one point the third largest nuclear power. They gave up their entire stock of ICBMs in return for security guarantees from Russia, US, UK, France. More fool them.

What NATO threatens is RESISTANCE to Russian military invasion. It has article 5 which says an attack on one is an attack on all. It has no article that says if any member chooses to invade Russia it is an invasion by all. If Estonia is invaded by Russia then, yes, all NATO comes to their aide. But if Estonia decided to take back historic borders, it would be on it's own.

Plus, till the first invasion of Ukraine, Russia had a path to be slowly included into NATO or at least close embedded collaboration with it.

The NATO provocation theory is just a nonsense. I won't go through more otherwise it will be boringly long.

In reality it is Putin's dreams of empire and being a latterday Peter the Great that is what this war is about. Even as they were invading the Russian Duma was discussing who should be next.

by the way Xi Jenping has the same dreams of empire.

AmeerX · Answer

Ukrainians were mislead into thinking that NATO and EU is right for them.

I think I did do it even more vigorously then Russians if it was my country whom I ruled.

Though I do feel sorry for the Ukrainians. But Ukrainian president in 2013-14 was undemocratically made to leave his presidency. Why no one is talking about it is just appalling? Russia gave them a good financial package in exchange for not joining NATO and the EU.

I am just a no body in this scenario because I don't live anywhere near the two countries but I know there are people inside Ukraine who still liked the USSR and they did feel threatened. Many videos of people in Ukraine being treated badly for sympathies with Russians.

Why are we suffering because of there own quarrel? In Asia we are facing the inflation with electricity rates going as high as Europe. Surely, it is a fact I live in third world country but we are also suffering from the effect. Our per Capita incomes are 10 times less if not lesser than European countries but we are still working. I don't think the war ends soon. And I did give to Ukrainians to help them out but I think our American loving lapdogs of people ousted the sitting government for going to Russia and finally getting ousted in the process. I don't like Americans like most people but I like Ukrainians. They are very honourable, at least the ones I have met or traded. So, even now I am conflicted about the conflict. This war will have many losers.

Giving up nuclear weapons was a mistake but even with nuclear weapons my country leadership still waggles it's tail in front of US.

Astarlessnightsky · Answer

Russia just sent their army into ukraine killing a couple thousand people.

Urkaine responded, but was and is depending on foreign help, as its just a small country.

NATO is just an excuse as there never was any expansion of NATO in the last decades.

Now after Russia waged war, there are a couple of new Countries applying for joining Nato, and Nato Members are increasing their Military budget.

So basically Russia just commited ten thousand murders of Ukrainian citizen as well as on russian citizens, and made Nato as strong as ever.

BeMuse · Answer

Ukraine is getting slaughtered. They are losing 10 Ukrainians to every 1 Russian. They lost air superiority months ago and have no planes left. They have been out of soviet era tanks for a month now. Javelins have dried up and now they are only being supplied with Carl Gustafs which are not really useful for tanks, they are more geared toward APCs and technicals. Ukraine is also out of 155mm HE artillery round and will not be supplied any for at least a year. Seems they were supplied with 155mm anti-tank mine rounds instead in appeasement. Meanwhile Russia is drilling their infrastructure with drone strikes turning off the electricity for winter. That a bad place to be for Ukraine against an artillery heavy/tank heavy army like Russia that just called up 300,000 reservists.

Miristheiss · Answer

I think the invasion by Russia is 100% evil, I 100% hope they are defeated and that every soldier that crosses the border is killed. I want Ukraine to have all of their territory and all of their citizens to be safe and in health.

I like Russia, I like their culture and many of their people. I hate Putin.

My biggest wish is for Putin to die or be overthrown and for Russia to bring all of their troops back and to end the invasion immediately. As long as Russia continues their invasion of a peaceful neighbor and want them to be defeated.

It is an immoral attack... just like the invasions by Germany (against Poland, France, Russia... etc.), Russia (against Poland) and Japan (against China and the Pacific island countries) in WWII

Lionman95 · Answer

I think it can be a dangerous situation especially if the NATO and the EU let the Ukraine join their forces. Especially the last could lead into a world war. I think the situation is hopeless in a way that there will be no peace unless one party gives up fighting.

That´s so because both of sides have no interest in an ending the fight.

lightbulb27 · Answer

Highly dangerous and not beneficial to anyone. Its the equivalent of sending an Amazon package to every household on the globe... which is a fan pre-equipped with sewage to trash their house.

should be discussions by leaders to end it immediately.

wingattebaby16 · Answer

I see it as another Conflict.

The USA has given away over $70 Billion in "aid". Yet we are not in this Conflict.

We have issues at home that $70 Billion would go a long way to fix.

i personally feel Hunter Biden and The Big Guy owe the Ukraine a lot of money AND are being black mailed into giving our money away.

I think we should just Butt Out of it and let Russia and Ukraine do their own thing. The Ukraine was involved in a lot of criminal activities.

We need a Wall at home, veterans taken care of, and Democratic Mayors, Governors, and Nancy Pelosi all want more pay raises.. Defund the Police, give yourself a raise.

We need to butt out of the Ukraine Russia conflict.

Anonymous · Answer

"Russia has warned Ukraine. Russia is very cautious about Nato. There is a group (NATO) that threatens the country (Russia). Russia thought about taking measures for this."

Bullshit ^. NATO has never posed a threat to Russia. The only issue Russia has with NATO is that it is in place to protect peaceful nations from unlawful aggression by evil men like Putin. The purpose of NATO is to prevent the very sort of thing Russia has done in Ukraine.

mattdzz · Answer

I was amused at how poorly Russia's military did. Many people criticized US forces in Iraq that they could not quickly squash guerilla forces, but we did incredibly well (including during the invasion) militarily. Russia tried a ton of fancy stuff, including deploying their fancy weapons they had been bragging about, and completely failed to either launch a successful initial operation, or to sustain one. They look incredibly weak after this, and it will cost them their military readiness for at least a decade.

Malgaran · Answer

It's not up to Russia to decide if Ukraine wants to join nato or not, that's Ukraines choice. Not to mention, Russia promised Ukraine in their treaty to never invade Ukraine if they gave up their nukes, which they did. See how much worth their word was on that, so I hope Ukraine join Nato, obviously can't trust Russia. Break any promise or treaty to get whatever they want. There is no threat to Russia if every country in Europe joined Nato. The problem for them, is that they can't invade countries anymore on a whim for control or whatever excuse/reason.

Alexandrubaschet08 · Answer

RUSSIA HAD INVADE AN IDEPENDENT AND SUVERANT NATION.

ONE WHO DECIDED BY FREE ELECTION AND WILL OF NATION THEY WANT TO JOIN European Union!!! UKRAIN NEVER HAD INTENTION TO JOIN NATO BEFORE CRIMEA INVASION IN 2014.

USA HAD NOTHING TO DO WHIT THIS WAR, THIS ONE ARE DIRTY PROBLEMS UNSOLVED FROM 1945.

USA GIVE ECONOMIC SUPORT WHITCH COME BACK TO USA BY BUYING AMUNITIONS AND TEHNOLOGY FOR THIS WAR.

UKRAIN IS NOT THE ONLY NATION THAT IS TREATEN BY RUSSIA

RUSSIA HAD ALWASE BEEN LIKE THIS. READ HISTORY.

SLAVA UKRAINE!!! KILL THE INVADATOR, KILL THEM ALL!!!

888theGreat · Answer

Russia is winning. West is covering up losses Ukraine is mounting. Their cities have been destroyed. They lost a lot of men that can't be replaced with their offences. Russia is waiting for winter to attack again. This time double the tanks and 500,000 men. I predict they hit them straight on and break through then encircle and break Ukraine troops in to pockets.

Whatthefluff · Answer

Terrible. I've said it before and I'll say it again: if someone in Putin's inner circle could just end his life, I don't think anyone would be complaining

RolandCuthbert · Answer

The whole NATO lie has been fully debunked a thousand times over.  Russia was never worried about NATO. Putin thinks Ukraine and all of the former Warsaw Pact nations are his.

Anonymous · Answer

Europe has turned it's back on Russia for the time being. It'll be interesting to see if it continues to do so after the current administration ends.

I suspect difficult times ahead for Russia if it can't broker a deal with Europe. And a few other countries better play nicely otherwise they'll face secondary sanctions.

I hope that Ukraine manages to free itself. Seems like Europe needs a free Ukraine and doesn't necessarily need Russia although their resources would be handy.

It'll be interesting to see if Ukraine joins NATO in the future.

Sargentcaptain · Answer

Anyone who thinks this is about NATO is an utter cretin.

Telekinetic-Potato · Answer

I think Russia just really doesn't want a nato country right on its border. I think they'd rather bully and manipulate Ukraine into being a source of resources for them. They elected a Jewish guy as a leader and that probably sent a message that they're doing whatever they want.

katiesmuff · Answer

It's sad that one crazy man can create such a horrible situation!

LovingJo · Answer

Unnecessary and cruel, that's going to leave the world in devastation and misery!! 🥺💔

Aimer07 · Answer

Could've been avoided. When rich/powerful argue and wage war it's citizens who have to suffer. I'm against it. Now everyone has to suffer except the rich and powerful. They are still at the back sipping an expensive wine while all this is happening.

John_Doesnt · Answer

The war is secretly controlled by Hilary Clinton's lizard people who are being blackmailed by aliens who found Hunter Biden's laptop from a Jewish Space laser.

Steamnir · Answer

Serves US only europeans are easily lied to and their whole freedom propaganda is a big joke

KrakenAttackin · Answer

From the U. S. perspective, I am seriously concerned about all the money we are sending over, the parade of high-power liberal demons who visited, the Hunter Biden connection, and the reputation Ukraine has for corruption and money laundering.

TallAnon · Answer

My understanding:
Russia is poor and under-developed. Russia sees no way to catch up other than conquering others. Russia sees an easy target and attacks. Ukraine gets support to not be conquered. Russia is fucked, but can't back off now, otherwise they are poor, underdeveloped and easily beaten.

Anonymous · Answer

I want this war to be over. It only affects the innocent. Putin doesn't have a scratch on him just his soldiers and all the innocent Ukrainians that got injured or lost their lives. Putin only gives orders but doesn't get dirty. Just like Charles Manson got others to do his dirty work. I don't know how this is justified just cos this is the government?

whistlingwh0res · Answer

Russia want Ukraine because of better weather and farmland. Ukraine got independent at 1992. 30% of Ukraine speaks Russian and they consider themselves as Russian. It’s just expansion of Russian territory. Russia is too cold that they have to come down.

Ill_made_Knight · Answer

It is a war of aggression begun by Putin. He is therefor a war criminal. How often are war criminals held to account? See Cheney, Dick.

User3191989 · Answer

People who know nothing about Ukraine and Russia, as well as Putin and his EX KGB days, should not be talking. Look up what putin wants to do, then talk

Anonymous · Answer

Putin and his mafia members stole so much money from the people, that they can't fund their military anymore on their conquest.

Meh. War sucks hairy ass to say the very least. The people suffering the most are Ukrainians and the Russians secondly after them.

shibatafam · Answer

Millions of civilians are unable to return home. Many still in the country are forced to live without access to food, water, health care, and other essential supplies. This is not an isolated crisis—blockades of Ukrainian grain exports have worsened hunger in some of the world's most vulnerable regions

Anpu23 · Answer

I think that Putin made avery bad tactical error. He's losing the war and the fact that he invaded took any diplomatic solution off of the table. Now he keeps compounding the error with additional ones.

Anonymous · Answer

It all America and the Nato Watch this from 2007.

USLegionary · Answer

I think Russia has shown itself to be weak militarily and no longer a major world power.

Literalbillionaire17 · Answer

I don’t understand why it’s still going on. Ukrainians are whooping Putins ass like just leave them alone. He should have never invaded to begin with, he is a greedy monster.

melanieeeB · Answer

Stupid and unnecessary, so many innocent people are paying the price

dustybiker · Answer

“Look at my big muscles, I am awesome.” It’s childish bully mentality.

Twalli · Answer

Russia watedt to add Ukraine to their landmass for far longer than most people realize. The NATO thing is just a justification for something that they were already wanting to do

Anonymous · Answer

Why in this thread, there are some people trying to pull U. S. in a circumstances while they never mention how the other countries have impacted the wars?

genericname85 · Answer

it's not a war between ukraine and russia. it's a war between USA and Russia.

LadiesFavoriteToy · Answer

Round up all the Russian men shoot them, round up the women and children to be raped. Just do what they did to german women and children but for Ukraine.

carlgpfeifer · Answer

Ukarine has enough fire power to defend off Russia in the war Russia does not have a chance of winning the war in ukarine ukarine will win this war agained Russia

slatyb · Answer

Putin is a war criminal.

Fireguy17 · Answer

it can be over any time now. There will be no clear winner.

Dargil · Answer

I hope they can negotiate a cease fire. BOTH countries and the USA are at fault for the war.

Anonymous · Answer

I feel that I have my own problems in the US so I don’t care about another counties war. Especially counties that doesn’t even care about MY problems

Pudsmucker · Answer

Why is Russia entering into your crane as a hostile government?

Titanic1912 · Answer

It’s not something the USA should get involved with.

TroyDT2 · Answer

It has shown the incompetence of the Russian military strategists.

DailyAsk · Answer

Russia has every right to do what it’s doing, Period. no further comments.

bigslab · Answer

The Russians are evil and the people claiming that Ukraine is run by Nazi's are Half wits

boobliker · Answer

it is not good for any of us on this planit

HippieVeganJewslim · Answer

Putin is evil. There’s no reason to murder innocent Ukrainian civilians.

rohitbiruli008 · Answer

If USA stop arming Taiwan and Ukraine, then world will be at peace

Luopio27 · Answer

They should stop fighting.

OddBeMe · Answer

I love when Russians think we don’t know what’s going on…

ChefPapiChulo · Answer

Russia is a dirt poor country filled with corruption.

grega239 · Answer

Maybe e the west should have kept to itself but no. They just had to fuck around

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