Did you loose our second amendment rights back in the early 20th century?

[Stoner710]

Sure we have the right to have AR-15s AK-47s but this fire power won’t take down the federal government.

a lot of folk don’t quite understand what the second amendment designed to do. It’s not to preserve your right to hunt. Your 30.06 bolt action isn’t going to take down the federal government. It would help you in a home invasion or go hunting but it won’t take down the federal government.

the whole idea of the 2nd amendment was so the United States citizens could have the same fire power as the federal government so we could kill politicians (regardless if there blue or red). Yes the point of the second amendment is to kill politicians. If order for the United States people to have the 2nd amendment rights as indented we should all be handed a nuclear bomb and a tank and F150s the federal government should be required to allow its citizens to own these weapon otherwise in keeping with the spirit of the 2nd amendment the United States citizens need to be allowed to own these weapon or the feds need to destroy the ones they have.

[qwert1234]

Of all the countries in the world, you Americans are probably the top 1 that can topple your government at will - if you act as a collective. lol.

[Stoner710]

Maybe, We do know how to use guerrilla tactics and pick them off one by one, but the government would use fighter jets and if the government really is tyrannical to this existent nuclear Bombs. So it doesn’t look good. I think that’s the only reason why we haven’t had a second civil war the people don’t want to face nuclear weapons

[Sevenpointfive]

i want the right to own guns, form a militia and take down the government if i feel threatened that my rights are being taken away

[joeldalton]

You say it won't take down the federal government, but a guy in a buffalo hat almost destroyed our democracy according to the left.

Otherwise, you're correct... time to load up, Pedo Pete is coming for your AR-15

[andreasderjuengere]

If a ''right'' can be taken away - then it isn't a ''right'' ... but a mere favour :)

[Stoner710]

By that logic there are no right. Think. (List is 99% hypothetical I will list them that are not) also A, B, C

A, Fucj you, ever religious idea is banned. You die
B. don’t have a right to choose the religion it’s my religion or you die
C. Don’t care what religion do you follow understand that the culture is built upon a certain religion beyond that do what you need to do. Beyond human sacrifice,

C would be for the freedom or religious A, B it totalitarian.

Way more extreme, G. O. T type

A You let me fuck you. No choice but to fuck.
B you say no or spit in the face of the pervert
C. Do want you want it’s your right

Every right can be given or taken. So do rights exist?

[andreasderjuengere]

No they don't exist. They are just social agreements of what a group of certain people who have 'the power' to dictate others what to do or not to do.
Same goes to the ''human rights'' which are actually an early cold war political invention.
The only natural ''right'' I could think of is the ''right to try''.
...
If YOU believe to have other rights, then you are likely a victim of ''the System's'' brainwash.

[Stoner710]

Then by that logic no government has the reason to exist or the need to exist. If rights are a made up fantasy. Then anyone who tell you what to do if a tyrant be it kings or Democratically elected officials. If the only thing you have a right to is to TRY then government can hurt and oppress even that right.

Now I’m not religious my self but in studying philosophy, I have come to the conclusion that rights can only come from some sorta of God. Men are not gods so rights can’t come from men. Government is not a god because it’s ruled by men. The only reason why a government should exist is to protect those right given to use by this God, If god does not exist then neither should government because it’s ruling on a false premise and a lie and every human in a position of power in any government should be executed along with there thought leaders. This would mean of course you would seen both the heads of trump and Biden on a pike in front of the White House as a reminder that if anyone tries to take power again we will kill them.

[SmokinAces2000]

Oh yeah because with every citizen owning a tank and a nuclear bomb nothing could go wrong

[Stoner710]

your probably right but that convinces me even more that the government shouldn't have these weapons either.

[SmokinAces2000]

That is an elementary way of thinking, we learn pretty much early on that we don’t always get why everyone else has but especially if it’s weapons. Every country should have heavy artillery to protect from other countries but that doesn’t mean every citizen should have those same weapons

[In_Trance]

That is inaccurate

[Stoner710]

how so?