Should Republicans hold up AIDE to Ukraine until Z comes clean on money laundering to Democrats through FTX cryptos?

[888theGreat]

Republicans will soon have the power to stop aide to Ukraine unless they come clean.

Yes Republicans should stop Aide to Ukraine

No, they should keep funding Ukraine and get into WW3

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This is the first time in 20 years that Republicans have a person by the short hairs to do what they want. If Z refuses to come clean , he gets no aide and with no aide , Russia will kick his ass and Russian flags with be wire to wire in Ukraine. Now Biden and Democrats I guess could sneak aide to him but that would be illegal and ask Oliver North how that goes.

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+1 y

Republicans have the advantage , but will they use it? There are a lot of war monger Republicans.

[Guy13]

We are going to be getting little bit of Biden Laptop Bombs dropped for the next decade...

[goaded]

Just like Benghazi.

[joeldalton]

1000% Not a fucking dime to that money laundering scheme.

[joeldalton]

The good news is Maxine Waters is head of the committee investigating FTX

[Agagagagaga]

Jesus fucking Christ the Dems are so goddamn unethical.

[Revvl]

@Agagagagaga

The sad thing is, it wasn't always that way.

[Soteris]

Ah yes. Punish the innocent Ukrainian people for your political gain. Now you are thinking like a Republican.

[Revvl]

How is it political gain for not wanting to give money to a scam?

[Soteris]

@Revvl Because if those people do not get this aid they will die. I dont care if you think its a scam or not, its a question of life and death of innocent civilians and here you are trying to use that as a political tool. That is highly immoral.

[Revvl]

You're the one that called it political gain. So explain yourself. What is the political gain?

[joeldalton]

the "innocent Ukrainian people" aren't getting this money. It was being laundered from tax dollars to ukraine to FTX to democrat donations.

And how much has Sweden given to Ukraine, again?

[Revvl]

@joeldalton
Biden, Zelenskyy and Putin are all laughing at us. Oh, and so is Jinping.

[joeldalton]

@Revvl Well Zelensky is also getting Sean Penn's oscar. For best performance of a leader during wartime.

[Revvl]

@joeldalton
I'm on the fence in deciding which was the more genius scam...

*The Covid vaccines that don't work
*The Russia/Ukraine "war"

There's an amazing line from the movie "Swordfish".

"What the eyes see, and the ears hear, the mind believes."

During the Iraq war, a college professor put half of his class in one room, and the other half in another room. In one room they watched CNN and in the other room they watched FOX.
Then he pulled the two groups together and asked them who was winning the war. lol
I'll let you figure out the rest...

[Soteris]

@Revvl Read the original question. "Should Republicans hold up AIDE to Ukraine until Z comes clean on money laundering to Democrats". Withholding aid to people who desperately need it until you get your political wish granted is attempting to use it for political gain. Not sure why I even need to explain this.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton Funny, guess all the images of people getting aid is photoshopped then.

As for how much Sweden has given? About 500 million dollars by itself and contributed to the common pool given by the EU as a whole. I heard we were preparing another 100 million dollars in weapons to send in a few days too.

[Agagagagaga]

Ah yes, punish the American people for a senseless war in Ukraine.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris - so as usual, the US is subsidizing you ingrates.

[Revvl]

@Soteris
Why do you not want to know where the money is going?

[joeldalton]

@Revvl He doesn't care. the "current thing" is support Ukraine, so that's what he does.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton What are you even talking about?

[Soteris]

@Agagagagaga I would respect you more if it was not just part of some political game for you. Either support the people of Ukraine, or dont. But turning them into a political football is just loathsome.

[Soteris]

@Revvl I more or less already know where the money is going thank you very much.

[Revvl]

@joeldalton
Watch the movie "Wag The Dog." It's now not just a movie, it's real life.

1. Trump tells Russia it can't finish the Nord Stream pipeline.
2. Biden magically gets more votes than anyone in history, and tells Russia it can finish the pipeline.
3. Biden announces that if Russia invades Ukraine, he will destroy the pipe lines.
4. The pipe lines get destroyed.
5. The strategic bridge to Crimea gets destroyed
6. And now there was a missile into Poland

It's all fake, but three world leaders will get rich from it.

[Revvl]

" I more or less already know where the money is going thank you very much."

I'm all for the war, just as long as all the money comes from Sweden. Don't you agree?

[Agagagagaga]

“ As for how much Sweden has given? About 500 million dollars by itself and contributed to the common pool given by the EU as a whole. I heard we were preparing another 100 million dollars in weapons to send in a few days too.”

🤣

Sweden is the guy who brings a bag of chips to a barbecue. Thanks. 🤦‍♂️ 🙄

[joeldalton]

I'm talking about your country isn't doing jack shit but you whine and moan at the hit of US taxpayers keeping some of their own money. I guess that's the socialist in you

[Soteris]

@Revvl I got no problem with that. Its not like Ukraine actually needs more support to win, its just a case of reducing further suffering rather than changing the outcome. If USA wants to stop their support and it can be shown to be from playing politics then that sin will be on you, not us.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris, hey dipshit, the US has already given Ukraine more than Russia spends on its military in a year. The only sin is the rape of the American taxpayer for this bullshit.

[Soteris]

@Agagagagaga Considering Sweden is the 15th largest supporter before this new 100 million dollar aid package and not counting the EU support we are also part of, I am fine with that. After all, we are only a country of 10 million.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton My country is doing quite a lot but we are a small country. That said, where do you think Ukraine gets all their AT4's and NLAWS from?

[Revvl]

Let Sweden pay for it all.

[Soteris]

@Revvl Shows more about you than it does about us. Bragging about how terrible you are as a person is not a winning strategy in an argument.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton Dont come here and pretend that USA giving weapons and money to Ukraine is actually because you suddenly grew a heart and want to help a friend. The US support to Ukraine was always about destroying your rival, Russia. I will not hear any bitching and moaning about "Poor me" afterwards when this was your scheme to further secure your position in the world.

Grow up.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris you can always dig deeper and do more. I'm sure you can donate out of your own pocket, even.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris you are the moron who brought the word "sin" into the conversation. you stupid fuck.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton Who are you to say I have not already given money personally? Also I am not the one here advocating giving or withholding money to innocent victims based on if my political rivals give me what I want. What morality is there in holding a knife to an innocent and threatening their life unless your will is meet?

[joeldalton]

@Soteris then provide the receipts.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton To you? What makes you think I have to prove myself to the likes of you? Fuck off.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris you're the one claiming you're such a moral philanthropist who cares about the Ukrainian people

[Soteris]

@joeldalton So? I have no reason to prove myself to you and its not relevant to the discussion either which begs the question, why are you so desperate to change the topic? I smell weakness from you.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris not changing the discussion at all. Just pointing out what a massive fucking hypocrite you are. You're feigning indignation that US taxpayers would have a problem sending BILLIONS in their tax dollars (again, more than Russia's military spending in a year) to a corrupt country to have that money laundered back to the democrat party through Ukraine. Meanwhile you personally don't do shit and your country barely contributes to Ukraine

You're a typical Euro shitlib. You depend on the US to save and support your ass and your cause of the day then pretend to be superior. Go fuck yourself

[Soteris]

@joeldalton I pay taxes too. My taxes are also going to support Ukraine. If anything, even if I never sent a penny myself to Ukraine I am still entirely consistent with my message of the state supporting Ukraine. My country is just more moral than yours and does not entertain the idea of using the suffering in Ukraine to achieve our personal political goal. That is why you are sinful and I am virtuous. Why I am consistent in my messaging and you have to check your magic truth social to see what is more politically beneficial for you today. Why I am always right and you are a lying piece of shit.

[joeldalton]

Bahahahaha. You’re a fucking mooch. That’s not moral.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton Having and upholding values is moral. Looking at a situation and thinking "How does this benefit me?" and then whining about how helping others is financially inconveniencing yourself is outright disgusting. Get out of here.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris claiming you’re moral for wanting other people to sacrifice for something you personally believe in is the epitome of socialist horseshit. You’re a fucking loser.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton I at no point said you had to. I have no problems with the countless countries around the world that is not giving anything to Ukraine. What I do have a problem with however is you and this whole nonsense of, and ill quote, "Should Republicans hold up AIDE to Ukraine until Z comes clean on money laundering" because unlike simply not giving anything this is actively malicious.

I am ever disgusted by the depths people like you sink to on a daily basis.

[joeldalton]

@Soteris yes, you fucking mouth-breathing idiot, I have a problem with my tax dollars being laundered back to the Democrat party. Get that through your stupid head.

[Soteris]

@joeldalton And here we have the admission itself. Bravo. Now fuck off, there is nothing else to discuss between us.

[Sevenpointfive]

the occupation of a soldier in the usa is a joke and yet they earn more than a college graduate. stop it or go to war

[goaded]

Oh, so that's this week's fake scandal, is it?

[Agagagagaga]

Sorta like the Russian collusion hoax that we wasted four years on?

Fuck you.

[Revvl]

@Agagagagaga
He's a moronic German who has no dog in this fight.

[Agagagagaga]

@Revvl But he loves to tell other countries how they should be run.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga I just point out the truth when people are lying. Like the fact that Russia was proven to have interfered in the 2016 election, and that the investigation was obstructed in many ways by Trump and his cronies.

[Agagagagaga]

And I just point out that you’re a faggy Kraut who takes it up the ass.

I’m just speaking truth to power. That’s what you Lefties say, right?

[Revvl]

@Agagagagaga
Yes, and this site would be much better if it wasn't international. I would pay a subscription fee if we could just have an American version of this forum.

[Agagagagaga]

@Revvl Agreed. Europeans are the biggest bastards on this site. The Turks and Arabs are normal people, but the Swedes, Germans, and Brits?

💩🤮💩🤮💩🤮💩💩🤮💩🤮

They just love LOVE to tell you how awful your country is and how terrible it’s people are. But oddly, if I respond MY comments get removed while they get free reign to insult Americans.

Could it be the mods are degenerate Lefties who also hate America? Probably. Most mods are.

[Revvl]

@Agagagagaga
Go on Similarworlds
The mods are actual mods, and not power hungry, childish, attention whores.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga I don't suppose you even notice that I'm not insulting America, I'm insulting the rampant right wing there and the people who believe the lies you peddle.

By the way, it's nice that you think I'm powerful. Or are you just too thick to understand what "truth to power" actually means?

[Agagagagaga]

You routinely insult America and Americans. Try again.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga Show me an example.

[Revvl]

@Agagagagaga
When was the last time the moron criticized his own country?

[goaded]

@Revvl Which one?

[exitseven]

Hopefully now that there are some adults in the room we may avoid a nuclear war.

[Revvl]

Absolutely!